Your source admits Spez was a jailbait mod. MAYBE he was made one without knowing, but he DEFINITELY could have removed himself and didn’t.
Spez was a jailbait mod for years. That’s a fact.
btw I actually might be helping you attack him better
Instead of a spurious claim he actively managed a pedo sub—
—a more definite claim he permitted a pedo sub to remain on his site? (Assuming he was aware of the sub, which I bet you could find indications of)
a more definite claim he permitted a pedo sub to remain on his site? (Assuming he was aware of the sub, which I bet you could find indications of)
He has repeatedly permitted awful subs (jailbait, altright, the_donald, incels, braincels, etc) to remain on the site far longer than reasonable. Once these subs generated too much negative press they would finally be banned.
lol I doxxed one of the_donald mods to the FBI after Jan 6th, they used to advertise and gloat about a bunch of their "business" stuff on the site, and registered their LLC to their home address. Clicked on a link they shared, highighted and searched the LLC on Google, clicked on registered address and streetview and there's a shitty car plastered in Trump stickers in the driveway. Never doxxed them anywhere publicly or did anything bad with their addy until I had a legit purpose for it.
Fucking legend.
It amazes me how plain idiotic people can be a out the information they hand out.
Tldr: fuck executives
I have insomnia and Recently I was rudely awoken at around 2am by a VERY loud jet engine.
Now my county does have an airport, but it's nowhere near me, and it's for small aircraft only. There's a military base that uses a huge section of the state for training, but that's almost exclusively in the daylight, or for a few hours after it gets dark, and they never get this close.
Well, I pulled up flightradar, and sure enough a small personal jet took offa out 10 minutes ago, and while their flight plan should have had them mucb higher, they were veryclose to the ground. I called the sheriff non emergency line to complain, since it was 2 IN THE FUCKING MORNING and apparently they had already recieved a number of calls from people between me and the airport.
Then I looked up the company that owns the jet. It's a smallish company that does aero things, and pulls in tons of money every year. Public, private, and military contracting from what I understood, supplying parts or something like that.
Their board of directors is listed on their website along with corporate HQ. Their board of directors also ALL use LinkedIn, with their work addresses, emails, PERSONAL email addresses for quite a few, and one even had some personal mail visible to anyone who stops by their profile picture. Almost all had other social media connected. LinkedIn was also helpful in identifying who was probably flying the jet, too, since he really likes talking about his pilot license.
Social media confirms a few were active within the last hour, and in my state.
With this info, the flight plan, the LinkedIn info, and a little guesswork, I was able to narrow down the occupants of the jet to 5 people, BCCd all their work and personal emails, as well as the general company email, with a 5 paragraph email about proper etiquette when flying over populated areas, as well as FAA laws they were breaking by flying so low, a rather sleep deprived rant about how they're assholes who think the world should come to a halt for them, letting them know local sheriff department is investigating (lol no the fuck they aren't who cares if a few people got woken up), and that I am reporting their violations to the FAA. And ended it with a request to follow proper altitude guides or flying at a more reasonable hour.
And around 5am I was finally able to sleep for all of one hour.
When I woke up it dawned on me that I had gotten annoyed by a jet, tracked down the occupants, and sent them an angry personal email, found out their home/work addresses, and could do much more damage if I wanted, all without leaving the comfort of my bed.
I immediately started scrubbing all my online profiles... I still probably talk too much about the area I live in.
Don't forget about beating women, a subreddit when user shared pictures of women victims of domestic violence to their amusement.
Guess asking for login work because I don't want to bother to watch that.
Maybe he was made one without him knowing…
He could have removed himself immediately upon noticing…
Source for the fact he noticed?
Ewww I’m defending Spez
As an engineer myself: if I was ceo of my own social media company, I’d periodically go through my account at a fine-grained level and see if there was anything weird going on. Hell, I’d probably use some internal APIs and webhooks or whatever to track and categorize my profile’s interaction with the network at large.
I find it unlikely that he had no idea about this.
Fair point!
I'm pretty sure I remember spez making a special reddit award for the wierdo fuck that created jailbait.
Source?
Considering that Spez is the one who controls the mod logs, he could show that he was made a mod instead of invited/accepted and was inactive. I don’t have access to the evidence. Spez does.
Brushing up on the “proven ways Spez sux” file would surely provide more than enough back-pocket fodder to pull out when there’s a chance to drag him :)
I’m a stickler for stuff like this, e.g. someone complains about mythical reasons corporations or governments are against us and I wonder… why risk opponents being able to prove conspiracy theories wrong and distract from legitimately awful/criminal behavior! There’s so much of it!
He literally directly edited comments criticizing him to point to r/The_Donald mods(About 2014-2015-2016, this was news around that time).
Everything from that time period on that related subreddit has been scorched Earth removed from the net. So I'm not sure even Spez has a record of it. Hell. The Anderson Cooper bit about it is even gone.
I doubt law enforcement would allow records from r/jailbait to be scrubbed completely, especially mod logs and mod chats. That’s a source of evidence to build cases against predators, even years later.
Of the three people involved in Reddit's creation, he was the most useless and antithetical to reddit's greater vision.
Swartz was a far better person.
Those are always the guys that wrest control though. They have no contributions, so instead they spend their time scheming.
That goes for most sub culture. A new thing pops up, comics, tabletops, internet thing. It slowly gets popular. At it's zenith some wise guy realize he can make a quick buck out of it, wrestles control over it. more people show up less informed but still keen to try it out. Leaves the old guards behind.
Aaron Swartz, the internet's own boy.
You know, I realize all the people who put in money want a return on their investment. I get it.
But what I can't forgive is killing 3rd party clients when your official client sucks all the donkey balls in every reality in every universe.
You couldn't come to a reasonable and sane fee for 3rd party clients? Barring that, you couldn't just buy a superior client like RiF and bolt your name on it?
Fuck Spez.
They did buy a superior client. Alien Blue it was called. Then internal politics killed it. Even today Alien Blue would still be a better experience, without any updates in the last five years.
This is what always got to me that I don't think people focus on enough. It's such an anti-consumer pattern. Instead of improving the official reddit app, or buying out a third party one, they simply shot the competition in the knees.
If you want everyone on the official app, be competitive and invest into making it not suck donkey balls. Obviously that's far too much work.
There are a hundred different ways they could have reached a compromise on third party app support if it was just about API limits. They killed it because they want to gather mobile app telemetry like everyone else does these days.
Telemetry is telling them their app sucks and that people try it x period of time and then uninstall it.
It is so terrible that I log into reddit once a week on my pc.
All that costs time, money and resources whereas flatput lying and fucking people over is cheap. You calculate how much you'll lose, see that it's enormously bad qualitatively but you won't lose too many visitors because most people don't give a fuck so you go with it.
RwF
That's the thing. I get that people using the service on a third party client and not seeing ads is hurting their bottom line as they use bandwidth and not make money. But just banning them outright is a shit move. Ideally they would've made it part of Reddit Premium to make that a bit more worthwhile.
You know, I realize that some people run a dictatorship and only want absolute obedience, I totally get that, that's totally a gettable thing for me, that's not weird at all.
I’m sure their next “Reddit Event” will not have a real time chat.
I bet you are right lol
Aww, you hurt their delicate fee-fees! How mean! /s
Also, lol at that pathetic sycophant's reply below your comment. Dude needs to stop twerking for spez.
There were many like that, lol!
Who is that comment even aimed at? Being that it is right under OP's comment in (what I presume to be) a busy chat, I doubt it is a response to OP.
Good point.
I doubt they have delicate fee fees or feel feels or whatever. I don't care whether they even care that I was banned, all I know is my ban from Reddit is a badge of honor and proves I can get under other people's skin. You always know you're telling the truth when it makes people angry enough to ban you.
Reddit has become Facebook with a different management team. These people are motivated by profit and that's the only way their decisions make any kind of sense. Whenever we mix the profit motive with a service for people, the people will always play second fiddle. It's why mixing profit with healthcare is inhumane and it's what's so great about Wikipedia.
i'm of another notion, i think its more about controlling public space for discourse itself than it is about profit.. they want to sever access to whatever they might consider subversive dialogue and control the next generation's access to it.
A lot of things in life are not this heavily conspiratorial...
$3 dollar words make it seem like it's real complicated. plain greed and middle management stunts
Occam’s Razor.
The only thing that matters is profits. Those profits come from advertising. The businesses doing the advertising do not want their brands associated with things that are controversial or offensive to the general public.
Therefore Reddit is bending to their will.
Because profits.
No conspiracy necessary.
🫡 thank you for your service 🫡
It was an honor, sir!
u/Ademir… A Lemming on a mission with a swagger that will set the world at ease…
So...what exactly was this event? Was it like a AMA? Or was it like one of those corporate circle jerk things where everyone says what they are supposed to say?
If I’m guessing correctly, it’s a modcon, which makes it even more pathetic for mods to attend an event hosted by the very people who have given them grief this past few months, just so they can feel special with their own exclusive event.
Yes, that's what it was. I went in just to mess when Spez was gonna talk.
Yeah no worries, I wasn’t pertaining to you. lol.
I didn't take that personally, all good. Just wanted to confirm what you said :)
Is there a difference between the latter and a typical spez ama?
Last time I saw one of his AMA, it was just a wall of deleted comments.
I got banned because I said "lemmy dot world" in reply to someone who said they wished reddit had an alternative.
We must all remember spez’ has an abnormal love of cats, among his other issues. Like keeping slaves and resource hoarding.
Yeah redditors can do that too, it would probably look somewhat like this:
Come to reddit, we have CEO who's an idiot but controls everything, a 100% closed API unless you pay exorbitant prices to use it, and we have advertisements everywhere, but WE NEED TO MAKE MONEY. So please come. We also have sociophants and trolls.
/Steve Huffman
He asked to forgiven him because of the API thing LOL
We need details, please.
I wasn't paying much attention, I asked a friend for the details and will let you know.
lol you fucking legend.
If he doesn't want to accept dissenting opinions, he should do like Mr. Burns and only allow prefabricated text.
Lisa: "Mr. Burns your campaign seems to have the momentum of a run away freight train. Why are you so popular?"
He allowed dissenting opinions when he let jailbait be one of the most popular subs lol
My lifetime ban from Reddit (which resulted from saying that we need a more progressive political candidates in our country) was a badge of honor, proving my opinions to be correct and undigestible to fascists. So I had a medallion engraved with my date of expulsion which I keep in a place of honor over my fireplace.
My permaban was for saying it is a moral obligation to punch nazis lmao
Mine was for saying that Nazi’s were a part in a war from 70 years ago, and that they should be dead now.
Mine was for "report abuse" for reporting misinformation in r/conservative.
Ayy I got one of those for that dumbass antivax subreddit lol
I am convinced there is no human behind the suspensions and the moderators reporting those who report will have you banned irrespective of merit. Such a nice environment
I actually got banned from Facebook for posting about getting sick on my birthday, saying I hated being sick on my birthday. They replied it was "hate speech" and so I was banned for a week (!).
Well of course spez was gonna take that personally haha
Being banned from somewhere doesn't prove you right or wrong. It just means those particular people are angry at you, rightfully or not.
Just a subtle reminder because fascists and nazis themselves regularly use such kinds of phrases. Doesn't make them any more right or honorable.
Do what is right, and always strive for freedom, and you'll be good :)
My ban from Reddit proves I was right - you know you're right when it makes any group angry enough to ban you. In the same way, books are truthful when they get banned for daring to speak the truth.
I always do the left thing (not the right) and achieve my freedom by not staying quiet or bowing down to fascists.
you know you're right when it makes any group angry enough to ban you.
Not really. If you say Hitler was right, or any of the myriad of other terrible statements you could make, and you get permabanned for it, you're still wrong.
The difference is, those statements "Hitler was right" or any other kind of mentally ill belief are by all universal standards immoral and wrong. They don't get banned for being truthful at all, but for being morally reprehensible. I was banned for being morally above and beyond what Reddit can claim as moral standards.
You miss the important part.
You ARE right, and you should fight for the truth, and not bow to anyone, but the mere fact that you were banned isn't proof of anything.
People calling for genocide get banned. Outright nazis get banned, even while they try to move the gate. Many terrible people do get banned. Doesn't make them any more right. One can just be too stubborn to make reasoning impossible.
"I was banned thereby I'm right" is a very dangerous idea that often fuels your - and our - enemies and blinds them to the reason. It serves nothing but radicalization, for the right or, very often, for the wrong.
Saying those things validates the ideas that end up turning against you - and against the reason and the truth.
No I'm not missing your point at all, I get it, I simply don't agree with it. My ban from Reddit proves I was right in bright neon lights. Because Reddit is going backwards and devolving into the lowest form of human sewage - fascism.
Yes people calling for genocide should be banned and nazis and homophobes and other degenerates as well - but not because what they are saying has any modicum of truth to it, just the opposite. They get banned because of being horribly wrong, and unable to perceive the difference between reality and mental delusion.
So I'm not entirely at odds with your viewpoint, I'm only saying that more myself in this one particular instance, my ban was proof of the veracity of my statements.
For Reddit fascists, you are banned because of being horribly wrong.
It's very easy to say "they were banned for being wrong, I was banned for being right", but ain't that double standard?
You were banned not for being right, but for saying something that fell out of Reddit guidelines - which can be skewed and fucked up, but it wasn't you being a messiah and them trying to cover everyone from the truth and light you're spreading.
I suppose it is a double standard, but my viewpoint was correct and actually was not outside of their guidelines, which I pointed out in my response to them wherein I called them fascist scum and (various other terms I won't use here).
And I am a messiah, I am that I am. I am the great "I Am." And all who contradict me are as dead to me as the dust of arid desert lands.
Don't forget, he used to moderate r/jailbait.
Heard this is a myth but by all means continue to propagate this rumor 🥳
If i recall, at the time sub owners could designate anyone as a moderator without them having to accept the position, meaning that its very possible he was made a mod of the subreddit as a joke/troll but never actually interacted with it.
Hes still a dipshit though
Yep. Zach Braff's AMA account was made a moderator for a bunch of hardcore porn subs. Probably still is.
You would still expect better from a site's founder than an actor who probably still had a Hotmail account at the time
Correct. Early reddit you could add whoever you wanted as a mod to your subreddits, no invites required. This changed after a crab bucket subreddit was created and got up to several hundred mods re-adding anyone who left.
At this point, it doesn't matter. Everyone thinks he's a douchebag now.
He is clearly steeped in 2000s chan culture, and jb was a big part of it at that time. It's a big part of the reason I stopped using 4chan, because it got to the point where there was too much chance of randomly coming across that shit. Reading between the lines, it's very likely that he's a fucking pedo.
Spez has like a bunch of fore written answers and then tries to fit them in the questions asked
-TitusRex, hero, probably banned now as well
lmao
Screw Reddit and spez. You did well, OP!
He did a talk and Q&A in England awhile back at I believe Oxford and he kept checking his watch, it just seemed rude.
It was probably a smart watch where he read what to answer
he was a competitive ballroom dancer, who hacked his roommate’s Web site as a prank.
What a fun little image that conjures up.
Worth it. It's a win/win really
You a real one bruh!
Hey! Thanks!
Btw Berserk rocks!
I hadn't thought about it until now but what do redditors who didn't migrate say about us? I'm really curious now but I don't want to look. I've only been on the site a couple times since the blackout and they were for specific reasons * I don't want to ruin my streak * . Does anyone here use both regularly?
*Edit
From the place I still use as they didn't move, I haven't seen a single mentioning of Lemmy, fedivers, black out or anything close. Makes sense as those communities didn't even try moving.
In one of the subs I did notice a quality decline and it moving a bit from, people talking about shared experiences with a medical condition, to being babys first experience with medical condition, but it has moved back even so slightly, but the average age seems to have gone down.
The other one for a game. I can proudly say is just as low quality as before, but I stick around to give tech support, even if it of the absolute most basic nature sometimes, and keep up with updates, bugs and community fixes.
Wow, that last sentence makes you a saint.
Thank you.
From what I can tell a lot of the people there who are even aware of it think of Lemmy as inactive and irrelevant and the protests as an embarrassing failure.
the protests were an embarrassing failure but lemmy isn't
Hell yeah this is great, especially if it is done in a cheeky way like you are poking the bear a little bit while also genuinely inviting people to try the fediverse out.
And that was the comment with more "likes" 👍
I saw it getting one more thumbs up after the screenshot
Grande Ademir, melhor admin da melhor comunidade de lemmy.
To everyone else, come to lemmy.eco.br (or to Brazil)!!
Brasil numero 1 Penta Campeão!
Tamo junto, meu considerado! E aquele problema com o docker? Conseguiu superar?
Po, valeu por me deixar nos seus pensamentos kkkkkkkkk
No fim o problema continua, mas as permissões se ajustaram, então tudo bem :)
hahaha tmj
Eu sei como é passar apuro com essas coisas. Eu sinto a dor do colega :P
You are the people's champ.
Some of those that run corporates...
#PunchSpezsrslurredlittleface
That face insists upon itself.
Oh I get some kind of urge, definitely.
This is the greatest thing I could have seen on the top of my page 😂 Keep spreading the word Lemmings!!
Good job hero
lol thanks
Spez has that empty stare of a person who knows the devil is about to collect
Worth it
What was this event, and how did you manage to get your username showing without /u?
It was a modcon sort of thing. Anyone could edit their name and add a pic.
Lmao
He looks exactly how I pictured it.
I don't understand. Why did you get banned?
Because I advertised Lemmy in front of Reddit CEO
Ooohh I see it. Apologies. I don’t know how I missed it.
No worries
What is up with Mr. Nosferatu hands in the little corner picture?
Sign language interpreter, presumably
Based and anti-corpo pilled
🗿
o7
Oh god, that was cringey. Please, if you want to dunk on spez, or play to the camera in other ways, please write like you passed the 4th grade.
Spamming a live chat is just being a nuisance. Nobody's been annoyed into listening to a spammer.
From the image, I don't see how this was spamming, though.
We can't see much of anything. The image shows all of 4 comments. But I can guess, considering the all capital username and copy-paste format - I would bet money that they posted that same thing over and over again. Also, I know this platform is understandably anti-Reddit, but I really doubt they're banning people for a single comment about Lemmy.
I can confirm while I like the message they did spam it.
Nobody’s been annoyed into listening to a spammer.
It was just the comment with most "thumbs up" while I was there LOL.
i can imagine an infinite number of live chats where spamming as a nuisance is positive. spez, scientology, MLMs, i don't even have to be political
I'm not defending the Spez stream. I'm saying spamming a chat with JOINLEMMY is just going to make Lemmy look bad and associate it to new people as an annoyance rather an interesting alternative.
agreed
To be fair, I would imagine that this event had some rule about not advertising in the chat in the ToS or stream rules fine print somewhere.
And as much as I dislike Steve and Reddit, I agree with Reddit on this one. You (or anyone else) shouldn't be abusing the chat of a competing service stream to advertise a different one. It is not the place for that and is rude. Please do not give existing Reddit users reason to believe all Lemmy users are rude rule breakers.
I am not complaining. I was there to make fun of Spez and I don't care if I was rude. If they think Lemmy users are any different than Reddit users they are delusional. There is all types of users here and there.
Lol at the sign-language interpreter, like Reddit gives half a shit about accessibility now.
Sign language yes, real time captions no. Only whatever live transcription crap your phone or computer could do
I recognize that guy. He was a moderator of the r/jailbait subreddit for the many, many years it was hosted on Reddit.com.
Is that true? Holy moly!
Consensus: FALSE
Your source admits Spez was a jailbait mod. MAYBE he was made one without knowing, but he DEFINITELY could have removed himself and didn’t.
Spez was a jailbait mod for years. That’s a fact.
btw I actually might be helping you attack him better
Instead of a spurious claim he actively managed a pedo sub—
—a more definite claim he permitted a pedo sub to remain on his site? (Assuming he was aware of the sub, which I bet you could find indications of)
He has repeatedly permitted awful subs (jailbait, altright, the_donald, incels, braincels, etc) to remain on the site far longer than reasonable. Once these subs generated too much negative press they would finally be banned.
lol I doxxed one of the_donald mods to the FBI after Jan 6th, they used to advertise and gloat about a bunch of their "business" stuff on the site, and registered their LLC to their home address. Clicked on a link they shared, highighted and searched the LLC on Google, clicked on registered address and streetview and there's a shitty car plastered in Trump stickers in the driveway. Never doxxed them anywhere publicly or did anything bad with their addy until I had a legit purpose for it.
Fucking legend.
It amazes me how plain idiotic people can be a out the information they hand out.
Tldr: fuck executives
I have insomnia and Recently I was rudely awoken at around 2am by a VERY loud jet engine.
Now my county does have an airport, but it's nowhere near me, and it's for small aircraft only. There's a military base that uses a huge section of the state for training, but that's almost exclusively in the daylight, or for a few hours after it gets dark, and they never get this close.
Well, I pulled up flightradar, and sure enough a small personal jet took offa out 10 minutes ago, and while their flight plan should have had them mucb higher, they were veryclose to the ground. I called the sheriff non emergency line to complain, since it was 2 IN THE FUCKING MORNING and apparently they had already recieved a number of calls from people between me and the airport.
Then I looked up the company that owns the jet. It's a smallish company that does aero things, and pulls in tons of money every year. Public, private, and military contracting from what I understood, supplying parts or something like that.
Their board of directors is listed on their website along with corporate HQ. Their board of directors also ALL use LinkedIn, with their work addresses, emails, PERSONAL email addresses for quite a few, and one even had some personal mail visible to anyone who stops by their profile picture. Almost all had other social media connected. LinkedIn was also helpful in identifying who was probably flying the jet, too, since he really likes talking about his pilot license.
Social media confirms a few were active within the last hour, and in my state.
With this info, the flight plan, the LinkedIn info, and a little guesswork, I was able to narrow down the occupants of the jet to 5 people, BCCd all their work and personal emails, as well as the general company email, with a 5 paragraph email about proper etiquette when flying over populated areas, as well as FAA laws they were breaking by flying so low, a rather sleep deprived rant about how they're assholes who think the world should come to a halt for them, letting them know local sheriff department is investigating (lol no the fuck they aren't who cares if a few people got woken up), and that I am reporting their violations to the FAA. And ended it with a request to follow proper altitude guides or flying at a more reasonable hour.
And around 5am I was finally able to sleep for all of one hour.
When I woke up it dawned on me that I had gotten annoyed by a jet, tracked down the occupants, and sent them an angry personal email, found out their home/work addresses, and could do much more damage if I wanted, all without leaving the comfort of my bed.
I immediately started scrubbing all my online profiles... I still probably talk too much about the area I live in.
Don't forget about beating women, a subreddit when user shared pictures of women victims of domestic violence to their amusement.
https://www.reddit.com/r/wowthissubexists/comments/28ozop/rcutefemalecorpses_just_wtf/
Guess asking for login work because I don't want to bother to watch that.
Maybe he was made one without him knowing…
He could have removed himself immediately upon noticing…
Source for the fact he noticed?
Ewww I’m defending Spez
As an engineer myself: if I was ceo of my own social media company, I’d periodically go through my account at a fine-grained level and see if there was anything weird going on. Hell, I’d probably use some internal APIs and webhooks or whatever to track and categorize my profile’s interaction with the network at large.
I find it unlikely that he had no idea about this.
Fair point!
I'm pretty sure I remember spez making a special reddit award for the wierdo fuck that created jailbait.
Source?
Considering that Spez is the one who controls the mod logs, he could show that he was made a mod instead of invited/accepted and was inactive. I don’t have access to the evidence. Spez does.
Brushing up on the “proven ways Spez sux” file would surely provide more than enough back-pocket fodder to pull out when there’s a chance to drag him :)
I’m a stickler for stuff like this, e.g. someone complains about mythical reasons corporations or governments are against us and I wonder… why risk opponents being able to prove conspiracy theories wrong and distract from legitimately awful/criminal behavior! There’s so much of it!
He literally directly edited comments criticizing him to point to r/The_Donald mods(About 2014-2015-2016, this was news around that time).
Everything from that time period on that related subreddit has been scorched Earth removed from the net. So I'm not sure even Spez has a record of it. Hell. The Anderson Cooper bit about it is even gone.
I doubt law enforcement would allow records from r/jailbait to be scrubbed completely, especially mod logs and mod chats. That’s a source of evidence to build cases against predators, even years later.
Thanks
Source? See
Of the three people involved in Reddit's creation, he was the most useless and antithetical to reddit's greater vision.
Swartz was a far better person.
Those are always the guys that wrest control though. They have no contributions, so instead they spend their time scheming.
That goes for most sub culture. A new thing pops up, comics, tabletops, internet thing. It slowly gets popular. At it's zenith some wise guy realize he can make a quick buck out of it, wrestles control over it. more people show up less informed but still keen to try it out. Leaves the old guards behind.
Aaron Swartz, the internet's own boy.
You know, I realize all the people who put in money want a return on their investment. I get it.
But what I can't forgive is killing 3rd party clients when your official client sucks all the donkey balls in every reality in every universe.
You couldn't come to a reasonable and sane fee for 3rd party clients? Barring that, you couldn't just buy a superior client like RiF and bolt your name on it?
Fuck Spez.
They did buy a superior client. Alien Blue it was called. Then internal politics killed it. Even today Alien Blue would still be a better experience, without any updates in the last five years.
This is what always got to me that I don't think people focus on enough. It's such an anti-consumer pattern. Instead of improving the official reddit app, or buying out a third party one, they simply shot the competition in the knees.
If you want everyone on the official app, be competitive and invest into making it not suck donkey balls. Obviously that's far too much work.
There are a hundred different ways they could have reached a compromise on third party app support if it was just about API limits. They killed it because they want to gather mobile app telemetry like everyone else does these days.
Telemetry is telling them their app sucks and that people try it x period of time and then uninstall it.
It is so terrible that I log into reddit once a week on my pc.
All that costs time, money and resources whereas flatput lying and fucking people over is cheap. You calculate how much you'll lose, see that it's enormously bad qualitatively but you won't lose too many visitors because most people don't give a fuck so you go with it.
RwF
That's the thing. I get that people using the service on a third party client and not seeing ads is hurting their bottom line as they use bandwidth and not make money. But just banning them outright is a shit move. Ideally they would've made it part of Reddit Premium to make that a bit more worthwhile.
You know, I realize that some people run a dictatorship and only want absolute obedience, I totally get that, that's totally a gettable thing for me, that's not weird at all.
So edgy...
Oh so now they don't like ads
Only ads that serve them are allowed
I’m sure their next “Reddit Event” will not have a real time chat.
I bet you are right lol
Aww, you hurt their delicate fee-fees! How mean! /s
Also, lol at that pathetic sycophant's reply below your comment. Dude needs to stop twerking for spez.
There were many like that, lol!
Who is that comment even aimed at? Being that it is right under OP's comment in (what I presume to be) a busy chat, I doubt it is a response to OP.
Good point.
I doubt they have delicate fee fees or feel feels or whatever. I don't care whether they even care that I was banned, all I know is my ban from Reddit is a badge of honor and proves I can get under other people's skin. You always know you're telling the truth when it makes people angry enough to ban you.
Reddit has become Facebook with a different management team. These people are motivated by profit and that's the only way their decisions make any kind of sense. Whenever we mix the profit motive with a service for people, the people will always play second fiddle. It's why mixing profit with healthcare is inhumane and it's what's so great about Wikipedia.
i'm of another notion, i think its more about controlling public space for discourse itself than it is about profit.. they want to sever access to whatever they might consider subversive dialogue and control the next generation's access to it.
A lot of things in life are not this heavily conspiratorial...
$3 dollar words make it seem like it's real complicated. plain greed and middle management stunts
Occam’s Razor.
The only thing that matters is profits. Those profits come from advertising. The businesses doing the advertising do not want their brands associated with things that are controversial or offensive to the general public.
Therefore Reddit is bending to their will.
Because profits.
No conspiracy necessary.
🫡 thank you for your service 🫡
It was an honor, sir!
u/Ademir… A Lemming on a mission with a swagger that will set the world at ease…
So...what exactly was this event? Was it like a AMA? Or was it like one of those corporate circle jerk things where everyone says what they are supposed to say?
If I’m guessing correctly, it’s a modcon, which makes it even more pathetic for mods to attend an event hosted by the very people who have given them grief this past few months, just so they can feel special with their own exclusive event.
Yes, that's what it was. I went in just to mess when Spez was gonna talk.
Yeah no worries, I wasn’t pertaining to you. lol.
I didn't take that personally, all good. Just wanted to confirm what you said :)
Is there a difference between the latter and a typical spez ama?
Last time I saw one of his AMA, it was just a wall of deleted comments.
I got banned because I said "lemmy dot world" in reply to someone who said they wished reddit had an alternative.
We must all remember spez’ has an abnormal love of cats, among his other issues. Like keeping slaves and resource hoarding.
Yeah redditors can do that too, it would probably look somewhat like this:
Come to reddit, we have CEO who's an idiot but controls everything, a 100% closed API unless you pay exorbitant prices to use it, and we have advertisements everywhere, but WE NEED TO MAKE MONEY. So please come. We also have sociophants and trolls.
/Steve Huffman
He asked to forgiven him because of the API thing LOL
We need details, please.
I wasn't paying much attention, I asked a friend for the details and will let you know.
lol you fucking legend.
If he doesn't want to accept dissenting opinions, he should do like Mr. Burns and only allow prefabricated text.
Lisa: "Mr. Burns your campaign seems to have the momentum of a run away freight train. Why are you so popular?"
He allowed dissenting opinions when he let jailbait be one of the most popular subs lol
My lifetime ban from Reddit (which resulted from saying that we need a more progressive political candidates in our country) was a badge of honor, proving my opinions to be correct and undigestible to fascists. So I had a medallion engraved with my date of expulsion which I keep in a place of honor over my fireplace.
My permaban was for saying it is a moral obligation to punch nazis lmao
Mine was for saying that Nazi’s were a part in a war from 70 years ago, and that they should be dead now.
Mine was for "report abuse" for reporting misinformation in r/conservative.
Ayy I got one of those for that dumbass antivax subreddit lol
I am convinced there is no human behind the suspensions and the moderators reporting those who report will have you banned irrespective of merit. Such a nice environment
I actually got banned from Facebook for posting about getting sick on my birthday, saying I hated being sick on my birthday. They replied it was "hate speech" and so I was banned for a week (!).
Well of course spez was gonna take that personally haha
Being banned from somewhere doesn't prove you right or wrong. It just means those particular people are angry at you, rightfully or not.
Just a subtle reminder because fascists and nazis themselves regularly use such kinds of phrases. Doesn't make them any more right or honorable.
Do what is right, and always strive for freedom, and you'll be good :)
My ban from Reddit proves I was right - you know you're right when it makes any group angry enough to ban you. In the same way, books are truthful when they get banned for daring to speak the truth.
I always do the left thing (not the right) and achieve my freedom by not staying quiet or bowing down to fascists.
Not really. If you say Hitler was right, or any of the myriad of other terrible statements you could make, and you get permabanned for it, you're still wrong.
The difference is, those statements "Hitler was right" or any other kind of mentally ill belief are by all universal standards immoral and wrong. They don't get banned for being truthful at all, but for being morally reprehensible. I was banned for being morally above and beyond what Reddit can claim as moral standards.
You miss the important part.
You ARE right, and you should fight for the truth, and not bow to anyone, but the mere fact that you were banned isn't proof of anything.
People calling for genocide get banned. Outright nazis get banned, even while they try to move the gate. Many terrible people do get banned. Doesn't make them any more right. One can just be too stubborn to make reasoning impossible.
"I was banned thereby I'm right" is a very dangerous idea that often fuels your - and our - enemies and blinds them to the reason. It serves nothing but radicalization, for the right or, very often, for the wrong.
Saying those things validates the ideas that end up turning against you - and against the reason and the truth.
No I'm not missing your point at all, I get it, I simply don't agree with it. My ban from Reddit proves I was right in bright neon lights. Because Reddit is going backwards and devolving into the lowest form of human sewage - fascism.
Yes people calling for genocide should be banned and nazis and homophobes and other degenerates as well - but not because what they are saying has any modicum of truth to it, just the opposite. They get banned because of being horribly wrong, and unable to perceive the difference between reality and mental delusion.
So I'm not entirely at odds with your viewpoint, I'm only saying that more myself in this one particular instance, my ban was proof of the veracity of my statements.
For Reddit fascists, you are banned because of being horribly wrong.
It's very easy to say "they were banned for being wrong, I was banned for being right", but ain't that double standard?
You were banned not for being right, but for saying something that fell out of Reddit guidelines - which can be skewed and fucked up, but it wasn't you being a messiah and them trying to cover everyone from the truth and light you're spreading.
I suppose it is a double standard, but my viewpoint was correct and actually was not outside of their guidelines, which I pointed out in my response to them wherein I called them fascist scum and (various other terms I won't use here).
And I am a messiah, I am that I am. I am the great "I Am." And all who contradict me are as dead to me as the dust of arid desert lands.
Don't forget, he used to moderate r/jailbait.
Heard this is a myth but by all means continue to propagate this rumor 🥳
If i recall, at the time sub owners could designate anyone as a moderator without them having to accept the position, meaning that its very possible he was made a mod of the subreddit as a joke/troll but never actually interacted with it.
Hes still a dipshit though
Yep. Zach Braff's AMA account was made a moderator for a bunch of hardcore porn subs. Probably still is.
You would still expect better from a site's founder than an actor who probably still had a Hotmail account at the time
Correct. Early reddit you could add whoever you wanted as a mod to your subreddits, no invites required. This changed after a crab bucket subreddit was created and got up to several hundred mods re-adding anyone who left.
At this point, it doesn't matter. Everyone thinks he's a douchebag now.
He is clearly steeped in 2000s chan culture, and jb was a big part of it at that time. It's a big part of the reason I stopped using 4chan, because it got to the point where there was too much chance of randomly coming across that shit. Reading between the lines, it's very likely that he's a fucking pedo.
someone addressed it in the main thread
-TitusRex, hero, probably banned now as well
lmao
Screw Reddit and spez. You did well, OP!
He did a talk and Q&A in England awhile back at I believe Oxford and he kept checking his watch, it just seemed rude.
It was probably a smart watch where he read what to answer
What a fun little image that conjures up.
Worth it. It's a win/win really
You a real one bruh!
Hey! Thanks!
Btw Berserk rocks!
I hadn't thought about it until now but what do redditors who didn't migrate say about us? I'm really curious now but I don't want to look. I've only been on the site a couple times since the blackout and they were for specific reasons * I don't want to ruin my streak * . Does anyone here use both regularly?
*Edit
From the place I still use as they didn't move, I haven't seen a single mentioning of Lemmy, fedivers, black out or anything close. Makes sense as those communities didn't even try moving.
In one of the subs I did notice a quality decline and it moving a bit from, people talking about shared experiences with a medical condition, to being babys first experience with medical condition, but it has moved back even so slightly, but the average age seems to have gone down.
The other one for a game. I can proudly say is just as low quality as before, but I stick around to give tech support, even if it of the absolute most basic nature sometimes, and keep up with updates, bugs and community fixes.
Wow, that last sentence makes you a saint.
Thank you.
From what I can tell a lot of the people there who are even aware of it think of Lemmy as inactive and irrelevant and the protests as an embarrassing failure.
the protests were an embarrassing failure but lemmy isn't
I'd ban you too for using that fucking emote.
Nice, keep it up
Hell yeah this is great, especially if it is done in a cheeky way like you are poking the bear a little bit while also genuinely inviting people to try the fediverse out.
And that was the comment with more "likes" 👍
I saw it getting one more thumbs up after the screenshot
Grande Ademir, melhor admin da melhor comunidade de lemmy.
To everyone else, come to lemmy.eco.br (or to Brazil)!!
Brasil numero 1 Penta Campeão!
Tamo junto, meu considerado! E aquele problema com o docker? Conseguiu superar?
Kkk, acho que me tá confundindo com alguém mais
hahaha desculpa. confundi com o @groovyLizard42@lemmy.eco.br
Po, valeu por me deixar nos seus pensamentos kkkkkkkkk
No fim o problema continua, mas as permissões se ajustaram, então tudo bem :)
hahaha tmj
Eu sei como é passar apuro com essas coisas. Eu sinto a dor do colega :P
You are the people's champ.
Some of those that run corporates...
#PunchSpezsrslurredlittleface
That face insists upon itself.
Oh I get some kind of urge, definitely.
This is the greatest thing I could have seen on the top of my page 😂 Keep spreading the word Lemmings!!
Good job hero
lol thanks
Spez has that empty stare of a person who knows the devil is about to collect
Worth it
What was this event, and how did you manage to get your username showing without /u?
It was a modcon sort of thing. Anyone could edit their name and add a pic.
Lmao
He looks exactly how I pictured it.
I don't understand. Why did you get banned?
Because I advertised Lemmy in front of Reddit CEO
Ooohh I see it. Apologies. I don’t know how I missed it.
No worries
What is up with Mr. Nosferatu hands in the little corner picture?
Sign language interpreter, presumably
Based and anti-corpo pilled
🗿
o7
Oh god, that was cringey. Please, if you want to dunk on spez, or play to the camera in other ways, please write like you passed the 4th grade.
Spamming a live chat is just being a nuisance. Nobody's been annoyed into listening to a spammer.
From the image, I don't see how this was spamming, though.
We can't see much of anything. The image shows all of 4 comments. But I can guess, considering the all capital username and copy-paste format - I would bet money that they posted that same thing over and over again. Also, I know this platform is understandably anti-Reddit, but I really doubt they're banning people for a single comment about Lemmy.
I can confirm while I like the message they did spam it.
It was just the comment with most "thumbs up" while I was there LOL.
i can imagine an infinite number of live chats where spamming as a nuisance is positive. spez, scientology, MLMs, i don't even have to be political
I'm not defending the Spez stream. I'm saying spamming a chat with JOINLEMMY is just going to make Lemmy look bad and associate it to new people as an annoyance rather an interesting alternative.
agreed
To be fair, I would imagine that this event had some rule about not advertising in the chat in the ToS or stream rules fine print somewhere.
And as much as I dislike Steve and Reddit, I agree with Reddit on this one. You (or anyone else) shouldn't be abusing the chat of a competing service stream to advertise a different one. It is not the place for that and is rude. Please do not give existing Reddit users reason to believe all Lemmy users are rude rule breakers.
I am not complaining. I was there to make fun of Spez and I don't care if I was rude. If they think Lemmy users are any different than Reddit users they are delusional. There is all types of users here and there.