Windows: we noticed that you kept the useless search bar disabled since 2015, so we sent an update that re-enabled it without your permission
For my "convenience" and because in this way they can show ads and clickbait
Also: I SET A FUCKING GROUP POLICY THAT DISABLES THE SEARCH BAR; WHY THEY FUCKING IGNORE IT???
Classic microsoft move.
Linux has gotten great over the years and keeps improving while windows gets worse and worse every day. This has been going on for many years now.
I switched already and suggest you give it a shot as well. It's honestly much easier than windows if you know the basics and understand how things are done there.
How is it for gaming?
Pretty damn good these days.
I just got a new game off steam, no issues with installation. Thats my experience this entire year.
Fantastic - made the jump a month ago. I don't play FPS games. Those are the ones that have trouble running on Linux due to anti-cheast software, but the vast majority of my 600 steam games run with no issues it all - at sometimes running even better than on windows.
For example division 2 was sluggish on win11 on my Lenovo y540 (integrated GeForce whatever gaming laptop card) with 16gig of ram, now that I swapped over to Pop!_os - it doesn't lag at all.
I mostly play single player games, but guild wars 2 2 and ff14 work great too if you are an MMO fan.
PoE works great if you want an ARPG to play.
Make the move and own your PC again.
Can you play Games like World of Warcraft on Linux?
I've played world of Warcraft on Linux for at least 8 years now.
You can yes, you can use Lutris and it will help you get that installed. GW2 and FF14 will both run with steam (proton)
I play mosty either indy games or just older games on an older gaming laptop (geforce 1070m based HP Omen) and Steam/Linux Mint work pretty great. Outer Wilds works even better in Linux now that I've begun using CoreCtrl to disable CPU power throttling. Otherwise, it runs about like it did on Windows. The MCC runs flawlessly. Recently purchased No Man's Sky and it runs pretty well and is actually incredibly smooth--no idea how that one runs in Windows because I've been just using Linux full-time for maybe two months now.
There is some weirdness like having to process Vulcan Shades before games boot up which can be annoying, but it hasn't discouraged me yet. You can also skip that and the only difference is there might be a bit of stuttering for the first bit of game play. After going back to Windows to compare performance, I think it does this stuttering thing anyways?
Shader compiling is just a graphical technique. DX12 does it too. Just that, Vulkan is nice enough to tell you a bit about it, and Steam has preemptive compiling, which runs most of the compiling before running the game precisely to reduce stuttering during gameplay. If you recall when The Last of Us remake launched, a lot of people were reporting up to an hour of “Loading” time at the menu before the game was playable on first run, and some were even reporting compiling on every single run of the game just as long. That was a bug with DX12 Shader compiling and it was prominent in both consoles and Windows. It's not a Vulkan thing, nor particular about Linux. That is just how graphically intensive games are made nowadays.
+1 for indie games. I really think we're living in the golden age of indie gaming with tools like Godot, Unreal, and Unity (yes, yes, I know, but Unity is probably still the most popular engine for now). As indies get empowered more and more by tools like this, and AAA studios get greedier and greedier, I can't find any reason to play anything that isn't from an indie game developer.
And most, nearly even all indie games work great on Linux, often even better than their Windows counterparts.
I just skip the loading vulkan stage and it works fine for me.
Mmhmm. I've started doing this and it does work fine. I think I saw a comment once that noted they compile faster in-game anyways. So that makes me feel better about skipping lol
Not a gamer myself but from reading it used to be "this is a limited list of games that will work in Linux" and now it's a "this is a limited list of games that will not work", with a lot of thanks to valve, pop-os!, etc.
I have been a Linux gamer for the past 10 years. I haven't booted into Windows to play a video game in 8.
When I started out, it was very much a question of "Here is the list of games that work on Linux." You had to look for that Steam logo next to the Windows or sometimes Apple logo on the Steam page, and there are some games I would have played years earlier had that logo been there. With Proton, it has switched to "Here is a list of the games that don't work on Linux." Because most just do, with the very notable exception of competitive shooters, because something something anticheat.
I often hear that games actually run better on Linux than they do on Windows, except the newer whiz-bang features don't work. Give a recent example, apparently Cyberpunk 2077 runs at a significantly higher framerate on Linux than Windows, but DLSS, HDR and RTX aren't available.
Let me tell you the tales of two gamers on Linux:
My tale: I was disgusted with Windows 8.1, I had been learning some Linux because I wanted to use a Raspberry Pi with my ham radio stuff, so I went...why don't I try switching? This was circa 2014. There was exactly one game in my Steam library that just could not be persuaded to run and that was Sleeping Dogs.
There have been a few games I've wanted to try that refused to run in some way or another; Heave Ho! by Devolver Digital...the demo ran fine, had a good time with it. Bought the game, and the UI on the player select screen didn't work. Grow Up or Grow Home (one is a sequel to the other, I forget which it was) launched, but the character didn't respond to any controls. Oh and Fallout: New Vegas launched one of those Windows-style autorun screens then asked me to put in the DVD. I bought it from Steam. And refunded it.
I generally avoid AAA games, I don't play many online multiplayer games, I do play multiplayer games with friends, stuff like Stardew Valley or Unrailed, but I don't go play with random people online, those just are not fun to me. I tend to prefer more indie stuff, more nerdy stuff, like I've got hundreds of hours in Factorio and Satisfactory, both work fine. I think it just so happens that I'm into games that are likely to be well supported on Linux. Antichamber, Firewatch, Hollow Knight, Return of the Obra Dinn, every Zachtronics game I've tried, Undertale, Subnautica, these all run great.
My cousin: had an aging Dell upgraded from Windows 7 to 10 on an "optane boosted" hard disk drive, starting to run pretty sluggish. Swapping out the hard disk and optane module for an SSD and attempting to install Win10 on bare metal just wouldn't work, it kept throwing cryptic errors, so to get the machine to work at all I put Linux Mint on it.
She has more mainstream tastes than I do, lots of Bethesda and EA games. Funnily enough, I found that the third-party launchers were the real problem. The Sims 4 ran pretty well on Linux...Origin barely does. Minecraft support on Linux is actually worsening with time as a result of Microsoft's involvement, but at least the Java edition does currently run.
In brief, I have observed a very stark inverse relationship between Linux compatibility of games, and the size/corporateness/evilness of the developer.
Luckily I don’t play multiplayer games online either. Losing DLSS is rough though
Owning a GTX-1080, I haven't really noticed.
I'm not really worried about stuff like that because it's a self-bootstrapping cycle. As more end users adopt Linux, more effort will be put into supporting it.
Mildly inconvenient at worst unless certain anti cheat software is being used. At best, you can run games on Linux that your machine may not be able to handle on windows because distros that use more resources than windows are rare. Steam on Linux has proton built into it and it just works once you set it to run through it. You might have gpu driver trouble with Nvidia but it’s a maybe issue that happens less and less.
I play Baldurs Gate 3 on it and it turned out the issues I thought might be linux related were hardware, when I fixed it it worked perfectly.
Great, I play a lot on it and the only game I had to use windows for so far was titanfall 2 because it kept stuttering on linux and troubleshooting stutter is hard.
In my experience, much of the studdering comes from the desktop environments. If you're using Gnome, try KDE or one of the others. If it changes then it's probably the Compositor settings. It's a pain but once you find the right settings, oh yeah it's great
Thanks, I use KDE on X already (thank you nvidia) and find gnome's design absolutely asinine, so I'll try to fiddle around with the compositor settings.
SteamOS has been a big boon to the Linux gaming world.
Pretty great actually. Not as out of the box as on Windows but almost there. Firstly you get a vastly different experience depending on if you are using Steam. Since I have my entire library on Steam I can't say anything about other stores. There's imo 3 points where the experience still differs:
1 - you have to enable Proton as the default compatability tool, Valve has a guide for it and the setting is pretty straightforward to find.
2 - Most games just work now but a few don't in those cases things like protondb.com are an enormous help.
3 - Mods are hit and miss (Steam Workshop works fine) depending on the game, for Cyberpunk for example I had to mess with the Proton Config a bit but there were guides for it. However since we are now in a niche of a niche (modding a game running proton) you're likely to run into unexplored territory
Between Steam's Proton Compatibility Layer and Lutris, pretty damn fine.
because you dont own your pc. microfrost does
The OS, not the PC.
If you own a Microsoft product the technical own your balls, read the fine print
I should ask my friend in IT about this to confirm.
Just ask him to return your balls
Bad news. He won't. :(
The os controls the PC. As long as it's running it's controlling it
I am sure they just replaced the gpo with another one and accidentally forgot to carry over the setting.
They new one is totally better though and will improve your experience. You should configure it.
More and more I am considering taking a vacation with the specific goal of migrating to Linux. I've got decades old workflows linked to certain programs and tools that I know for sure only exist in Windows, so I'll likely have to still run it in a VM for those, but my system setup is just kinda the place I call home the most, yet my patience for all this nonsense is rapidly declining.
Do it, my friend. I took the leap ~5 years ago and have not once regretted it. You're right, you have Wine and Windows VMs available, if need be. But, honestly, I bet you end up replacing those work flows with better ones within Linux before long.
I mean, I'd like to. But some of my work requires me to use stuff like Adobe products and I find it massively easier to keep up to date with what these tools can do, if I can just muck around in my private projects (I actually care about) and then transfer the knowledge to my work stuff. I'll mull the idea some more time. Not really interested in dual booting at all, though that might be a solid solution, but windows simply deciding to kill everything else, even if its on a different disk entirely is not a prospect I relish.
If its for work I would suggest picking a "stable" distribution like Debian, Kubuntu or OpenSuse.
A lot of people recommend Arch or Fedora but the focus of those is getting the very latest releases, which increases your chance of stuff breaking.
A lot of people will suggest niche distributions, those can be great for specific needs but generally you will always find Debian/Ubuntu/RHEL support for commercial apps.
I would also suggest looking at the KDE Desktop, many distributions default to Gnome but it is unique in how it works, KDE (or XFCE) will provide a desktop similar to Windows 11.
Lastly I would suggest looking at Crossover Linux by Codeweavers.
Linux has something called WINE, its an attempt to implement the Windows 95 - 11 API's so windows applications can run on linux.
WINE is how the Steam Deck/Linux is able to play Windows games. Valve embedded it into Steam and called it "Proton".
WINE is primarily developed by Codeweavers and they provide the Crossover application that makes setting up and running a Windows application really easy.
People will mention Lutris but that has a far higher learning curve.
There is an application database so you can see in advance if your applications would work: https://appdb.winehq.org/
Thanks for the long response. I was thinking Mint maybe, had some experience with it a few years ago. But it'd replace both my private and work stuff over, so some gaming, too (mainly through steam). Stability is key to me. My current Windows install hasn't needed anything for 4 years or so, so I'm absolutely not going for Arch. I need this stuff daily, I cannot waste time trying to troubleshoot for hours or relying on backups, etc.
Yeah I honestly wouldn't use Arch or indeed any rolling release distro for any machine that's used for revenue. Go with a stable release distro. Mint is one of the very few I even bother considering, there's a reason it's been as popular as it has for so long.
I know it has a shitty "95-ish" look to it, but https://distrowatch.com/ is quite possibly your best resource in finding out at a glance which of the distros you're interested in are stable or rolling, and how popular they are. Go down the page hit ranking on the right, and start clicking: you will see the root build of every distro, whether it's stable or rolling, the last release date, links to reviews, etc.
It won't get you to your final decision, but it will get you to a shortlist. And then you can start making LiveUSB sticks to test drive your distros of choice in RAM without having to install anything. There are very few distros that require a full install to try out; if you run into one you can always use old hardware or a spare disk, etc. Mint has a LiveUSB of all its DE choices, Pop!OS has a LiveUSB, you just need the USB sticks and something like Rufus to make them with, and you're ready to test drive.
Well worth the trouble, IMO. Good luck.
Mint was a reaction to Gnome 3, the unique workflow upset a lot of people and the people behind Mint decided to build Cinnamon desktop (its Gnome 3 made to look/work like Gnome 2). They needed a distribution to build/test their work and so based a distribution off of Ubuntu and called it Mint.
As a bit of explanation, there are only a few projects which attempt to build an entire linux distribution from scratch. This involves finding code from thousands of sources, work out packaging, etc.. We call these 'base' distributions, Debian is the base distribution for Ubuntu, Ubuntu is the base distribution for Mint.
Ubuntu tends to be slightly ahead of Debian in the software versions it uses and automatically enables the 'non-free' repositories. Ubuntu tends to push some Canonical specific things like Snaps (which everyone hates)
I believe Mint rolls the Canonical specific things out of Ubuntu and you get the latest version of Cinnamon.
Its all a bit...
Just a heads up OpenSUSE is phasing out leap so it won't have a stable release "soon" unless the things with ALP shake out well.
Apart from Wine, Proton also includes some other stuff that helps gaming.
Also here is the Proton comparability site: https://www.protondb.com/
There might not be a Linux native version of the adobe products available but theres a fun script that lets it run from what I experienced flawlessly on several distributions
Could you give more info on that?
https://github.com/LinSoftWin/Photoshop-CC2022-Linux A good friend of mine as recommended this to me and for what I care it works pretty well For the others I just used wine and the normal installer and they worked but without GPU acceleration
Thanks! I'll give it a try next time I have time to spend in front of my own computer (not anytime soon..)
Sure if I can find it On it as soon as I am able to
I've been dual booting for almost ten years and distro hopped a fair bit and never had that happen. Not once ever. I've screwed up my fair share of installs too. I think it's one of those things that used to be a problem 20+ years ago, but is now basically a meme.
I'm doing it. I build a new pc every 5 to 10 years. The new monster has posted. Need a few small cables before I really get started. I was going to put an older copy of win10 pro on it. But I'm going to take the Linux leap. The tower will be free of windows from day 1.
Nobara simply because the author also wrote Proton, the Steam linux gateway. (Open to suggestions).
All AMD.
Gaming. Streaming. Internet. Video files. Voice recording. Occasional simple documents. That's 99.99 percent of my usage.
Right on, dude. I hope the transition is a pleasant one for you!
I would suggest OpenSUSE Thumbleweed, but I did not use it for many years. And my current distro(Gentoo) isn't well known as entry-level. Though for me personally it was.
Also for gaming never use PulseAudio, lag is unbearable.
Best of luck. I can't go back to windows any more. Well, I still dual boot for one game and the digital features of my national ID cause OF COURSE that software is windows only. 😒
In case you didn't know or haven't tried yet: AusweisApp2 does exist for Linux. But I assume, like me, you tried unsuccessfully already. For me, the Linux drivers of my card reader don't work...
I think if you have a new Perso it should be possible to utilize the NFC module in your phone
I think we're both German. My ID doesn't have that yet, I dread the day where I can't renew it without all that nonsense.
I'm not German, so I need explaination.
Germany introduced some digital ID functionality so you can do certain things online rather than having to go talk to someone in person, but that means that your ID isn't just a card anymore but has some digital elements to it as well. And apparently the apps to use that stuff are Windows based.
Come on. Join the dark side. We have cookies.
[Reject all]
But once you have tweaked things a bit, a new home is surprisingly quickly found. I mean, i know what you mean. But in the end, like or dislike boils down to a few basics and the rest accumulates over time.
I did the switch twenty years ago, starting with dual-boot and Wine. Nowadays dual-boot is gone and I never use Wine outside of gaming.
You'll be surprised how much you can do with wine and mono. But even so, switching and getting a vm is a viable option
It would be nice if lemmy made it easy to create a community or such for every program and let people join to collect the necessary knowledge together.
huh, is it not easy to create a community? I created one a few months ago and all I needed was a name for it.
The problem lies in reaching the people who could be interested in joining.
well, that's just the way it is. not sure what you want the lemmy devs to do about it
windows is malware
the fact they did this on ltsc as well is insane
definitely insane to do this on LTSC
Makes me worried what Microsoft force onto us next.
Advertising in the explorer, personalised by the files you're looking at
Fuck you for being right
Or on znls. It's ridiculous
I switched to Linux after this sort of tricks.
They also will fuck with your "privacy and security settitings" on updates.
If you try blocking search and start pinging home. It will make windows endleally spazz which causes stuttering in games.
They forced me to switch to Linux pretty much
Thanks satya microshit...
Imagine treating a paying customer like this
One thing I did was go through hoops to disable the bing searches from the menu.
Instead I should have switched to linux long ago.
I switched to Linux when the "We've scheduled your free update to Windows 10!"-like popup started appearing again and again on my Win7 machine even though I disabled it. I didn't like not having a choice and they only got worse from there. Meanwhile, you have full control over every part of a Linux system. You can even uninstall the update manager if you feel like it.
They're getting there with windows 11.. first it was 'hey you're compatible with windows 11' now they've stepped up to a full screen non-skippable screen a big 'upgrade to windows 11' but still with a button to stay on windows 10 hidden in the corner. It's only a matter of time before that button disappears.
I tried the Win11 compatibility app once, it said i wasn't compatible due to some BIOS settings I needed to change. Nah, I'm good, and it hasn't bugged me to upgrade since.
I made mine deliberately incompatible by disabling the fTPM but started getting the upgrade prompts recently.
I'm almost glad my current hardware doesn't support Windows 11. No matter how much it tries, it can't force me to have different hardware.
I remember a lot of folks waking up one day to find their system had borked itself overnight installing Win 10 without their permission. It doesn't matter to Microsoft if it'll actually work.
But that would upset Pacman and you don't want to upset Pacman, do you?
Remove the update manager? Remove the bootloader and all kernels if you want to - you might if you're preparing a container image, it won't stop you. Remove glibc and init? Fine, if that's what you want - might have no need for those if you're prepping it up for embedded.
The price of having a computer that does exactly what it's told is that you have to know what to tell it. But that's well worth while.
And when you feel really adventurous….
You can delete the kernel….
Everybody does it at least once, just to see. Usually it’s just to see. MS support reps still learning the power of grep …. “Where are the backups” is both a question you want to hear … and really don’t want to hear. (At the start, it says they’re… at least thorough… an hour to the end of the patch window… not so much.)
We're approximately the same vintage; I bought a laptop with Windows 8.1 and, long story short, said "Absolutely not."
My next gaming PC's gonna be Linux.
Yup, me too. Gonna upgrade next year and I've had enough shit from MS.
I just made the switch, way smoother than I expected
Congrats. That's a pretty nice piece of hardware; although, I thought Nintendo made it.
Ha had to reread my messages a few times 😂
Hope you don't play anything that uses Windows kernel-level anticheat 🫠
Fuck any game that does
I mean for sure but I play games with my nephews so for me dual booting Windows is worth it, and it's certainly something to consider when deciding how you're gonna set up your system, as much as that sucks.
I hope it'll change on games that do, or they'll set up a workaround for Linux, but for now if you care about a game that uses it, ysk beforehand so that you can decide whether to dump that game or dual boot.
But don't you want to have what I've come to enjoy: Printer roulette?
Win, "printer", enter.......come on Printer and Scanner control panel, baby wants a new printer queue to kill that stuck job......dammit edge, no I don't want to search bing for an inkjet.
Win, "printer"...., enter.......come on Control Panel, you can do it......HP Smart Panel, you piece of crap
It amazes me that print management continues to be so spectacularly bad in Windows. It's been terrible since my first days using Win 3.1 and it has never gotten better.
This won't fix your app roulette problem, but you should be able to disable searching the web with the search bar in group policy
As long as you have a Pro version. Home versions of Windows have Group Policy Editor disabled.
Ok good so I'm not the only one!
Use power toys search, it's so much better. Fuck windows on general
Windows, on my work computer, decided Monday morning was a good time to turn my default pdf reader to Microsoft Edging. Turns out you can't delete Edging from add or remove programs.
ah i got that too!! I thought it was because monday i updated foxit reader and then for some reason it gave back the default to edge! Instead it was edge that took it back by force without my consent!
They are edging you without consent.
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Ooh microshaft, noo stop
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That's a name I haven't heard in a long time. I didn't realise it was still around!
i'm up to using any alternative that isn't adobe or edge as my default :)
I tried sumatrapdf but while was extremely fast to start, it was too "simple" for me, i need better printing support
i don't really like foxit reader, they try to push a demo install of the pro version on each update
You should try Okular. It's on the Microsoft Store.
That looks nice, I remember that from the time I tried kubuntu
Doesn't Okular depend on KDE Frameworks? Didn't know they can run on Шindows.
Search for 'change default apps' and move it back to your favorite program, or right click the pdf -> properties -> change program
Thanks but I fixed it. I do appreciate you mentioning this in case others encounter it.
Just you know, I shouldn't have to do it. I don't need Microsoft to help me with edging.
Same here
Welcome to Windows update. Where they revert any settings you make to the OS that won't benefit them.
really looking forward to getting another SSD and just installing linux on it so I don't have to deal with that kind of bullshit anymore. The bullshit I will be dealing with will not be privacy related, just compatibility related.
Do it. I did that a year ago. Totally worth it.
which distro do you recommend for gaming? I'm looking at fedora games, drauger OS or Pop_OS
I cannot strongly recommend enough pop_os. For reference, it was my last distro of choice, but its been my all time favorite out of 10+ I've tried in 2 years
sounds promising! thanks!
Wasn't really in the market for a new one but guess I'll be checking it out now n
My gaming rig is running Nobara Project right now and I'd highly recommend it for gaming centric use.
I set up a test rig with Fedora to see how the gaming went and didn't have any issues with Steam or a handful of AAA games. Of note though, my test machine has an AMD GPU so I didn't have to deal with any Nvidia driver shenanigans.
That's probably the best way to try it. First get comfy and still have a fallback solution if you don't like it.
When using Microsoft products and accepting their incomprehensible terms and conditions, you have no say and your opinion doesn't matter.
Group policy doesn't matter, domain administrator, GPO rules, all of it- none of it matters.
You'll get dogshit and you will like it. (Friendly reminder that it was extremely overpriced also) That's the tax you pay for being in their horrible, horrible "ecosystem" from hell. Enjoy! Grease up or take it dry, you're "taking it" either way.
Let's also not forget the update also installed fucking edge again even with registry keys telling it not to. Fuck Microsoft.
Wait ... I can remove Edge?
That bloated pile of trash needs to die.
Yeah use this, follow the directions:
https://gist.github.com/ave9858/c3451d9f452389ac7607c99d45edecc6
Then clean up remnants with Bulk Crap Uninstaller. https://www.bcuninstaller.com/
If it still persists as a last ditch resort, use: https://github.com/ShadowWhisperer/Remove-MS-Edge
^This finally did it for me. The latest update didn't allow my uninstall value key to uninstall it, but his stuff force uninstalled it finally.
BCU is exactly what I’ve been looking for!
PC people: Many of you are now realizing what “Windows as a Service” means. Your OS is harvesting every bit of your data and sending it back to the MS Mothership.
And you’re kind enough to pony up the cash to supply the hardware for it to run on.
Doesn't detract from the point whatsoever. Exactly what the Linux fanboys were always made fun of for is what's happening. It's heading exactly where Stallman has always warned. (Edit: I'd argue it's already arrived, actually.)
What they're made fun of for is never shutting up about how superior they are.
i mean at this point it's more of a collective disbelief that people continue to punch themselves in the stomach when it's perfectly possible to simply not do so
OK.
Which is funny because the original comment doesn't mention Linux or Arch at all.
I use arch btw
yup it's true
"Using Gentoo on 4 different architectures" bar is not here because other bars would be invisible if it was.
Honestly not sure we should be referring to windows as a PC OS anymore, Microsoft changing settings without your permission doesn't sound like something that should happen on a Personal computer...
See that’s the elephant in the room: you think it’s your personal computer. Microsoft thinks it’s their personal computer.
Remove the word personal and that's what I always used to hear about apple, and you know what? Microsoft is becoming more and more like apple every day
If you install windows its a microsoft computer with limited access granted to you. very generous.
The difference between a PC and a console is how open source the OS is
These days it's hard to argue with that, windows used to actually let you control the computer... But those days are long gone
Good thing I love using linux!
I wanna make the jump to Linux. I worry about it but maybe there's a good video tutorial somewhere on it.
One thing that you should understand first, most of the time linux tutorials involve the terminal, that's becouse for a lot of linux users it's faster and easier to do things that way, on the other hand usually there is a GUI based way to do those things as well (depending on what desktop environment you're using it can be more or less likely)
Terminal is no more necessary than command prompt/power shell
It’s rare that steam deck or android users use it
It's something you should just try and not worry too much about. If things go wrong you can always go back to windows.
The Kingdom of Torvalds beckons.
I use Linux for my daily driver. It has really come a long way even in the last five years, but especially compared to 10-15 years ago. For the most part, stuff just works out of the box.
My ONLY beef is that many of the games I play (Civ 5, Banished, Sins of a Solar Empire, Frostpunk) are not stable and/or have performance issues under Linux, so I occasionally need to boot into Windows. For example Civ 5 works great until around 20 turns in when the lag between turns grows unbearable. That really sucks in multiplayer.
I am so blessed that all the games I want to play run great or at least fine on Linux. I wouldn't want to have to go back to Windows.
Yeah I just want to be clear -- Linux has come a LONG way with gaming. If anyone tried it a few years ago and just gave up in frustration, give it another try now. It is MASSIVELY better.
So it wasnt just me that got the bar renabled
The funniest thing is that people complain about Windows, but at the same time are afraid of switching to Linux. Linux has improved so much over the years that it is capable of doing most of the same things as Windows can do (and I don't mean restoring the search bar every update)
I think for most people, including myself, it seems daunting. Especially since I've used this environment for close to thirty years. Additionally, I don't have money to buy extra hardware to experiment with.
A dual boot setup doesn't require any extra hardware. Hell, you can run some Linux distros directly from a USB drive if all you want to do is play with it and try to learn some things.
You took the words out of my mouth 😅
My switching to Linux felt a lot like the transition from Windows 95 to XP, or XP to 7. Linux Mint genuinely felt more familiar to me than Windows 8 did. You can try out Linux, learn about it, experiment with it, in VirtualBox. Install a Linux machine in a file right on your Windows machine. I think it's wroth at least trying out.
The enshittification of Windows continues apace.
Me running ClassicShell/OpenShell since Windows 8:
Why bother with group policy? You can disable it by just right clicking on the task bar and customizing it.
it's a domain joined account, in this way it gets disabled immediately after every new install
Yup. I just re-started since it had been quite few days since my laptop had a reboot and boom I was shown this.
Like c'mon, even LTSC is Targetted with such BS, then I'm not sure wtf is going with W11.
I just spent more than an hour fixing this shit, everyone was right. It forced search bar on LTSC also. Which I thought was against Windows 10 LTSC policies for Enterprise editions? Or at least, against it's very core functions? lol
I was pissed a month ago when they installed cloud backup bloatware.
Can you imagine? Me giving them MY entire hard drive, for FREE?! And as part of the Windows Experience Package it cannot be uninstalled or disabled, all I can do is block with in the Firewall Rules.
O&O shutup 10, get it and use it, you'll love your windows machine once you disable the bullshit
Love is a strong word. Hate it less is more accurate.
That being said, Shut Up 10 is great.
Windows is actually really good, you just have to know how to work with it.
You CAN have a lot of control over it. Not as much as your average linux distro, but still a lot more than any MAC.
Apple devices have started going through their user's personal files as invasively as google does.
https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
Is the source code available for that anywhere? I wasn't able to find it after a quick look over the website.
Yeah, same shit happened on my (W10) laptop today (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
Luckily, I rarely have to deal with this shit since I daily drive Fedora on my desktop PC, and only dual-boot into W11 when I want to play games on Game Pass.
I don't even use the built in taskbar anymore, I always put mine up top and windows 11 broke that functionality so I'm using some other taskbar replacement
If you have no choice but to use Windows download Microsoft 10 LTSC iot, lock down all policies and use Shutup10 and WPD to remove all telemetry. Blackbird can also block specific Windows 10 addresses that phone home but it's better to just get a third party firewall and block them because Blackbird can sometimes break things.
I also was able to remove Microsoft EDGE forever using this. Follow the steps exactly:
https://gist.github.com/ave9858/c3451d9f452389ac7607c99d45edecc6#file-uninstalledge-ps1
If an update you want forces edge back then just follow the steps again. If Edge "remnants" remain, use bulk crap uninstaller on any leftovers.
I've never had the search bar return or anything I didn't want to return on a locked down Windows 10 LTSC installation except Edge, and that's easy to remove. You can even turn off updates for a while if you want to, but I still update because you should.
If you have hardware that needs Windows 11, they're releasing an LTSC version of that, too soon.
And some people say Linux is the difficult one.
Even without any network connection at all, windows update will quietly revert system changes it doesn't like. You can go in as a trusted installer or whatever the highest user space auth is called these days, completely remove the execute permissions to windows system binaries, power down the system, and when you turn it back on again there's a chance that the permissions will revert.
At this point it is honestly a bit of a miracle that the windows update layer hasn't been hijacked for malware. Or maybe it has and we have no way of knowing.
Windows itself is malware
Ah yes. When your operating and spyware are the same thing.
That's a lot of work to get the OS to work for you. If only there was another option...
Yeah, I know. Linux. If it's working with all games and programs now, then that sounds good to me.
As someone running a windows 10 update right now that I procrastinated to let install I am now having a bad day already. Can't wait for this to happen to my pc!
Update: Exactly that happened, yay
Thank you for the update (-:
So that's what happened. Thought I just mashed buttons weirdly at some point and caused it.
Got the same message this morning. At least in the message is a button to roll back the unvoluntary change.
Windows: You will use Bing. Resistance is futile.
the only reason I'm still using windows is for my simulators and race sims and better setup compatibility. X-Plane works on Linux but even though the flight model is better on X-plane the sounds and graphics of Microsoft Flight sim it's hard to go back. I say this because I actually need them for my work. other than that Linux all the way.
Is it hard to get two monitors running on Arch w/ i3wm? I can't really read another bullshit thing about microsoft again and thats all I am worried about for the switch.
I haven't used i3 but I'd be surprised if it was that hard since it works out of the box on Gnome, KDE, Cinnamon, and xfce in my experience.
Yes. Easy as (if not easier than) Windows, I'd argue.
I'd like to thank you all for your responses and for shifting my fear into inspiration.
Hey, I used to use that before switching to sway a few years ago. It isn't hard at all: There is not a single line in my config concerned with monitors, it just works by default.
I've moved to Arch like a month ago, first installed i3, I think you'll only need xrandr and setup some hooks that set/reset xrandr on the screen plug/unplug, if you ALWAYS have two screens plugged in, you can execute xrandr on X startup and that's all about it
Why is Arch with i3wm the only alternative to Windows? There are many other distros and desktop environments.
I am not saying that. Thats what my laptop and uploaded config on github is for is all.
No
Was pretty easy to setup in Manjaro a year ago. Can't say how it is now, I'm using hyprland now.
Manjaro is pretty fire and forget now. It's what I'm running currently. The install is fully guided and newbie friendly.
What language is this?
And what am I missing?
italian, it says "we added back the search bar on the taskbar, keep or cancel?" If you click anywhere else except the grey "annulla" button, for example you click on the desktop, it assumes "yes i love the search bar, keep it", and is set back to the state microsoft wanted to be.
From an update downloaded last night
Thank you.
Google says it's Italian.
Is it? 🤌🤌
Why all my window machines use ltsc fucking "feature" updates