Deja Brew

SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world – 1578 points –
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People in this thread are acting like microwaving coffee turns it into vinegar.

Coffee tastes absolutely fine reheated in the microwave.

Yup, can confirm. Sometimes I forget to finish my coffee too. James Hoffman on youtube did some testing and he agrees that microwave is perfectly fine and might even be the best method to reheat coffee

Is it the nocebo effect and filthy microwave interior leeching pizza roll flavor into my coffee? No, it's the micro-wavelengths vibrating water molecules who are to blame!

Reheating coffee doesn't make it bad, be it in the microwave, on the stove or hot plate. Not finishing your coffee and letting it get cold just to reheat it later definitely makes it worse.

This is not something subjective, oxidation is very real. If you don't believe me, peel an apple and let it sit for the same amount of time as you let your coffee sit and then you will see the effects.

When you brew coffee you extract all these oils and goodies from the beans thst have been protected by the antioxidants and expose them to air. While they will not turn to vinegar, they do oxidize and therefore degrade quite rapidly.

Yes but have you considered that we are all philistines who need our fast juice

If you want some decent quality coffee fast, you can tryan automatic espresso machine. It's not gonna be cheap, but it will surely deliver something vastly superior to any reheated coffee

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Déjà Brew
I didn't drink from this cup before
Leaving it to cool
And I know it keeps happening
Calling you, caffeine is a mystery
Falling back asleep
It's so hard when I try to wake up
Whooaaahh

I imagine this is what plays when you put the cup slightly off center on the microwave turntable so it starts drifting in wide circles when you turn it on.

The em waves in a microwave are standing waves, meaning energy is deposited in the food only on some spots, and the spots remain static as the microwave is running. Therefore, positioning food to the outside of the tray will make it move through these spots more vs if it was only rotating at the center.

Tldr drift your food for maximum heat distribution.

Seems plausible: the wavelength is in a good size range for such an effect to be noticeable.

I found that in a typical microwave oven, the frequency is about 2450 MHz. Using the formula, velocity = frequency × wavelength and knowing that the velocity of an electromagnetic wave is about 3.0 × 108 m/s, gives a wavelength of about 12 cm.

Same thing happens in chemical mixing in a vat. You want it off center. I might have a diagram in one of my old textbooks if you want.

Maybe that's a sign to make less coffee, bruv

Usa

Good at :

Dominating countries through cut throat capitalism

Horrendous at:

Brewed beverages

providing universal healthcare

Ok, we suck at coffee. I get it.

But we brew good beer! Lots of it! There’s an independent brewery on every corner! Soon they’ll outnumber the Starbucks’s!

Some of them are even starting to do spiked seltzer and booch! That’s a whole new level of brewing…that’s brewing life itself!

First of all, brew as in use hot water to extract flavour from something.

Secondly, APAs and the like are not beer, they're hops based lemonade.

Thirdly, every country has some independent thing doing some artisan craft; but as a group, you guys suck at this.

Every brewery I’ve ever been to has had a variety of styles and often their flagship brew isn’t even an xPA.

Also the typical brewing range for beer is between 40-70 degrees Freedom. There’s a lot of heat in that as far as atoms are concerned.

Every brewery I’ve ever been to has had a variety of styles and often their flagship brew isn’t even an xPA.

and yet you flood every market and memesphere with shitty IPAs/APAs. It's a joke friend, just take your fucking lumps and don't um actually the place. I'm sure you have 3 good beers in a brewery that sells 30 types of beer, meanwhile other countries have less brewereies making fewer variants of beer, but most of them are good and different kinds of bere.

That’s probably because most European countries have deep cultural and culinary roots in their modern beers.

America being a relative newcomer country of immigrants, we as a country have very few cultural or culinary roots of our own. So we borrow, and innovate, and ultimately have to appeal to a very large variety of individuals who have their own preferences, inspired by their own cultures.

wow, that's a great point, how old is your country? 250 years? And you say it's made mostly of people who claim to have heritage from british isles and germany, places famous for brewing beer?

Wow, it's incredible that none of those people that stole the land from the natives didn't know how to properly brew beer, and in 250 years you didn't manage to develop a respectable beer culture.

But you know, cut throat capitalism and being the world leader of motion picture and music propaganda, you got in one. Bravo.

EDIT : also, LEARN TO BREW TEA AND COFFEE WITHOUT A MICROWAVE YOU SAVAGES.

Who the hell is brewing coffee in the microwave? Maybe boiling water for instant…but even people who drink instant know that that’s not coffee.

I use an electric kettle like most of the civilized world. And I cold brew my coffee.

But even aside from that…the varieties that you see around Europe are closely correlated to the types of grains and hops and in some cases wild yeast that was available to them. We brought most of that over with us and grew it here. Native crops just don’t offer much. Nobodies drinking corn wine.

Also, distilled spirits are the far more interesting fight. We do that pretty damn good, and a lot of that spawned out of a few short years of prohibition. Or talk to us about cider and peach wine.

Who the hell is brewing coffee in the microwave?

OP. THE FUCKING OP IS BREWING COFFEE IN THE MICROWAVE YOU YANK TWAT

Op is heating up, not brewing.

Some people reheat old coffee. It’s a choice, usually born out of frugality and time constraints (brew a pot, store it, reheat later).

I disagree with it, but also I don’t really like hot coffee. And the people who drink that hot mud are usually the types that like it with a ton of cream and sugar. Like my first boss. Who would get a medium dunks iced 6/6 or 8/8 if she was feeling indulgent. Thats basically just ice cream that saw coffee brewing on the other side of the room at that point.

Some people also buy cold brew premade coffee and heat that if they want a hot cup. IMO that’s a bit smoother taste (reheated hot brew is just downright gross), but it loses points in frugality. Still cheaper than drive-thrus, and more convenient than actually brewing a pot.

Man I thought Americans had anger issues.

You think Americans are bad, you should see what NileRed does to coffee.

People are heating up coffee in microwave? TIL.

A drink needs reheating so they use a convenient household equipment to reheat it. How controversial. How sacrilegious.

I am not sure about coffee, but heating water in a microwave may result in superheated water, which is above the boiling point without boiling. This can be quite dangerous, as it might start boiling at any time. In chemistry you usually put a boiling chip in the water when heating it in a test glass to avoid this.

Doesn't this only happen with pure distilled water though?

I'm pretty sure it also has to be contained in a pressure chamber too. If it's not, the steam just disperses into the atmosphere along with the excess heat.

It shouldn't happen with coffee, superheated water requires there to be nowhere for the bubbles to form but even tap water normally has enough minerals dissolved in it for that to not be a problem.

Would be really rare with coffee since there would be a whole lot of nucleation sites, that is the dissolved coffee itself plus bubbles.

Even when I'm heating water in the microwave, it's just habit that I tap the mug or peck with a teaspoon before having it near my face.

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I swear this ruins the coffee

Instead of reheating it, put a little ice in it and call it an iced coffee.

It definitely tastes worse but I think it's still fine. Also it's partly a punishment from having forgotten to drink it in the first place 😔

Ice coffee is not the same vibe as hot coffee at all. I can drink hot coffee black, for instance, but I need sugar in ice coffee.

Try maple syrup in the iced coffee, total game changer! It's pretty much the only way I drink it now.

I don't know if this was supposed to be a rebuttal or if you're just sharing what you like in your coffee, but maple syrup is literally sugar.

Not a rebuttal, just saying if someone needs sugar in their iced coffee that maple syrup is a really good option

Gotcha, personally I don't like it as I find it takes on a burnt flavor. I love maple syrup on lots of other things though.

Still not the same vibe as hot coffee, but I’ve never thought of maple syrup in coffee. Sounds tasty!

I mean how else would you reheat a cold coffee?

You wouldn't. You'd make new coffee. Not trying to be condescending. I literally wouldn't reheat coffee because if it's been standing long enough to get cold, it no longer tastes good.

I don't think what you said was condescending, it just sounds wasteful to me tbh. I'm not throwing it away just because it got cold and it doesn't taste fresh anymore.

People do shit like that but then they bought the brown coffee filters instead of the white ones so they're still saving the environment 🙄

It's about creating less waste for me and not really about saving the environment. I just don't like to be wasteful.

It was a general comment on the duality of people's attitudes towards environmentalism. Didn't really mean to aim it at you specifically.

Ah, so it's a sort of punishment for yourself for not drinking it while it was hot? You made it, so now by god you'll drink it? Maybe invest in an insulated cup or thermos then. 😂

Not really, it would just feel like unnecessary waste. Though I did make a comment about punishment as a joke.

I think Americans boil their water in the microwave.

I don't, but can I ask why that's bad? The water gets hot, lol. Are people afraid of the microwaves getting in their water or something?

Because there's no temperature control and it can explode.

My kettle will heat water consistently to boiling point every time without going over.

It really takes some very special conditions for that to happen. Every time I've boiled water in the microwave it's always boiled fine just like on the stove.

It takes leaving it in a bit too long and either moving or adding something to your water, it's not that difficult.

Third-degree burns aren't something I'd really want to risk just for some coffee.

I just press the 2 minute button and out comes perfectly hot water every time

No, don't act like it's because you're worried about their safety. It's clearly just another item Europeans use to condescend towards Americans. Both you and I know it.

1: I'm Australian.

2: Go take your victim complex and shove it.

The fact that you're australian barely changes what I said. It changes the least important part. Sorry for the assumption. My bad. The main point still stands though.

You're only kidding yourself if you don't think there's an air of condescension towards Americans online.

I've not heard of this before but I also never boil my water in the microwave since it takes too long. Usually just warning it up (so 1 or 2 minutes depending on what I'm doing)

It is because you might create superheated water, which is not boiling while being above the boiling point. Since it can start boiling at any time, it can be a little dangerous to handle superheated water.

That’s what really happened in Flint, MI. There was no contaminated water, it was only an experiment in public safety to add supplements to the water to prevent the hideous catastrophe of explosive boiling. It will soon be rolled out nationwide

Turns Out, America Only Just Discovered The Electric Kettle & The Internet Is Going Wild

I remember this sweep over the internet. Considering the speed and simplicity of kettles for decades, what a weird thing to see of Americans. Especially since they made the first one ever.

Historically kettles never really caught on because we only have 110v power, so our kettles are bogus compared to nearly everywhere else in the world.

Hey man, that's not true! I can go into the laundry room, unplug my dryer, and plug in a 220V kettle with a special adapter, or go out in the garage and unplug the table saw. Convenient options!

I have to believe it’s also the popularity. Maybe it’s too much my own experience but:

  • most people drink coffee
  • tea drinkers historically didn’t have a high end

Maybe I’m not sure how to phrase it but in my lifetime, coffee went from hideous burnt crap to something where we care about a high end. Coffee in general has gotten much better, there are way more choices, and there is a visible niche of people who spend way too much time and money looking for the perfect brew.

In the US, tea is following this path, but much later. Most of my life tea drinkers may have argue over the best brand of tea bags, but it was the same old swill their Moms may have used (they may disagree with that characterization). It’s only much more recently that tea in the US has become a “thing” something people pay attention to, something with a “high end”. At the grocery, tea choices are not as wide as coffee, but now you have a much greater variety of brands, sources, flavors, preparation methods. Tea is only in recent years enough of a “thing” to get excited over, pay too much time and attention to.

Or in my house, I don’t understand my teenagers and their weird tea drinking ways, when I have three different ways of making coffee. However this kettle thing is great for hot chocolate and caffe mocha

Plus they were boring and plain, who wants that in a kitchen. Now we have glass and chrome, cool electronics, blue LEDs, phone apps

That demonstrates a fundamental ignorance of how electricity works.

Voltage is only half the power equation. The other half is current. Power = voltage x current

So if a kettle on 110V can draw twice the current, it will have exactly the same amount of power and will heat the water in exactly the same amount of time as a kettle on 220V that draws half the current.

Bro, 15a is pretty much standard with 20a outlets being the exception. Still, most appliances are only 1500w in the US.

Yes obviously you could custom make a 4500w kettle that ran on 115v but nobody sells one.

Your comment demonstrates a fundamental ignorance... What? Who talks like that. Stupid pedantic fool.

Oooh. That actually makes a lot of sense.

Your linked article even says this

You actually read it? I doubt any of us did. It's Marie Claire too; you really didn't have to.

Maybe some use the microwave, but most Americans have a stovetop kettle. I use an electric kettle myself.

I mean if you don't have a kettle, it's a fine way of accomplishing the task.

And if you don't have a microwave?

a) what are you doing with your life? You're missing out!

b) the stove top is the next option.

If you don't have a stove top?

a) ok, now you're most likely living rough. Sorry bro.

b) light a campfire. If you also don't have a pot, go get one, or use some other heatproof container.

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this is why some never stop beeping until you open them.

Glitch in the matrix.

Nah that's just adhd

The number of times I find a piece of candy, a snack, or a can of soda in my pocket because “I’m gonna want this…just not right now” happened at some point earlier in the day is too damn high.

That's what the machines want us to think.

I'm the same but not with coffee. I better drink it cold that rewarm. Everyone knows that "café bouillu, café foutu."

You know it's possible to heat it up without boiling it.

But it still tastes worse after heating up. That's why dump hot chocolate mix in, like a real connoisseur!

You have to warm it very slowly. It's pretty much impossible with a microwave but not with a saucepan.

I might try you chocolate trick one day. What do you mean by chocolate mix? The kind you add in milk to make chocolate milk?

Tomorrow, there'll be 3 mugs

No, that person would just drank the one in the microwave, put the one they were holding into the microwave and forget about it until tomorrow. Then the cycle goes on...

Can you be certain that it’s not the same mug, but experienced through some sort of dimensional/ time shift portal thingy?

I see you've met my coworker. Often open the microwave to find something she previously heated sitting there. Always gives us a good laugh!

I did the exact same thing twice yesterday! Good to see I'm not the only one with a broken brain.

I'm amazed at this person being amazed at having two identical cups. Who even does that, who buys multiple cups that match... /s

Deja brew! I've just been in this place before (higher on the counter) And I know it's my time to go Calling you And the search is a mystery (standing on my feet) It's so hard when I try to be me, woah!

Nah I’m sippin that cold as well. gotta keep the caffeine high

I have this, my microwave sits on top of the fidge and i keep opening the freezer instead of the microwave from time to time

I find it funny that heating the coffee for 99 makes it hotter than heating it for 100. Just waking up, that's mindboggling.

Man... I have done it multiple times.... Well I find it before the next day because I usually heat something or somebody else does but man...

Although mine is usually just milk.

Careful, that's a glitch. The police have probably surrounded you.

OMG this reminds me that I've left some coffee in the french press since the morning... now it's 11pm to me

I guess it's going to be a problem for the future me

Microwaves should beep again in a few minutes if you don't open the door.

Mine actually drives me crazy because i never forget stuff is in there I'm just being lazy or letting it cool down

coffee
microwave

wtf

How would you reheat it?

Turn my machine back on; it heats the pot.

It also scorches the coffee, ever wonder why your coffee always tastes burnt in the afternoon? Microwaving just heats it up without burning the dissolved coffee

Keyword being "my". Your machine sounds like it has an element below the pot. I'd say nearly zero home coffee machines have this in the US.

Doesn't most drip machines do this? Mr. Coffee?

One of the more common fixtures in American coffee drinking homes is a drip brewer. It pours hot water over a basket of grounds into a glass carafe which sits on a heating element to keep it warm.

Personally, I dislike the taste and never drink that much coffee. I use a Clever Dripper to make my one large cup before work, drink it, and go. Depending on my mood or time available I might make an espresso based drink, but my Clever otherwise meets my daily needs.

I don't drink coffee anymore but how can I sign up to get paid to advertise the Clever Dripper™ on social media?

I’ve owned 3 or 4 coffeemakers and every single one of them has had a heating element below the carafe. My current machine even has a setting for how many hours it stays on after brewing. The problem with reheating coffee this way is that it takes a good 15 minutes to actually get hot again whereas my microwave takes 60 seconds.

So you'd pour the coffee back in the pot to reheat it?

Who microwaves coffee? Probably every italian rolls in their grave.

Who throws away perfectly good coffee just because its cold?

Yeah i am thinking of that too. Just DRINK it. Dont waste energy that way.

You make coffee, go to your desk again and start working. After an hour you notice your mug standing there... What now, throwing it away or reheating it?

You drink it? Or if you really dont like it. Throw it away and tell yourself you dont need it for today.

Microwaving is the best way to reheat coffee. If you're careful enough to not overheat it and burn it, it's good.

Just the word reheating makes me throw up. I am not that sort of coffee junky that needs to reheat cold coffee, just chug it up or throw it away. Dont waste electricity for that.

Lol what? People like their coffee hot. Lukewarm coffee is just bleh. I'm personally also talking about black coffee, nothing else added to it. If you made coffee, and it gets cold in like an hour, then why would it be weird to heat it up? A lot more wasteful to throw out coffee than to use the microwave for 15 seconds.

Wow didnt knew that there was so many weirdos that microwave everything.

How the fuck else would you reheat your coffee?

You put it on the stove top or something?

Or let me guess. You’ll toss it and make a whole new cup of it…so wasteful

You drink it cold. You know reheating costs electricity too? I think it would be more effective to redo that than reheat it in the microwave.

If you are so forgetfull that you dont even drink your coffee after 30 minutes of making it, i recommend you should not do coffee at all.

Brewing a smaller quantity of coffee could also be beneficial.

But really we're talking about such small amounts of energy and coffee in the grander scheme of things it's pretty inconsequential

Why would I drink it cold when I can just put it in the microwave for a minute?

Do you drink hot chocolate cold too? Weird.

Then it would taste weird, as it already cooled down. And yes, because i am not a weirdo that just microwaves everything that is cold.

Is your butter cold? Microwave it! Is your stake cold and uncooked? Microwave it!

This is how it sounds to me.

Sounds like you lack culinary education to me. The fact you think all of these things are equivalent is a dead give away.

There is a big difference between enjoying warm brewed coffee and drinking it at a hot temperature vs cooking a steak in the microwave.

Butter is supposed to be “cold” but if you plan to bake a cake it makes perfectly good sense for it to be at room temperature. Nothing wrong with putting it in the microwave at a low setting for a few seconds to bring it up to room temperature. Otherwise if you don’t the butter will have a difficult time incorporating into the dry ingredients which will substantially change the texture of the cake.

I am sorry that your parents failed you.

Or you just put it out few minutes before using the butter. Wow i thought you were better in cooking, or did your mother not teached you how to cook? You probably bake the cake you mentioned in your microwave.

I hope you didnt tried to microwave a fork, so its warm for your hands.

Yeah, they also have these machines that just keeps coffee warm in a pot all day long.

But people also call that soluble garbage coffee, so who knows.

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