Fox News Segment Backfires When Psychic Predicts ‘Sense of Loss’ for Trump in 2024

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Fox News Psychic Predicts 'Sense of Loss' for Trump in 2024
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What timeline is this again? Psychics are on news channels now? Not mention one with an extremely large user base that would have this go against their theology? I can’t even.

As proven long ago, Fox News is not news, it's all editorials. Every last person on the air is a pundit, there are no reporters. They don't report the news, they report their opinions on the news. That's why they have a "psychic" on one of their shows, to provide an opinion on what's going to happen. It's all just for show...

Those of us who remember Reaganomics also remember he used a psychic his entire EIGHT year presidency. SMH.

Are you thinking of his astrologer Joan Quigley? Not really any better, but not a psychic.

You say Grenada, I say Grenada. Let's call the whole thing off.

Mysticism such as using psychics is also something oddly embedded with Nazis. Like, even back during their rise they were oddly into mysticism

The Nazis had teams of archaeologists running around the world looking for all sorts of religious artifacts. Hitler was a nut on the subject. He was crazy. He was obsessed with the occult.

Did you hear what happened when they found the Ark of the Covenant?

I heard about this one archaeologist who was tangentially involved with the whole thing, but his involvement didn't change anything at all with how the events played out.

I mean new age shit is just trendy, you don't have to go to one side of the isle to find con artists.

It's "aisle", just so you know for next time

I know, I know. Doesn’t make it any less frustrating.

Their reply completely ignores your point about psychics contradicting Christian beliefs, and it’s absolutely shocking that Faux News watchers even tolerate it, let alone enjoy it.

Psychics contradict some Christians beliefs, not all. Many believe in psychics. It's the more strict sects like Pentecostals or Southern Baptists that believe all psychics are evil. Oddly enough I agree with them, but for different reasons.

Hard disagree. The Bible has verses that condemn psychics and mediums, not that that has ever stopped them from rationalizing other acts, but the Bible is anti-psychic.

When I was a Methodist, my churches were all adamant that psychics and mediums were either con artists or were coordinating with evil spirits or the devil, and it was forbidden. Same with Catholics. Generally in my experience with all American Southern Christians and some northern ones too, the more devout they are, the more against the occult they are.

Your interpretation of the bible is anti-psychic. Other Christians disagree. Some have even written books about it, as noted in my other comment. But the point isn't what the bible says...the point is that psychics aren't real, regardless of what Christians believe.

I’m realizing now that I misread your reply as “some Christian beliefs” rather than “some ChristianS beliefs,” but I was never implying all Christians believe the same thing.

I’m just shocked that there aren’t a significant number of Christians watching Fox News that would be pissed that they are putting a psychic on and promoting the occult.

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That's an understatement. It's clearly against the catechism of the Catholic church. https://www.catholic.com/qa/why-mediums-and-psychics-are-not-ok

That's Catholics, which some sects like the Pentecostals consider to be not Christians. And then you have people like this...

You can find anyone claiming anything, but the official doctrine of the world-wide largest and USA-wide second largest Christian denomination is a bit more likely to be relevant to the discussion than some random bizarre book.

The fact remains that they still believe psychics are real, they just disagree on whether they are all evil.

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is fox news considered a news channel now?

It shouldn't be, but I do see it on TVs in public more often than any other news I think which is concerning

Everytime I see it on at the gym I want to tell them to shut that shit off, but I'm always afraid I'll start an argument with some boomer who will say they were watching that lol

News used to be 60 minutes just after prime time. Now they have whole channels with news 24/7/365. Have to fill all that air time with something

24 hour news is a blight. TBH 24 hours everything except for emergencies and medical services is a blight.

There’s plenty of interesting stuff going on in the world. Reporting on it doesn’t maximize profit.

CNN used to have shows about fashion, sports, entertainment, the arts, world affairs. They figured out that just having talking heads blab and argue with each other was cheaper.

CNN headline news used to be just a 30 minute broadcast about the day’s major headlines repeated on a loop every half hour. They didn’t really fill the entire 24 hours with different stories all day long.

Similarly ESPN used to show sports of all kinds. Rugby, Soccer, bowling, snooker/billiards. Again, it’s just taking heads now.

Similarly ESPN used to show sports of all kinds. Rugby, Soccer, bowling, snooker/billiards.

Yeah, although usually only kind of late. I do miss the World's Strongest Man competitions though.

Well I want to see a faith healer on Meet the Press. Maybe a magician on Newsmax too then.

My dad was not right-wing, but he went from us watching The McNeil-Lehrer Newshour once a day in the 80s to being glued to CNN and MSNBC all day. Almost literally all day once he retired. They found an American addiction and learned to feed it. For my dad, and I think a lot of people, it was a combination of the first Iraq war and the OJ live chase. Suddenly you could watch something really amazing that was news in real time whenever you turned on your TV.

You should watch the movie “Network” from the 1970s sometime. It predicted the trash that is news programming these days.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0074958/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_network

I absolutely love Network and agree. Essential watching and predictions way before it’s time.

It wasn't meant to be a prediction though. It was meant to be incredibly broad satire. I mean the last line of the movie is- "This was the story of Howard Beale: The first known instance of a man who was killed because he had lousy ratings."

And honestly, if Fox could have just taken Tucker out with a .22 to the back of the head, they would have totally done that.

We're living in a comedy.

Yeah it's the same as 1984 and so many others, it's about the human condition and natural propensites.

The truth is things haven't really got much worse, I happen to enjoy Victorian newspapers and it's all the same nonsence and lies. People will always find a new way to lie and a new excuse to pretend to believe.

Isn't it technically 'light entertainment' or some shit so legally it's not obliged to report any facts?

They defended a slander lawsuit that was against Tucker Carlson. They suggested that no reasonable viewer would take what he said as fact. Seems pretty damning.

It’s like the Colbert Report, but for racists, and 24/7 on a channel.

Colbert doesn't just pull shit out of his ass though, AND he makes the news funny.

Fox just makes up whatever inflammatory bullshit will get their base riled up the most. They don't want them laughing, they want them irate and terrified with a Bible in one hand and a gun in the other, glued to the TV until they tell them it's time to act again.

True. I miss the Colbert report.

I do and I don't. It was very funny, but his current honest commentary is much more insightful. I almost wish we had two different Colberts.

Psychics are on news channels now?

Its on Fox "News", not a real news channel. You shouldn't be surprised that woowoo bunk is being put on the channel that's been spreading objectively falsifiable bunk for as long as they've been on air.

I turned on the news the other day and was lucky enough to catch the 10 minute segment on the new fucking kia the local dealership just got in stock.

“News” is the wrong word. “Dogma” is a better choice.

It's almost like reich-wingers are idiots and will fall for the dumbest fucking thing

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The news here is that they are putting psychics on the fucking news, wtf

They were on Fox, they weren't on the news.

Fox don't report the news, they report things that they feel should have happened if the world was just according to their values. You'd get more accurate reporting out of a 6-year-old when they're telling you who ate all the chocolate.

Their values seem to be "willful ignorance and stupidity, zero class and zero dignity... a mindless free-for-all!".

This is on the Jesse Waters show which is on the channel called Fox News. It should be noted that a majority of Fox News shows are actually talk shows and opinion segments, not straight news.

Rupie has done an excellent job convincing people on both sides that the entirety of Fox News' airtime is to be considered news because it's the name of the channel and it has a news ticker on the bottom

"I would like to see CNN evolve back to the kind of journalism that it started with, and actually have journalists, which would be unique and refreshing,” he said. Then he suggested a model: “Fox News, in my opinion, has followed an interesting trajectory of trying to have ‘news’ news, I mean some actual journalism, embedded in a program schedule of all opinions.”

I couldn't find the original article in my history, but this segment had me infuriated... This chucklefuck looks to Fox news as a good model for them to replicate on CNN...

Brb getting my name legally changed to Absolute Truefacts

So much work. Just start a meme page and present "news" via memes. Bam, instant Facebook cancer. Shit like "it takes 21,000 gallons of diesel fuel to make and transport the lithium batteries in your testla charged by coal plants. My F350 commuter burns 3 gallons to get across town. Who is the pollute now?" [ignore the entire fuel refinery process and economy of scale] - follow Absolute Truefacts for more smoothbrain digestable content!

Network was a documentary. Remember that the "TV Generation" that they talk about in that movie are the Boomers.

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“But it’s very specific. Let me move on. It’s a sense of loss,” she added. “It’s as if he may be thinking more about what he’s lost and not still taking full advantage of what he still has.”

This is because Trump is A LOSER.

Watters called Robert’s words “ a great interpretation.”

This is actually really smart on her part. She's banking on the most gullible portion of society to believe everything she says, on Fox News, no less, so they think she's automatically legit. And even if they boo or even hate her at this point, if things go south for Trump, you can bet they'll be looking her up to see what else she has to say because she "simply said what she saw". And thats when she'll start raking in the big bucks with personal consultations.

It's weird to me that they wouldn't just arrange the cards to create the narrative they want to sell. Psychics know it's a con, otherwise they wouldn't try so hard to spin the results.

I don't know. Some believe the con so much that they end believing it more than their customers (source: my mother who does it for free for her friends)

Same, my mother absolutely believes it, so much so that she refuses to do it for family and friends because she doesn't want to see anything bad with anyone she knows.

Same with reiki, she tried it on me once and asked if I felt anything, which I obviously didn't so I said as much and her reply was "oh, well that's probably because you don't believe in it."

I love you mom, but that's called a placebo.

Is your mom my mom? Are we siblings? That's EXACTLY what my mother is like

It's weird how tarot cards can never actually predict anything useful isn't it? You know like it would be really convincing if they could tell me what next week's lottery numbers are.

One of my sister's friends is into this stuff and yet she still managed to get a speeding ticket, you'd have thought she'd seen that one coming.

Thats a fundamental misunderstanding what is claimed to be offered. I dont even believe in this, but you have to understand how dumb that sounds right? Tarot doesnt claim to give you a minute by minute breakdown of every day for the next week.

There's a very surprising percentage of people who believe more or less in astrology, numerology and other predictive bullshitology. Even in developed countries with a good level of education.

I mean, sure some people believe it, but to be successful at it, you have to engage in the grift. Because it doesn't actually work. You have to massage the story to get people hooked and make them think you're telling them something valuable. Reading tarot cards for fun isn't the same as building a business around your psychic abilities.

It's the difference between playing with a Ouija board and telling the police that a victim has contacted you from beyond the grave for the reward money. Belief in the former can be sincere, but you don't do the second part unless you know it's a con.

Iirc on fox news they control the narrative and the presentation, but they never control the guests. Usually the guests just go along with it (because why else would you go on fox news). But they already had some earlier instances where they tried to cut off interviewees because they had polar opposite opinions.

I mean...

If you're suggesting the psychic herself should have done that...she doesn't owe them anything, and this gets WAY more people talking about her.

"It's true! I'm not making it up!" said the fucking psychic.

It's insane that people not only watch this channel, but actually believe they're more informed for doing so.

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I'm at a loss as to what this may be.

Is it supposed to be the astronaut with a gun meme?

I can't work it out either I think I'm going to have to go and drink a quartz of vodka and then come back and have a look at it.

It's pretty bad. I can really only tell because it's 4 distinct objects and what the headline is about.

It's like when a 4-year-old draws a dinosaur, but you only know that because he told you that he was drawing a dinosaur.

It’s loss.

I don't know what that means

It's a meme or maybe comic that's referenced like one.

Loss is a 4 panel comic of (1) guy going to a hospital, (2) asking someone at desk for directions, (3) talking to doctor about their loved one, and (4) mourning over said love one lying in bed.

Never heard of that before I'm not quite sure why the relevant to the situation though the astronaut one would have been better

The comic was called “Loss” because it was about the comic character losing his unborn child. It became a meme because it didn’t fit the tone of the comic series (normally about gaming and non serious stuff).

So now when anyone mentions the word “loss” (as OP did in the title of this post), people meme about it in some way. Usually by posting a minimalist version of the comic.

They deserve this 100% for having a fucking psychic on what they call a news channel. Meanwhile, that psychic is awesome for trolling everyone.

To give them credit, it’s tarot cards and not new age stuff.

Thank goodness it's this one unfalsifiable meaningless bullshit and not that other unfalsifiable meaningless bullshit

A sense of loss!? That is pure CYA bullshit. Even if he wins, she can still say she was right.

He’ll lose the popular vote again, even if he wins the EC.

The dems should have gotten rid of the EC when Gore “lost”. Instead, they got a repeat scenario with Hillary. Will Biden make it a threepeat?

What would it take to get rid of it? IIRC we'd need a Constitutional amendment, right? I mean there's also the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. It wouldn't technically get rid of the EC, but same difference afaik. (I just worry about that one bc even if enough states agree, it seems like it could be relatively easily killed by a court decision or new legislation.)

Dunno. But they didn’t even try. Even when they held the majority in both houses of Congress and the presidency.

Uh huh.

Well, for one thing, you should probably know what it takes to change the Constitution before crying about how Democrats didn't convince half of the sitting Republicans to sign a bill that would prevent a Republican from being President for the foreseeable future.

And then get it ratified by 2/3 of the states. The last time that was tried was with the ERA in the 70s and they couldn't even agree that people should be treated equally.

Why does this woman look exactly like Sigourney Weaver in a comically large wig?

"OMG Ellen Ripley watch out the orange monster! It's on your HEAD!"

Maybe that gives her the powers?

She is clearly trolling Fox News by pretending to be a psychic.

I hate it when all these fakers take jobs away from the real psychics.

The 5 of cups is literally the sorrow card lmao

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Following up her prediction of “loss” for Trump and “lots of money” for Biden, Roberts said Americans should expect “great happiness” this year.

“I mean, that’s just full of joy, happiness, contentment. It’s actually a funny way of putting it, it is as big as the money card is. It’s a big, big, big, big, happy.”

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I’m sure the tsunami of copium that followed was only matched by the waves of ketchup and smashed dinner plates running down the walls at Mar-A-Lago.

naw. most of the people this would have been anything other than 'hah that's funny' to, are dismissing it as superstition, by condeming it with their own superstitions.

"Backfired" insofar as no one cares at all, yet people are trying to dunk on Republicans over this absolutely boring piece of nothing?

Yes. The right feels so ashamed that this two-bit psychic implied sadness by Trump on Fox News. We won!!!

I promise you, more Democrats than Republicans have seen and cared about this. We're winning! A psychic said so! They're the crazy ones, not us!!

For fucks sake, yall.

We’re winning! A psychic said so!

Not really seeing anybody saying this. The sentiment moreso seems that it's just laughing at fox news stupidity.

It's Fox News, they've definitely seen it. Also, apparently some of these nutjobs clearly believe in psychics, why else would they have one as a guest?

Are we sure it's not Rachel Dratch in a wig doing a bit for Last Week Tonight?

I mean, I don't believe in this shit but "a sense of loss" could be anything. It could mean Trump's loss in the election, or the loss of democracy in the US as we know it (i.e. trump wins). I'm a way it's a very fitting card either way.

I don't know if she proceeded to "analyze" the card any further.

It's Tarot, the trick is that you can spin it anyway you want: "Oh this card means a sense of loss, he will probably lose the election" or "Oh this card symbolizes the sense of loss a lot of his opponents will feel when he wins" or "This means that for him to emerge victorious he will have to leave many things that he holds dear behind"

She's a bad psychic but more importantly a bad con woman.

It could mean he takes a really big shit. Personally, I love that feeling of vacancy after a very large bowel movement. It's a very comfortable sense of loss.

I hope history remembers that the same month NASA announced it was studying UFOs is the same month one of the Voyager probes started going nuts. I want to be a dramatic moment for people in the future that really summarized well our decent into next dark ages.

The Romulans are fucking with our timeline again.

No joke, the article says she pulled the death card out of the Tarot deck.

Hmm, but not the tower or chariot? Death isn't assigned the meaning you think it is. It is more about reaping what you sow, or receiving a change to your life, than dealing with death itself. Not saying I believe the meanings, but I know what they are meant to represent.

I don't believe in them either, just found the whole thing pretty humerous on its face.

It was actually the 5 of Cups, which has a hooded figure that can resemble the grim reaper.

Is the actual video on an embedded tweet in the article? Because my privacy badger is blocking twitter widgets. Does anyone have a direct link to the video?

with Jesse Watters

excellent, any time he gets deflated is a good time.

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