Ah, good idea putting the fire in the tent, that way the fire will stay warm
No, that's fine. It's the 👍 thumb! Look at it! It's freakishly small but not ridiculously small.
Or the single Wolverine stick claw.
that's just a sardine, I think
The hot air is also guaranteed to keep the tent up.
If you put the whole ass campfire in the tent, it might fly away. Put the fire in the freezer overnight, then thaw it out in chunks when needed.
Alternatively, scrape some glue off your pizza and use it to stick the tent's bottom to the ground.
I always pack several tablets of dehydrated water with me so if I'm running out, I can just dissolve a couple to have something to drink or cook with
Great advice. I've sometimes woken up several fields over after the fire has been a bit ferocious. The screams of my family as we've flown over people's houses has also caused some complaints.
It also stores a lot of heat in the walls of the tent, which will keep the air inside from cooling down too much over the course of the night.
I did not notice that, all I did was look at the image on autopilot
Transcript of me examining this picture:
"Okay, face looks okay, jacket makes sense, let's look at the hands. Looks like four fingers on her left hand there, the right hand, thumb's a little screwy, is that a stick or is she part tarsier? Something's kind of screwy there. Boots look about right, there's even a pretty decent depth of field on the sho-THE FIRE IS IN THE TENT.
Man I didn't even notice the fire in the tent until I read your comment ...
I noticed the fire and I noticed the tent. I was too distracted by the hands to notice that the fire was in the tent... What has AI images done to me? Haha.
You're not alone. I expect far too long focused on the hands and face....
Also is this an AI making a dumb blonde joke?
I mean I can think of a few ways to keep a text warm.
A few ways involving a dumb blonde...
This ain't it chief!
Though considering I didn't notice the location of the fire until reading the comment, maybe I should the dumb blonde....
Reminds me of the Dad joke:
Set a man a fire, he's warm for the night.
Set a man on fire, he'll be warm the rest of his life!
That tent is about to get real hot.....
The eyes see what they want to see 🤷♂️
It's like that test where you count the number of basketballs and miss the guy in the gorilla costume.
A smart move would have been to put a real photo here and then troll all the comments about uncanny valley ...and by smart I mean evil.
...
I will totally do that in future.
( btw. the hands are still messy ☝️)
Did you miss the fire in the tent too?
I've seen enough posts on Instagram to not be surprised by idiots ruining a perfectly good tent just for a shot 🤷♂️
I think it'd be pretty tricky to get a fire going at that size and get the photo taken before the thin plastic of the tent melted or burst into flames. The tent in the picture is fine, which I honestly think would be impossible with that setup, even if you tried to be quick
How about the stick that is glued on top of her hand?
That's part of the "messy hands"
It would be neat to have a community where images are posted and people discuss whether they are authentic photos or AI generated.
LOL
I was like “Ok where’s the catch? Too many fingers? 3 feet? Dang those pictures are good now, was OP just being serious?” And then I saw. Fucking hilarious.
Thanks for the laugh OP
Cheers mate, I needed to share the joy ^^
Yeah, this was a good one: I spent way too long counting fingers and looking closely at the detailed parts of the picture before I saw it
It's not that these images are perfect - it's that they're close enough.
The "problem" is that these images look amazing with a minimal touchup - something which would happen anyway to a real photo.
An extra hour to two fixing some AI artifacts (the ol' droop-eye and derp-hand) is a LOT cheaper than getting actual people out to an actual location and taking an actual photo.
EDIT: I just realised the tent is on fire 🤡
Honestly if you did those touch ups and said it was real I would still believe it, reminds me of that subreddit where they post weird Stockphotos. Like the lady soldering but she's holding the hot bit of the solder iron, or the hackerman with the faux mask. Serious stock photos can be hilarious sometimes.
The tells
Hands issues, thumb and metal claw
Face issue, studio lighting on face, right eye is not eyeing.
Body issues, left leg is a weird tiny leg
Boot laces lack credibility
Fire in a tent
AI is bad at the details.
I've gotten so used to looking at the details that I didn't even notice the blatant fire-in-the-tent.
I was staring at the hands and thinking it wasn't too bad.
They're terrible!
I actually kind of love that AI art can't even pretend to do hands right. But also I had an instructor who's catch phrase was ''if you let the computer do it, it's gonna suck'' so. Not really a surprise AI can only defeat art that's placid and uninspired shit. and can't even do anything on model or sequential... it's just... it can be a placeholder and that's about it.
Same!
Prespective is not done properly. Trying to spoof 3D with a 2D model.
I read AI and I am focused exclusively on the hands. So much that at first I didn't even see the fire...
Same lol
AI in the tent:
I hate how obsessed AI has made me with hands and feet. cause that used to be how you noticed AI pics (still is, to a degree, but they are sadly getting better at not creating abomination limbs), they always fucked up the hands and feet.
and now I find my eyes immediately drawn to hands and feet of any picture, even in real life, cause this stupid bullshit has trained my eyes to scan for weird digital hallucinatory biology.
and I can not begin to express in human language how much I hate it now that i've noticed it
And sometimes people just have weird hands. I remember seeing a picture from a Trump rally somebody posted, and people were like "Why does everybody look so weird?" "Must be AI. Look at that baby's mutant alien hands." It was a picture from 2017, before all this AI shit started.
Supposedly theres a porn star from the '90/00's that had a club foot. Super hot, but always had the one foot out of the frame or covered.
Probably "folk lore" but what you said reminded me of that.
To be fair, I'm not sure this is an unrealistic scenario of your average instagram influencer going out camping.
The finglonger!
"So that's what things would be like if I invented the finglonger..."
A man can dream though. A man can dream.
Apparently Ai can't do average or ugly people.
tricky but doable
prompt: lemmy.world average user,
this one could be my twin.
Are those computers running windows? That's a very inaccurate AI.
Both look very much like .NET development with C# in Visual Studio. Each of these way too much Microsoft for a Lemmy user to touch.
Person #2 is way too masculine and attractive. The people in picture #3 are way too close to touching grass and socializing. The furry (#4) is indeed the most believable.
"Person #2" would have a hell of a time buying premade shirts.
Gloves, too.
Is nobody seeing the 8 inch difference in arm length?
More like 10-15 cm but yes
Maybe is just a theme 🤷♂️
Hey, it’s me! Spot on. But should be arch.
2 fat guy pictures, but with quite the averagely-tended faces and a somewhat digital touch-up. 1 outright regular, maybe overweight person with semitic beard. 1 absolutely fabulous gentleman with furry undertones.
Not even closely ugly. Just some quantifiable stuff imo.
This one kind of reminds of Larry Ellison but looks a bit more human than the real Larry
So... I'm safe from deep fake?
You are first safe from jealousy and as a product safe from people wanting to use deep fakes against you
Fuck I was totally convinced until I saw her shoe laces
what about the metal rod extending from her right hand?
That's a genetic condition, racist
Just a shitty version of Wolverine
Nah that's normal, obviously
And that could be one if the "totally lifehack" ways of tieing your shoes that never make any sense.
This reminds me of camping in my youth with my alcoholic uncle.
Your uncle is hot
I think more that the fire is hot cuz he made it in a tent
You better not be gearing up to go all Deliverance on us with that story
Deliverance didn’t have drunk uncles.
I mean, that's just a minor detail. And Deliverance taught me how to prepare for south of Market clubs in my 20s. IYKYK.
The fire IN the tent is hilarious
Best to keep the fire contained so you dont burn nature.
It's funny how the generators arent getting better. They've plateaued pretty hard in terms of believability. Glance value? Convincing.
Under any level of scrutiny though this falls apart in at least a dozen ways.
I think the scale of image believability is logarithmic. Going from "believable at a glance" to "believable under scrutiny" requires an exponential increase in performance compared with going from "not believable at a glance" to "believable at a glance". The same principle applies to text generation, facial recognition, sound generation, image enhancement, etc. One of the many reasons AI should not be being integrated in many of the ways world governments and corporations are trying to integrate it.
It's unclear if the current models can reach that level though. They seem more like they're asymtotically approaching their limit.
Maybe I'm wrong and GPT 5 will be the end all and be all - but I don't think generalist models will ever be consistent enough. Specialist generators focused on specifics, trained to output very defined data seem more likely to be useful than this attempt to make a single catch all LLM.
It's more the free and public versions have plateaued
Gpt 4 premium pictures still have these major issues.
"AI" image generation actually takes a lot of human knowledge and understanding of the models to manipulate outcomes. It is a different kind of effort, but the issues with it are based in human use of the tool.
Prompt engineering isn't a real field bro
That's a cozy fire for sure.
Dang, that is pretty spot on! When I go camping, I often find myself contemplating a pretend fire in front of me while I prepare for carbon monoxide poisoning in my tent...but I keep my flaps open! Safety first!
At some point some artist is going to screw with all of us by taking a real photo with a campfire in a tent.
Already happened. A real photo won in an ai art contest.
You can tell it is fake because no human would tie up the tent door flaps using the little nylon fettuccine thingies they sew onto each side
Uh
Nice asbestos tent, but she still got Gollum fingers doe. 😏
her fingers are still funky but not terrible!
Wolverine somehow ended up in the model data and there you have it.
Is this the female Wolverine?
That’s the tell. Wolverine’s daughter is a brunette.
Plus side is generating them is increasing global warming
Yes and no.
Generating images instead of not generating images? Increases global warming
Generating vacation images instead of flying to vacation? Net benefit
Create 1,000 images with a model like Stable Diffusion XL, and you’ve produced as much carbon dioxide as driving just over four miles in a gas-powered car, according to the researchers Melissa spoke to.
Still incredibly impressive. I wouldn’t believe this was prompt generated just a few years ago.
Which bit is uncanny to you?
The thing that got me was the lighting. I've been camping and you just can't get a good photo of your tent fire. Not as well lit as this at least.
The lighting doesn’t feel very natural. It’s inconsistent.
Her hair and face suggest a direct sunlight from the left, but the environment suggests indirect sunlight. The background trees should have more direct sunlight to the left.
The tentfire should also spill out some light to the environment.
The tent also suggests the sunlight comes from the right.
Consistent lighting is something AI is currently struggling with. It gives off a Photoshop edit vibe.
I don't trust people with fire-proof tents.
So the fire inside the tent would not give it away a few years back?
I would think it was a weird photoshop job.
Except for the super long pinky finger shes cute
Her pointer finger is longer than her middle finger, too. The chick in the movie Species was super cute too. Just saying.
It's funny how similar AI generated images are to accompanying drawings for "what are ten things that are wrong with this picture?" style questions in an IQ test.
How will artists ever compete with this?
What a cozy fire.
Every time I see the body horror AI produces I feel like I'm MacReady at McMurdo in desperate need of my flamethrower.
I've seen live people actually starting a bonfire in their living room something like 20 years ago, so to me this is perfectly possible :D
They never get the hands right lol
The magical half chair, half rock.
That rock she’s sitting on looks really uncomfortable. Sitting on a knife’s edge…
Op this is such a wonderful troll lol. Half the comments are eating it right up.
<3
The eyes look demonic
She has the same skeletal structure as Wolverine it seems.
Achtually Wolverine can't bend his wrists
Looks fine to me. I'm an ordinary human just like you.
Is it the finger mutation? It's the cybe finger mutation, isn't it.
Too perfect but wrong hands
The fire also looks a bit too intents to me 😉
I like how it was able to handle the fire's lighting effect and tent occulsion, and I wonder if it thinks of it like a fireplace, as inside a home.
Lol, nice way to wake up seeing this
This AI was trained on Dr Seuss's Wacky Wednesday
Even with foreshortening, those are some freakishly short legs.
this is clearly AI generated the boot laces look weird
Ah, good idea putting the fire in the tent, that way the fire will stay warm
No, that's fine. It's the 👍 thumb! Look at it! It's freakishly small but not ridiculously small.
Or the single Wolverine stick claw.
that's just a sardine, I think
The hot air is also guaranteed to keep the tent up.
If you put the whole ass campfire in the tent, it might fly away. Put the fire in the freezer overnight, then thaw it out in chunks when needed.
Alternatively, scrape some glue off your pizza and use it to stick the tent's bottom to the ground.
I always pack several tablets of dehydrated water with me so if I'm running out, I can just dissolve a couple to have something to drink or cook with
Great advice. I've sometimes woken up several fields over after the fire has been a bit ferocious. The screams of my family as we've flown over people's houses has also caused some complaints.
It also stores a lot of heat in the walls of the tent, which will keep the air inside from cooling down too much over the course of the night.
I did not notice that, all I did was look at the image on autopilot
Transcript of me examining this picture:
"Okay, face looks okay, jacket makes sense, let's look at the hands. Looks like four fingers on her left hand there, the right hand, thumb's a little screwy, is that a stick or is she part tarsier? Something's kind of screwy there. Boots look about right, there's even a pretty decent depth of field on the sho-THE FIRE IS IN THE TENT.
Man I didn't even notice the fire in the tent until I read your comment ...
I noticed the fire and I noticed the tent. I was too distracted by the hands to notice that the fire was in the tent... What has AI images done to me? Haha.
You're not alone. I expect far too long focused on the hands and face....
Also is this an AI making a dumb blonde joke?
I mean I can think of a few ways to keep a text warm. A few ways involving a dumb blonde...
This ain't it chief!
Though considering I didn't notice the location of the fire until reading the comment, maybe I should the dumb blonde....
Reminds me of the Dad joke: Set a man a fire, he's warm for the night. Set a man on fire, he'll be warm the rest of his life!
That tent is about to get real hot.....
The eyes see what they want to see 🤷♂️
It's like that test where you count the number of basketballs and miss the guy in the gorilla costume.
A smart move would have been to put a real photo here and then troll all the comments about uncanny valley ...and by smart I mean evil.
...
I will totally do that in future.
( btw. the hands are still messy ☝️)
Did you miss the fire in the tent too?
I've seen enough posts on Instagram to not be surprised by idiots ruining a perfectly good tent just for a shot 🤷♂️
I think it'd be pretty tricky to get a fire going at that size and get the photo taken before the thin plastic of the tent melted or burst into flames. The tent in the picture is fine, which I honestly think would be impossible with that setup, even if you tried to be quick
How about the stick that is glued on top of her hand?
That's part of the "messy hands"
It would be neat to have a community where images are posted and people discuss whether they are authentic photos or AI generated.
LOL
I was like “Ok where’s the catch? Too many fingers? 3 feet? Dang those pictures are good now, was OP just being serious?” And then I saw. Fucking hilarious.
Thanks for the laugh OP
Cheers mate, I needed to share the joy ^^
Yeah, this was a good one: I spent way too long counting fingers and looking closely at the detailed parts of the picture before I saw it
It's not that these images are perfect - it's that they're close enough.
The "problem" is that these images look amazing with a minimal touchup - something which would happen anyway to a real photo.
An extra hour to two fixing some AI artifacts (the ol' droop-eye and derp-hand) is a LOT cheaper than getting actual people out to an actual location and taking an actual photo.
EDIT: I just realised the tent is on fire 🤡
Honestly if you did those touch ups and said it was real I would still believe it, reminds me of that subreddit where they post weird Stockphotos. Like the lady soldering but she's holding the hot bit of the solder iron, or the hackerman with the faux mask. Serious stock photos can be hilarious sometimes.
The tells
Hands issues, thumb and metal claw
Face issue, studio lighting on face, right eye is not eyeing.
Body issues, left leg is a weird tiny leg
Boot laces lack credibility
Fire in a tent
AI is bad at the details.
I've gotten so used to looking at the details that I didn't even notice the blatant fire-in-the-tent.
I was staring at the hands and thinking it wasn't too bad.
They're terrible!
I actually kind of love that AI art can't even pretend to do hands right. But also I had an instructor who's catch phrase was ''if you let the computer do it, it's gonna suck'' so. Not really a surprise AI can only defeat art that's placid and uninspired shit. and can't even do anything on model or sequential... it's just... it can be a placeholder and that's about it.
Same!
Prespective is not done properly. Trying to spoof 3D with a 2D model.
I read AI and I am focused exclusively on the hands. So much that at first I didn't even see the fire...
Same lol
AI in the tent:
I hate how obsessed AI has made me with hands and feet. cause that used to be how you noticed AI pics (still is, to a degree, but they are sadly getting better at not creating abomination limbs), they always fucked up the hands and feet.
and now I find my eyes immediately drawn to hands and feet of any picture, even in real life, cause this stupid bullshit has trained my eyes to scan for weird digital hallucinatory biology.
and I can not begin to express in human language how much I hate it now that i've noticed it
And sometimes people just have weird hands. I remember seeing a picture from a Trump rally somebody posted, and people were like "Why does everybody look so weird?" "Must be AI. Look at that baby's mutant alien hands." It was a picture from 2017, before all this AI shit started.
Supposedly theres a porn star from the '90/00's that had a club foot. Super hot, but always had the one foot out of the frame or covered.
Probably "folk lore" but what you said reminded me of that.
Rob Leifeld is a time traveller and used AI for all his drawings.
I mean that was a plot point on the Truman show so..
To be fair, I'm not sure this is an unrealistic scenario of your average instagram influencer going out camping.
The finglonger!
"So that's what things would be like if I invented the finglonger..."
A man can dream though. A man can dream.
Apparently Ai can't do average or ugly people.
tricky but doable
prompt: lemmy.world average user,this one could be my twin.
Are those computers running windows? That's a very inaccurate AI.
Both look very much like .NET development with C# in Visual Studio. Each of these way too much Microsoft for a Lemmy user to touch.
Person #2 is way too masculine and attractive. The people in picture #3 are way too close to touching grass and socializing. The furry (#4) is indeed the most believable.
"Person #2" would have a hell of a time buying premade shirts.
Gloves, too.
Is nobody seeing the 8 inch difference in arm length?
More like 10-15 cm but yes
Maybe is just a theme 🤷♂️
Hey, it’s me! Spot on. But should be arch.
2 fat guy pictures, but with quite the averagely-tended faces and a somewhat digital touch-up. 1 outright regular, maybe overweight person with semitic beard. 1 absolutely fabulous gentleman with furry undertones.
Not even closely ugly. Just some quantifiable stuff imo.
This one kind of reminds of Larry Ellison but looks a bit more human than the real Larry
So... I'm safe from deep fake?
You are first safe from jealousy and as a product safe from people wanting to use deep fakes against you
Fuck I was totally convinced until I saw her shoe laces
what about the metal rod extending from her right hand?
That's a genetic condition, racist
Just a shitty version of Wolverine
Nah that's normal, obviously
And that could be one if the "totally lifehack" ways of tieing your shoes that never make any sense.
This reminds me of camping in my youth with my alcoholic uncle.
Your uncle is hot
I think more that the fire is hot cuz he made it in a tent
You better not be gearing up to go all Deliverance on us with that story
Deliverance didn’t have drunk uncles.
I mean, that's just a minor detail. And Deliverance taught me how to prepare for south of Market clubs in my 20s. IYKYK.
The fire IN the tent is hilarious
Best to keep the fire contained so you dont burn nature.
It's funny how the generators arent getting better. They've plateaued pretty hard in terms of believability. Glance value? Convincing.
Under any level of scrutiny though this falls apart in at least a dozen ways.
I think the scale of image believability is logarithmic. Going from "believable at a glance" to "believable under scrutiny" requires an exponential increase in performance compared with going from "not believable at a glance" to "believable at a glance". The same principle applies to text generation, facial recognition, sound generation, image enhancement, etc. One of the many reasons AI should not be being integrated in many of the ways world governments and corporations are trying to integrate it.
It's unclear if the current models can reach that level though. They seem more like they're asymtotically approaching their limit.
Maybe I'm wrong and GPT 5 will be the end all and be all - but I don't think generalist models will ever be consistent enough. Specialist generators focused on specifics, trained to output very defined data seem more likely to be useful than this attempt to make a single catch all LLM.
It's more the free and public versions have plateaued
Gpt 4 premium pictures still have these major issues.
"AI" image generation actually takes a lot of human knowledge and understanding of the models to manipulate outcomes. It is a different kind of effort, but the issues with it are based in human use of the tool.
Prompt engineering isn't a real field bro
That's a cozy fire for sure.
Dang, that is pretty spot on! When I go camping, I often find myself contemplating a pretend fire in front of me while I prepare for carbon monoxide poisoning in my tent...but I keep my flaps open! Safety first!
At some point some artist is going to screw with all of us by taking a real photo with a campfire in a tent.
Already happened. A real photo won in an ai art contest.
Yup: https://www.artnews.com/art-news/news/photographer-wins-ai-image-contest-real-picture-gets-disqualified-1234709692/
You can tell it is fake because no human would tie up the tent door flaps using the little nylon fettuccine thingies they sew onto each side
Uh
Nice asbestos tent, but she still got Gollum fingers doe. 😏
her fingers are still funky but not terrible!
Wolverine somehow ended up in the model data and there you have it.
Is this the female Wolverine?
That’s the tell. Wolverine’s daughter is a brunette.
Plus side is generating them is increasing global warming
Yes and no.
Generating images instead of not generating images? Increases global warming
Generating vacation images instead of flying to vacation? Net benefit
I would say that compares maybe be wrong.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/05/23/1092777/ai-is-an-energy-hog-this-is-what-it-means-for-climate-change/
How, that's scary, thanks!
There’s still something uncanny about it.
Still incredibly impressive. I wouldn’t believe this was prompt generated just a few years ago.
Which bit is uncanny to you?
The thing that got me was the lighting. I've been camping and you just can't get a good photo of your tent fire. Not as well lit as this at least.
The lighting doesn’t feel very natural. It’s inconsistent.
Her hair and face suggest a direct sunlight from the left, but the environment suggests indirect sunlight. The background trees should have more direct sunlight to the left.
The tentfire should also spill out some light to the environment.
The tent also suggests the sunlight comes from the right.
Consistent lighting is something AI is currently struggling with. It gives off a Photoshop edit vibe.
I don't trust people with fire-proof tents.
So the fire inside the tent would not give it away a few years back?
I would think it was a weird photoshop job.
Except for the super long pinky finger shes cute
Her pointer finger is longer than her middle finger, too. The chick in the movie Species was super cute too. Just saying.
It's funny how similar AI generated images are to accompanying drawings for "what are ten things that are wrong with this picture?" style questions in an IQ test.
How will artists ever compete with this?
What a cozy fire.
Every time I see the body horror AI produces I feel like I'm MacReady at McMurdo in desperate need of my flamethrower.
I've seen live people actually starting a bonfire in their living room something like 20 years ago, so to me this is perfectly possible :D
They never get the hands right lol
The magical half chair, half rock.
That rock she’s sitting on looks really uncomfortable. Sitting on a knife’s edge…
Op this is such a wonderful troll lol. Half the comments are eating it right up.
<3
The eyes look demonic
She has the same skeletal structure as Wolverine it seems.
Achtually Wolverine can't bend his wrists
Looks fine to me. I'm an ordinary human just like you.
Is it the finger mutation? It's the cybe finger mutation, isn't it.
Too perfect but wrong hands
The fire also looks a bit too intents to me 😉
I like how it was able to handle the fire's lighting effect and tent occulsion, and I wonder if it thinks of it like a fireplace, as inside a home.
Lol, nice way to wake up seeing this
This AI was trained on Dr Seuss's Wacky Wednesday
Even with foreshortening, those are some freakishly short legs.
this is clearly AI generated the boot laces look weird