A simpler time

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Philosoraptor is 15 years old, Bad Luck Brian and Success Kid are 12 years, but Doge (without that background) is 10 years. Best I can do is $3.50

Doge (without that background) is 10 years.

The last one is a mix of doge and advice dog, which is almost 18 years.

One might say a forgery

Bad Luck Brian and Success Kid are 12 years

Bad Luck Brian looking old af was in a recent "The General Auto Insurance" commercial.

First, I'm amazed no other insurance company has thought of this.

Second, Bad Luck Brian can deliver his lines better than Shaq.

Cheapskate Rick? I have a whole warehouse filled with him. You'd have to pay me rent to pawn that.

Doge is older than philosaraptor, forced meme and was a bannable offense on just about every *chan site for 10 years

Once was a bannable offense, now a cryptocurrency affected by Musk xweets

::: spoiler ā­ There's no point or sense in my comment, pretty much the same as with what's going on with the world as of lately :::

Was about to say this, no way these memes are 10 years old. Even feels wrong regarding Doge tbh

2000s internet was simpler times

Is everyone forgetting the ~half decade of "demotivators"? The ones with a picture on a black background?

Oh man, we thought everything was so bad, turns out those were the good times

I'm the original creator of the "Still waiting on OP" meme from The Shining and have a mildly interesting story behind its creation if anyone would care to hear.

I would like to hear!

This is a mildly interesting story at best.

In 2010 I was working at a video rental store (RIP) and got access to new movies before they were available to the public. Every day I'd grab one, and every night I'd stream them online for 4channers on /tv and /r9k. There was a chat built into the stream and we had a lot of fun for months and months, hanging out watching movies and chatting. It built a pretty big following. Think Twitch before Twitch existed.

One night there were no new movies so I grabbed The Shining. We watched through it, and when that scene came on the screen I paused it to take a closer look. We joked and carried on about it in chat, and I screenshotted it and opened Photoshop and made the meme then and there. Everyone loved it. Several folks posted it on 4chan boards and it took off in a big way. We finished the movie and had a great night.

One of my favorite young adult memories.

That sounds like a good time. It's a little sad that you probably couldn't easily get away with that now.

Agreed. The modern internet is so locked down that it's difficult to find those kind of fun, niche communities. Lemmy has a similar feeling at least.

Nah it's still pretty easy lol

Where?

Stream on angelthump, discord, those are just the ones I know of there's definitely more ways to do it out there. Source the media from the piracy megathread. You're on your own with the 'gathering a community' part though.

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Schrab Home Video is known to play things kinda lose with copyright law on occasion, but it's just one broadcast per week

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me and.my middle.aged friends just download the same file and click start on the count of three. then it's beers and banter on zoom while we grind through Highlander 2. or Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts club Band. featuring the Bee Gees.

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Eyyy!

I made "If buying isn't owning then pirating isn't stealing."

We should have a meme maker club.

I feel like itā€™s a great time to pull up the 4k bluray and do a remaster screenshot, since we missed the 10-year anniversary.

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Were these popular in 2014? I feel like these were more like 2010. I could be wrong.

I think they were still lingering around somewhat. I just cleared off my old laptop last night and found advice animal memes from 2014 on it. I'll probably drop a few of the better ones in 196 on Monday, maybe I'll spread the love to antique memes roadshow.

If my memory serves me right (it usually doesn't lol), it was mostly by 2015 that they were on their death throes, having been mostly usurped by the MLG era; I remember being upset that things like advice animals and rage comics were suddenly considered "things only clueless old people on facebook post nowadays" circa 2015. But they were still around in a smaller scale around 2014, so I think it still counts?

But I'm looking forward to seeing you share more old memes! I love 'em.

Advice Animals were much earlier, in the late 2000s. I remember seeing them on gaming forums before Reddit was even a thing, when SA and Digg still reigned supreme.

Know Your Meme traces them back to 2006.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/advice-animals

Well, memes sometimes last longer than the era they starred in.

I remember finding this chart showing the various meme eras (I don't remember where I found it, sadly):

And I definitely remember seeing old memes still being used after their debut "era" - I remember seeing some from the "experimental" era (1995-2004) like the Dancing Banana, All Your Base Are Belong to Us and less-commonly YTMND and Homestar Runner references in the Classic Era (2004-2009), and likewise I saw memes from that era (Pingas, demotivational posters, Leeroy Jenkins jokes/references, Chuck Norris, Over 9000, Keyboard Cat, etc) still being used well into 2012-2013 despite that already being a new "meme era".

And as I mentioned in another comment, Rage Comics and Advice Animals still persisted into 2014 (mostly dying/fading into obscurity around 2015), by which point "dank" memes were already at full swing; and I definitely recall still seeing some Surreal Memes in use around the early 2020s, so I'd say the boundaries of meme popularity are fairly fuzzy.

Ah, forgive my word usage. I meant to say that they first started in that era, not that they were solely used back then. I do appreciate how informative your comment is, nonetheless!

I remember a time when they weren't even called memes. They were just "image macros."

Having Ally McBeal flashbacks.

I tried watching that a few years ago, and had to stop almost immediately. I mean, what was going on with those random hallucination cuts?! No explanation or anything, it just cuts to her falling into a big wine glass, or something like that out of nowhere. Also it was too geared towards Gen X humor for me (which feels very dated. See Friends and its ā€œhaha because gayā€ jokes)

In all fairness, we genXers were raised by extremely anti-gay parents and Ronald Reagan. Most of us eventually got over it and don't find the "because gay" humor funny at all anymore.

I'll admit to making some heartfelt apologies in adulthood to some gay high school classmates. I said some pretty nasty shit back then. I just didn't know any better until I got a few years under my belt and found some gay friends with enough patience to explain certain things to me in college.

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Hello all you gentlemen.

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US

Someone set us up the bomb!

Edit: someone already said this quote. May I suggest:

"You have no chance to survive, make your time"

What happen?

Web 2.0 happened :/

It centralized control to a few large corporations and lowered the barrier to entry for users such that everything became a popularity contest for eyeballs. TikTok, reddit, facebook, youtube, instagram, OF, its all a brainless race for engagement

I kinda miss having to visit individual websites to see if they posted any new content/videos. Newgrounds, Squirrelly, Homestar Runner, Stickdeath, thebestpageintheuniverse. Just going to check was part of the fun.

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Where did we go wrong??

Everything is a meme now, hell even anyone could frame your comment and shit post it as a meme right now! (I won't be the one to do so).

The word meme is misused & I hate it. Ppl should know what memetics are.

This comment up till now isn't really (ok, the I hate it bit a little), but if I add 'you know that feeling of joy when you pet a cat' it would have a considerably stronger memetic effect on a lot (most?) humans. But its not funny as I didn't introduce a joke (sorry that I didn't introduce myself).

I get what you're feeling, but the word is not misused. Its meaning has changed :)

Before this even. We went wrong when dumb people took macro images and decided ideas needed packages that way for thought transmission to count as a meme.

These weren't even what we called "memes" back then (closer to twenty years ago).

These were image macros or caption images. A meme back then was usually a phrase or saying like Over 9000 and other crap like that.

But whether we called them memes or not, by definition they were. The Selfish Gene came out in 1976, where Dawkins coined it as "a unit of cultural transmission, or a unit of imitation".

Memes live in our head and propagate throughout society which is just an emergent phenomena of memes...I loved the selfish gene it's a great book and Dawkins is the man.

One trick was to post memes that don't have jokes, like the one about when I caught the ferry over to Caturday. I needed a new lol for my cat, so, I decided to go to digg, which is what they called fark in those days. So I tied a cheezburger to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a bitcoin, and in those days, bitcoins had pictures of doges on 'em. "Give me five doges for a bitcoin," you'd say. Now, where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was I had a cheezburger on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white castle because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big macs.

I was posting these in the late 2000s and we definitely called them memes then.

Doge is the best meme ever created and I will fight anyone who says otherwise.

Wasnā€™t that like 15 years ago. 10 years ago was gamergate

They'll rise up any day now, against...

Something. I was never quite sure. Women bad, I guess.

game critics take payola and thats bad but its especially bad when bad websites i dont pay any attention to publish positive reviews of works by women because women bad

in theory critics being bribed or coerced into positive reviews is a good thing to be against, but in reality the campaign was coopted within about 2 minutes of coming into existence by right wing agenda pushers who think a pride flag cosmetic or a woman who doesn't solely exist to have rule 34 made of her means a game is leftist propanda or some insane nonsense like that.

They did. Ian Danskin (Innuendo Studios) documented them and the rise of the alt right. Theyā€™re the same people.

Its funny how AI in 2024 can't come up with content as amusing or original as shitposts cooked up by teenagers from over a decade ago.

I used to frequent imgur's user-sub back then. I never made a front-page post, but I did get top comment of the day once. I nearly earned the green giraffe token. Over time the community grew more cringey by the week, and devolved into selfies and sob stories. I made the switch to reddit and never cared about karma again. What a time.

The irony is that Imgur was originally created as a an image hosting service specifically for Reddit, then became its own society and culture. Only to have you return right back where it came from

I remember the exact moment the enshittification started, Imgur used to have a "(source)" link right below the post title, it was great that you could visit the reddit thread something that went viral on Imgur, basically using Imgur to browse subreddit images, once that got removed and they started hiding reddit posts as Imgur community posts it kinda went downhill

This made me wonder what the oldest internet meme still in common usage is.

I still see the penguin on occasion, but probably not enough to be common.

Maybe the rick roll? I don't think that'll ever die.

Rick Roll was one that came to mind for me, too. Looks like it dates back to around 2007.

I was def getting Rick rolled before that.

If you remember anything specific, submit it here, because you'd be predating the earliest known usage.

It was over ICQ, IRC or msn messenger back when all I had was dialup. A lot of modern internet culture seems to be appropriated from the kind of old web neā€™er-do-wells I hung out with on IRC back in the day. Didnā€™t think to keep records tbh. The original ā€˜rickrollā€™ was goatse or lemon party (nsfw, tbh I would not google those if you donā€™t know what they are).

I do remember getting Rick rolled with Never gonna give you up by a counter strike clan team member over ventrilo back in 2005. It must be 2004-05 because the clan I was in disbanded after Oct. 2005.

Rickrolling itself doesn't count, it has to be with that specific song. So your clan member was ahead of his time!

I mean, itā€™s still just a bait and switch. I never really got why doing it with Rick Astley was groundbreaking.

I'm interested in the oldest still-used internet memes, regardless of their quality. Bait and switching itself has existed forever.

Is linking a Rick roll a meme? I thought memes were reused images with text, guessing the definition is shifting. I saw someone calling numa numa a meme the other day.

Goatse launched in 1999 and was just widely referenced this month with the eclipse.

I'm not saying we should be proud of goatse's legacy and staying power, I'm just observing the reality we've all built.

The smiley emoji - :-) - is from 1982

That's an emoticon. Emojis are these: šŸ˜œ

There's an entry for emoticons, though I'm not sure I'd qualify all of them as memes. Not the kind I was thinking about, at least.

Well, they are memes in that they went viral and are now spread with slight variations. And I must note that a lot of contemporary post-irony, meta-irony, or even something further memes probably wouldn't qualify as memes either

Probably Caramel Dansen. I remember it from when I was a kid, and I still see it every once in a while.

Edit: There's this video from 2008, but it's probably not the original. And there's this video which is a re-upload from 2008, which I think was originally a flash animation.

According to Know Your Meme, the song originates from 2001, the animations started around 2008, and there was a semi-revival during 2020. So it depends on when you choose to start counting, but the arguments are there.

Eternal September is one that dates back to irc and Usenet. I'm guessing there was some jokester sending ASCII dicks on Arpanet.

I'm talking about memes that are still commonly seen today.

I think of spam as a term that originated from that skit more than a meme.

I'll bow to their judgement that it's a meme, but I was thinking of visual memes. This one probably wins as far as internet memes in general goes.

You made me look up the origin of the word meme

"When you plant a fertile meme in my mind you literally parasitize my brain, turning it into a vehicle for the meme's propagation in just the way that a virus may parasitize the genetic mechanism of a host cell." Richard Dawkins, The Selfish Gene, 1976

maybe trollface? it's at least as common as rare-but-recognizable wojaks

I don't see trollface much any more, but I might just not be looking in the right places.

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Those are just "advice animals" (a longtime nexus being reddit's /r/adviceanimals). Yes, people are animals too. Memes in general have never been constrained by this clunky format though.

Sometimes I go back to z0r.de. Simpler time, simpler laugh.