Viral videos of Tesla drivers using VR headsets prompt US government alarm
US transportation secretary Pete Buttigieg on Monday said human drivers must pay attention at all times after videos emerged of people wearing what appeared to be Apple’s recently released Vision Pro headset while driving Teslas.
Buttigieg responded on Twitter/X to a video that had more than 24m views of a Tesla driver who appeared to be gesturing with his hands to manipulate a virtual reality field.
Despite their names, Tesla’s assisted driving features – Autopilot, Enhanced Autopilot and Full Self-Driving – do not mean the vehicles are fully autonomous, Buttigieg said Monday on social media.
“Reminder – ALL advanced driver assistance systems available today require the human driver to be in control and fully engaged in the driving task at all times,” Buttigieg said.
Obviously that guy is dumb enough to do this, he bought a cyber truck...
This guy definitely has a crypto wallet and a monkey jpeg
I doubt he has a crypto wallet of his own. Probably an account on coinbase though.
You are wrong on that. He has a url to a monkey jpeg
If you want a “self driving vehicle,” buy a horse.
or just take a train.
That's great if there's a train that goes where you need to go. For most people in the US that happens approximately never.
If only something could be done about it but it seems for some reason the laws of physics don't allow trains in north America
It's a tragedy, really.
That's actually true in a way. Shit here is really far apart.
That's why the first intercontinental travel was trains. Over distance trains a substantially more efficient than car because of rolling resistance and differentials.
That's why I say the laws of physics don't apply because we do the objectively worse thing because the government hates building infrastructure.
The US for instance is about the same size as China yet China has lots of rail because the government will focus on infrastructure.
Yes, trains are great for long distances. Where they suck is trying to get people from point to point in a sprawling city designed around the assumption that everyone has a car. Cities are so spread out that getting within walking distance of most destinations by train would require an unreasonably large rail system.
Let's be honest, cars suck at that too and that's why we're perpetually dealing with traffic and widening roads.
But let's take Phoenix AZ, the premium suburb sprawl. The light rail is pretty damn good and with a bike it's pretty painless evern if you need to get a mile or two from the light rail.
The main issue with using bikes like this is all the big ass cars and drivers who will not share the road. If we had dedicated bike infrastructure leading to rail it would work just fine even with suburban sprawl.
I know this because I did this on the light rail in Phoenix.
For what it's worth, I always vote for more public transit. I'm just never that impressed with the results.
You don't have to love it or anything and I'm not saying public transportation is mandatory. But right now, cars are mandatory in a lot of ways and I think that's a shame.
Agreed.
That's exactly the Environment Trains were designed for?
Emphasis on "in the U.S." :(
Also the only place that stupid fucking Tesla truck is legal.
Technicality! Its available in canada so your statement is factually false.
Look at Mr Fancy pants with horse money over here.
Last time I've checked Tesla's self driving option comes with a pricy subscription paid monthly.
How about a pig with a saddle?
A Mountie?
Ayyy 🤌🏼
I always wondered were there less accidents back then? Horses probably actively try not to run into things right? But they can also get scared and go crazy so who knows
Riding horses or in horse drawn carriages was banned in the city of Rome multiple times in antiquity, because of accidents involving two horses.
Cars will come to a stop, eventually, on their own. Horses get spooked and run, causing a much bigger problem.
Mary Todd Lincoln once jumped from a carriage after her driver was thrown from the seat and the horse began to speed away. The resulting injury left her with migraines for the rest of her life.
There are stories from horses bringing home their drunk, sleeping 'drivers' because they knew their way home.
I’d guess there were less alcohol related accidents..?
Horses also leave horseshit wherever they go.
Not a plus.
You know, so do Tesla and Musk fanboys. What a curious coincidence.
Yeah but streetcleaners would get it every hour or so and transport it off to farms. You know, the giant gardens that are so depleted of nutrients they spray chemicals constantly to replenish.
I saw a horse go crazy recently and yeah... the horse didn't hit shit...but the ones on the carriage....10/10 wouldn't recommend.
You don't get points or game tokens on a horse though.
As someone who gets both car sick and VR sick, this seems like my worst nightmare.
I wouldn't last more than 15 seconds before projectile vomiting.
This seems like something you could take advantage of.
Those days when clearly something wants to come out of you and you feel like shit but it takes forever to want to go up.... Some people does the fingers thing.... but I have never ever got it to work tbh.
Nah I just had a long visit with the MIL and there were some times I wished I could have projectile vomited at her to get her to shut up. Really anything to get her to shut up. The topic of the day was how much she hates her sister.
Hahaha ok that too 😅
Cybertrucks, VR headsets, and projectile vomiting…
Ahh the future!
I used to get both, but when I eat ginger mints it helps
Have you tried eating a ginger? May also help.
That sounds fishy....
I guess they are related no? Like it makes sense to have both.
The issue is seeing movement but you are not physically moving...although the car you are technically moving but... I guess confused the brain as the movement is not caused by you.
In my case I don't get sick on car ever... And in VR the same, the only exception is on VR I might lose a little bit the orientation and lose my equilibrium for sec but very very rarely and not enough to fall thankfully.
It's a mismatch between what the eyes see and the ears feel. In nature, this generally only happens when you've been poisoned (think drunk). The obvious solution to being poisoned is to empty the stomach, to limit how much more gets absorbed.
The effect is processed at a fairly high level, mentally. This means you can influence it. E.g. if you focus on the difference, in an accepting manner, and your subconscious will stop reacting to it as badly.
Oh interesting, thanks for sharing that.
From what I've heard (back when I used Reddit) they aren't linked, there's apparently a bunch of people who have one but not the other.
Someone said that it's cause they're almost opposite effects- car sickness is when you feel movement but don't see it, whereas vr sickness is when you see movement but don't feel it- but I'd take this with a grain of salt since it's just some random person on Reddit guessing at the cause.
Personally my experience is mostly the same as yours, I don't get either.
A lot of the people that drive these things are acting like children in adult bodies. I have seen some wildly dumb shit happen. It's like the car company created by the Darwin Awards...
I literally once saw someone eating on a little folding table/desk of some sort in their Tesla (driver seat, of course) with the dash screen playing some sort of media.
Another time, the person was playing a handheld gaming console of some sort, in the driver seat.
An the automatic lane switching doesn't adjust for people speeding up in the passing lane well. I've seen a couple near accidents there.
I mean the table thing and the gaming sounds cool.... The issue is them doing it while """driving""".
acting? I'm gonna need to see some evidence of that.
Stupidity. Stupidity never changes.
"You can't fix stupid" - Ron White
People have always been idiots behind the wheel. I started driving before personal electronics and touchscreens were a thing. You still saw people bracing books or newspapers against the steering wheel with their thumbs so they could read as they drove down the highway. Now it’s watching movies, texting or other social media, video conversations, reading…
Just seems that there are way more people doing it. The social contract gets more broken every day.
It was amazing what I saw people doing when commuting in L.A. traffic. Yes, it was very slow. You still could hit the person in front of you!
Or fiddling with the radio / tape player / CD player, or putting on makeup / shaving. People have always done this.
This is one of the top reasons wfh is better. You don't need to hurry to get ready.
This is not entirely true anymore. If you're in a 2024 Mercedes EQS Sedan driving in Nevada (Edit: or California) at less than 40 mph, you are allowed to take your hands off the wheel and your eyes off the road.
Lol that's oddly specific.
Test road?
No, Mercedes is the first one to market with a level 3 (fully self driving) system, which is available with their top of the line sedan.
They applied for certification and got it from the state of Nevada. (Edit: And California)
The system itself is limited to 40mph.
If I recall correctly the big difference being that Mercedes is the first manufacturer to take legal liability for an accident while their software is driving (under the specific circumstances), which is pretty big IMO.
Then it's not a "driver assistance" system, that's full autonomy.
Full autonomy would include all roads and speed limits.
No it wouldn't. It just requires that the car is fully autonomous. Like it says in the words.
https://www.synopsys.com/automotive/autonomous-driving-levels.html
https://www.wordnik.com/words/autonomous
Christ alive, your own definition contradicts you. Above a certain speed, it can't control itself. Not independent. Needs a human to drive it. Ergo, not fully autonomous even by your own definition.
Sorry I must have missed the part of the definition that said "above 40 mph"
Let's leave the systems definitions to the actual engineers, thanks.
I suggest you go educate yourself about the levels of vehicle autonomy before you erroneously label systems you don't understand.
LOL no let's not. If the system is assisting you in driving, it's a driver assistance system. If the car is driving itself, it is fully autonomous. It's literally spelled out in the name. You don't need an engineering degree to see that, just an elementary level reading comprehension.
I'd suggest you read a fucking dictionary before gatekeeping shit you don't understand and spinning up a new account explicitly to point out why you think someone on the internet is wrong.
Normal roads, just only in traffic jams.
Same in parts of Germany.
It's actually more specific than that. It also only works if there's a car directly in front of you.
Wow, is Mercedes advertising that at all?
Engadget tried it in LA in September ‘23. (Piped)
Interestingly, still can’t use your phone due to CA law - but can watch videos, browse the web, as long as you stay <=40 MPH (65 km/h).
And it’s Mercedes’ fault if it crashes!
Same for the Waymo cars. You can actually sit in the back seat and let it take you to your destination.
This is one of the things about assisted driving tech that's always confused me. It seems unlikely that we will have fully self-driving cars soon, but the illusion of being able to be absent while driving seems really dangerous. It doesn't seem like an improvement to me to remove the human element from most of the driving tasks while also requiring that human to spring into action seemingly at random.
Like don't get me wrong, people do dumb shit on the road with or without assistance, but having a system that requires human involvement at a zero-to-hero level seems like a bad system.
Then again, based on this actual content, maybe people just shouldn't be allowed to own vehicles full stop.
Maybe not from Tesla, but Mercedes already sells 2 cars which have limited Level 3 self driving functionality. Up to 50 mph you are legally allowed to divert your attention from the road and do something else, you just need to be ready to take back control within 10 seconds of the car telling you to do so. Mercedes is so confident in that system that they are taking legal liability for any crashes caused while the car is in self driving mode. And Mercedes is already planning to get the car certified for speeds up to 75mph soon, so it will be usable at regular highway speeds
I find it baffling that people are so eager to put their faith in this shit 😂
I'd sooner place it there than with humans.
Well, so far these cars have driven a lot of miles without crashes. They don't need to be perfect, they just need to be better than a human driver, which is not a very high bar to set
Have you been in the road?? Human drivers are fucking scary.
You are of course correct but the problem is that Tesla are irresponsible, shocking I know.
All the other car companies are holding back their self-driving tech until it actually 100% works, but Tesla are like, nah we're going to use our customers as bata testers. So what if they die they've already bought the car.
It's like they're competing for being the most punchable.
When HMD becomes permanently part of their face upon airbag deployment they might finally realize it was a bad idea.
Realization might only last for about a millisecond or two.
At some point, doctors are gonna tell a guy, "your face is already irreparably damaged by these AR devices in your sniff.. just as an experiment, why not improve the enhancements surgically?" And that's how cyberpunk 2077 gets on the rails.
Building a new 6 Million Dollar Man.
Except that’s what you now have in medical debt.
Eeesh I didn't mean to inspire anyone haha
I am more concerned about the innocent people who will pay for the assholes "bad idea" will their lives.
After seeing some people having their face branded with their car logo from the wheel the the airbag fired... actually this might be better protection....
The complete disregard for road safety and personal well-being (not to mention the well-being of others) never ceases to amaze me.
I see several videos every day on social media of people taking videos while driving.
Saw another guy doing a (very unimportant) delivery with a trailer across state in a clapped-out old van on the 1 day of the year there was ice on the road, and predictably crashed badly.
Single video..
The media and public do love an exaggeration
And it looks fake, honestly. If you see videos of YouTube reviewers using the device, they do way less poking and tapping and like, weird throwing of the hands that the person in the OP video is doing.
Same with some of the other videos of people walking across streets and through traffic.
If this prompts the US government, why is the rising pedestrian deaths not promoting action?
Well, the actual causes of pedestrian deaths (big dumb vehicles, infrastructure that more or less necessitates personal vehicle ownership) are the same things that the auto industry lobbies hard for.
See General Motors and jaywalking
Staged Apple Vision Pro videos be like
I really don't think these are staged. All its doing is making Vision Pro users look like assholes
Edit: misread the OP comment. Thought they were saying Apple was staging these videos. I do believe that this video is probably staged by someone
The thing doesn’t work when you’re moving and the cameras detect that your surroundings are moving. It is 100% staged.
Quickly, someone with a Apple Vision Pro test this out in his car!
Source? I heard that it's usable on an airplane
As long as your environment appears to be fixed to the cameras, it is fine, but in a car your surroundings are moving by. On a plane, you usually can’t see much more than the seats around you.
Maybe that’s the point.
The movements in the video definitely look exaggerated especially the wavy hands at the end
I don't deny that it's probably staged. Imo it's more likely just rage bait
on today's episode of "humans testing the limits of natural selection"
It's Fred. Don't worry about him at all, he's really good on speed runs up and down the 5fwy. He always gets home with extra tokens and a good 5000 points.
I wish my Toyota gave me points for driving it!
Between this and the crApple VR thingy on the NYC subway, this makes me wonder for the fate of humanity.
We embrance technology in stupid ways. It's a thing we always do, It's pretty hilarious aside from the death part.
When cars were invented, there were no traffic laws, people drove drunk and got in tumbling car wrecks, ran over people constantly. They were much faster than foot, carriage, etc.
When cell phones became affordable, people talked-and-drove so much and wrecks went up.
When texting became popular, people texted and drove and wrecks went up even more.
When smartphones became approachable to the masses, people drive around scrolling web sites rather than driving.
When social video media became popular and usable on mobile broadband, people drive around watching videos rather than driving.
Now VR headset, and on and on.
I see a couple takeaways here:
Aren't these new Apple things AR devices you can see through, though? You could have a HUD that assists with driving.
They're not true AR devices, they're VR headsets masquerading as AR, you're still just watching a video of the world around you. As good as the Vision Pro's passthrough video, it's still passthrough video and doesn't have the same resolution as our eyes would have, plus it probably blocks out at least some of your peripheral vision. I do think having a HUD while driving would be nice, but it would need to be able to restrict any sort of extraneous content out (like youtube videos or whatever) and ONLY show information needed for driving (maybe have music/audio controls at most).
the only "HUD" I want while driving is one that dynamically dims LED headlights while leaving the rest of my view unaltered.
Speedo and tach projected in the bottom edge of the windscreen is really nice tho.
I used an app a couple of times at night that reflected my speed where I know speed traps existed. Was kinda cool if low tech
Imagine having a full field of view around your vehicle without looking away from the road in front of you. Full 360° vision from a camera setup without having to move your head. Or, at the very least, making your blind spots transparent so they no longer exist.
And sunrises/sunsets right in front of you
Oh, you "could." But I'll bet you these individuals aren't. These morons are looking at videos or scrolling the web or some other stupid attention diverting shit.
I'm not sure there even exists any kind of hypothetical "AR driving assistance" app for the Apple Vision. And there probably never will, for the obvious massive liability reasons.
There's only like four apps for the headset at the moment anyway.
Yeah and what would you do if the device malfunctions or runs put of battery? You'd literally be blind.
You take it off... It's not bolted to your head. What do people who wear glasses do if they fog up while driving?
Yeah, sure. You just "take it off" while driving a +2000kg metal block that's circulating at 40 to 160km/h. It's totally fine to lose control over your friggin eyes while operating a machine like that.
I'm sorry but you're either a troll or just very dumb.
The issue is the government's biggest concern isn't safety, it's being able to legislate those being unsafe. Which can actually be conflicting, because even if a VR headset showing directions on the road itself is less distracting than looking at a separate phone/GPS- a cop doesn't know if you're doing that, or if you have YouTube in the corner of your eye.
Is the US government also alarmed by all the text and driver or the rising pedestrian deaths?
Naw, it's not topical
I fucking love people
I mean, I'd use partial self driving on I5 to eat my taco bell, but I'm still paying attention to what's in front of me!
Yeah, you're paying attention to the fast food you're too impatient to wait to eat safely. You're not properly paying attention to the road or all of the other people whose lives are now in danger because you're shoving a chalupa down your pie hole instead of safely operating the two ton missile you're supposed to be guiding down the highway. Your lane assist isn't magic, and when you inevitably fuck this up, I hope it's a single-vehicle accident and you spare other drivers the misfortune.
Jeez, It was a rental I had for a month about 2 years ago.
And for your information, it was a single chicken taco. There were no cars around. I'm not talking LA I5, this is in the middle of nowhere and I had to make an emergency drive up Eureka from Sacramento.
Buttigieg.
Heh.
There's no way that isn't satire or similar commentary. Problem is I suspect way too many people are too dumb to get it. People who don't realize it's a faked scenario and are dumb enough to try it.
Edit: Jesus Christ it's fake. Have you downvoters even seen the video? Guy gets or of the car and is beep booping around? That motherfucker would be blind and couldn't walk around without falling. If he was in pass thru he'd be vommiting because there's no faster way to make yourself sick. The video isn't even possible without being staged.
The way people go on about critical thinking, I really expected you all to be a lot more savvy about things like this.
The issue I have with your comment is this. You're asserting that the experience you had with nausea and VR is the experience everyone has or will have with nausea and VR.
Some people can't read a book in the car without getting motion sickness. Some people can read hundreds. Some can read a few pages.
Some people can read a book but not play a video game. Some people have the opposite problem.
There's no way this was "fake" maybe staged, but this person was clearly in the driver's seat driving down a public 4-lane highway. Staged video or not, that's dangerous.
If you can find one person who has used pass-through while walking around for like 15 minutes and hasn't gotten sick, you've found one more person than me. I've never heard anyone mention pass-thru that didn't immediately follow up that it made them extremely sick.
I'm not a person prone to motion sickness. I'm on boats all the time. I drive hundreds of miles at a stretch without a problem. I started feeling queasy in pass-thru within about 5 minutes. But I stuck with it and within 20 minutes I was on the verge of vomiting. This is not a subtle thing or something that only affects those with a weak constitution.
So I don't know. Maybe there are folks out there who are completely unaffected by it.
Then there is the claim someone made that a user experience video showed that the headset just shut down at high speeds and couldn't even be used on a train. I can't verify that quickly with Google.
I'm not sure where your line is between "fake" and "staged" but if they are only putting the headset on for the purpose of the video and they don't actually drive around that way, I'm calling that fake. Because they aren't actually using the headset except to draw attention to the fact that they are wearing the headset. People aren't actually doing this. They created a fake controversy.
Hi, it’s me, I’ve done it. With my old quest 2 I walked all around my house for a good half hour through pass through no problem.
Your anecdote is not evidence.
With regards to the video being fake or staged, I’m not entering that ring today.
Yup me too. Meta has seen me take a piss more than my wife.
I walk around my apartment in pass-thru all the fucking time during weekend long vr sessions with friends. I never get vr sick at all.
Add me to the list. Have never gotten sick from VR. Ever. Passthrough on the Vision Pro doesn’t make me sick. Cooked a meal with the it on. Ran upstairs and down with it on. Refuse to drive with it on.
I think the other comments have touched on the motion sickness point enough...
As for this, I only use fake if what appears to have happened didn't actually happen, e.g. it looks like somebody got stabbed but they definitely didn't (be it CGI, camera angles, fake knives, etc).
Where as staged is more "that's what actually happened" but it happened intentionally to make a video. "Here's your sign" and influencer videos can definitely qualify lol
Okay. I'm not saying the guy wasn't actually wearing the googles. I'm saying the guy doesn't actually wear the goggles except when he's wearing them to poke fun at how ridiculous it would be to wear them. They are being worn ironically, not because the dude actually goes around wearing VR googles in his car.
For one, if a cop ever saw him, he'd be pulled over and cited, and he'd wind up in a fucking car chase and never even know it. Does autopilot automatically pull over for emergency vehicles? I can't believe anyone is treating this with an ounce of seriousness except for the fact that morons that can't tell the whole thing is a joke will actually go and do it.
Why contribute to satire when it's just as likely someone is really that dumb and has that level of disposable income?
It's not just as likely at all. The fuck is wrong with people?
People on this site will shoehorn in a chance to hate on Tesla whenever they can. I got called a fanboy once for speculating why the cybertruck had such bad range. All I said was basically "I wonder if it's a software bug," and it was followed by 8 hours of being insulted by various people.
I'm not even sure how "I hate Tesla" translates into "this is definitely a thing people do and fuck you for suggesting this is done purely for attention and outrage!" But whatever. People can be wrong on the internet. Hell, maybe I'm even wrong. Wouldn't be the first time. At the end of the day, the thread doesn't matter at all. It will be forgotten about by everyone within the week.
I'm just vaguely curious whether these are the same folks who got suckered by tide pod challenges and other similar TikTok ridiculousness, or whether those people learned and this is a new batch of people jumping onto manufactured outrage. Welp... not going to get the answer today.
I don’t understand what you mean by “faked scenario”. This person is definitely driving and they definitely have the headset on. What do you mean is “faked” about this? Can you clarify?
I've clarified in other responses. "Faked" in that it was staged. The dude doesn't actually drive around wearing a VR headset except, you know, just long enough to film it to present the ridiculous idea that someone might do this. I don't have the time or energy to go in depth on every single response that says [DOUBT] but you can get a sense of my thought process and I guess either agree or not.
So you’re just implying that the person filming wasn’t a random passenger on the road that saw this? The whole issue is that the person recording was “in” on it? That’s what you’re getting worked up over?
Because the person is driving and they are wearing the headset while doing so. Even if it was only for the duration of the video and then stopped immediately after recording ended, it is still a monumentally stupid thing to do.
If you think it was only done to elicit a reaction then it's not a trend, right? As in we don't need an act of Congress over one dipshit looking for attention.
Idk. Attention whore gets attention. News at eleven I guess.
Considering that there have now been multiple videos of people driving while wearing the Vision Pro, the reason people are doing it is irrelevant. They're still idiots for doing it.
Okay. I've only seen the one every time someone talks about it. Fair enough.
Check out Casey neistats video of the vision pro. He just walks around and rides his boosted board in nyc without getting sick. By his own words, the pass through seems to be so amazing and fast that he forgot it isn't reality.
Someone linked his video. It's pretty impressive, especially if unedited. Around 1:10 in the video I can see the low FPS and high latency which most folks say makes them sick when using VR, so that guy must have a hell of a stomach because I've got a pretty strong one and pass-through gave me intense nausea and headache in very short order and that has been the case for every single experience with pass-through I've read about before.
Dude, are you for real?
What you have been seeing is a screen recording that was cut into a video, which was compressed by YouTube. That's nowhere close to the high resolution 90hz display that's actually in front of his eyes.
Just accept that you overreacted and don't be such a sucker for being right.
It's not the resolution, it's the latency. I also never overreacted except possibly in disbelief over how many people accept this as real - as in something this person actually does and not simply staged for a reaction. Well, guess he got it. But yeah I'm about done with all this. Not like anyone is going to remember me if and when we all find out it was staged.
Yea and guess what, you can't see latency in a YouTube video either.
It's the first device that keeps the latency sub 12ms. Frankly, I never tried it, but it's something no other VR device achieved. I doubt it's fake until proven otherwise, 12ms is almost instant.
Your only argument is "I get sick from VR pass-through". Well, this is a new device that may have solved it, yet you continue to be set on your opinion based on past experiences with other, worse devices.
I want to say I'm surprised by how many downvotes you have. But then I remember what the average internet user is like, they love a common enemy and will ralley at any opportunity to follow the masses.
The new headsets show you the world around you and add an interface layer, like a HUD except the whole thing is on screen. You can walk around and still see in front of you, while your email interface floats off to the left. You interact with the interface through eye and hand motions.
I haven't used it, but that's what they claim it can do. It would not be impossible to do the things people are doing in the video.
Existing headsets also do this (not with integrated email but that's not the point). I know because trying it walking around my house made me the sickest I've ever been using VR. It shocks me the number of people who insist this is real and either haven't seen the video or haven't used VR.
This was staged. Will some idiots do it for real? Probably, if they can (sometime else said apple headsets shut down while in motion, so that would be another reason this was staged).
But the number of people downvoting me for saying the video everyone is talking about is faked honestly has me flummoxed. It's fucking obviously fake, just like the tide pod challenge.
You know with VR you get less motion sick eventually, they call it your "VR Legs" kind of like being on a boat or something like that.
That doesn't mean this wasn't staged.
I didn't say it doesn't, but your anecdotal experience with VR isn't specifically proof either.
You keep insisting that it was staged, and nobody is disputing that it may have been staged. But your argument is that nobody could possibly do this, when "this" is precisely the function the headset was designed for.
I'm with you, VR and AR always makes me motion sick, too. But that's not what happens for everyone. The reason you're being downvoted is that you're certain it was staged, but your reasoning doesn't make sense.
You can walk and drive with one on (you should absolutely not drive with one on). What doesn't work when you're moving is the apps. You have to stop walking to interact with an app. There's the one video of the guy in the crosswalk who stops in the road to click something. Plenty of videos show what you see while walking around wearing the headset.
There's also Travel Mode for when you're on a bus or airplane, or in a car (again, DON'T DRIVE WHILE WEARING A HEADSET) that ignores your motion and keeps the interface near you, but I don't know how well it works.
So to sum up, yes it is possible that these videos are legitimate users being stupid. It's also possible that they are staged ragebait. Either way, don't wear one when you should be paying attention to your surroundings.
I appreciate your perspective. Have you seen the video? Because it was fucking ridiculous. Perhaps the reasoning I'm able to articulate doesn't hold water but I'm like just waving my arms at the video and saying, "just fucking look at it - it's staged." The way that guy gets out of the car like he's dual wielding pistols in the parking lot? Come on. The video is self-aware that it is absolutely ridiculous.
Wait, no, which video are you talking about? I'm talking about (and I assume everyone else is talking about) the guy in the link above who is behind the wheel of a tesla truck cruising along and using his headset. What video are you talking about?
Yeah the one I saw was like 2 seconds of the guy cruising along and then it cuts to him getting out of the truck in a parking lot waving his arms about like he's living out a John Woo movie.
Casey here might have an iron stomach, but:
Source (Piped)
At 1:10 in the video I can see some FPS and latency issues which is exactly what makes folks sick in the first place. Dude says he's had it for an hour at that point. I wonder how long he'd actually been wearing it. But absent any sort of evidence that this is a misrepresentation, I'll take it at face value.
If this guy actually used pass-thru for an hour straight without getting sick, he's certainly the first one I've seen. It's an impressive feat and kudos for finding it.
If I understand those headsets correctly it shuts down if it detects movement. Either walking, driving etc. The review I was watching a dude couldn't use it in a subway. So there is no way this dude is using it while driving down the road. But still obstructs your vision too much.
I don't think that's the case. I've seen videos of them being used on the subway. I also know somebody that has one and it definitely doesn't mind if you walk around.
This is not entirely true. You can be moving but the headset needs tracking information to keep things stationary. There’s specifically a travel mode for the Vision Pro for using it on subways and planes and things. I’m assuming you’re talking about Casey’s video on the subway. He didn’t know about the travel mode.
It could be fake, but it's just as, if not more likely real. The video is clearly a public road with other traffic around (waiting at the lights).
Also Tesla are having enough difficulty getting their autopilot features signed off, and Apple definitely wouldn't want to advertise their Vision as a tool you can use while driving.
I never said, or meant to say, the guy wasn't wearing an actual headset. I'm saying this was done to get attention and the guy isn't going around driving with a headset on when the camera isn't rolling. It's a fake controversy drummed up by an attention whore who clearly hit a nerve.