As the article states, the inclusion of the nudes in the newsletter allows a very clear path for criminal charges in D.C. and Georgia under their respective revenge porn legislation. She should receive charges for both.
In any sane world, a member of congress would be immediately expelled for presenting literal nudes, without permission and in bad faith, of a sitting POTUS' family member, who is not, nor has ever been a member of the administration or government employee.
Congratulations to Vladimir Putin and the CCP, as your work to dismantle the U.S. through propaganda and mainstreaming batshit tinfoil-hat insanity through promoting these ridiculous, unserious elected officials like Greene, Paul, Jordan, Comer, Gaetz, Santos, et al, has been incredibly effective.
I blame Fox "News" more than any foreign government.
Fox News is a mouthpiece for foreign government, so…. Same thing.
Rupert Murdoch is Australian
Oi nah get fucked mate, you guys took him in yonks ago.
But to be fair i believe he isnt considered 'Australian' or 'American' but more of a 'cunt to all humankind'.
Yeah nah your right, sorry we let him slip away.
Billionaires aren't really citizens of any country. They're kind of small nations unto themselves.
If only we had a border wall to protect us from these foreign ne'er-do-wells!
You would think the largest most ever would protect us but noooor
We didn't go far enough. Only supplied non lethal aid the roos and the ostriches after the wild camel cull. The drop bears were trained but I fear we'll pay when they turn against us all.
In any sane world, a member of congress would be immediately expelled for presenting literal nudes, without permission and in bad faith, of a sitting POTUS' family member, who is not, nor has ever been a member of the administration or government employee. of anyone.
FTFY
Exactly. Revenge porn is revenge porn. Put the criminal in jail.
Don’t forget Cruz. Acts stupid but is probably the most nefarious of the bunch.
How is Gaetz not in prison for raping and sex trafficking children.
See here's how politics work: Make an accusation. Slander your opponent. Bring forward witnesses. Drop or lose your case when no evidence is found.
Having the prosecution recommend not pressing charges isn't exactly the same thing as the crime literally not happening. That's a bit of an assumption.
If I can make at least 3 assumptions, based on what you've said here, do you think OJ was a murderer?
Yes. Much better that we assume guilt until proven innocent.
Or, alternatively, his rich and powerful father used his connections to pressure anyone who could testify to rethink the consequences of their actions. Because rape is okay if you're rich and white.
Wait. When did we start talking about Hunter Biden?
Wait was he charged with bringing a minor across state lines to have sex with them, or was it tax evasion?
There's been plenty of evidence that Hunter is creep with minors, just like his daddy creepy Joe. According to this sub, you have to prove innocence, so where is the proof that Hunter didn't?
Your link does not support your claim that it never happened. It does not even address the question of whether or not it happened, the quality of the evidence available, or the reasons why charges were not recommended. You are clearly reading into this article. Why? Bet you don't even know.
According to the article the supposed witnesses were garbage. Even the prosecution thought their testimony wouldn't hold up in court.
Somehow I have to prove a negative, to prove innocence, and yet somehow the parent commenter can make unfounded accusations without proof and be considered legit, worthy of updoinks? You people are in a delusional echo chamber. What a joke of a forum this is.
Wouldn't it be neat if she faced consequences for her actions, instead of the US working overtime to make sure potheads do as much time as they possibly can before they're finally forced to admit they lied about pot
Unfortunately if Matt Gaetz, who actually trafficked and had sex with a minor, is anything to go by, this will hardly shift the needle.
Yeah one of them examples where age is JUST a number and jail is JUST a place... sadly, our "leaders" don't have to follow the same laws.
They don't even have to lead in most cases.
There's a reason we used to tar and feather politicians. Bring it back.
He's my Congressman so I've had my eye on this, praying for the hammer to drop.
Here are the facts:
They couldn't summon up enough evidence and no one involved would testify. The girl involved now has an Only Fans page, so even if she offered, the prosecution felt that would hurt her credibility. So it's dropped.
The girl involved now has an Only Fans page, so even if she offered, the prosecution felt that would hurt her credibility
It's so fucked up that our culture still thinks like this
The faster this cunt disappears the better everyone will be.
She spreads nothing but hate, I agree the quicker she is out the better we are and we can move forward.
Not always hate! Very kind of her to be Biden's spokesperson for his campaign!
But this is what her constituents want... Like yeah they are 100% in the wrong but holy shit, they literally voted for this garbage.
I fully agree with you but look up what happened in that district when she was first elected. Her dem opponent was threatened and assaulted and literally run out of town. Stack on that GA being a VERY gerrymandered state and it’s a no lose for her. She’s not from that district and if fact started in another district before they saw how ripe Ranger and Rome GA were for fear tactics and gop shenanigans. My parents live in Ranger and I fucking HATE it there and it’s very possible that the fetal-alcohol fucks nuts that populate that place would elect her any how but don’t discount the tactics used and how unqualified she is.
you but look up what happened in that district when she was first elected. Her dem opponent was threatened and assaulted and literally run out of town
What happened in her first election is abhorrent but are we going to discount she had a 2nd election she also won very handily it was 66% to 34%?
Stack on that GA being a VERY gerrymandered state and it’s a no lose for her.
I disagree with this. I'm not disputing GA is a gerrymandered state but she still had to compete in a primary election in 22. She got 69% of the vote out of all other Republicans trying for the 14th district of Georgia. There were 5 other options for a Republican house rep in district 14. They actively chose MTG and this could show us the disengagement of voters lead to these very polarizing figures taking hold and the important of participating at all steps of the election process instead of only focusing on the one big day. Life is stressful and likely full of other important things but we have to keep in mind everything we interact with is political. Its an exhausting mindset but everything we touch, do, eat, see, etc is influenced by politics, many people might not think it that way but it is. There is a reason why the topic of coal power if very contentious. We aren't using coal for the sake of being evil, we are using it because its a fucking mess. There are clearly the corporate angles but we also have to think at the constituent levels. Coal mining jobs are super high paying jobs with very minimal education requirements, something you can do right out of high school maybe even without any schooling, so those jobs lead to economic movement in those regions and if a mine closes it could possibly kill a whole town's economic backing. So that is why you have the whole "putting people back into the mines" talk on the republican end and also why Democrat Senator Manchin is very conservative even for a democrat because that is what his voters want even though he does hold up many things when dems had some form of majority rule in senate. I'm not here saying keep coal mining but this is more a point of seeing why people would vote for someone like Manchin. In my view coal is dying a slow painful death and the deregulation people are following is mostly keeping that industry on life support at best since even from a economic point of view coal is losing out to other forms of power generation like natural gas but I can easily say this since my livelihood isn't massively affected by the coal industry and the runoff effects it may have in my area
I don’t disagree but I think this oversimplifies the war on people in souther states through scare tactics and manipulation. These people didn’t vote in a vacuum. They have been radicalizing rural communities for decades for what seems like these very moments we are witnessing. Coal is just another smoke and mirrors tactic to grift and to continue to disenfranchise and promote anti- intellectualism in the American south. I seem to remember in right before covid that there were at least 3 major solar outlets offering free training and better wages to miners. They were ceremoniously met with zero interest cause “solar is woke” or some garbage like that. That level of delusion is the product of decades of grooming. Same with MTGs district, Bobart, etc.
That level of delusion is the product of decades of grooming
I mean its the fact that change is scary. Many of these peoples great great grandfathers were miners. It has been the livelihood of these communities for more than a century now. So while I'm 100% for retraining and the such its hard to convince people who see change as a negative. Stick with what you know is rather normal.
Normal and completely unsustainable. Everything, EVERYTHING changes. If you don’t change with it you are actively holding back human progress for the sake of being afraid of the new. Not to mention that that sentiment is complete fed into and amplified by the gop.
She ran unopposed after her opponent quit due to threats.
For her first election, yes. She is a house representative though and her term is 2 years. So that would mean in the year of 2022, she was reelected and to my memory Marcus Flowers didn't drop out. Enlighten me if I am wrong but she won by a hefty lead in 22, 66% to 34%. Like I can accept people weren't sure about her on the first election in the same way I can sort of accept Trump voters the first time (I still wouldn't have voted for that idiot but I can see why people would have) after her term though, its really hard to accept that 66% of people in her county said "This is all good". There were primaries for her as well and she got 69% of the Republican vote. So yes her constituents want this garbage.
Again, I think this is looking at this election outside the context of what’s been happening in the south for decades. People voted for her. People stay with their abusers. They need help.
They may need help but the first step to improvement is admitting there is problem by the their constituents. Republicans are choosing this culture war nonsense and the constituents are eating it up. There is no simple answer to showing them the proverbial light and us trying to force a solution will only make them retreat further into these radicalized figures.
Nah. I don’t go for this. I’m not saying we force them but coddling and playing into to “poor me” bs is again, tactics, either parroted by voters or truly believed. If you can participate in a culture war, you can participate in a class war as well.
I do agree that republicans are going culture war to prevent thing like a class war but blaming the base, at this point, is like blaming a person that drives a car for climate change and not people like DuPont or Delta…
is like blaming a person that drives a car for climate change and not people like DuPont or Delta…
Actually I do blame consumers because I feel the argument that we should only care about the output of companies sort of diminishes the impact we as consumer have in the system. Its acting like the system is doing ____ for the sake of evil. Which I find oversimplifies the problem. Yes, companies have unparalleled power to lobby the government and that is a problem but everytime I see the comment that goes
100 companies are responsible for 90% of pollution emissions
Gives off a major vibe that your actions mean nothing since these large entities are at fault for the world's woes. While ignoring most of these companies are energy/gas corporations. We as consumers absolutely impact the profit and spread of pollution by pointless consumerism. Like did you really need to do 2 day shipping for a single item off Amazon? I'm not here to say be perfect and you have no right to complain since yeah many of these companies do underhanded tactics to gain an upper hand and will shove down more environmentally "saving" competitors if they aren't invested into these areas. Its just we need to keep in mind that our consumption also fuels this beast and we all have a part to play in this. Exporting most of your blame to corporations without also understanding your own impact on the system is not a good thing. This may sound like I'm simping for corporations but no, many corporations are seeking infinite growth in a finite world and it is slowly becoming a rat race many of us aren't going to win in.
Nah. I don’t go for this. I’m not saying we force them but coddling and playing into to “poor me” bs is again, tactics, either parroted by voters or truly believed. If you can participate in a culture war, you can participate in a class war as well.
And I'm encouraging younger voters to play a role in the nation's election system and all part of it. This goes for Democrats and Republicans. We need to unify and actually participate in this system or we are going to be stuck with crazies and these god damn fossils running this country. I feel your arguments are far more in the camp of "poor me", while I'm pointing out this is the system we have and we need to push for reform on the inside. I know people say its not quick enough or it won't do any good but this apathy bullshit is only making this country worse. War is not pretty, it is not something we should clamor for. We are sitting on our hands and saying we have done everything we can, nearly 33% of people didn't even vote in the 2020 election (who were eligible). Nearly 50% on the midterms and there was progress these last 2 election cycles and that is good there was an improvement but we need to strive for more. We need people participating in the primaries. I get it there is a ton of fucking bullshit around many states trying to make voting harder and this lead many people to throw their hands up in the air and shout "The system is rig, there is no reason to participate". We should be doing the opposite we should get angry, vote even more because the apathy approach will only lead to more restrictions on voting, we have to fight like hell for this to work or those who want to make the working class into glorified serfs will win.
Yeah your are talking about giving off vibes (which apparently gives you plenty of license to “see” what you want in my reply) and we need “unity” (please layout how we can move towards this unity you speak of ¯_(ツ)_/¯ ). Those are not actionable items and it leads to nothing. I was certainly not saying consumers are not to blame but they are the ONLY ones that get the blame and that is systemic. All the abstractions are exactly what fascists want us to focus on. If we could see the forest for the trees we’d know we are the powerful lobby (the people) and we own production etc., but we are conditioned to believe this is “un-American” et al. You can cherry pick anything but when a monsters share of your response is hyperbole, it rings disingenuous and troll-y.
Additionally: the convo you and I are having is a prime example. We are arguing the culture war while losing the class war just by engaging in the ephemera and minutiae of these points. Divided. I dare say you and I wouldn’t be divided if we were engaged in actions not debating in our safe little echo chambers.
Those are not actionable items and it leads to nothing. I was certainly not saying consumers are not to blame but they are the ONLY ones that get the blame and that is systemic.
My dude, I said we actually engage in our actual electoral system as you say the most powerful lobby (the people). The people are slacking, there is apathy nearly 80% of people don't participate in the US mid term primaries. The people only give a fucking shit about the nation's talking head (Executive branch), who is powerful but we lay about and not give a single shit about the legislative branch, the people who actually get most of the work done. They are the ones who confirm supreme court justices, the ones who make the laws, the ones who can handle impeachments. I don't care about your political views, just fucking participate that is literally what we Americans need to do. So many of us don't know whats actually going on. They just listen to their fucking talking heads about the most eye catching headlines while ignoring some of the more important ones like our privacy basically being sold off and being rated out by the devices we use.
I dare say you and I wouldn’t be divided if we were engaged in actions not debating in our safe little echo chambers.
Blind action is wasted action and possibly detrimental to our cause.
I’m saying the reason they are like that is because they have been fucking groomed to be that way! They have been propagandized. “Hoodwinked. Bamboozled..” I don’t know how else to say it! People don’t vote because they are convinced it doesn’t matter. How did they decide that? How did they form that opinion??? You are just not seeing my point.
Love you! Stay frosty! I’m out!
I fully agree with you but look up what happened in that district when she was first elected. Her dem opponent was threatened and assaulted and literally run out of town. Stack on that GA being a VERY gerrymandered state and it’s a no lose for her. She’s not from that district and if fact started in another district before they saw how ripe Ranger and Rome GA were for fear tactics and gop shenanigans. My parents live in Ranger and I fucking HATE it there and it’s very possible that the fetal-alcohol fucks nuts that populate that place would elect her any how but don’t discount the tactics used and how unqualified she is.
I hate her face Jesus Christ. I know that’s not an intelligent thing to say but…
I know. Im the same. I think seeing her face is associated with a lot of hateful things she’s said and done and perpetuates.
She looks like a horse with sunburn.
An affront to horses, good sir!
This is a lovely insult that, with your permission, I'm stealing! 🤣
I respect the boldness of cancelling your self-upvote.
That should be a thing. That should be a thing, right?
It's not unintelligent. People are extremely adept at reading facial expressions and microexpressions. Years of evolution / survival instinct development have made us extremely skillful at knowing a lot about a person based on their face / eyes. Our lives depended on it, you see.
Your survival instincts (which are smart) are telling you she's an untrustworthy, toxic individual that you probably shouldn't keep around in your community, and in this case they're right. Everything else she says and does backs up your instincts too, so this isn't just a one-off thing.
It’s extremely bad and dangerous that so many people believe this.
You can’t tell from the way someone looks whether they are trustworthy or not or whether they are telling a lie or not.
I have little doubt that MAGA republichudism was wholely responsible for the KKKonvoy rallies that cost the Canadian economy literally billions of dollars in a matter of days with their illegal blockades.
I'd be remiss if I didn't quote one of my favorite saved comments from that-content-aggregator-which-shall-not-be-named...
Dude grow up...
We did it with smallpox
We did it with polio
We did it with measles
I've got an "almost" centenarian in the family. Dude grew up watching German zeppelins on the front line of invasion, his folks were both mostly bald from the Spanish flu. When he immigrated to Canada (on a boat) he had to get another round of vaccinations even though he had the full onslaught in the army while babysitting German POWs as they removed landmines from the beaches of his home country. Ask anyone 75+ how many of their childhood friends died from what are now preventable diseases.
If you think the shit were taking now is untested, what the hell do you think they were handing out back in the 20s and 50s.......
Have you ever traveled abroad? Like not to London, or Tokyo or somewhere nice.... But to somewhere shitty like Bangladesh, Nigeria, or Guinea? Do you have any idea how many people die in these countries every year from preventable diseases? You do know that even as a Canadian you legit cant board an aircraft in or out of these places without at the VERY least a yellow fever card right? Before vaccines it was pretty common for a boat to have to sit for a few weeks in quarantine at the destination before people were allowed to disembark... This is not new, this is not unique, this is not something to fuck around with.
Sit down, shut up, and take your medicine you spoiled little shit.
Fun fact!
The etymology of "quarantine" literally refers to the practice of making a ship sit at berth for 40 days before anyone could disembark. "Quarantina" means 40 days in Italian....
Since you brought up ship quarantine, I think we should start doing that with air travel. It's the number one long-range transmitter of pandemics. It's the enabler of global pandemics.
Quarantine-free air travel should perhaps be treated as a privilege of living in a civilization with advanced medicine and monitoring, a privilege that could be revoked mid-flight for all flights in any given region, like the entirety of Europe.
It's amazing how she, Boebert, and Gaetz are three of the biggest idiots probably ever to hold office in the House, yet they've been popular by spewing hate. That tells us what drives their base.
It reminds me of that nut from Africa they showed on the daily show a long time ago, where the guy was telling his tribe what gay people do. "And dey eat da poopoo. Dey eat it like ice cream!"
And while nothing will most likely happen to her for this if it is true, any of us caught doing such things would already be buried under the jail.
She is fucked. If she sent nudes of Hunter Biden to her constituents then the DOJ will absolutely come after her for that. Insane doesn’t come close to describing what may have happened here.
I dunno, she's done a lot of stuff already that would warrant charges but nothing ever comes of it. Of course I'm hoping it sticks this time, but you know how the system works.
Two tiers of justice! /s
If only people crying that about Trump knew how right they were, and how backwards they have it.
Yeah like they went after Gaetz for raping and trafficking a minor.
She's absolutely not fucked. She's a republican. They don't get in trouble for doing shit.
For someone that's not familiar with US politics. Who is Marjorie Taylor Greene and who is Hunter Biden? Why do they matter?
Hunter Biden is President Biden’s son. To be clear, he doesn’t work for the gooberment.
Greene is a congresswoman, House of Representatives from the state of Georgia. She’s a complete right wing nut. And makes howler monkeys look civilized
Honestly you're not exaggerating. If I was asked to pick between attempting to have a civil conversation with Greene or a howler monkey I think I'd have a better chance of success with the latter.
Now that is just rude
to howler monkeys
maybe.
I'll apologize when they shut up.
At least howler monkeys know when to shut up
They don't. Shut up, that is.
That's a right-wing nut, not a right wing-nut.
Marjorie Taylor Green, sometimes called MTG, is a representation and a result of the dumbing down of united state politics. She's a member of the far right party in this country and pushes conspiracies, racism, bigotry and hatred. She's possibly the least intelligent person to ever hold federal office in this country.
Hunter Biden is the son of the current US president. He holds no office and has nothing to do with politics, but because he's the president's son, the far right politicians spend a large amount of time trying to find anything they can to make him look bad. He's had problems with drugs and the law in the past so there's a decent amount there for them to attack.
Well he did some business dealings in Ukraine with oil companies before the war. That's pretty much it.
What's funny is he didn't even have any real operational authority. It was a total rich-kid-nepotism "show up a couple times a quarter" gig. The corruption shit is true, it's just boring regular rich people corruption.
Dudes a fuckup, but like, yeah. Families have fuckups. My sister is a fuckup. Republicans are pushing on this just because it sucks to have your fuckup sister or kid have their shit put out there for people to see.
They're just assholes.
Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter both had (have?) fuckup brothers. Imagine if the Republicans had spent this much time probing into their lives just as pointlessly?
Right, it's just regular nepo baby shit. That's what kills me.
None of the business stuff in Ukraine is illegal. He’s not a government official, and his dad being president has no bearing on what he can legally take for a job.
The only reason republicans care is because of trump’s corruption (along with most the rest of his family.) that has the critical distinction of being an actual employee of the federal government
Exactly! They're just manufacturing a narrative by suggesting that this guy is nefarious and doing shady stuff with his drug addiction and nude pics on his laptop that was stolen by a private company.
Speaking of which, how in the hell did the people who stole his laptop not get charged with theft and identity theft?
Speaking of which, how in the hell did the people who stole his laptop not get charged with theft and identity theft?
https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/10/15/hunter-biden-laptop-giuliani/
basically they dropped off and then the repair shop gave copies to the FBI (not sure why,) and Gulliani (and that's definitely illegal.)
In any case, there's multiple problems here. The laptop was not last in Biden's possession. It's clear the repair shop opened and accessed data on the drive. Given that... it's not useful as evidence of anything, even if there was a complete manifesto detailing plans for world domination. (there's not. there's one email and dick pics)
It's funny, I actually was awarded on Reddit for posting some stuff about the Hunter Biden laptop that won me an argentinium award. I believe it had to do with the fact that an invoice was generated many months after Hunter Biden dropped off the laptop. I still wonder if the laptop was stolen, or how the hell it ended up in the possession of the repair shop and they never returned it to him.
I used to work in computer repair, and that kind of behavior would be illegal and highly unethical. Unless the repair shop had found evidence of something like CP or other illegal activity (although drug use here would count in that regard), they would try to maintain the integrity of the client's data and try their best to return their hardware back to the owner.
A whole situation is really odd.
Yup. If they found things illegal, they’d have to turn it over.
But 1) it was for water damage, why are they going through his emails? It’s unlikely that would even be relevant.
turning it over to the cops is reasonable- fbi might be a bit of a stretch, but sure. Turning over gulianni? That is bad faith. He’s not a criminal lawyer, wasn’t representing hunter, isn’t a law enforcement officer of any stripe. That’s receipt of stolen goods there.
there’s absolutely no reason to believe those emails or any other material are legitimate. Or, you know, even the same laptop. (It probably is. It’s more convincing that way, slipping the few ‘criminal’ bits on and leaving it to be found.)
It all goes to show: guard your data.
I would argue George Santos is a solid contender... Otherwise... Spot on. She's a garbage human being, and, in my opinion, legitimately evil.
She's a member of the far right party
She actually got kicked out of the Freedom Caucus.
Both statements are true.
For being too far right.
I envy you, you're better off.
They don't
I only know her name from a JPEGMAFIA song. Pretty sure Hunter is the son of the president of the United States.
Incredibly stupid question, but, if she was charged and convicted of this, wouldn’t she have to register as a sex offender? That would be rather amusing.
At the federal level, 18 USC 1470 covers it. Penalty is fines and/or 10 years in prison at max.
Not sure what statutes apply in the District of Columbia, though.
Hopefully. I would love to see her go to jail.
Should I not be surprised if she doesn't though?
No, you should be surprised if she does. It would break the pattern of more money = less consequence
in a perfect world, it would be surprising if she didn't go to prison. but this is not a perfect world.
She DEFINITELY did this, but she MAY have gotten caught doing it.
How long do you think before she turns around and calls LGBTQ+ people or drag queens "groomers" again?
in 3,2,1...
I think the article below it is funnier
“Joe Biden had the largest public investment in social infrastructure and environmental programs, that is actually finishing what FDR started, that LBJ expanded on, and Joe Biden is attempting to complete,” Marjorie Taylor Greene said at the conservative Turning Point Action conference over the weekend.
Except … she meant it all as an insult?
I've heard people on the left saying they wish Biden was what the GOP say he is.
Two jewish men are sitting on a bench in Israel reading newspapers. One of the men, reading a newspaper in Hebrew, notices the other man is reading a newspaper in Arabic.
"My friend," he exclaims. "How can you read that trash! Don't you know its all lies?"
The other man puts down his paper and replies, "I used to read your newspaper and I'd get depressed. Its all bad news. Now I read this paper and it makes me happy. We run all the banks, we run Hollywood, soon we will take over the world!"
Old joke
An Australian (I think) news network took just that clip out of context. Biden's Twitter team reposted it with an "I approve this message." It's great!
GQP tactics.
sending porn to children to own the libs
USA have really no concept of non-sexual nudity?
[EDIT] - seems less of nudes and more of full on pornographic pictures, my bad.
I mean... Not really. But tbh, if anyone feels like "all nudity is bad" in America, it's the GOP. So, there is significant irony in a party member potentially participating in dissemination - knowing the number of times any involvement in the past has been criticized on these very grounds.
Remember when Bill O’Reilly would monologue about “disgusting debauchery of Spring Break” over videos of sexy young women playing volleyball in bikinis.
Not a fan of republicans but it seems rather obvious that it was not her intent to send sexual content to minors. But yes there is an irony that republicans would be the last to recognise that there is non-sexual nudity, so you have a point.
Despite your edit, from what I can tell of being born and raised in the USA, there isn't really a concept of non-sexual nudity, outside of locker rooms/campsite bathouses, some restrooms, and of course, nudist communities/beaches.
Even just taking a leak somewhere that is somewhat secluded if there are no restrooms can land someone a public urination and maybe an indecent exposure charge.
This is what comes of being largely founded by puritanical moronic zealots. Many of them were the Scientology of their age. Europe was glad to ship them over here.
This would really be more like non-consensual sexual nudity... Potentially sent to minors who might unexpectedly be exposed to it (presumably) without their or their parents' or guardians' consent.
Accidental or not, my understanding is that the reason she was sharing the photos to begin with was because she believed there was something "scandalous", embarrassing, and specifically sexual going on in the photos.
If Hunter were a woman, and likely if Greene were a man too, I feel there would be more significant pressure on Greene to apologize.
I don’t think so. If Hunter was a woman he now would be shamed endlessly, the focus would be on him instead of the perpetrator and there would be several porn sites featuring his photos.
Well, that, too, probably. Not to mention all comments like "Why would a woman with grown and married daughter act that way?!!?!"
So Republican men are obsessed with penises, and apparently Republican women are as well.
Democrats should be turning the GOP into a laughing stock with this situation. Making some innuendo jokes about "like father like son" to imply that Joe is hung like a horse, or make some jokes implying MTG isn't getting any at home, so she's lusting after some Democratic sausage. Basically make it very humiliating for Republicans to continue to push this issue.
Unfortunately, as usual, I just don't see them doing it. There might some jokes being made online, but Democrats as a party don't seem to really be attacking the GOP on this with dirty, underhanded attacks.
Effectiveness of this suggestion hinges on Rs having shame and/or decency. It's almost prerequisite to not have such a thing to get voted in.
Republicans only represent 1/3 of the public. If 2/3rds of the public is laughing at them, that's more than good enough.
In the early 20th century the KKK went into sharp decline due to an exposee on their initiation practices, and suddenly the (white) public found them to be a really silly group of frat boys rather than a serious organization to ever consider being recruited to
Turning your opponent into a joke is one of the best methods of attack, especially in cases where the threat is very serious. War propaganda the world over characterizes a nation's enemy as some bumbling idiot. Hogan's Heroes, the TV show, did a great job at portraying the very serious issue of Nazis and made them look like a joke. Democrats are so bad at marketing and going after their opponents though that they'll never do anything.
Lock. Her. Up.
Lock her ass up!!!!
Don't be dragging Minecraft into your sordid squabbles.
Man, this is just like Magic The Gathering
It's crazy to me that anyone can be ok with someone sharing nudes of someone who did not consent. They're both adults at this point but it's literally the president's son, too. I'm not big on appeals to authority but maybe a modicum of respect for a politicians family insofar as not sharing naked photos of them?
And the response so far is that she can get away with it. So it continues to be normalized.
The people who dismiss her as "just a dumbass" - whether she's doing this because she's literally insane or because she's been told to - recognize the lasting damage this type of behavior is inflicting.
What's crazier is that the same people who scream "the liberals are exposing our kids to sexually explicit content" because a book has two gay characters hold hands are perfectly fine with the nude photos being sent to everyone. If a gay kiss lasting two lines is enough to cause screams of rage, why aren't actual nude photos being emailed to everyone resulting in screams?
Of course, the answer is that they don't care as long as the nude photos "own the libs." (So Hunter nudes are okay, but Ivanka nudes would be outrageous.) If showing kids an explicit video of two guys having sex would somehow "own the libs," then the right would suddenly be all for kids seeing that sexually explicit content.
She's trash, along with all other rebuplicans in congress.
Also I wonder if Hunter Biden is regretting not encrypting his laptop hardrive and/or using veracrypt/cryptomator (assuming he now knows it's a thing).
I can't help but wonder who he was sending videos of himself smoking crack to? Why would a grown man even take a video of themself doing something illegal? I don't care, he's not any part of the Biden administration, its just bafflingly stupid.
She should become a sex offender for this. Any normal person would get sentenced to prison if they did this, yet somehow i don't think she'll get in any real trouble for this.
What the fuck can we do about this? I'm so sick of seeing powerful people get away with all types of crimes every single day while there are regular people serving 30 year sentences for getting caught with some weed.
We are past the point where we should be revolting. I don't think we should resort to violence, but we should put our collective foot down.
We have all the power. This country's economy would grind to a screeching halt if we stopped showing up for work. We need to make some demands and stop contributing until they are met. Accountability for the powerful should be among those demands. I also say we demand the ability to pay for housing, goof, and health care by working a full time job. If we don't have those bare minimums, then what are we even doing?
Burn the witch.
I saw this posted so many times on reddit. IDGAF. please stop reposting about MTG. my life is better without seeing her face or hearing about her. It also feels in line with claire mccaskill's democratic election strategy - keep showing people the most extreme and they'll turn right back to us centrists. hakeem jefferies also just hammers this point day in and day out. I am glad they are, but i wish there was something more than this, its soooo down there.
There's no such thing as a centrist in the US. Just people too nervous to wear the robe.
Odd way to announce she’s switching parties, but she has always been a bit unpredictable.
Why? Why do we waste time with this kind of trash journalism? Its not relevant, its pure garbage. Stop wasting your time with trash journalism like that. Vote it down, ignore it, it does'nt matter. Please!
This is actually relevant though because what she did makes a complete joke of our government and is a literal crime. There are many irrelevant unimportant posts on here bringing attention to people who don't deserve it but she deserves as much attention as is necessary to put her in jail.
It is not. It is just diversion. You have to be clear, these people have a very strong agenda. You give these irrelevant people attraction with every single mention.
A sitting member of Congress fragrantly broke the law here. It is in the country's interest to know that. Most of the articles about her are trash just designed to keep her in the news, but this isn't one of those.
One! One sitting member! Do you see the problem here? What are the other members doing in the mean time?
If we find out they're also breaking the law, then we should hear about that in the news as well. This time, it's MTG breaking the law so that's what's relevant.
We have investigated ourselves and determined that we did nothing wrong
If this were AOC spreading pictures of Trumps kid everyone’s statements would flip flop lol.
No. AOC doing that would be reprehensible too.
Right? Like what the fuck. I can't imagine ever going, "haha look at Eric's penis. AOC is a legend!" or anything. I like AOC because she doesn't do things like that. And if she did things like that, I would lose respect for her.
That was such a weird and weak "but both sides" attempt because it's only based in a hypothetical situation where they can pretend they know how things will totally turn out.
Edit: oh. Surprise. That koofnoof's history is not surprising at all. Apparently thinks conservative ideas such as hating trans people isn't hateful because "the true hate is from the trans people hating themselves". I've never once yet ever on here or reddit seem a stupid "both sides" come from anyone even remotely left leaning. It's always hateful bigots trying to say everyone is as much of a piece of shit as they are.
Yep. They both-sides this shit because they really, really want it to be true that both sides are equally reprehensible, but it simply isn't so. And as usual, the accusation turns out to be a confession.
Nah, that's gross behavior no matter who is doing it.
Funny how right wingers think everyone just wants to protect their own like they do. No, that's why the two side are NOT the same. We want the rules followed no matter who
They're broken people and they can't fathom that not everybody thinks the same.
Yeah, all the conservatives would want AOC hanging. But Greene, they will praise her. Fucking double standards.
Anthony Weiner went to jail for sending obscene material to a minor. We'll see if the same happens to MTG.
Yeah no if AOC did that I would be losing all respect for her. It's not at all appropriate.
Please provide an example of someone on the left doing something like this, and their base praising them for it
Didn't we play this out earlier with Melania? That she was a model before she married Trump and there are pictures of her in her underwear? And didn't both sides go, "Why are you bringing this up? It is not relevant to this election."
That’s not a good comparison. Melania’s pictures are public, and AFAIK nobody in public office made a big deal out of if. These pictures are private and were presented by a member of congress
Underwear? She was showing her tits in a professional photo shoot.
Whatever. I only remember it wasn't something weird.
You guys are always allergic to context, lol.
All except Tiffany and Baron were an official part of the Trump administration, as advisors to the President, so all except Tiffany and Baron are fair game politically. Eric, Don Jr, Ivanka chose to become active parts of Trump's political endeavors.
It's not who but what, we should be passing judgement on. The act itself is bad no matter who does it.
You're proposing a scenario that wouldn't happen, because AOC isn't a deranged fascist like Greene. But if AOC did what Greene has done here, she would also need to face harsh repercussions beginning with expulsion from office.
What the fuck is wrong with you? It's horrible no matter who does it and it's also AGAINST THE LAW. You know, the thing the Republicans claim to be the party of?
Did she? Because if not then you're just playing a fun imagination game.
The difference is that Dems would never do such a thing, because no decent human would do such a thing.
You’re absolutely right. Obviously it is reprehensible no matter who does it. But if the Left did it, the fascists would be foaming at the mouth about how unacceptable and criminal the act was (which it would be regardless of who did it).
As the article states, the inclusion of the nudes in the newsletter allows a very clear path for criminal charges in D.C. and Georgia under their respective revenge porn legislation. She should receive charges for both.
In any sane world, a member of congress would be immediately expelled for presenting literal nudes, without permission and in bad faith, of a sitting POTUS' family member, who is not, nor has ever been a member of the administration or government employee.
Congratulations to Vladimir Putin and the CCP, as your work to dismantle the U.S. through propaganda and mainstreaming batshit tinfoil-hat insanity through promoting these ridiculous, unserious elected officials like Greene, Paul, Jordan, Comer, Gaetz, Santos, et al, has been incredibly effective.
I blame Fox "News" more than any foreign government.
Fox News is a mouthpiece for foreign government, so…. Same thing.
Rupert Murdoch is Australian
Oi nah get fucked mate, you guys took him in yonks ago.
But to be fair i believe he isnt considered 'Australian' or 'American' but more of a 'cunt to all humankind'.
Yeah nah your right, sorry we let him slip away.
Billionaires aren't really citizens of any country. They're kind of small nations unto themselves.
If only we had a border wall to protect us from these foreign ne'er-do-wells!
You would think the largest most ever would protect us but noooor
We didn't go far enough. Only supplied non lethal aid the roos and the ostriches after the wild camel cull. The drop bears were trained but I fear we'll pay when they turn against us all.
In any sane world, a member of congress would be immediately expelled for presenting literal nudes, without permission and in bad faith,
of a sitting POTUS' family member, who is not, nor has ever been a member of the administration or government employee.of anyone.FTFY
Exactly. Revenge porn is revenge porn. Put the criminal in jail.
Don’t forget Cruz. Acts stupid but is probably the most nefarious of the bunch.
How is Gaetz not in prison for raping and sex trafficking children.
Probably because it never happened.
Here's a link from what you might consider a reliable source: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/23/matt-gaetz-sex-trafficking-probe-prosecutors-recommend-against-charges.html
See here's how politics work: Make an accusation. Slander your opponent. Bring forward witnesses. Drop or lose your case when no evidence is found.
Having the prosecution recommend not pressing charges isn't exactly the same thing as the crime literally not happening. That's a bit of an assumption.
If I can make at least 3 assumptions, based on what you've said here, do you think OJ was a murderer?
Yes. Much better that we assume guilt until proven innocent.
Or, alternatively, his rich and powerful father used his connections to pressure anyone who could testify to rethink the consequences of their actions. Because rape is okay if you're rich and white.
Wait. When did we start talking about Hunter Biden?
Wait was he charged with bringing a minor across state lines to have sex with them, or was it tax evasion?
There's been plenty of evidence that Hunter is creep with minors, just like his daddy creepy Joe. According to this sub, you have to prove innocence, so where is the proof that Hunter didn't?
Politics in the mirror much?
Your link does not support your claim that it never happened. It does not even address the question of whether or not it happened, the quality of the evidence available, or the reasons why charges were not recommended. You are clearly reading into this article. Why? Bet you don't even know.
According to the article the supposed witnesses were garbage. Even the prosecution thought their testimony wouldn't hold up in court.
Somehow I have to prove a negative, to prove innocence, and yet somehow the parent commenter can make unfounded accusations without proof and be considered legit, worthy of updoinks? You people are in a delusional echo chamber. What a joke of a forum this is.
Wouldn't it be neat if she faced consequences for her actions, instead of the US working overtime to make sure potheads do as much time as they possibly can before they're finally forced to admit they lied about pot
Unfortunately if Matt Gaetz, who actually trafficked and had sex with a minor, is anything to go by, this will hardly shift the needle.
Yeah one of them examples where age is JUST a number and jail is JUST a place... sadly, our "leaders" don't have to follow the same laws.
They don't even have to lead in most cases.
There's a reason we used to tar and feather politicians. Bring it back.
He's my Congressman so I've had my eye on this, praying for the hammer to drop.
Here are the facts:
They couldn't summon up enough evidence and no one involved would testify. The girl involved now has an Only Fans page, so even if she offered, the prosecution felt that would hurt her credibility. So it's dropped.
It's so fucked up that our culture still thinks like this
The faster this cunt disappears the better everyone will be.
She spreads nothing but hate, I agree the quicker she is out the better we are and we can move forward.
Not always hate! Very kind of her to be Biden's spokesperson for his campaign!
But this is what her constituents want... Like yeah they are 100% in the wrong but holy shit, they literally voted for this garbage.
I fully agree with you but look up what happened in that district when she was first elected. Her dem opponent was threatened and assaulted and literally run out of town. Stack on that GA being a VERY gerrymandered state and it’s a no lose for her. She’s not from that district and if fact started in another district before they saw how ripe Ranger and Rome GA were for fear tactics and gop shenanigans. My parents live in Ranger and I fucking HATE it there and it’s very possible that the fetal-alcohol fucks nuts that populate that place would elect her any how but don’t discount the tactics used and how unqualified she is.
What happened in her first election is abhorrent but are we going to discount she had a 2nd election she also won very handily it was 66% to 34%?
I disagree with this. I'm not disputing GA is a gerrymandered state but she still had to compete in a primary election in 22. She got 69% of the vote out of all other Republicans trying for the 14th district of Georgia. There were 5 other options for a Republican house rep in district 14. They actively chose MTG and this could show us the disengagement of voters lead to these very polarizing figures taking hold and the important of participating at all steps of the election process instead of only focusing on the one big day. Life is stressful and likely full of other important things but we have to keep in mind everything we interact with is political. Its an exhausting mindset but everything we touch, do, eat, see, etc is influenced by politics, many people might not think it that way but it is. There is a reason why the topic of coal power if very contentious. We aren't using coal for the sake of being evil, we are using it because its a fucking mess. There are clearly the corporate angles but we also have to think at the constituent levels. Coal mining jobs are super high paying jobs with very minimal education requirements, something you can do right out of high school maybe even without any schooling, so those jobs lead to economic movement in those regions and if a mine closes it could possibly kill a whole town's economic backing. So that is why you have the whole "putting people back into the mines" talk on the republican end and also why Democrat Senator Manchin is very conservative even for a democrat because that is what his voters want even though he does hold up many things when dems had some form of majority rule in senate. I'm not here saying keep coal mining but this is more a point of seeing why people would vote for someone like Manchin. In my view coal is dying a slow painful death and the deregulation people are following is mostly keeping that industry on life support at best since even from a economic point of view coal is losing out to other forms of power generation like natural gas but I can easily say this since my livelihood isn't massively affected by the coal industry and the runoff effects it may have in my area
I don’t disagree but I think this oversimplifies the war on people in souther states through scare tactics and manipulation. These people didn’t vote in a vacuum. They have been radicalizing rural communities for decades for what seems like these very moments we are witnessing. Coal is just another smoke and mirrors tactic to grift and to continue to disenfranchise and promote anti- intellectualism in the American south. I seem to remember in right before covid that there were at least 3 major solar outlets offering free training and better wages to miners. They were ceremoniously met with zero interest cause “solar is woke” or some garbage like that. That level of delusion is the product of decades of grooming. Same with MTGs district, Bobart, etc.
I mean its the fact that change is scary. Many of these peoples great great grandfathers were miners. It has been the livelihood of these communities for more than a century now. So while I'm 100% for retraining and the such its hard to convince people who see change as a negative. Stick with what you know is rather normal.
Normal and completely unsustainable. Everything, EVERYTHING changes. If you don’t change with it you are actively holding back human progress for the sake of being afraid of the new. Not to mention that that sentiment is complete fed into and amplified by the gop.
She ran unopposed after her opponent quit due to threats.
For her first election, yes. She is a house representative though and her term is 2 years. So that would mean in the year of 2022, she was reelected and to my memory Marcus Flowers didn't drop out. Enlighten me if I am wrong but she won by a hefty lead in 22, 66% to 34%. Like I can accept people weren't sure about her on the first election in the same way I can sort of accept Trump voters the first time (I still wouldn't have voted for that idiot but I can see why people would have) after her term though, its really hard to accept that 66% of people in her county said "This is all good". There were primaries for her as well and she got 69% of the Republican vote. So yes her constituents want this garbage.
Again, I think this is looking at this election outside the context of what’s been happening in the south for decades. People voted for her. People stay with their abusers. They need help.
They may need help but the first step to improvement is admitting there is problem by the their constituents. Republicans are choosing this culture war nonsense and the constituents are eating it up. There is no simple answer to showing them the proverbial light and us trying to force a solution will only make them retreat further into these radicalized figures.
Nah. I don’t go for this. I’m not saying we force them but coddling and playing into to “poor me” bs is again, tactics, either parroted by voters or truly believed. If you can participate in a culture war, you can participate in a class war as well.
I do agree that republicans are going culture war to prevent thing like a class war but blaming the base, at this point, is like blaming a person that drives a car for climate change and not people like DuPont or Delta…
Actually I do blame consumers because I feel the argument that we should only care about the output of companies sort of diminishes the impact we as consumer have in the system. Its acting like the system is doing ____ for the sake of evil. Which I find oversimplifies the problem. Yes, companies have unparalleled power to lobby the government and that is a problem but everytime I see the comment that goes
Gives off a major vibe that your actions mean nothing since these large entities are at fault for the world's woes. While ignoring most of these companies are energy/gas corporations. We as consumers absolutely impact the profit and spread of pollution by pointless consumerism. Like did you really need to do 2 day shipping for a single item off Amazon? I'm not here to say be perfect and you have no right to complain since yeah many of these companies do underhanded tactics to gain an upper hand and will shove down more environmentally "saving" competitors if they aren't invested into these areas. Its just we need to keep in mind that our consumption also fuels this beast and we all have a part to play in this. Exporting most of your blame to corporations without also understanding your own impact on the system is not a good thing. This may sound like I'm simping for corporations but no, many corporations are seeking infinite growth in a finite world and it is slowly becoming a rat race many of us aren't going to win in.
And I'm encouraging younger voters to play a role in the nation's election system and all part of it. This goes for Democrats and Republicans. We need to unify and actually participate in this system or we are going to be stuck with crazies and these god damn fossils running this country. I feel your arguments are far more in the camp of "poor me", while I'm pointing out this is the system we have and we need to push for reform on the inside. I know people say its not quick enough or it won't do any good but this apathy bullshit is only making this country worse. War is not pretty, it is not something we should clamor for. We are sitting on our hands and saying we have done everything we can, nearly 33% of people didn't even vote in the 2020 election (who were eligible). Nearly 50% on the midterms and there was progress these last 2 election cycles and that is good there was an improvement but we need to strive for more. We need people participating in the primaries. I get it there is a ton of fucking bullshit around many states trying to make voting harder and this lead many people to throw their hands up in the air and shout "The system is rig, there is no reason to participate". We should be doing the opposite we should get angry, vote even more because the apathy approach will only lead to more restrictions on voting, we have to fight like hell for this to work or those who want to make the working class into glorified serfs will win.
Yeah your are talking about giving off vibes (which apparently gives you plenty of license to “see” what you want in my reply) and we need “unity” (please layout how we can move towards this unity you speak of ¯_(ツ)_/¯ ). Those are not actionable items and it leads to nothing. I was certainly not saying consumers are not to blame but they are the ONLY ones that get the blame and that is systemic. All the abstractions are exactly what fascists want us to focus on. If we could see the forest for the trees we’d know we are the powerful lobby (the people) and we own production etc., but we are conditioned to believe this is “un-American” et al. You can cherry pick anything but when a monsters share of your response is hyperbole, it rings disingenuous and troll-y.
Additionally: the convo you and I are having is a prime example. We are arguing the culture war while losing the class war just by engaging in the ephemera and minutiae of these points. Divided. I dare say you and I wouldn’t be divided if we were engaged in actions not debating in our safe little echo chambers.
My dude, I said we actually engage in our actual electoral system as you say the most powerful lobby (the people). The people are slacking, there is apathy nearly 80% of people don't participate in the US mid term primaries. The people only give a fucking shit about the nation's talking head (Executive branch), who is powerful but we lay about and not give a single shit about the legislative branch, the people who actually get most of the work done. They are the ones who confirm supreme court justices, the ones who make the laws, the ones who can handle impeachments. I don't care about your political views, just fucking participate that is literally what we Americans need to do. So many of us don't know whats actually going on. They just listen to their fucking talking heads about the most eye catching headlines while ignoring some of the more important ones like our privacy basically being sold off and being rated out by the devices we use.
Blind action is wasted action and possibly detrimental to our cause.
I’m saying the reason they are like that is because they have been fucking groomed to be that way! They have been propagandized. “Hoodwinked. Bamboozled..” I don’t know how else to say it! People don’t vote because they are convinced it doesn’t matter. How did they decide that? How did they form that opinion??? You are just not seeing my point. Love you! Stay frosty! I’m out!
I fully agree with you but look up what happened in that district when she was first elected. Her dem opponent was threatened and assaulted and literally run out of town. Stack on that GA being a VERY gerrymandered state and it’s a no lose for her. She’s not from that district and if fact started in another district before they saw how ripe Ranger and Rome GA were for fear tactics and gop shenanigans. My parents live in Ranger and I fucking HATE it there and it’s very possible that the fetal-alcohol fucks nuts that populate that place would elect her any how but don’t discount the tactics used and how unqualified she is.
I hate her face Jesus Christ. I know that’s not an intelligent thing to say but…
I know. Im the same. I think seeing her face is associated with a lot of hateful things she’s said and done and perpetuates.
She looks like a horse with sunburn.
An affront to horses, good sir!
This is a lovely insult that, with your permission, I'm stealing! 🤣
I respect the boldness of cancelling your self-upvote.
That should be a thing. That should be a thing, right?
It's not unintelligent. People are extremely adept at reading facial expressions and microexpressions. Years of evolution / survival instinct development have made us extremely skillful at knowing a lot about a person based on their face / eyes. Our lives depended on it, you see.
Your survival instincts (which are smart) are telling you she's an untrustworthy, toxic individual that you probably shouldn't keep around in your community, and in this case they're right. Everything else she says and does backs up your instincts too, so this isn't just a one-off thing.
It’s extremely bad and dangerous that so many people believe this.
You can’t tell from the way someone looks whether they are trustworthy or not or whether they are telling a lie or not.
I feel this constantly with certain people
She looks like a topographical map of Idaho after carpet bombing. And that one is fresh, my dude.
I thought that was her three toed foot.
I guess i should wear my glasses moreoft...oh, dear god! That face:/!
I have little doubt that MAGA republichudism was wholely responsible for the KKKonvoy rallies that cost the Canadian economy literally billions of dollars in a matter of days with their illegal blockades.
I'd be remiss if I didn't quote one of my favorite saved comments from that-content-aggregator-which-shall-not-be-named...
Fun fact!
The etymology of "quarantine" literally refers to the practice of making a ship sit at berth for 40 days before anyone could disembark. "Quarantina" means 40 days in Italian....
Since you brought up ship quarantine, I think we should start doing that with air travel. It's the number one long-range transmitter of pandemics. It's the enabler of global pandemics.
Quarantine-free air travel should perhaps be treated as a privilege of living in a civilization with advanced medicine and monitoring, a privilege that could be revoked mid-flight for all flights in any given region, like the entirety of Europe.
It's amazing how she, Boebert, and Gaetz are three of the biggest idiots probably ever to hold office in the House, yet they've been popular by spewing hate. That tells us what drives their base.
She did what they think gay and trans people do.
It's always projection with them.
It reminds me of that nut from Africa they showed on the daily show a long time ago, where the guy was telling his tribe what gay people do. "And dey eat da poopoo. Dey eat it like ice cream!"
And while nothing will most likely happen to her for this if it is true, any of us caught doing such things would already be buried under the jail.
She is fucked. If she sent nudes of Hunter Biden to her constituents then the DOJ will absolutely come after her for that. Insane doesn’t come close to describing what may have happened here.
I dunno, she's done a lot of stuff already that would warrant charges but nothing ever comes of it. Of course I'm hoping it sticks this time, but you know how the system works.
Two tiers of justice! /s
If only people crying that about Trump knew how right they were, and how backwards they have it.
Yeah like they went after Gaetz for raping and trafficking a minor.
She's absolutely not fucked. She's a republican. They don't get in trouble for doing shit.
For someone that's not familiar with US politics. Who is Marjorie Taylor Greene and who is Hunter Biden? Why do they matter?
Hunter Biden is President Biden’s son. To be clear, he doesn’t work for the gooberment.
Greene is a congresswoman, House of Representatives from the state of Georgia. She’s a complete right wing nut. And makes howler monkeys look civilized
Honestly you're not exaggerating. If I was asked to pick between attempting to have a civil conversation with Greene or a howler monkey I think I'd have a better chance of success with the latter.
Now that is just rude to howler monkeys
maybe. I'll apologize when they shut up.
At least howler monkeys know when to shut up
They don't. Shut up, that is.
That's a right-wing nut, not a right wing-nut.
Marjorie Taylor Green, sometimes called MTG, is a representation and a result of the dumbing down of united state politics. She's a member of the far right party in this country and pushes conspiracies, racism, bigotry and hatred. She's possibly the least intelligent person to ever hold federal office in this country.
Hunter Biden is the son of the current US president. He holds no office and has nothing to do with politics, but because he's the president's son, the far right politicians spend a large amount of time trying to find anything they can to make him look bad. He's had problems with drugs and the law in the past so there's a decent amount there for them to attack.
Well he did some business dealings in Ukraine with oil companies before the war. That's pretty much it.
What's funny is he didn't even have any real operational authority. It was a total rich-kid-nepotism "show up a couple times a quarter" gig. The corruption shit is true, it's just boring regular rich people corruption.
Dudes a fuckup, but like, yeah. Families have fuckups. My sister is a fuckup. Republicans are pushing on this just because it sucks to have your fuckup sister or kid have their shit put out there for people to see.
They're just assholes.
Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter both had (have?) fuckup brothers. Imagine if the Republicans had spent this much time probing into their lives just as pointlessly?
Right, it's just regular nepo baby shit. That's what kills me.
None of the business stuff in Ukraine is illegal. He’s not a government official, and his dad being president has no bearing on what he can legally take for a job.
The only reason republicans care is because of trump’s corruption (along with most the rest of his family.) that has the critical distinction of being an actual employee of the federal government
Exactly! They're just manufacturing a narrative by suggesting that this guy is nefarious and doing shady stuff with his drug addiction and nude pics on his laptop that was stolen by a private company.
Speaking of which, how in the hell did the people who stole his laptop not get charged with theft and identity theft?
In any case, there's multiple problems here. The laptop was not last in Biden's possession. It's clear the repair shop opened and accessed data on the drive. Given that... it's not useful as evidence of anything, even if there was a complete manifesto detailing plans for world domination. (there's not. there's one email and dick pics)
It's funny, I actually was awarded on Reddit for posting some stuff about the Hunter Biden laptop that won me an argentinium award. I believe it had to do with the fact that an invoice was generated many months after Hunter Biden dropped off the laptop. I still wonder if the laptop was stolen, or how the hell it ended up in the possession of the repair shop and they never returned it to him.
I used to work in computer repair, and that kind of behavior would be illegal and highly unethical. Unless the repair shop had found evidence of something like CP or other illegal activity (although drug use here would count in that regard), they would try to maintain the integrity of the client's data and try their best to return their hardware back to the owner.
A whole situation is really odd.
Yup. If they found things illegal, they’d have to turn it over.
But 1) it was for water damage, why are they going through his emails? It’s unlikely that would even be relevant.
turning it over to the cops is reasonable- fbi might be a bit of a stretch, but sure. Turning over gulianni? That is bad faith. He’s not a criminal lawyer, wasn’t representing hunter, isn’t a law enforcement officer of any stripe. That’s receipt of stolen goods there.
there’s absolutely no reason to believe those emails or any other material are legitimate. Or, you know, even the same laptop. (It probably is. It’s more convincing that way, slipping the few ‘criminal’ bits on and leaving it to be found.)
It all goes to show: guard your data.
I would argue George Santos is a solid contender... Otherwise... Spot on. She's a garbage human being, and, in my opinion, legitimately evil.
She actually got kicked out of the Freedom Caucus.
Both statements are true.
For being too far right.
I envy you, you're better off.
They don't
I only know her name from a JPEGMAFIA song. Pretty sure Hunter is the son of the president of the United States.
Incredibly stupid question, but, if she was charged and convicted of this, wouldn’t she have to register as a sex offender? That would be rather amusing.
At the federal level, 18 USC 1470 covers it. Penalty is fines and/or 10 years in prison at max.
Not sure what statutes apply in the District of Columbia, though.
Hopefully. I would love to see her go to jail.
Should I not be surprised if she doesn't though?
No, you should be surprised if she does. It would break the pattern of more money = less consequence
in a perfect world, it would be surprising if she didn't go to prison. but this is not a perfect world.
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She will not
She DEFINITELY did this, but she MAY have gotten caught doing it.
How long do you think before she turns around and calls LGBTQ+ people or drag queens "groomers" again?
in 3,2,1...
I think the article below it is funnier
I've heard people on the left saying they wish Biden was what the GOP say he is.
Two jewish men are sitting on a bench in Israel reading newspapers. One of the men, reading a newspaper in Hebrew, notices the other man is reading a newspaper in Arabic.
"My friend," he exclaims. "How can you read that trash! Don't you know its all lies?"
The other man puts down his paper and replies, "I used to read your newspaper and I'd get depressed. Its all bad news. Now I read this paper and it makes me happy. We run all the banks, we run Hollywood, soon we will take over the world!"
Old joke
An Australian (I think) news network took just that clip out of context. Biden's Twitter team reposted it with an "I approve this message." It's great!
GQP tactics.
sending porn to children to own the libs
USA have really no concept of non-sexual nudity?
[EDIT] - seems less of nudes and more of full on pornographic pictures, my bad.
I mean... Not really. But tbh, if anyone feels like "all nudity is bad" in America, it's the GOP. So, there is significant irony in a party member potentially participating in dissemination - knowing the number of times any involvement in the past has been criticized on these very grounds.
Remember when Bill O’Reilly would monologue about “disgusting debauchery of Spring Break” over videos of sexy young women playing volleyball in bikinis.
"Hands above the table, Bill."
"Hands above the table, Bill."
I have just one word to say to that falafel.
Not a fan of republicans but it seems rather obvious that it was not her intent to send sexual content to minors. But yes there is an irony that republicans would be the last to recognise that there is non-sexual nudity, so you have a point.
Despite your edit, from what I can tell of being born and raised in the USA, there isn't really a concept of non-sexual nudity, outside of locker rooms/campsite bathouses, some restrooms, and of course, nudist communities/beaches.
Even just taking a leak somewhere that is somewhat secluded if there are no restrooms can land someone a public urination and maybe an indecent exposure charge.
This is what comes of being largely founded by puritanical moronic zealots. Many of them were the Scientology of their age. Europe was glad to ship them over here.
This would really be more like non-consensual sexual nudity... Potentially sent to minors who might unexpectedly be exposed to it (presumably) without their or their parents' or guardians' consent.
Accidental or not, my understanding is that the reason she was sharing the photos to begin with was because she believed there was something "scandalous", embarrassing, and specifically sexual going on in the photos.
If Hunter were a woman, and likely if Greene were a man too, I feel there would be more significant pressure on Greene to apologize.
I don’t think so. If Hunter was a woman he now would be shamed endlessly, the focus would be on him instead of the perpetrator and there would be several porn sites featuring his photos.
Well, that, too, probably. Not to mention all comments like "Why would a woman with grown and married daughter act that way?!!?!"
This is too US-American for me. Would be funny if that broke the neck of that crazy lady.
Yup moat people really dont.
But it is indeed sexual?
Is it? I thought it was just nudes? Anyways - sounds like peak stupid politics, hope you guys can come back to more rational times.
So Republican men are obsessed with penises, and apparently Republican women are as well.
Democrats should be turning the GOP into a laughing stock with this situation. Making some innuendo jokes about "like father like son" to imply that Joe is hung like a horse, or make some jokes implying MTG isn't getting any at home, so she's lusting after some Democratic sausage. Basically make it very humiliating for Republicans to continue to push this issue.
Unfortunately, as usual, I just don't see them doing it. There might some jokes being made online, but Democrats as a party don't seem to really be attacking the GOP on this with dirty, underhanded attacks.
Effectiveness of this suggestion hinges on Rs having shame and/or decency. It's almost prerequisite to not have such a thing to get voted in.
Republicans only represent 1/3 of the public. If 2/3rds of the public is laughing at them, that's more than good enough.
In the early 20th century the KKK went into sharp decline due to an exposee on their initiation practices, and suddenly the (white) public found them to be a really silly group of frat boys rather than a serious organization to ever consider being recruited to
Turning your opponent into a joke is one of the best methods of attack, especially in cases where the threat is very serious. War propaganda the world over characterizes a nation's enemy as some bumbling idiot. Hogan's Heroes, the TV show, did a great job at portraying the very serious issue of Nazis and made them look like a joke. Democrats are so bad at marketing and going after their opponents though that they'll never do anything.
Lock. Her. Up.
Lock her ass up!!!!
Don't be dragging Minecraft into your sordid squabbles.
Man, this is just like Magic The Gathering
It's crazy to me that anyone can be ok with someone sharing nudes of someone who did not consent. They're both adults at this point but it's literally the president's son, too. I'm not big on appeals to authority but maybe a modicum of respect for a politicians family insofar as not sharing naked photos of them?
And the response so far is that she can get away with it. So it continues to be normalized.
The people who dismiss her as "just a dumbass" - whether she's doing this because she's literally insane or because she's been told to - recognize the lasting damage this type of behavior is inflicting.
What's crazier is that the same people who scream "the liberals are exposing our kids to sexually explicit content" because a book has two gay characters hold hands are perfectly fine with the nude photos being sent to everyone. If a gay kiss lasting two lines is enough to cause screams of rage, why aren't actual nude photos being emailed to everyone resulting in screams?
Of course, the answer is that they don't care as long as the nude photos "own the libs." (So Hunter nudes are okay, but Ivanka nudes would be outrageous.) If showing kids an explicit video of two guys having sex would somehow "own the libs," then the right would suddenly be all for kids seeing that sexually explicit content.
She's trash, along with all other rebuplicans in congress.
Also I wonder if Hunter Biden is regretting not encrypting his laptop hardrive and/or using veracrypt/cryptomator (assuming he now knows it's a thing).
I can't help but wonder who he was sending videos of himself smoking crack to? Why would a grown man even take a video of themself doing something illegal? I don't care, he's not any part of the Biden administration, its just bafflingly stupid.
She should become a sex offender for this. Any normal person would get sentenced to prison if they did this, yet somehow i don't think she'll get in any real trouble for this.
What the fuck can we do about this? I'm so sick of seeing powerful people get away with all types of crimes every single day while there are regular people serving 30 year sentences for getting caught with some weed.
We are past the point where we should be revolting. I don't think we should resort to violence, but we should put our collective foot down.
We have all the power. This country's economy would grind to a screeching halt if we stopped showing up for work. We need to make some demands and stop contributing until they are met. Accountability for the powerful should be among those demands. I also say we demand the ability to pay for housing, goof, and health care by working a full time job. If we don't have those bare minimums, then what are we even doing?
Burn the witch.
I saw this posted so many times on reddit. IDGAF. please stop reposting about MTG. my life is better without seeing her face or hearing about her. It also feels in line with claire mccaskill's democratic election strategy - keep showing people the most extreme and they'll turn right back to us centrists. hakeem jefferies also just hammers this point day in and day out. I am glad they are, but i wish there was something more than this, its soooo down there.
There's no such thing as a centrist in the US. Just people too nervous to wear the robe.
Odd way to announce she’s switching parties, but she has always been a bit unpredictable.
Why? Why do we waste time with this kind of trash journalism? Its not relevant, its pure garbage. Stop wasting your time with trash journalism like that. Vote it down, ignore it, it does'nt matter. Please!
This is actually relevant though because what she did makes a complete joke of our government and is a literal crime. There are many irrelevant unimportant posts on here bringing attention to people who don't deserve it but she deserves as much attention as is necessary to put her in jail.
It is not. It is just diversion. You have to be clear, these people have a very strong agenda. You give these irrelevant people attraction with every single mention.
A sitting member of Congress fragrantly broke the law here. It is in the country's interest to know that. Most of the articles about her are trash just designed to keep her in the news, but this isn't one of those.
One! One sitting member! Do you see the problem here? What are the other members doing in the mean time?
If we find out they're also breaking the law, then we should hear about that in the news as well. This time, it's MTG breaking the law so that's what's relevant.
We have investigated ourselves and determined that we did nothing wrong
If this were AOC spreading pictures of Trumps kid everyone’s statements would flip flop lol.
No. AOC doing that would be reprehensible too.
Right? Like what the fuck. I can't imagine ever going, "haha look at Eric's penis. AOC is a legend!" or anything. I like AOC because she doesn't do things like that. And if she did things like that, I would lose respect for her.
That was such a weird and weak "but both sides" attempt because it's only based in a hypothetical situation where they can pretend they know how things will totally turn out.
Edit: oh. Surprise. That koofnoof's history is not surprising at all. Apparently thinks conservative ideas such as hating trans people isn't hateful because "the true hate is from the trans people hating themselves". I've never once yet ever on here or reddit seem a stupid "both sides" come from anyone even remotely left leaning. It's always hateful bigots trying to say everyone is as much of a piece of shit as they are.
Yep. They both-sides this shit because they really, really want it to be true that both sides are equally reprehensible, but it simply isn't so. And as usual, the accusation turns out to be a confession.
The left doesn't blindly hero-worship like the right. If someone has issues, they're called out for it. Up to and including people at the top.
Nah, that's gross behavior no matter who is doing it.
Funny how right wingers think everyone just wants to protect their own like they do. No, that's why the two side are NOT the same. We want the rules followed no matter who
They're broken people and they can't fathom that not everybody thinks the same.
Yeah, all the conservatives would want AOC hanging. But Greene, they will praise her. Fucking double standards.
Anthony Weiner went to jail for sending obscene material to a minor. We'll see if the same happens to MTG.
Yeah no if AOC did that I would be losing all respect for her. It's not at all appropriate.
Please provide an example of someone on the left doing something like this, and their base praising them for it
Didn't we play this out earlier with Melania? That she was a model before she married Trump and there are pictures of her in her underwear? And didn't both sides go, "Why are you bringing this up? It is not relevant to this election."
That’s not a good comparison. Melania’s pictures are public, and AFAIK nobody in public office made a big deal out of if. These pictures are private and were presented by a member of congress
Underwear? She was showing her tits in a professional photo shoot.
Whatever. I only remember it wasn't something weird.
You guys are always allergic to context, lol.
All except Tiffany and Baron were an official part of the Trump administration, as advisors to the President, so all except Tiffany and Baron are fair game politically. Eric, Don Jr, Ivanka chose to become active parts of Trump's political endeavors.
It's not who but what, we should be passing judgement on. The act itself is bad no matter who does it.
You're proposing a scenario that wouldn't happen, because AOC isn't a deranged fascist like Greene. But if AOC did what Greene has done here, she would also need to face harsh repercussions beginning with expulsion from office.
What the fuck is wrong with you? It's horrible no matter who does it and it's also AGAINST THE LAW. You know, the thing the Republicans claim to be the party of?
Did she? Because if not then you're just playing a fun imagination game.
The difference is that Dems would never do such a thing, because no decent human would do such a thing.
Man, every reply to your comment is a Whoosh© moment.
You’re absolutely right. Obviously it is reprehensible no matter who does it. But if the Left did it, the fascists would be foaming at the mouth about how unacceptable and criminal the act was (which it would be regardless of who did it).