Trump Promises to Present an ‘Irrefutable REPORT’ Within the Next Week That Will Exonerate Him and Prove 2020 Georgia Vote Was ‘Rigged’ [UPDATED]

Flying Squid@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world – 509 points – Trump Promises to Present an ‘Irrefutable REPORT’ Within the Next Week That Will Exonerate Him and Prove 2020 Georgia Vote Was ‘Rigged’
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Updating with Gov. Brian Kemp's response:

The 2020 election in Georgia was not stolen.

For nearly three years now, anyone with evidence of fraud has failed to come forward - under oath - and prove anything in a court of law. Our elections in Georgia are secure, accessible, and fair and will continue to be as long as I am governor.

The future of our country is at stake in 2024 and that must be our focus.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/gov-brian-kemp-absolutely-obliterates-trumps-plan-to-present-irrefutable-report-on-voter-fraud-in-scorching-statement/

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Right after he unveils his healthcare plan and right after infrastructure week.

And his plan for peace in the Middle East.

No, Jared managed that quite well...

Oh wait, he "got a piece of the Middle East".....

Close enough!

I thought Jared Kushner already solved the Middle East years ago?

Still more believable than his plan to get me a big titty goth gamer gf.

It's it really though?

Making humans chill a bit vs changing the laws that make up the universe? Both are difficult, but atleast peace is not at odds with physics.

When does releasing his tax documents fit in?

But not before he releases Obama's "real" birth certificate

Don’t forget the border wall with Mexico. Hey, at least that cunt DeSantis took over trying to start shit with Mexico 🙄

Listen, I'm sure Mexico will be sending us a check for that border wall any day now.

like does donny-rapist understand that presenting his "evidence" to the public and presenting to the court are two Very different things? If you have proof exonerating yourself you present it to the court at the time of trial, or you present it to the grand jury before indictment, which he was given plenty of chances to do and refused to do it.

Im suspicious that his "evidence" will be nothing but propaganda...

Of course he knows the difference. He only cares about the court of public opinion. He knows nothing good can happen legally for him. He's hoping if he keeps a shiny nugget on the horizon long enough, his entourage might terrorize the court, witnesses or the prosecution enough to get him off.

He really has nothing else since it seems other GOP candidates are less likely to pardon him by the day.

We just didn't understand his 4d chess. The real trick is too make the US so shitty that Mexico builds a wall to stop people emigrating TO Mexico.

In two weeks (tm)

One last fuck you to American democracy before we throw the book at this two bit mobster.

He'll present nothing and his supporters will forget about this announcement.

In two weeks, when no report has appeared, remind every single Trump supporter you encounter. Don't let them forget this. Keep hammering on it. Keep asking when the report is going to drop. Don't let them change the subject. Don't let them talk about anything else. No matter what they want, keep demanding the report or that they admit he lied to them to placate them.

Don't waste your time. They'll be able to provide any kind of "reasons".

Doesn't matter. Keep hammering on it. They will fail to back up those reasons, and keep pushing. Don't let them change the subject. Insist on fully addressing the issue before moving on.

You see, their whole tactic is to flood the communication pipeline with sewage, so nothing of actual substance gets resolved. Turn off the sewage spigot. Don't let yourself get baited into responding to new, off-topic crap they bring up. Stay focused and force them to stay focused, too.

Eventually, they'll either leave, knowing you're not susceptible to the sewage, or you'll force them to admit he didn't produce any "report" whatsoever, let alone an "irrefutable" one.

I don't know, I hear the parking lot at Four Seasons Total Landscape still has room for a podium.

Not all. Some will find something they can point at and definitively say this is what he meant. It probably won't be a report. It definitely won't "prove" him right. It might even prove beyond all reasonable doubt that he's guilty. But they will point to it and say that's it. And they will have won (in their heads), the argument.

He will present a bunch of folders full of blank paper, again.

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Anyone else remember when the my pillow guy had a 3 day event where he was gonna present his evidence of this? That was pretty fun. Hopefully this lives up to the hype and is even more wild and embarrassing than that one.

Yup, and it turned out the data he presented was a bunch of nonsense.

My favorite part was when they brought out their tech experts and they had to question if it was a Windows computer or not LOL

Oh, man, I missed that... I tuned in to see what they were going to do and they were just scrolling data, it was impossible to tell from the stream what it was.

But they made the mistake of turning the logs over to an actual researcher and he was like "Nah, ok, where's my money." LOL.

https://www.npr.org/2023/04/21/1171193932/mypillow-founder-mike-lindell-is-ordered-to-pay-5m-in-election-fraud-challenge

"He proved the data Lindell LLC provided, and represented reflected information from the November 2020 election, unequivocally did not reflect November 2020 election data," the arbitrators wrote. "Failure to pay Mr. Zeidman the $5 million prize was a breach of the contract, entitling him to recover."

My favorite part of that is that Zeidman is a Trumper too. One of them fucked over another one.

He's done more than one of them and actually is kicking off another tomorrow in Missouri I believe.

Wow dude needs to get a better hobby lmao

Is he still being sued? The best thing about the OG one was it was announced he was being sued in the middle of it

Quick! Get events planning to start calling around landscaping supply stores!

This man is fucking exhausting. I am tired just listening to his bullshit lmao how his supporters still have the energy to support him is beyond me

Energy and money

Who are these fools that keep donating to the "billionaire"

Curse spreaders, rich and bored. Or they have some skin in the game that polarizing the nation or Donald's policies helped.

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When Donald Trump first claimed the election was rigged. The Republican led Michigan state legislature, prior to deciding electors, invited him and his cabinent to present their evidence at an open session of their legislature; with the implications that if indeed there was legitimate evidence of widespread fraud in the state of Michigan they would use their Constitutional right to choose electors to modify who they sent to Congress.

Trump didn't show, he didn't send a representative he sent zero evidence. He was 100% hot air then, he's 100% hot air now.

I got 5 bucks that says he just discovered AI can write a report for you.

AI could probably mimic his train of thought, but it would never get the hands right

Trump:

Step 1: Announce report that will exonerate me.

Step 2: Work on coming up with some bullshit. Hmm this is harder than I thought.

Step 3: Fail.

Step 4: Blame judges and liberals.

I think you're being pretty naïve if you believe steps 2 and 3 exist, frankly.

Said the liar:

A Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable REPORT on the Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia is almost complete & will be presented by me at a major News Conference at 11:00 A.M. on Monday of next week in Bedminster, New Jersey. Based on the results of this CONCLUSIVE Report, all charges should be dropped against me & others – There will be a complete EXONERATION! They never went after those that Rigged the Election. They only went after those that fought to find the RIGGERS!

Oh, good. I was beginning to think maybe it was all false hype. Glad he's finally gonna show us how it happened. /s

It warmed my heart that the author worked in the Four Seasons Total Landscaping stunt. Hahaha. What a joke. How anyone took their side seriously after that embarrassment is beyond me. Some people are very stupid.

He might be running a little late.

We are still waiting on the report that would fix the US healthcare system within weeks of him entering the White House 6 years ago. I think he also claimed to have a plan for world peace. Probably had something to do with just giving up and handing everything over to Putin, probably. Who knows. We never got that one either.

Still waiting on that report on Obama's birth certificate for that matter...

Oh, that Futurama ep with the time traveling politician.

God that shows how long ago it all was. The show has been cancelled and brought back since then.

The show has been cancelled and brought back since then.

To be fair though given we're talking about Futurama I have to ask which cancellation we're talking about, because it has something like 4 series finales.

Don't forget his brilliant Afghaniplan: withdraw over weeks instead of years and hand the country over to terrorists.

And yet somehow our worthless news media had the gall to throw tons of shade on Biden, not Trump, when Biden decided to finally throw in the towel and pull everyone out.

On the one hand it was an extremely shitty plan concocted by the Trump administration. On the other hand, Biden still followed through with it, knowing it was an extremely shitty plan concocted by the Trump administration.

To be fair Biden should have put a halt to it. Everyone knew it was going to be a disaster and he went with it.

Halt the pull-out? What, so we can be stuck there for another decade? Or dump another trillion dollars into that mess because the first 2 trillion dollars did so much?? Fuck that shit.

Halt was the wrong word on my part... slow the transition so that it could be done successfully. We definitely needed to get out but doing it on the ill-conceived deadline Trump set was stupid and had horrible consequences for the country and the region.

We gave them 2 goddamn decades to stand on their own. What the hell would have another 3 months done? 6 months? 2 years?

We don't know. What we do know is the military leaders knew this was going to be a disaster and we'd basically be turning the country back over to the Talaban. What's worse than 15+ years of time, money and lives lost. Knowingly vacating to turn the country over to our enemy, abandoning Afghans that worked with our military risking themselves and their families, all because of an arbitrary deadline set by a useless President that ignored his military advisors.

We don’t know.

We don't know?!? Yeah, we do know. How the fuck would another few weeks solved this issue that the previous 1000 weeks (yeah, that's roughly how many weeks we were there already) not done???

Look up "lost sunk fallacy" and shift your position to one that isn't completely idiotic.

There are plenty of things we could've done better in our exit to give the country a chance, and we certainly could have done better by the in country allies that we promised help immigrating to the US and then abandoned. That alone has damaged our future conflicts and our ability to encourage locals to help our soldiers on the ground. Our failures and things we should have done different have been discussed plenty by people far more knowledgeable than you and I.

You keep being an angry, absolutist know-it-all though. That's what we love about you!

It's "sunk cost fallacy" btw. Maybe you should look it up.

Yea, switching two words around is the same as thinking that spending another couple of weeks somewhere where we had already spent 20 goddamn years in would have changed anything.

That right there speaks volumes to how little merit your point has. oooof

And at the end of his election fraud report, he’s going to announce that he’s going to make Mexico pay to build that wall!

Ahh yes, the thing he repeatedly could not prove in Court, will now be irrefutably proven with some "report".

And what a coincidence that after all these years, it came a week after these indictments!

Is this report coming before or after the healthcare plan Trump repeatedly said he was going to release in the next two weeks?

Like all this evidence he failed to present in court the last how many times?

He is just a notorious liar. Nothing more.

It's always 'we'll show our evidence next week' with these traitors.

How many times has he promised evidence of a stolen vote already?

How many times has he promised lied about evidence of a stolen vote already?

He is a politician. Promises and lies are the same for those kind of people.

I'm sure it will release right along with his healthcare plan.

This is just a play to get his rubes to give him more money. Doesn't matter what he says or shows, lots of morons will go e him cash that he'll funnel right into his lawyers pockets. Like so many other things, this is a play for cash and time. Keep giving red meat to the base and they'll keep lining his pockets

It'll be drawn in red crayon and include just a circle around Mississippi, which I'd imagine he probably believes to be Georgia.

It will be evidence that a man named George Anderson voted illegally.

Yeah bruv and I'll gladly pay you on Monday for a hamburger today.

As a time traveler, I just came back from the future, and he didn't present Shit!

It's good you provided this information because I was totally positive he might actually have something.

Wow, what a rollercoaster.

If this existed he would have presented it by now.

He could have presented it to Any of the grand juries that were investigating him Before indictments, it fact he was asked to do so by all of them and he refused.

He's had three years, and still needs another week? Yea, okay.

Wait… you mean he’s STILL saying the thing that got him indicted? My god he’s fucking stupid.

Yes. Yes, he is.

His main problem is that he just can't stop lying.

"I've got irrefutable evidence that the election was stolen."

"Dope! Bring it to court. If you're right, they can overturn the fraud and if you're lying there will be consequences."

"No thanks! I'll stick to my bespoke twitter clone where I can't actually accomplish anything but no one can hold me responsible for my actions."

Is this like his health care plan that was always two weeks away from being published?

He’s not even rolled out infrastructure week yet. He’ll get to the proof, really soon too.

This is nothing more than theater to keep his willfully ignorant base engaged, donating, and committed to voting for him even if he's in prison.

If he had such a report, he'd have published it long ago. So that means it doesn't exist yet. If he does produce anything, it will be unfinished and unintelligible.

How his supporters don't see him as the grifter he is by now, I will never understand.

He was a known grifter before he even ran for president, how anyone voted for him in the first place is utterly flabbergasting. His go to move for the longest time has been hiring companies on the verge of bankruptcy to do expensive work for him, and then stiffing them on the bill and telling them to sue him for it knowing they can't afford to take him to court. Interestingly enough, it looks like now he's doing the same schtick to his legal teams, as several of his lawyers who are now in legal trouble (Rudy reportedly among them) are struggling to pay their own legal costs after being stiffed by Trump for the work they did for him.

They don't care. He hates the same people they do

He will release this just after he releases his taxes.

I thought we were going to get all the evidence 3 years ago. Or was that his own DOJ saying there weren't any materially significant voting irregularities? Honestly, it's hard to keep up anymore.

Remember when he had a crack team of people investigating Obama's birth certificate in Hawaii and we "wouldn't believe what they're finding" fun stuff.

"They only went after those that fought to find the RIGGERS!"

Oh, so close to saying what he actually feels...

He’ll have a big press conference with a table of “files” which are just empty papers in folders and say “here it is folks, this totally exonerates me, I’ve presented the report”

And then all the hogs will spew “BUT HE PRESENTED THE REPORT ON TV FOR EVERYONE TO SEE” and then they will do Jan 6th again

Yo fr fr we're getting a second Jan 6 event, right?

There’s no one to tell the Guard to stand down this time. Get the popcorn.

In Trump's dyspeptic liver of a brain "irrefutable" simply means bigly.

"dyspeptic liver of a brain"

I didn't know he was a Vogon. It explains so much!

Honestly, I'm just impressed he knew a word that large.

Sure. Label it as Defense Exhibit 1 at your trial. Just file it at the clerk's window like everyone else does

Make sure to sign the Under penalty of perjury affidavit too.

Wasn't he supposed to bring out all of the proof yesterday?

I'm pretty sure he also was supposed to bring out the proof a few years ago. I never saw any of it. Only mindless conspiracies that weren't founded in reality.

Didn’t we already get that information, from the grand jury in Georgia? I suppose it’s not “irrefutable proof” of election fraud but they make a good case for it

A promise to produce an "Irrefutable REPORT" is self-breaking as it's likely not possible to produce such a report about any subject, let alone one about the subject matter promised.

EDIT: There's a reason why "not guilty" and "reasonable doubt" exist as concepts in law. It's very difficult to 100% prove that something happened, only that there was a high certainty that that's what occurred, and it's 100% impossible to prove a negative.

I'd say it's 100% impossible to prove a positive as well. It can be close to 100%, assuming our knowledge of reality is correct, but there's always the chance of something crazy, like everything being a simulation or whatever. Now, that concept isn't useful so there's no point considering it beyond that it's possible so it should be ignored. Still, it could be true.

Ehhh, just to be that guy, it is quite possible to prove a negative in certain circumstances. One of those is by exhaustive search, another is by proving a positive which is incompatible with the negative claim. I can prove the statement, "Sarah Silverman is not waiting in my bed for me right now," fairly trivially by a quick check under the covers. One could also prove it by showing that she is actually somewhere else. A less-trivial example is the statement, "The election was not stolen by widespread voter fraud in 2020," which has been proved by the efforts of countless election officials who have done both, ruling out the possibility of significant fraud anywhere, and positively proving the vote through multiple, routine election-integrity measures.

If you scope it all the way down to something miniscule then yes, but it's not possible to prove negatives more generally.

Proving non-existence of a divine entity for instance.

This is going to be a big delay tactic. He can try to insist that all of his "evidence" gets investigated before any of charges move forward thereby delaying the trial and allowing him to continue to run for president.

Also, I'm no legal expert so correct me if I'm wrong (I probably am).....but if he had such evidence, wouldn't he have been required to share it already in the form of "discovery"

The other option is that he's going to use this to try to begin a full on armed conflict between his supporters and everyone else.

Heres the scene" "It's a long way to the top" by AC-DC plays to a modtly empty room. Trump trundles out, duck walking. Gets to the mic, pulls out a doctored birth certificate of Obama's Nigerian birth certificate. Trump points to the "crowd" warbles a triumphant howl of victory. His girdle bursts, he shits himself. "YMCA" by the village people plays, Trump does his half dance, half double masturbation thing off the stage. the camera pans left to see Rudy Giuliani 's election.

Kemp has said that he would support Trump if he wins the 2024 Republican presidential nomination

Wtf is wrong with these people.

They're in a cult. It's not about America or conservative values. It's a cult, plain and simple

I don't agree with it, but it would be political suicide for him to say anything else.

I don't disagree with you, but that's what "having principles" , "being brave", "having honor", "defending the constitution", "having integrity", etc is.

It's standing up for what's right. What's just. The truth. Even when it might put you at odds with your party.

Any time a Republican ever calls anyone a coward or "spineless" we need to remind them of how they turned into absolute pussies during this era.

Did his investigation team finally come back from Hawaii proving that Obama is not a US citizen? Or are we still waiting on that?

I still find it funny he's trying to claim he was just having a moment, it was a perfect call. I honestly feel like Trump made some numbers up and no one could stop him.

Hahahahahahaha, looking forward to it. It's gonna be a folder with a piece of paper in it and the paper is gonna have "i r inosint" scribbled in crayon.

crayon Sharpie

Trump has to use sharpies because otherwise someone might see him eating crayons.

Of course he will... Can't wait t see him show himself at the jail with hat "proof" which likely will be nothing more than some badly written conspiracy theory riddles with spelling errors and plot holes.

The true victims of this theatrics remain unchanged from the very beginning: Americans. What a fucking joke this has become. Need more popcorn.