The older I get, the truer this becomes

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Haha that's so--

Actually, never mind. I don't care that much.

I have a strange fear of being engaged by trolls. The thought alone is exhausting. I may or may not take the bait but the possibility of wasting my time on a useless argument means I'm hesitant to post. Not sure if anyone else has felt like this.

I violently disagree with your whole worldview and wish to engage you in rigorous debate over a topic neither of us has any ability to actually change in real life.

Here is the rebuttal and deconstruction of everything that you believe:

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this is latin right? people who can write in latin actually exist? man that's crazy

can you provide a translation? google translate suck for dead language

It's a butchered version of some of Cicero's writings used by print setters for hundreds of years.

If you Google "Lorem Ipsum" there's lots of stuff out there about it. But it's basically nonsense. You could go and find the original Cicero writings. This article popped up on Google for me and references the work, along with info in how or why it's used.

https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/lorem-ipsum-case-wondering/

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It can be a part of Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria, and it's more common in people with ADHD. You're not alone in feeling this way.

They're bound to name some form of mental defect after you.

It's already a thing. Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria. It's more common in people with ADHD.

The meme in the OP was made for you. You should learn what it means.

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Also, realizing that I actually don't really have any idea what I'm talking about...

Conversely, if you actually are an expert on a specific subject, reading any comment thread about it is very disheartening and will leave you wondering how much bullshit you've accidentally ingested and taken at face value from other threads about which you are less knowledgeable.

This phenomenon was coined Gell-Mann Amnesia. Sometimes people will ingest content uncritically even when the source has been wrong in the past on subjects the people are knowledgeable about.

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It's a good habit. I wish most people had that mindset, usually they just hit send and launch their nonsensical tirade. It's a good way to get your thoughts out of your head without actually putting them online. I use to do it all the time in r/news even though I was shadowbanned because I refused to link an email to my account. It is kind of cathartic.

Honestly I think Reddit helped me recognize my own ignorance about most things. Well, more specifically, other people on Reddit who found various ways of pointing out that I didn't really know what I was talking about... I'm much less likely to post a comment than I used to be.

Reddit was great for that, I loved that aspect. I actually really enjoy when I have what I think is the most accurate opinion and then someone just comes around and is a niche Subject Matter Expert and slamdunks on me. It causes me to go down a rabbit hole and learn a lot of new stuff.

Yeah, I can see you've really cut down on babbling a bunch of bullshit every chance you get. πŸ™„

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I also do this with emails at work all the time. I write a long detailed explanation of why something or someone is incorrect, then I realize clicking send will just cause me more hassle and I'm just working to get paid. It's not really gonna make my job any harder if they continue to be wrong, so it'll just sit there in drafts.

Take my advice, remove it from drafts.

At least for me, unread mails and draft mails, just being reminded they exist, is mentally taxing.

I get so caught up in making sure my meaning can't possibly be misinterpreted that I get lost on my way to the point. I guess I don't want to be a cherry-picked example of somebody being stupid on the Internet.

Write something with specificity to avoid attacks on a general statement and nobody reads it because it’s TL;DR.

Write something general and brief and you get attacked for lack of specificity with people naming exceptions.

Can’t fucking win.

Interesting game, the only way to win is to not play.

Thing is you might need to reframe something for someone to understand it better. But then you're not expressing your original interpretation of a concept but a slightly modified one. Yet we are expected to believe we are both somehow closer to comprehension...
What are words even good for?!

If it makes you feel any better, just know that journalism is based on cherry picked stuff because that's the only way they're able to live nowadays

Well, that's the only way we have ever lived. Specifically cherry picking stuff that could potentially kill us. Ipso facto; if it bleeds it leads

Spend 10 minutes articulating exactly how you conceptualize/feel about something.

"Yeah. That's about right, but nobody including myself really cares..."

Close tab.

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Not necessarily anything to do with ADHD. Sometimes I just realise that writing whatever I'm writing would just trigger someone to start a fight. Then I stop.

It would being nothing to the conversation, or I don't find the right words for explain my ideas correctly.

Or I realize halfway through that I'm being a bit of a dick and decide the world doesn't need more shittiness so I just delete the comment.

Or I realize that the message I start to reply to is hostile and not worth engaging with.

Or I find the right words, but they come all at once and in the wrong order, and there's just so many of them, and it's very important that I get them exactly right, and... yeah I'm just going to not bother.

And then a few hours later I realize that it was a work email and I probably should get back to that.

Happens to me all the damn time.

I just wish I wouldn't waste an hour typing and rewording it before I eventually give up.

This is like 80% of my comments but just 5-10 minutes. I don't want to deal with the follow up lol.

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Do you ever type out a multiple paragraph argument about something and then just delete it because it’s all bullshit anyway?

Yep. Like sometimes that fifth reread of the comment I'm replying to makes me realize the person is actually a troll and won't care how thought out my response is.

All. The. Time.

I just did it for this comment, and then after realising that I wrote this comment (the previous was going on a different tangent)

I’ve done it on a post about blimps since posting that comment lol πŸ˜…

Sometimes I get to the finish line and submit it. Then some shmuck has the nerve to point out some silly little typo. I barely care enough to finish the comment you real

Arguing with people on the internet is like masturbation. It's fun at first, but eventually you realize you are only fucking yourself.

We should just build a meme where we hit submit instead of cancel. I think it would really lead

I do this in real life too. I just windows log-off noise midway through a conversation

I started 4 responses in this thread and submitted 2 of them. I'm proud of myself. Oh! This one makes 3!

I was going to respond but decided not to and kept scrolling till I decided I would ...

Yup. I just suddenly realize that I don't actually give a fuck.

Sometimes I still give a fuck... Just not enough to debate it with anyone and if that's what I anticipate then it often makes more sense to see myself out.

Yeah it's like, y'know what, I don't care enough to respond

Or that I don't actually have anything to contribute and that my opinion has already been stated so I won't be adding anything original to the conversation.

My usual thought process is: Can’t be arsed to do a full write up that covers all my thoughts on the topic, and even if I did no one wants to read it.

If I write a summarised comment then people will just nitpick the bits I didn’t address, and I can’t be bothered to respond to replies.

When I type out a well thought out reply and realize where I'm posting it. They will not appreciate my hot takes.

People think that this is a form of apathy but it actually isn't. According to research by Cornell University conducted in 2009, they found that

Usually for me I just wrote something in far more of an aggressive tone than I realized and the comment is not worth retyping everything I wrote so far.

I find it amusing that a lot of comments start with "Wrong", or "No". People love to correct other people.

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And yet some have no such filter and start firing off comments without a second thought.

They didn't read article, didn't spend time forming an opinion, and yet they may still be the highest voted comment in the thread. It's like drive-by comment diarrhea.

I wish most threads had a "serious conversation" area separated from the humor/low-effort section.

That serious conversation area has crossed my mind many times too! Or a crowd-sourced extension to highlight engaging comments.

On reddit in particular I was exhausted to go into the comments only to scroll past heaps of accounts making the same tired jokes and low effort jabs they've seen around the topic before. Anything to skip the millionth 'falling out of the window' or 'getting shot in the back of the head twice' joke.

i stopped caring about life alltogether. years start to mean shit when someone decides how long should it take to finish a curriculum or how long u ll have to grind to reach that higher pay position..i mean if nothing were up to me, why would i still care? this shouldn't be adhd exclusive, or i might hav adhd. bothways, idc ( at some point doctor called me bipolar, and in my mind, i was like: sure bro) psychiatry is sometimes overrated and ineffective, seems like big pharma funded snake oil kinda science, just a pretense to churn out ineffective chemicals for psychotropes. have problem: smoke weed or something, although i didnt try yet

I still care. I just don't want to potentially start an argument I don't intend to engage in.

I think this is actually a positive sign. At least a step in the right direction. Increased awareness and cutting your losses, not being further drawn in by the sunk-cost or completion bias.

People aren't that great online at hearing what you mean not what you're saying. The implications normally drawn by assuming the other person is either of basic intelligence or aware of the context are thrown out the window in favor of Internet points.

It's exhausting. Sometimes that's why I like mastodon or twitter or threads or nostr. Whatever pick your poison. Point is I want to say my fucking piece and not have to add all this extra context so the other person doesn't call me an idiot on some niche part of what I said.

Thinking about it from the commenters perspective: People online need to go back to just saying what they actually meant to say without prefacing everything. If that happened we'd at least have a more fulfilling experience. There's a reason folks leave knee jerk comments and don't elaborate further because the sentiment is popular too.

Are you trying to imply people with ADHD, as in Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, have an attention span long enough not to reply?

https://www.wordnik.com/words/deficiency

Sometimes my Autism gets the upper hand and I have to correct someone being wrong on the internet

Yes. I'm fairly sure this too is a trait shared by ADHD, though.

More like start writing a comment. Realize you said you weren't going to get involved so type out the rest of your spiel and delete it. This anytime tipping comes up.

That's why I would love a "save draft" option on Lemmy. First I could write down what I want, keep it and decide later if I really want to send it and even if I don't want to, I could keep it and maybe re-use it some other day or just learn from what I felt the moment I wrote this.

It happens to us all eventually, the longer we interact online. The reality is, it's necessary to counter misinformation for society as a whole going forward and while I try to jump in where possible, I've definitely stayed out of more and more controversial discussions. That's said, I respect and appreciate the next generation taking up the torch. We need you.

Same with entering into pote trial flamewars or debates. Too tired, dont care

I do this allll the time. I'm like do i want to engage in this conversation? NOPE lol

I don't have a Cancel button on the web UI so I am usually nervous that it will somehow get posted ever tho I don't want to post it.

post a comment

see someone else posted something similar

delete comment

sometimes idk why i bother

Language isn't just a communication skill. We use it to imagine complex concepts; monetary systems, nation states, moral codes. The fictitious ideas that are the foundation of society.

Language is a new fandangle way of articulating our thoughts. Regardless of whether anyone else reads it, we examine and inform our own opinion without swaying others. For example, determine that we dont really give a shit about a certain topic.

We use it to imagine complex concepts; monetary systems, nation states, moral codes. The fictitious ideas that are the foundation of society.

Most do. For some of us, though, language is just something we have to inconveniently translate to, to communicate our thoughts.

At some level that's universal. The billion year old subconscious spoon feed its conscious monke-mind answers and solutions because the new upstart called a self wouldn't know what to do without fandangle narratives of memes..

Why dream of my dead mother-in-law riding a tricked-out unicycle to metaphorically represent the best career path I've been stewing on?.. Just tell me which damn job to take stupid lizard brain! Maybe the concept in my dream is just closer to the truth of it all.

I thought more because some of us (more here than on other platforms) are autist/asperger and don't think in words but directly in content/logic.

Well you know what...

Yeah. Fuck yeah.

Also, didn't realize I missed this meme.

Pfff. I ignore most replies all together. Half the time people didn't even read my comment. But also because I'll have moved on and don't care anymore.

Same goes for this comment.

Most of the time I'm simply too lazy for a worthwhile comment.

Well.... Leave it, i don't have any time tomorrow is my exam. πŸ’€

I don't care enough to hold whatever rubbish my brain is spiting out so I send it anyway

Me on basically any post that has incorrect information from blahaj.

It just adds to the power of the posts you do make

I type so fast that thought only comes after posting the comment...

Most of my comments get edited 3-4 times seconds after posting them.