Elon Musk Urges Mr Beast to Post Videos on Twitter for Equal Earnings

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Public begging? How embarrassing

Desperate times call for desperate measures

Yes, it's so cringe. Honestly, he is like a child. Especially that this is all done publicly.

Don't worry Zuck will follow suit. And if you make content and it does bring in revenue to you, why not leach extra money out of the 3 biggest tax dodgers!

He is getting exactly what he wants everyone is talking about him, why do I want to be reminded everyday about how he is?

Its not so embarrassing if you need it. But when you're one of the wealthiest people on the planet and literally begging, that's seriously embarrassing.

I didn’t realize anyone earned anything on Twitter ever. Is this just video views? Is this new?

Also, fuck Musk, etc.

I think it's new, he decided to add it to attract Tucker Carlson. I don't know who would watch a whole 20 minute video on their phone though.

I would. Not on Twitter though because their video player sucks

Who doesn't?

I just don't see the reason to do it.

If I have time to watch a 20min video it's because I'm at home doing nothing and home is where my TV and computers are. If the only thing I have is my phone that means I'm out doing something, so I don't have time to watch a 20min video.

My child will watch a 20-minute video on any device capable of displaying it.

Either that or you're commuting in a country with good signal coverage, for instance. I live in a hilly region in Europe, so streaming while commuting is difficult because of tunnels, but it can be done.

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Will i watch videos on my phone rather than my computer? no

will i watch videos on my phone rather than staring into the distance and feeling the state of the world slowly and agonizingly send me into a spiral of depression and anxiety?

Yeah.

I have a friend who watches entire movies on his phone. It appalls me, but a lot of people do it.

This comes to mind https://youtu.be/wKiIroiCvZ0

Meh, I've got a 4k phone with Dolby atmos. I'm fine watching a movie on it. As a technophile and audiophile, it's hitting everything it needs to hit for me. I do prefer to watch in my VR headset overall, but VR headsets are still only up to the equivalent of 1080p at a comfortable field of view. Still pretty good, but the main upside for VR is perfect 3D, I'm one of the weirdos that likes 3D.

But, I do get that at the time of this recording, he had a 4-6 inch diagonal phone with a single tinny speaker and 576p screen in mind, and that would indeed not be a great way to watch a movie. Though if people like it, no real reason to be snobby to them about it, they just don't care about the same thing he does/we do.

My wife will binge watch TV shows on her phone. Ones with epic views like The Expanse. I don't get it but she's fine with it.

I would if i was on a train. I don't know if I would do it with Twitter's video player though...

I don’t know who would watch a whole 20 minute video on their phone though.

In some countries, a phone as a daily computer for everything is much more popular than actual computers.

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How is he going to be able to handle more videos when he has to ration text views because it's melting his servers.

He's always been desperate for attention, but now the public sentiment has finally turned against him everything he does just looks sad.

Oh and his memes were always stale AF.

Elon just wants everyone to think he's funny and smart.

Unfortunately he's so determined to be constantly visibly online it's completely shattered that illusion.

He's just not funny.

A lot of comedy comes from situational absurdity of unexpected actions, and there is nothing that kills the joke faster than to realize that they are not pretending. It was funny at first when a boomer (Ok, elder Gen X) billionaire started posting bad middle school humor on Twitter, it immediately stopped being funny when it turns out his real maturity level never got past middle school.

Which is also why Trump is such a black hole for comedy, you just can't make fun of him, because any absurd and ridiculous thing you can think of him doing, you would expect him to actually do it.

Which is also why Trump is such a black hole for comedy, you just can’t make fun of him, because any absurd and ridiculous thing you can think of him doing, you would expect him to actually do it.

If a sketch comedy group ever does another Trump sketch, I think the best one would be to make him seem like Sherlock Holmes behind closed doors. I mean a posh English accent, a big and sophisticated vocabulary, and an obviously sharp mind. Then have him leave the room to do a press conference and put on the idiot persona, then come back and back to his "true" self.

I think that's the only thing that would be absurd and ridiculous: he's actually very smart and sophisticated, not just a buffoon.

Oh and his memes were always stale AF.

Brutal. Just twist the knife why don't you?

Two people in this world that you should never get an IOU from: Trump and Musk.

They just don't pay their bills. It's not worth the effort.

With what money, Elon? You can't afford to pay Google or office rent but you're going to pay Mr. Beast?

He’s perfectly capable of paying both. He doesn’t want to, and because he’s rich, he doesn’t have to. There is a reason billionaires end up with so much money, and fairly compensating other parties isn’t it.

They don't have to rip other people off, they just choose to. I had a girlfriend whose family was quite wealthy... she loved shopping at the dollar store, and her mother acted overwhelmed with glee when she found a dozen past-date eggs for .65 at the grocery store. Is that how they became wealthy? Fuck no, they inherited a hotel.

Mr Beast will always have money if he does it though, even if he loses all his other money he'll still have an unpaid debt from Pissbaby Musk.

A company notorious for revenue problems and missing bill payments is definitely who I would want to enter a business relationship with. Where do I sign up?

Exactly. Unless they can negotiate a better wage that will hold up against a lawsuit, it is equivalent to a modern scam.

Richest man in the world begging for pennies.

Yeah and his best offer is I promise I'll pay you what you're already being paid...

Not even. He's offering similar compensation per view. There's no way Twitter is getting the number of views YouTube is. Especially with all the games he's playing lately, like putting the whole site behind a registration wall

Lol yeah you're 100% right, I didn't even think of that

How can MrBeast post a 10-minute video on Twitter? Should he make a thread for a video? 😆 😆

He can post a 10 second video containing a QR code to his YouTube full length video

I don't get why Twitter didn't try to make a Youtube-like video platform before? I wonder if it's because venture capital has caused brain rot in the executive teams at these tech companies? It seems obvious to launch something like that, and they 100% have (had) the talent and infrastructure to build and support it. Even if it isn't massively successful on day one, it could be successful in the future with a strong marketing effort.

If I didn't know that these companies were run by incompetent idiots, my first suspicion would be some kind of collusion. Trying to do it now that Twitter is a sinking ship is laughable.

They didn’t have anywhere close to the infrastructure to compete with YouTube

Based off earnings from before Twitter was purchased, they were making less money than Snapchat - and Snapchat is having to close down gfycat due to the cost of serving gifs - much less having the main focus be long form videos

If he just brought over a few really big creators, he wouldn't need all of YouTube's infrastructure.

OTOH, even just a tiny fraction of YouTube's infrastructure is massive compared to what Twitter does with video. It's like someone suggest that a newspaper start using his home printer instead of their printing presses.

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Doesn't Elon hate trans people or whatever?

He has a trans daughter who disowned him. I don't know why, but you can probably guess.

"He" being Elon, I believe, not Mr Beast.

I could be wrong about Mr Beast, however. But Elon def has a trans kid and this is the source of his bigotry.

He likely hates them because his daughter is trans and completely wrote him off. She changed her name wanting to have no association to her father.

Soon after this he started increasing his anti trans shit.

Also, his ex Grimes is/was dating a trans person, Chelsea Manning.

Not sure if he hates anything but it does look like he looks at most people as lesser beings.

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Pretty sure Mr Beast is a company, not a person. I mean, we know who he is, but like, he isn't the guy managing millions of dollars.

Pretty sure they are a well oiled machine, still making ridiculous amount of money.

Asking them to come to your platform publicly like that would be like BC college asking the Red Sox to play a few games on their turf for funzies.

They wouldn't show up without a down payment equal to what they pull down on an average night at home.

Are you bill Simmons? This is a great analogy to Boston sports and the only person I know who can do that is Bill Simmons. But I guess that's because I live in Florida lol

I mean, the Sox do play a double header with BC and Northeastern every spring training, so you could see the theoretical game in Florida if you wanted

Fuck Musk. He should do us all a favour and go suck on the tail end of one of “his” rockets.

All the jokes aside, it's still amazing the CEO over a year in doesn't even know how profitable being an user that drives engagement on the site is compared to a (I guess) competitor like youtube. He's just like we're as profitable as youtube for you, or if not we can be, like the guy knows nothing and is just throwing claims out there with no basis in reality or plan to follow through on them.

over a year in

The deal closed at the end of October. He's also appointed a new CEO, so while he owns, the title isn't with him. He's still in charge, though. Still an asshole, too.

Interesting that he would try to use the potential number of views as a selling point while also publicly decimating the reach of Twitter posts lol

He just wants popular and already famous people on his platform. He doesn't understand that a well designed platform will surface that content for the people that want it. Instead he wants to jump straight to things that are already popular and then force everyone to see those things. It's completely backwards.

Not sure elon could afford the cloud bills if mrbeast actually did that

Shouldn't Mr. Musk pay his server bills first?

I thought everything was on the clouds, not on servers

You hire servers to take the orders from clients and bring those orders to the clouds. Then they take the data from the clouds and bring it to the clients. It's the RESTaurant protocol

Or at least its rent.

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Even billionaires are begging MrBeast for shit now, lmao.

Top bad Twitter's video player is very bad, and Twitter's but rate is very noticably worse than YouTube.

Also I don't watch Mr beast so I don't give a shit in the first place.

Wish Twitter would just stop existing already. Why do people acknowledge the shitty owner of the site at all? Just keep this scum out the news. Easy.

If Twitter stops existing it will just mean less competition in the social media sphere and help further expand Meta’s share in the market. That’s not a good thing.

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Most people don't have any fucks to give over who owns what. If its running and convenient to them, they'll use it.

You need to know which way the shit is floating so you can avoid it.

Thing is that most news editors still have to eat and pay rent. They do not run on subsidy and basic income so that they can just do fuck all. Unless this changes, mainstream news will continue to carry content that drives clicks and engagements.

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No one would watch videos in GARBAGEp resolution when 1080p is right behind a corner on YT

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His new CEO is desperate as well.

LMAO Twitter's community has been the cesspool of the internet for ages now and everybody knows it. "On Twitter YOU can be real, as long as you're real straight, cis "non-transgendered", and far right.

That lady is in so over her head all I see is her hands moving around frantically with that copy paste reply.

We all know she was put in the CEO position to take the fall, she has no way to save or fix anything.

I mean, she’s “right” in that Twitter can’t be duplicated — but it can be made obsolete by better alternatives.

YOU build the Twitter community

Uhhh.. does she know what happened to Twitter during this year lol?

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“We’ll pay you!” - Guy famous for not paying Twitter bills

Nobody's going to watch long form videos on Twitter as long as YouTube exists

I don't feel that their system is even designed to share millions of video streams every minute like YouTube

I know that if I have internet connection so shitty that images don't load on websites for minutes, there are still two websites that somehow manage to squeze videos in that bandwith, and those are YouTube and PornHub, I don't think Twitter has the same network infrastructure capabilities

What do you mean? Didn't you see how well the DeSantis presidential campaign announcement went?

Damn, I thought I was on r/funny for a second then I remembered reddit didn't exist

Eh.. mr Beast is a "your people get in touch with my people" kind of guy, and by people I mean lawyers talking about money.

putting earnings equal to youtube... lol

i mean sure, it sounds great

but... their site is utter shit, if you use it as a video-consumption media...

One could ask them: „How come you're not posting on our platform? Can we improve anything?”

Or you can go the Elon Musk way.

Is it PR/purely for publicity? Is it a spontaneous thought posted as a Tweet? Is it an offer with public visibility for increased impact? Is it underhanded trying to get more publishers to join the platform? Is it desperate try to get them or anyone as a publisher? It's certainly ambiguous and unprofessional. But that's nothing new.

Very pathetic Elon. It will not make any sense to the man who build an empire on YouTube to post videos on Twitter or any other social media. It's not about the money, it's about braniding. Mr Beast is a Youtube icon. And it would not be a suprise I'd they have some contracts with YouTube.

If Elon wants to compete he needs to focus on new talents who use Twitter as their main and only plataform, similar to what Twitch does. Probably he should give Vines a second chance. I think it was Twitter error to close it. Now shorts and streaming are on demand.

Trying to steal other platforms talents is just nonsense.

I get why people are doubtful about Musk. I just wanna see YouTube's monopoly broken and streamers/entertainers get their due. I do not like how YouTube treats content creators. Maybe a competitive alternative is a good thing.

Given that Twitter's already relatively tiny user base is dwindling, the platform is now account-walled, and Musk is a notorious liar, I doubt any prominent creators are going to even consider cross-posting to Twitter.

A competitive alternative would be great, but Twitter isn't going to be it.

Yeah, definitely isn't going to be Twitter.

Musk is too stupid for that.

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especially since the closest competitor rn is twitch which is an absolute shithole

As someone less familiar with twitch, what's making it a shithole?

Twitch takes 50% revenue. Youtube takes 30%. Twitch has an overly strict TOS to stay relatively kid-friendly. Twitch recently tried to limit content creators from showcasing sponsors in their own videos, but I think they backed away from that plan. Basically, it's at the fully enshittified stage at this point.

Apparently, there's a new twitch competitor, Kick, backed by an online gambling company, which I even worse. They have their content creators do gambling streams where the odds are modified to make it look like their games pay out more. And they explicitly promote bigots and fascists on their platform.

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It would take a lot to beat YouTube though, and honestly I'm not sure it can be done given the extreme cost and general lack of revenue.

What fucking wild times we live in. This whole Elon vs Zuck thing about copyright. And how I see more people want Zuck to win. And now, we've got Musk trying to go after YouTube.

It's a mess.

I in no way want Musk to win. I just think the whole series of events is wild

Yup, Elon is such an ass that I'm cheering for Mark Zuckerberg of all people. What crazy times we live in

I never thought I'd see people rushing to and championing and saying how much they love a new Zuckerberg owned platform like they have with threads lol. Everyone's always saying they want facebook to die, and how they won't use anything with a facebook account, and so on...........and then bam, 100 million users in a few days lol

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When people are rooting for the Zuck instead of for you, that's when you know that you've fucked up beyond any doubt.

I feel like bezos should jump into this to increase the drama level.

Actually. What has he even done recently? Other than, ya know, bring part of THAT group. Isn't he just doing rockets or something? I haven't heard about him for a while.

The last two things I remember were him getting legally divorced and then popping champagne as William Shatner was trying to talk.

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Who are these people?

MrBeast is a youtuber iirc

Elon musk is some african dude who sells terrible cars

There are millions of youtubers. I think most of us just want to know what his videos are about?

They kind of vary. He has some goofy ones like extreme hide and seek with his friends / other youtubers. Last to leave the circle wins a prize. I ran a used car dealership where all the cars are free etc.

Almost all his videos involve giving away a prize to the contestants in the video or straight up charity. If the kind of video sounds familiar lots of people are copying trying to follow his lead to fame.

People can bash him but Mr Best seems like a genuinely nice dude.

That's way more wholesome then I had assumed from reading previous comments on Reddit.

The issue is this kind of "charity" is just trying to slap a bandaid on a bursting artery. Not to mention philanthropy in general is a pretty morally grey concept (because capitalism sucks and doesn't work)

I think he has the most popular youtube channel (or at least for english). The basic gist is him giving away absurds amount of money or expensive things for a silly task. Like going to the store and buying anything that the contestant can fit in a triangle.

Giving away money so he can monetise the videos and make more money, which he gives away, monetising those videos to make even more money. The guy has literally found a way to print money.

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How reassuring, "should".

Full self driving next year™

You better buy now before we stop selling cars because of all the revenue they'll be making as an automated taxi. But if you buy now you can make money too. It's not capricious spending, it's an investment.

Also he's very concerned about AI while trying to replace every taxi driver with it.

His only concern is that he needs time to catch up - hence the 6 month request.

Well, it looks like a W for Zuck, I just hope it's not doom for the Fediverse, somehow. I don't really care if the Twitter exodus goes elsewhere, they've already been stepping on the flowers pretty hard at Mastodon, I just don't want to be somehow annexed by Facebook.

With a shitty video player like Twitter's, let there be views first before talking about "earnings per view".

Was this tweet removed? I can't find it.

I think the reply by musk is paying-subscriber-only; when I saw someone post about it, it said something like "only the people who have subscribed to this person can view this tweet"

I've left twitter since Musk took over, so I'm not familiar with things anymore. Paid subscribers, is that like following someone but then you need to pay to do so?

Something like that, it lets you "support" your favorite creators and gives you access to subscriber-only posts

Does Twitter even host video?

Apparently Tucker Carlson's new show is (or was. I'm not sure whether he took it down due to Faux News suing him for breaking his non-compete clause after they fired him) there, so I guess it must? 🤷

Still is. And his audience (which includes people just scrolling past because of Twitter's bullshit metrics) drops with every new video.

Tucker Carlson steadily becoming more and more obscure on a platform incompetently tailored for shitheads exactly like him and his audience is fucking delicious! 😂

Even if Mr beast posted his videos on Twitter I doubt it would make a difference. Why would people come to Twitter just to watch his vids?

They wouldn't go there for the videos. The videos would be watched by the people already on twitter and scrolling through trending, then presumably some would follow and watch them in their regular feed. I rarely use twitter but I like the idea of hearing how the payment he's promising pans out given all of twitter's unpaid bills lately.

Yeah did you notice "should be"

Not "we match" or even "we beat" lol

"Should be" is the phrase of the lazy

“Should be” is the phrase of the lazy

If I've learned anything from writing documents for the government, it's that any sentence that contains "should be" is better off changed to "shall be", or removed entirely.

Please, do it, I just want to see what happens. It really is like watching the Titanic of the internet sink

Is that how much he's earning per video?

Those are the video view counts I believe

View counts in first X hours perhaps? Train Vs Giant Pit has 31M views, and Yacht has 152M