J.D. Vance says he gets bad press because most journalists are “childless adults”

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J.D. Vance says he gets bad press because most journalists are “childless adults”
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He's really just got that one "accomplishment" he's proud of, huh?

You guys! I did it! Like, with an actual woman! And, wait for it, no condom! You guys, I wennt in raw! And I totally came inside! Is your mind blown yet?

If the world didn't have so many J.D. Vances in it, I would reconsider having children.

Wow, he really wants to go with the "childless" thing, huh? Should go over swimmingly with Millenials and Gen Z that can't afford to have children anymore.

He just wants Millennials to be the happy and proud parent Trump is of his children- Ivanka, Don Jr., Derek, Barron, and he doesn't have any other daughters.

He probably knows their names as well as you.

I’m not so sure of that. Unlike him, I know Tiffany Trump exists.

Yes but what about Eric?

You mean Derek? Donald’s third-favorite son he forgets about? Yes, Donald Trump is very aware of his third son who he knows is definitely named Derek.

While he's just an adultless child

He wants to ensure that all children have children. His type is couches, dolphins, and little girls.

His type is couches, dolphins, and little girls.

That's unfair of you to say. The first one is confirmed to be a hoax.

But he admitted it. He even went on the "Sectional Healing" podcast. His favorite type of couch to fuck is a chaise btw

Most of us are childless adults because of republican policies.

They're so fucking stupid. If they wanted to keep making the ultra rich richer, they'd give all of us enough money to spend disposable income. But the current policies are coming to the inevitable late stage capitalism conclusion where none of us have enough money to continue propping them up.

It's been decades of short term gains over sustainability, and we're at the end of that pattern now

The Bronze Age belief system makes these guys really fucking weird.

This isn’t even bronze age bruh some primitive societies had women who specialised into certain tasks not have children for various reasons. Or even for paganist (religious) reasons.

I've been saying this for a while now that this anger and resentment over childfree people has become increasingly pervasive and dangerous and it really feels like we are going to be one of the first against the wall.

Even among otherwise reasonable people I know there is a shocking amount of resentment towards people who choose to live their lives for something besides children.

It’s because so many of these people hate their children and resent those kids for being alive. I have heard other parents talk about how much they wasted on kids bringing them up, and how much better they imagine their lives had they not had kids.

They want other people saddled with this same burden and drag everyone down to their misery.

It’s natural as a parent to think about life without kids, especially with how miserable it has become. Kids are seldom allowed to be kids. It’s all structured nonsense and constant trash like 20 games of little kid sports, which they don’t want to play. They want to sit inside and play electronics just like adults.

Parents also spend hundreds of dollars on things like music lessons, and the kid gets bored because Minecraft genuinely is more fun for a kid. Then they get angry and hateful at the kid.

Well what good are you if you aren't making future soldiers? Get out there and sow your wild oats. Or spread your legs. Whatever you have to do, do it for America.

Harris out here telling us we shouldn't throw up our arms when we should be rolling up our sleeves. Vance just wants to roll up our slipcovers.

I haven't really seen that honestly, it's pretty much a non-event. I have a kid, some of my circle don't plan on it. No one really cares.

I've seen childfree people on the internet complaining about people with kids plenty enough, but I always assumed they were a vocal minority.

The only time I've ever seen this topic as an actual point of contention in real life is people who insist on no kids at weddings. Which I do think is kind of a dick move, but also people's preogerative.

I've seen kids at weddings. Hell, I've been a kid at weddings. It was generally a bad experience for everyone.

Bored. Hungry. Thirsty. Where's the toilet? I wanna play over there. Not allowed to touch this and that. Don't run around. Don't yell. Stop doing rude things. Don't cry. Barf. Sleepy. Who gave them alcohol? I wanna go home! Stop crying. Etc and so on.

Kids and weddings rarely mix well, often making it a burdensome experience for everyone, mostly for the kids.

This is also why I hate weddings as an adult. They're boring. Maybe I'd feel differently if it was my own wedding or if I was really emotionally invested in the couple or something.

Weddings are different if you're a close friend of the betrothed. Then it's a party with all your friends and a bunch of people you tangentially know.

Being a distant friend or cousin at those events sucks.

Or maybe the wedding they want to make wouldn't be appropriate for kids?

A lot of times this is it. Adults want to get shitfaced, play songs with cuss words, and have fun.

You can’t do that with your kids in tow and with other people’s kids around.

Print photos of different couches and mail them to any or all of these locations:

https://www.vance.senate.gov/office-locations/

Don’t forget to add little love notes. e.g., “Thinking of you 💋”

Okay I’m super out of the loop, where did the couchfucker thing come from?

There was a Twitter post claiming he wrote in his book that he fucked couch cushions as a younger lad. It is (as far as we know) not true, however it caught like wildfire and is now a certified dank meme

That is pretty funny, actually. It's such an old-timey insult. He is basically calling them spinsters. I can't imagine this will catch on.

The wealthy want more people in the world so that they can pay employees less. More people, more competition for jobs. Also, more consumption, more sales.

Infinite growth requires an increase in one of two things - workers in the pool, or wages.

Corporate sees one option.

Hell yeah JD!!! That's my boy! Keep giving us this motivational locker room talk, you're the gift that keeps on giving! Keep cooking (yourself) King. You're kinda mainlining the LGBTQ stuff to the point that it's stale, maybe alienate some minorities next go round, that'd be SICK

With all his focus of who does and doesn’t have kids, I feel like there’s a good “precious bodily fluids” joke to be made here.

🎶 every sperm is sacred, every sperm is good. Every sperm is needed, in your neighborhood. 🎶

You know what else is childless? All the couches he's been humping. What a hypocrite. Sheesh.

I dunno, I've seen some chairs and loveseats that look too much like their couches to be a coincidence. We might need to get Maury involved here.

I'm a childless adult. I'm such a terrible person. I worship the devil and I kill people. What are you gonna do about it? My cats are literally tiny Satans.

Actually, they fucking rock. Best kitties in the world.

Fellow childless adult here. Partner and I want kids, but we can't bear to bring a person into this world where the climate is fucked, reaganomics has ruined the middle class, and restrictive reproductive healthcare laws make pregnancy a huge risk.

JD Vance wants to bitch about childless adults, but he and his ilk are causing us to abstain from having kids.

This couch fucker needs to resign.

No no, he needs to stay in. He needs to keep saying this shit and driving everyone away from voting Trump. Since JD Vance is a narcissistic, power hungry couch fucker, he won't leave Trump's campaign willingly which is exactly what we need.

It's insane to me that this is where the line is drawn. Found guilty of rape, no big deal. Calls people childless cat owners, people go crazy.

That same attitude got trump elected in 2016

It's really not the same attitude. JD Vance is a terrible pick, literally anyone else who would replace him would do better

I'd place the blame on the Democrats pushing such an unlikable candidate, Hillary Clinton, that they couldn't move enough people to vote to get past the electoral college bias. There's also the fact that most people thought "How bad could Trump be. He looks honest and confident in what he says" and a lot of positive media around that time being about Trump.

This time, we have Kamala Harris who's actually really good at campaigning and getting support. The move the Democrats pulled managed to derail the GOP Propaganda machines (like Faux News) and put the positive focus on Harris instead of Trump.

Regardless of what is happening in the Republican side, we still need to vote since this could be our last chance to vote.

It wasn't that she was unlikable. It was all the bot farms and nobody would have ever thought Dementia Don the racist rapist with 34 felonies could possibly win, so too many voters stayed home. That will not happen this time.

VOTE!!! Volunteer to give rides to those that couldn't vote without the help.

Vance can go fuck himself. And a couch. And a dolphin. And whatever else he gets off on. What a douchbag.

This guy is hilarious! He's gonna drop a solid gaffe bomb soon enough and Drumph won't know what to do.

I'm trying to imagine what would even register as a gaffe at this point, discernable from the cosmic background dumpster-fire of Trump's campaign

He may get dropped, I think.

We're in move, counter-move territory after Biden dropped out and everything coalesced behind Harris.

I don't know, if Trump drops him, that looks a lot worse for Trump than it did Biden dropping out for Harris. There haven't been months and months and months of people on both sides saying Biden is unfit for another term.

You may be right. Where I am is this:

  • Trump NEEDS to win (for his own purposes)

  • Vance has a lot of connections to Project 2025

  • Project 2025 may doom Trump's run

If the race starts to separate, Trump is not loyal. He just requires it of others. And he's been rather successful with persuading others to view his treatment as unfair.

Edit: formatting

Why do Republicans hate children so much? I have kids and fail to understand why the party supporters want children born unwanted. Do they secretly relish the idea that these unwanted kids will grow up in misery? Neglected, abused, worse? WTAF?

Unironically, they absolutely do. Children are the punishment for having sex out of wedlock, and not only must the woman suffer for having this child, but the child must suffer because they're the product of sin.

I knew a number of people at my old church who ABSOLUTELY thought this way.

I had a conversation about abortion with a friend once where, after a lot of effort by my to keep the conversation on topic, she finally admitted that having a child if the punishment you deserve for getting pregnant.

In this case I think it’s not even anything to do with the contempt for children. It’s just yet another way to mark people you don’t like as outsiders and others. Republicans absolutely love to demonize the media any way they can.

Military recruiting is down and their pipelines are weak as our knowledge and information economy have proliferated and thrived. So: do whatever is needed to make childhood so shitty being raised from a negligent and abusive household, and flyover country future economic prospects so bleak as an adult that an Army 11X MOS looks like a golden ticket out.

The military doesn’t want well-adjusted, emotionally stable and regulated to enlist for combat arms. Their need for warfighters outweighs the ethics of manipulating a society’s citizens to worship war.

And there’s only so many officers (whom they actually do want to be emotionally stable, educated, and rational) that they need.

Children have needs. Republicans don't do well with people that have needs.

Living in sin.... No attachments, just these journalists and their sexy spouses - their Lazy Boys and their Ashleys.

“Why do these sexy couches keep seducing me??” - Jumbo Douche Vance

And since it's republicans, we haven't even acknowledged that these are all underaged couches, still well within their warranties with a lot of life and promise ahead of them... That is until old "Just Do (it with couches) Vance shows up...

it's not a random thing to demonize people for the simple choice to not have kids. corporate greedlords have been shitting their pants over the declining birthrate because less kids means less money for them. no matter who's paying to raise a kid--parents or taxpayers--that money isn't spent on kids that don't exist, and every industry suffers for it: food, medical, gas, clothing--everything

so if you already felt bad about not having kids, the goal is to make you hate yourself even more, and make having kids an even higher priority in your life. it seems like it should be about more than money, but for republicans it's absolutely not.

corporate greedlords have been shitting their pants over the declining birthrate

Imma need a source on that one. But yeah, a shrinking tax base and aging population is bad mojo.

i don't know about "scientific" studies about coporate panic, but there's plenty of ink spilt

https://convergencemag.com/articles/whos-afraid-of-the-lower-birth-rate/

But with stable or falling populations, economic stagnation, such as that which afflicted Japan for a decade, limits opportunities to profit. And establishment think tanks worry about how to fund Social Security without taxing the rich.

LOL

https://medium.com/@julian.frazier.phd/boomers-panic-as-birth-rates-continue-to-decline-2f2bd1fabcae

https://www.investmentmonitor.ai/features/population-panic-low-birth-rates-fdi/

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/25/investing/premarket-stocks-trading/index.html

https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/jun/30/the-baby-bust-how-britains-falling-birthrate-is-creating-alarm-in-the-economy

https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2024/05/21/can-the-rich-world-escape-its-baby-crisis

they use words like crisis, panic, catastrophe, etc. -- it's all to scare people into thinking the world is going to implode unless everyone starts furiously having babies. the world isn't going to implode from fewer babies. profits will go down. that's it.

edit: also-- "shrinking tax base"--fuck that. tax the fucking rich

Every time a new story about Vance comes out, I become more and more certain that Trump regrets choosing him.

What’s the tactic here to win voters? Alienate them? Are the republicans trying to neg women into voting for them?

I don’t think lack of self esteem is going to win them any votes, how will Republicans raising taxes on the poor and giving corporations tax cuts help the childless cat ladies have babies?

No tactic, he's just an asshole. Just because Trump was stupid enough to pick him doesn't mean that Vance has a single clue about what he's fucking doing.

He's really proud that he found a woman who will let him raw dog

Obsession with childless adults? Hmm, I think I know which major Republican donor recommended him to Trump...

This really smacks of "bloodlines."

All this thread gave me is the question:

What the fuck did I miss that JD Vance is now meme'd as a couch fucker?

Vance made a statement clearly saying he has never had sexual relations with a couch ‘to completion’.

This qualifier means, to me, that he did indeed do the thing.

I couldn't believe my ears when I heard it. That statement was so funny.

I had to read it like four times, I focus (a bit too much) on rhetoric when someone speaks because I’m used to qualifiers like this twisting what they say, so I’m going to just keep pointing it out.

I interpret this as "he wants even more bad press, this time from pissed-off journalists".

Vance faced an onslaught of bad press, as many commentators—including Harris’ step-daughter, Taylor Swift fans, Democratic officials, actor Jennifer Aniston, and several conservative women pundits—decried his comment.

My reading comprehension must be pretty bad because for a second it sounded like Taylor Swift was Kamala Harris' step daughter.

Even if that's true, being able to navigate the media environment is a job requirement for politicians.

He sucks so bad at this.

The only people against circular reasoning are those it doesn't work for.

If that's actually true, maybe don't attack the people who will be reporting on what you say?

I'm not an expert in PR training, but this seems like it would be pretty early in the lessons.