Wait till you hear what happens on the factory farms that nearly everyone's meat and dairy comes from. Animals would be lining up for a chance to be treated as well as this dolphin that died at the hands of this bastard.
It’s a livestock’s life that’s more inhumane, not its death. “Riddled with bullets” is undoubtedly more painful than cutting open the superior vena cava.
That being said, what they did to the dolphin is horrible, and I hope they get caught.
If only they all got simply cut along the superior vena cava. I know it would be great if they all had wonderful happy deaths, but unfortunately they simply don't. For example, anyone who eats factory farm eggs has the fact that countless baby chicks are thrown into blenders while still alive on their conscience. It is great when people show what they think happens on those farms because it gives opportunity for people to point what actually is happening. Hopefully, more interactions like this will help to end the hypocrisy of it all.
Look at all the downvotes I'm getting, people absolutely leach onto anything that makes them feel the bad people are the ones who point out how awful these farms are.
You haven’t gotten any downvotes, and your comment is eight hours old. You don’t need to be a martyr to make a point. You’re right that the farming industry is cruel.
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I wasn't talking about the potential future downvotes from that comment. I was talking about all the past downvotes that I already got on my original comment.
As an aside, I'm pretty sure that not any amount of downvotes can grant someone martyrhood status.
You got down votes for shoehorning the same tired "but you eat meat!" argument that always gets brought up.
I guess using that logic we must think machine gunning dolphins is fine if we also eat chickens or something, what a dumb take.
That's why you were down voted, you probably picked up a bunch more when you complained about them.
Imagine you go over to someone's house, and as soon as you walk in, you get overwhelmed by the smell of feces. You walk into the living room, and there is a dog in a cage that it barely fits into. The cage is so tight around its body that it is unable to turn around. You realise there are inches of fecal sludge caked into the bottom of the entire cage. Upon close inspection, you realise that the teeth of the dog have been removed. You are told that by removing the teeth, it can't bite. You ask how it doesn't get so sick that it dies, and you are shown a handful of pills that it is given that fight off its infections and diseases.
You are absolutely disgusted, and you rightfully say so. The response of the owner is this, "This is the same tired argument of 'Nobody can have pets!' That always gets brought up."
This is exactly what you just did.
I never said anything about anyone not being allowed to eat meat, but you have been so conditioned that whenever anyone points out how bad factory farms are, you immediately try to defend them by acting like the only possible way to eat meat is to do it that way. This is not because you are an idiot, it is just because of how clever and motivated the bastards that are doing this to animals are. They are able to convince good-meaning, kind people like yourself to fight on their defense whenever anyone tries to chalange them.
There are many people, now, and all throughout history, that eat meat in a way that is not deplorable, but that way doesn't make large factory farms rich, it doesn't put more money into the billionaires pockets. So, they recruited you, and many others to work for them. They are very smart, and they succeeded.
By the way, I have no idea how you've taken anything Isaid to mean that I think it is OK to machine gun dolphins if you also eat chickens. I never said anything remotely like that. I agree whole-heartedly that that is, indeed, a very dumb take.
Whole lotta angry paragraphs for someone that couldn't figure out why they were down voted, you should work on that.
Yeah, I would be unable to respond in any meaningful way if I were trying to argue your side as well. I know why I'm downvoted. I'm downvoted because I point out a disgusting habit that many people have and they hate to think about. That's fine though, if I can get through to a single person, it is worth it. Think hard about which side you are on here, it's not a good side at all. Deep down you know that. Sometimes anger is the appropriate response. You'd be angry too if you developed a moral compass.
…aka the dumbest take
There is a very good reason why you can't even attempt to explain your justification for factory farms and all you can do it say "...aka the dumbest take".
You have no moral justification, all you have is childish selfishness with no regard for anyone but yourself. Your entire life has lead up to the best you can do is try to tear down compationate people because you think it will give you a temporary feeling of not being disgusting.
You could do better, but first you need to at least want to develop will power and self control. I hope for your sake that you never have to experience the hell that you so giddily inflict on others.
Or maybe don't try to shoe horn the issue in as a non-sequitor and take umbrage when called out?
When people show outrage about the abuse of a single animal, it is in no way "shoe horning" or a "non-sequitor" to point out the massive animal abuse that many people are supporting. I understand that people hate hearing about, but it's still true.
It is 100% you bringing your own agenda without regard or consideration for the discussion at hand.
You're not trying to add to the discussion by jumping in and championing your cause without reading the room.
I'm sorry it is so hard for you to make the connection between one abused animal and many abused animals. I don't know what else to say. This is text book cognitive dissonance. Two things couldn't be more related.
Oh, it's not that at all. You just come off as very holier than thou the way you shove into and escalate the discussion without regard for others, but great job capturing some attention.
Yeah, I'm the one without regard for others here. The whole side you are arguing for is not having regard for others. That's literally what this discussion is about. I say "have regard for others", and you say "no, lol".
The thing is, I agree with you about the suffering of animals.
You're just a sanctimonious self important prick trying to flaunt your imagined moral superiority as some kind of bullshit purity test as to whether people care about animals.
Have fun with that, don't stop to wonder why people walk away.
Standing up for what you believe isn't sanctimonious. I hope you eventually learn to quit caring so much what others think about you and that you can start to express your true opinions. Sure, some people will be offended and walk away, but those aren't the best types of people anyway. Quality is much more important than quantity when it comes to who you spend your time with.
…aka the dumbest take
I'm sorry you've been so hurt, I hope you get better.
…aka…
I have no idea why you're being downvoted. The fishing industry is possibly the biggest monster in the world and people are just fine with what they can not see.
I used to own a sailboat. I can tell say first hand it can be disgusting out there. Ya'll need to watch some documentaries. Thousands of marine animals are being slaughtered right now while you're reading this.
I have no idea why you're being downvoted.
Probably because shooting a random dolphin isn't great
Yeah taking “single dolphin shot repeatedly” to “but what about the fishing industry” isn’t a productive take, it’s whataboutism. They are independent issues, and trying to put focus on one removes the focus from the other
I think it's good to make people connect their disdain for animal abuse to something they can actually do something about
I don't think this is whataboutism in its most deflective form; I think it's, "Why are we concerned about a one-off incident but not looking at the elephant in the room?"
I guess I don't consider things whtaaboutism if it's pointing to something that encapsulates the original issue. These issues are not mutually-exclusive and signal the same problem: It's just asking why people are inconsistent with their outrage. In other words, whataboutism in this context can be effective when pointing out hypocrisy and double-standards.
To contrast, whataboutism as a deflection tends to be a substitute for, "You did it, too! Thus ignore what I did / what I did wrong is justified." Again, this is not that.
Except one (shooting a dolphin repeatedly) is an act of sport or maliciousness, while the slaughter of marine mammals is an issue of the fishing industry. It’s like someone locking someone up in their basement vs the unjust imprisonment for many inmates that happens in the US. One is personal, and specific, one is systemic, happens all the time, and needs to be approached with a broader scope. They are all wrong, but you can’t lump them together because you are generally upset
I think we can absolutely say that industrialized slaughter is objectively worse in terms of the scale of suffering for the victims. We abstract the moral suffering in the fishing farm; but whoa, if someone individually shoots an animal — totally different! At the end of the day, scale is what matters.
Personally I couldn't care less about the assailant's state of mind; what matters is the victim
I never said one was worse, I just said that derailing the conversation of one to focus on the other wasn’t productive
I disagree because it connects two topics — one that is generally accepted by society — to another that everyone perceives as wrong because of an intimate emotional reaction.
Sure, but instead of saying “what about the shit they are doing to other sea life,” it could be worded as “this is a good time to check up on what’s going on with the fishing industry in general, here’s some links, and ways you can help”
One is just telling people they are assholes for even caring about the shot dolphin and should be better people by caring about bigger issues, the other is knowing people will care about the emotional story and then guiding them to learn more about the shit that happens in the fishing industry. People are emotional, you can’t just say “hey dummies what about this” and expect it to connect, it doesn’t help, you need to guide people.
Saying this is unimportant and people should focus elsewhere is disruptive and doesn’t move people toward bigger issues. Connecting this to bigger issues through conversation and generally better rhetoric does
This is a really great way to phrase it. I am very curious to see if this difference in phrasing would really be received differently than the more blunt approach, which certainly doesn't seem to work for most people. Hopefully, we will all have AIs soon that can spoon feed anyone who can't connect the dots on their own.
It blows my mind that people can be reminded of the mass slaughter that is happening daily and think that it must somehow be excusing the one-off brutal slaughter of an individual. I always just assume that people hate to be reminded of the implication of their "sustainable" wild caught tuna or whatever.
Can't argue with that, I agree!
It's a one time incident. This is like when everyone lost their minds when a single turtle got a straw stuck in its nose. I'm not saying that wasn't a bad thing. Just like I never said someone shooting a dolphin isn't horrible.
But why offer a 20K reward for this while completely ignoring the mass slaughter taking place every day? Talk about unproductive.
I want to know what the dolphen was wearing, maybe a dark hoodie. Will they release the arrest record of the dulphin? What was the dolphin holding? Why is so much media attention going to this one dolphon? All sea creatures matter. I read the fisherman thought it was his taser and feared for his life, let's see how you react in a dark alley with a young dofin.
Dofin is their word, we really shouldn't be using it at all. Dolphin is the acceptable spelling and term.
No no, it's okay, my nephew is half porpoise, I can say that.
I heard the dolphin has no currently active warrants, and may have been armed, although no weapon was located at the scene.
Well I'm 1/8 dolphin, my great great grandmother was a dolphin princess.
Loooooool
I’d really prefer if you used “D***n” instead of typing out the word. It’s kind of jarring to see it out there even in an educational context.
"HE HAD A BLOWGUN I FEARED FOR MY SAFETY"
That Dolphin was No Angel!!!!!!!!!! Stand for are Cop’s and Kneel for are Cross!
If it was a dauphin that was shot, everyone in this corner of the Fediverse would be cheering.
I hear he was buying skittles and a drink. Dolphin was clearly making lean.
The only way this story could be more American was if it had been a child dolphin, in a public school.
We gotta arm the teacher fish
"The dolphin, a juvenile, had injuries consistent with being shot with a firearm," NOAA said.
Halfway there! 🙏
* pupfish school
Holy shit that's evil.
Article says near New Orleans, Louisiana if you’re wondering
Cameron Parish is near New Orleans in the same way that Delaware is near Virginia.
Folks not from the south treat it the same way a good hunk of Americans treat Europe, think it’s culturally homogeneous, can’t pronounce the name of most towns/cities properly, and believe that we get along and like one another.
As though I’d ever say anything positive about South Carolina or Florida
Now thats just damned well inaccurate, some of us dont think of the south at all except for when we see yous plates. Seriously the only part of the south I care to think about is Arkansas more specifically around little rock since ive got kin there.
yous plates
Not sure if yinzer that relocated or typo?
Nope Im from SoCal. My dialect and accent are absolutely fucked, got me Southern, northern Appalachia, brogue, and fucken 1800s great laker influences and thats not even accounting for the random hick/redneck influence from the last hundred years.
Seriously the last of my actual blood relatives who lived in Arkansas was just after the civil war, problem is it got past from grandparent to grandchild. Meaning my southern part is at least 150 years out of date, makes me sound like a particularly rural Okie when it kicks in.
Luckily I am largely incapable of transliterating said abomination accent unless im fucken real tired, which I was when I made my previous comment. Also if youre curious on if all of them can be active at once, yes. Its a facsimile of a language.
This is American af 🇺🇸
Yes. It's good to see the NOAA jumping in like this.
I don't know, the killer didn't commence to deep fry it...
Or shove a bag of cocaine in its blowhole and claim it was resisting...
Also there's no confirmation as to whether this dolphin was at school.
Nah, if a cop killed this dolphin, they would admit it but claim they thought the dolphin had a gun, get put on paid administrative leave, get cleared of all charges and then go back to work.
We’ve reached level of absurdity in consensus reality that i unironically want to see the media circus involving a cop accusing a dolphin of having a gun.
I for one back the blue.
To be clear though, I mean the ocean, fuck the police capital defense force.
We should have the police fight the ocean for the right to be called “the Blue”, with the Sky coming in with the steel chair
I guess the dolphin may have been at the floating stage?
Damn who is beefing with sea life?
Who votes Trump?
I'm against the death penalty. But maybe whoever did this to the dolphin should also get to experience what it went through.
I've got news for you: you're not against the death penalty.
Eh, I said what I said when my emotions were high on this. Still against the death penalty though.
If you are for the death penalty when your emotions are high, you are for the death penalty period. People who are against the death penalty don't go on the record in support of the death penalty, because it's a principle, not something that you only stand for when it is convenient for you.
If the death of an animal is enough to make you flip, you're probably going to side with most death sentences since they relate to the murder of human beings.
Someone could murder members of my family, and I would still be against the death penalty, because that's who I am. You're not going to hear me calling for anyone's death, regardless of my emotional state, because I know that doesn't solve anything, and it is bad for our society as a whole.
Want to know one of the reasons why forest fires are so bad in California? It's because we stopped doing controlled burns and allowed places to become so overgrown and dry that the fires go out of control. (Climate change too, but not the point)
My point being is that it's a ridiculous stance to suggest that all life has value to society. This is simply untrue, much in the same way that Elon Musk isn't billions of times more valuable than his employees.
I don't know what to say other than I'm sorry for your family. I will absolutely drop a motherfucker for threatening my family, and there isn't a single argument you can make about that being bad for society.
Alright man, I guess I'm a shit human being that's not perfect and my words don't matter because it seems that you've made up your mind about me as a person from one comment on the Internet.
Couldn't it have washed ashore and then someone used it as target practice? Artical says gunshots happened near the time of death.
The authorities likely checked the dolphin's internal temperature to figure out time of death. And if the wounds had been hemorrhaging = the dolphin was alive when it was shot.
This is the same way authorities figure out when a person died and if injuries occured before or after death.
Artical says gunshots happened near the time of death.
Well yeah... gunshot wounds and death tend to be highly correlated.
OK real shit if you shot and killed a dolphin, why in the fuck would you not harvest the meat? Like when else are you ever gonna get to try dolphin? Obviously I wouldn't personally shoot a dolphin but if I did you can bet your ass I'm gonna try its meat instead of letting it rot
Like the guy that killed the wolf in Wyoming? Surprisingly a lot of people that play around with guns seem to think that life is cheap, They're willing to kill people for lots of reasons, like arguing over parking spaces or whatever. Animal life is cheaper still. When you have a hammer you're just looking for nails, and a dolphin is just another throwaway to shoot at.
Dolphins can rape...so in the 0.000000001% chance that it raped its killer or did some other kind of gruesome attack, I guess that could be the justification.
Not defending it; just trying to answer your hypothetical questions! Lmao
Just buy a can of tuna.
Because the entire point was clearly to torture an intelligent being. Disturbing.
Dolphin: I have information that could lead to the arrest of Hillary Cli-
Sucks for the dolphin but I'm not sure why everyone cares so much. There are real murders happening.
What is sad is you don’t understand that this is a real murder.
Its not that I don't "understand" I just disagree. I do not value animal lives as much as human lives which is why I'm not referring to this as a real murder. This is sad of course and whoever did it deserves to be punished for it. Its just odd to me that this is such a big deal to so many people when so many human beings are being murdered on a daily basis. The reaction I've seen to this outweighs that of any human murder I've seen in recent memory.
Great point. It's really too bad that humans evolved to only be able to consider one thing at a time, and therefore nobody can care about the murder of a dolphin AND the deaths of humans.
Fucking bummer. But I guess we're limited by our biology.
On the plus side, considering this means I don't care about what they were saying now!
I would rather see an effort to do something about the nets
Why not both?
It can be both. The reality is that this is likely one mentally ill person while there are thousands being killed by fishing nets but I didn't see any articles or rewards posted for those killers.
Yeah, it would be great to catch that one psycho, but it would be way better to catch the psychos that do this all day every day. I think that's the point they were trying to make.
Why in the world is this being downvoted? An absurd number of dolphins are murdered as an accidental byproduct of commercial net fishing every single day. What the hell goes through the mind of a fool that downnvotes this comment?
Yeah but what would we do without disgusting fish in a can?
try better canned fish. don't yuk my yum. go for line caught for tuna if dolphin death is an issue for you. wild planet is good and pretty widely available. safecatch is really tasty but even more expensive. sardines also range from the crap you buy for a buck to some really gourmet stuff at 15 bucks a tin.
The same types of people that support the genocide of Gaza. There is so much mental illness in the world these days.
The fuck is wrong with people
I don't know, but guns seem to enhance it.
Might have been self defense. They're real rapey.
I get the sarcasm
No one wants to take a joke...
Wait till you hear what happens on the factory farms that nearly everyone's meat and dairy comes from. Animals would be lining up for a chance to be treated as well as this dolphin that died at the hands of this bastard.
It’s a livestock’s life that’s more inhumane, not its death. “Riddled with bullets” is undoubtedly more painful than cutting open the superior vena cava.
That being said, what they did to the dolphin is horrible, and I hope they get caught.
If only they all got simply cut along the superior vena cava. I know it would be great if they all had wonderful happy deaths, but unfortunately they simply don't. For example, anyone who eats factory farm eggs has the fact that countless baby chicks are thrown into blenders while still alive on their conscience. It is great when people show what they think happens on those farms because it gives opportunity for people to point what actually is happening. Hopefully, more interactions like this will help to end the hypocrisy of it all.
Look at all the downvotes I'm getting, people absolutely leach onto anything that makes them feel the bad people are the ones who point out how awful these farms are.
You haven’t gotten any downvotes, and your comment is eight hours old. You don’t need to be a martyr to make a point. You’re right that the farming industry is cruel.
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I wasn't talking about the potential future downvotes from that comment. I was talking about all the past downvotes that I already got on my original comment.
As an aside, I'm pretty sure that not any amount of downvotes can grant someone martyrhood status.
You got down votes for shoehorning the same tired "but you eat meat!" argument that always gets brought up.
I guess using that logic we must think machine gunning dolphins is fine if we also eat chickens or something, what a dumb take.
That's why you were down voted, you probably picked up a bunch more when you complained about them.
Imagine you go over to someone's house, and as soon as you walk in, you get overwhelmed by the smell of feces. You walk into the living room, and there is a dog in a cage that it barely fits into. The cage is so tight around its body that it is unable to turn around. You realise there are inches of fecal sludge caked into the bottom of the entire cage. Upon close inspection, you realise that the teeth of the dog have been removed. You are told that by removing the teeth, it can't bite. You ask how it doesn't get so sick that it dies, and you are shown a handful of pills that it is given that fight off its infections and diseases.
You are absolutely disgusted, and you rightfully say so. The response of the owner is this, "This is the same tired argument of 'Nobody can have pets!' That always gets brought up."
This is exactly what you just did.
I never said anything about anyone not being allowed to eat meat, but you have been so conditioned that whenever anyone points out how bad factory farms are, you immediately try to defend them by acting like the only possible way to eat meat is to do it that way. This is not because you are an idiot, it is just because of how clever and motivated the bastards that are doing this to animals are. They are able to convince good-meaning, kind people like yourself to fight on their defense whenever anyone tries to chalange them.
There are many people, now, and all throughout history, that eat meat in a way that is not deplorable, but that way doesn't make large factory farms rich, it doesn't put more money into the billionaires pockets. So, they recruited you, and many others to work for them. They are very smart, and they succeeded.
By the way, I have no idea how you've taken anything Isaid to mean that I think it is OK to machine gun dolphins if you also eat chickens. I never said anything remotely like that. I agree whole-heartedly that that is, indeed, a very dumb take.
Whole lotta angry paragraphs for someone that couldn't figure out why they were down voted, you should work on that.
Yeah, I would be unable to respond in any meaningful way if I were trying to argue your side as well. I know why I'm downvoted. I'm downvoted because I point out a disgusting habit that many people have and they hate to think about. That's fine though, if I can get through to a single person, it is worth it. Think hard about which side you are on here, it's not a good side at all. Deep down you know that. Sometimes anger is the appropriate response. You'd be angry too if you developed a moral compass.
…aka the dumbest take
There is a very good reason why you can't even attempt to explain your justification for factory farms and all you can do it say "...aka the dumbest take".
You have no moral justification, all you have is childish selfishness with no regard for anyone but yourself. Your entire life has lead up to the best you can do is try to tear down compationate people because you think it will give you a temporary feeling of not being disgusting.
You could do better, but first you need to at least want to develop will power and self control. I hope for your sake that you never have to experience the hell that you so giddily inflict on others.
Or maybe don't try to shoe horn the issue in as a non-sequitor and take umbrage when called out?
When people show outrage about the abuse of a single animal, it is in no way "shoe horning" or a "non-sequitor" to point out the massive animal abuse that many people are supporting. I understand that people hate hearing about, but it's still true.
It is 100% you bringing your own agenda without regard or consideration for the discussion at hand. You're not trying to add to the discussion by jumping in and championing your cause without reading the room.
I'm sorry it is so hard for you to make the connection between one abused animal and many abused animals. I don't know what else to say. This is text book cognitive dissonance. Two things couldn't be more related.
Oh, it's not that at all. You just come off as very holier than thou the way you shove into and escalate the discussion without regard for others, but great job capturing some attention.
Yeah, I'm the one without regard for others here. The whole side you are arguing for is not having regard for others. That's literally what this discussion is about. I say "have regard for others", and you say "no, lol".
The thing is, I agree with you about the suffering of animals.
You're just a sanctimonious self important prick trying to flaunt your imagined moral superiority as some kind of bullshit purity test as to whether people care about animals.
Have fun with that, don't stop to wonder why people walk away.
Standing up for what you believe isn't sanctimonious. I hope you eventually learn to quit caring so much what others think about you and that you can start to express your true opinions. Sure, some people will be offended and walk away, but those aren't the best types of people anyway. Quality is much more important than quantity when it comes to who you spend your time with.
…aka the dumbest take
I'm sorry you've been so hurt, I hope you get better.
…aka…
I have no idea why you're being downvoted. The fishing industry is possibly the biggest monster in the world and people are just fine with what they can not see. I used to own a sailboat. I can tell say first hand it can be disgusting out there. Ya'll need to watch some documentaries. Thousands of marine animals are being slaughtered right now while you're reading this.
Probably because shooting a random dolphin isn't great
Yeah taking “single dolphin shot repeatedly” to “but what about the fishing industry” isn’t a productive take, it’s whataboutism. They are independent issues, and trying to put focus on one removes the focus from the other
I think it's good to make people connect their disdain for animal abuse to something they can actually do something about
I don't think this is whataboutism in its most deflective form; I think it's, "Why are we concerned about a one-off incident but not looking at the elephant in the room?"
I guess I don't consider things whtaaboutism if it's pointing to something that encapsulates the original issue. These issues are not mutually-exclusive and signal the same problem: It's just asking why people are inconsistent with their outrage. In other words, whataboutism in this context can be effective when pointing out hypocrisy and double-standards.
To contrast, whataboutism as a deflection tends to be a substitute for, "You did it, too! Thus ignore what I did / what I did wrong is justified." Again, this is not that.
Except one (shooting a dolphin repeatedly) is an act of sport or maliciousness, while the slaughter of marine mammals is an issue of the fishing industry. It’s like someone locking someone up in their basement vs the unjust imprisonment for many inmates that happens in the US. One is personal, and specific, one is systemic, happens all the time, and needs to be approached with a broader scope. They are all wrong, but you can’t lump them together because you are generally upset
I think we can absolutely say that industrialized slaughter is objectively worse in terms of the scale of suffering for the victims. We abstract the moral suffering in the fishing farm; but whoa, if someone individually shoots an animal — totally different! At the end of the day, scale is what matters.
Personally I couldn't care less about the assailant's state of mind; what matters is the victim
I never said one was worse, I just said that derailing the conversation of one to focus on the other wasn’t productive
I disagree because it connects two topics — one that is generally accepted by society — to another that everyone perceives as wrong because of an intimate emotional reaction.
Sure, but instead of saying “what about the shit they are doing to other sea life,” it could be worded as “this is a good time to check up on what’s going on with the fishing industry in general, here’s some links, and ways you can help”
One is just telling people they are assholes for even caring about the shot dolphin and should be better people by caring about bigger issues, the other is knowing people will care about the emotional story and then guiding them to learn more about the shit that happens in the fishing industry. People are emotional, you can’t just say “hey dummies what about this” and expect it to connect, it doesn’t help, you need to guide people.
Saying this is unimportant and people should focus elsewhere is disruptive and doesn’t move people toward bigger issues. Connecting this to bigger issues through conversation and generally better rhetoric does
This is a really great way to phrase it. I am very curious to see if this difference in phrasing would really be received differently than the more blunt approach, which certainly doesn't seem to work for most people. Hopefully, we will all have AIs soon that can spoon feed anyone who can't connect the dots on their own.
It blows my mind that people can be reminded of the mass slaughter that is happening daily and think that it must somehow be excusing the one-off brutal slaughter of an individual. I always just assume that people hate to be reminded of the implication of their "sustainable" wild caught tuna or whatever.
Can't argue with that, I agree!
It's a one time incident. This is like when everyone lost their minds when a single turtle got a straw stuck in its nose. I'm not saying that wasn't a bad thing. Just like I never said someone shooting a dolphin isn't horrible.
But why offer a 20K reward for this while completely ignoring the mass slaughter taking place every day? Talk about unproductive.
Preach
Downvoted for speaking the truth
That reminds me, gotta make dinner, some nice juicy chicken should do fine!
Gotta pick up some ice cream as well!
Nah, I just added some semi relevant information, just like the comment before mine
Man, you showed him with your factory farmed bird flue
If there is a bird in your flue you should not light the fire until you clean it out.
If you immediately know the candlelight is fire, then the meal was cooked a long time ago.
… are you high?
I want what they're on.
I want to know what the dolphen was wearing, maybe a dark hoodie. Will they release the arrest record of the dulphin? What was the dolphin holding? Why is so much media attention going to this one dolphon? All sea creatures matter. I read the fisherman thought it was his taser and feared for his life, let's see how you react in a dark alley with a young dofin.
Dofin is their word, we really shouldn't be using it at all. Dolphin is the acceptable spelling and term.
No no, it's okay, my nephew is half porpoise, I can say that.
I heard the dolphin has no currently active warrants, and may have been armed, although no weapon was located at the scene.
Well I'm 1/8 dolphin, my great great grandmother was a dolphin princess.
Loooooool
I’d really prefer if you used “D***n” instead of typing out the word. It’s kind of jarring to see it out there even in an educational context.
"HE HAD A BLOWGUN I FEARED FOR MY SAFETY"
That Dolphin was No Angel!!!!!!!!!! Stand for are Cop’s and Kneel for are Cross!
If it was a dauphin that was shot, everyone in this corner of the Fediverse would be cheering.
I hear he was buying skittles and a drink. Dolphin was clearly making lean.
The only way this story could be more American was if it had been a child dolphin, in a public school.
We gotta arm the teacher fish
Halfway there! 🙏
* pupfish school
Holy shit that's evil.
Article says near New Orleans, Louisiana if you’re wondering
Cameron Parish is near New Orleans in the same way that Delaware is near Virginia.
Folks not from the south treat it the same way a good hunk of Americans treat Europe, think it’s culturally homogeneous, can’t pronounce the name of most towns/cities properly, and believe that we get along and like one another.
As though I’d ever say anything positive about South Carolina or Florida
Now thats just damned well inaccurate, some of us dont think of the south at all except for when we see yous plates. Seriously the only part of the south I care to think about is Arkansas more specifically around little rock since ive got kin there.
Not sure if yinzer that relocated or typo?
Nope Im from SoCal. My dialect and accent are absolutely fucked, got me Southern, northern Appalachia, brogue, and fucken 1800s great laker influences and thats not even accounting for the random hick/redneck influence from the last hundred years.
Seriously the last of my actual blood relatives who lived in Arkansas was just after the civil war, problem is it got past from grandparent to grandchild. Meaning my southern part is at least 150 years out of date, makes me sound like a particularly rural Okie when it kicks in.
Luckily I am largely incapable of transliterating said abomination accent unless im fucken real tired, which I was when I made my previous comment. Also if youre curious on if all of them can be active at once, yes. Its a facsimile of a language.
This is American af 🇺🇸
Yes. It's good to see the NOAA jumping in like this.
I don't know, the killer didn't commence to deep fry it...
Or shove a bag of cocaine in its blowhole and claim it was resisting...
Also there's no confirmation as to whether this dolphin was at school.
Nah, if a cop killed this dolphin, they would admit it but claim they thought the dolphin had a gun, get put on paid administrative leave, get cleared of all charges and then go back to work.
We’ve reached level of absurdity in consensus reality that i unironically want to see the media circus involving a cop accusing a dolphin of having a gun.
I for one back the blue.
To be clear though, I mean the ocean, fuck the
policecapital defense force.We should have the police fight the ocean for the right to be called “the Blue”, with the Sky coming in with the steel chair
It's an American tradition: https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/opinion/columns/2021/01/15/trump-monogrammed-manatee-takes-political-depravity-new-depths/4183686001/
Fuck.
Quick, let's pass a law to let the sea turtles conceal carry!
The only thing that can stop a bad fish with a gun is a good fish with a gun.
Would a shark with a frickin' laser beam attached to its head count?
Will someone think of the sea mammals/reptiles?
The obvious solution is to arm other dolphins with AR-15s.
I think SONAR-15s are the aquatic version
GOD DAMMIT that was the first thing I thought of and I was just about to post it! Post was 6 hours ago, your reply was 44 minutes ago. I was too late.
I hate you, have my upvote.
I thought I was too late to the party as well. It was 5 hours old when I posted, which is usually past most of the engagement.
I feel so bad for laughing at this lmao
Maybe it was another dolphin. They don't report dolphin-on-dolphin violence.
Whomever it was, it was done on porpoise.
Just as the Founders intended.
"Fuck the dolphins!" - Thomas Jefferson, probably
*Founders penning constitution beneath whale oil lanterns. Yea, probably?
What do the changelings care about sea mammals?
Off-topic, but it's annoying how Lemmy will grab an image for a post, you go to the article, and can't find it anywhere... wtf?
Bullets slow down exponentially in water. They caught a dolphin and then shot it to death on land.
Or shot a curious dolphin at the surface.
I wonder about that. Aren't dolphins and whales non-buoyant, in the sense that they sink when they die?
Looking, I find https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/what-happens-when-whales-die.html
I guess the dolphin may have been at the floating stage?
Damn who is beefing with sea life?
Who votes Trump?
I'm against the death penalty. But maybe whoever did this to the dolphin should also get to experience what it went through.
I've got news for you: you're not against the death penalty.
Eh, I said what I said when my emotions were high on this. Still against the death penalty though.
If you are for the death penalty when your emotions are high, you are for the death penalty period. People who are against the death penalty don't go on the record in support of the death penalty, because it's a principle, not something that you only stand for when it is convenient for you.
If the death of an animal is enough to make you flip, you're probably going to side with most death sentences since they relate to the murder of human beings.
Someone could murder members of my family, and I would still be against the death penalty, because that's who I am. You're not going to hear me calling for anyone's death, regardless of my emotional state, because I know that doesn't solve anything, and it is bad for our society as a whole.
Want to know one of the reasons why forest fires are so bad in California? It's because we stopped doing controlled burns and allowed places to become so overgrown and dry that the fires go out of control. (Climate change too, but not the point)
My point being is that it's a ridiculous stance to suggest that all life has value to society. This is simply untrue, much in the same way that Elon Musk isn't billions of times more valuable than his employees.
I don't know what to say other than I'm sorry for your family. I will absolutely drop a motherfucker for threatening my family, and there isn't a single argument you can make about that being bad for society.
Alright man, I guess I'm a shit human being that's not perfect and my words don't matter because it seems that you've made up your mind about me as a person from one comment on the Internet.
Fuck James.
Couldn't it have washed ashore and then someone used it as target practice? Artical says gunshots happened near the time of death.
The authorities likely checked the dolphin's internal temperature to figure out time of death. And if the wounds had been hemorrhaging = the dolphin was alive when it was shot.
This is the same way authorities figure out when a person died and if injuries occured before or after death.
Well yeah... gunshot wounds and death tend to be highly correlated.
@BradleyUffner @ThePantser Correlation != Causation
You can just say you didn't understand the joke. No need to misapply an overused truism.
@BradleyUffner
I was also making a joke
OK real shit if you shot and killed a dolphin, why in the fuck would you not harvest the meat? Like when else are you ever gonna get to try dolphin? Obviously I wouldn't personally shoot a dolphin but if I did you can bet your ass I'm gonna try its meat instead of letting it rot
Like the guy that killed the wolf in Wyoming? Surprisingly a lot of people that play around with guns seem to think that life is cheap, They're willing to kill people for lots of reasons, like arguing over parking spaces or whatever. Animal life is cheaper still. When you have a hammer you're just looking for nails, and a dolphin is just another throwaway to shoot at.
Dolphins can rape...so in the 0.000000001% chance that it raped its killer or did some other kind of gruesome attack, I guess that could be the justification.
Not defending it; just trying to answer your hypothetical questions! Lmao
Just buy a can of tuna.
Because the entire point was clearly to torture an intelligent being. Disturbing.
https://i.ibb.co/NjzRHyF/IMG-5210.gif
But seriously, humanity is the herpes of planet, Earth. 😤
Who's to say it wasn't another dolphin? Those things are smart and also violent. They probably can figure out how to shoot a gun.
If they get in cahoots with the Orcas attacking ships, we're screwed.
The beluga mafia strikes again. Flipper sleeps with the humans.
We should check with the dolphins known associates. Maybe this was a gang killing.
Or raping
According to IDF it's a Palestinian... Oops, Hamas dolphin!
He brought it to himself
/Ironic
Sounds to me like dolphins need to step up their game.
https://theweek.com/articles/476840/are-dolphins-gangsters-sea
Should we give them gatling guns?
Damn it feels good to be a dolphin.
America, FUCK YEAH!
Yeah Flipper isnt just a name
Dolphin: I have information that could lead to the arrest of Hillary Cli-
Sucks for the dolphin but I'm not sure why everyone cares so much. There are real murders happening.
What is sad is you don’t understand that this is a real murder.
Its not that I don't "understand" I just disagree. I do not value animal lives as much as human lives which is why I'm not referring to this as a real murder. This is sad of course and whoever did it deserves to be punished for it. Its just odd to me that this is such a big deal to so many people when so many human beings are being murdered on a daily basis. The reaction I've seen to this outweighs that of any human murder I've seen in recent memory.
Great point. It's really too bad that humans evolved to only be able to consider one thing at a time, and therefore nobody can care about the murder of a dolphin AND the deaths of humans.
Fucking bummer. But I guess we're limited by our biology.
On the plus side, considering this means I don't care about what they were saying now!
I would rather see an effort to do something about the nets
Why not both?
It can be both. The reality is that this is likely one mentally ill person while there are thousands being killed by fishing nets but I didn't see any articles or rewards posted for those killers.
Yeah, it would be great to catch that one psycho, but it would be way better to catch the psychos that do this all day every day. I think that's the point they were trying to make.
Why in the world is this being downvoted? An absurd number of dolphins are murdered as an accidental byproduct of commercial net fishing every single day. What the hell goes through the mind of a fool that downnvotes this comment?
Yeah but what would we do without disgusting fish in a can?
try better canned fish. don't yuk my yum. go for line caught for tuna if dolphin death is an issue for you. wild planet is good and pretty widely available. safecatch is really tasty but even more expensive. sardines also range from the crap you buy for a buck to some really gourmet stuff at 15 bucks a tin.
The same types of people that support the genocide of Gaza. There is so much mental illness in the world these days.
Wut