Most of the trick-or-treaters have been skipping my house, and I finally figured out why
For years now, I've been watching most of the trick-or-treaters go to the house on one side of me, take one look at my house and walk right past it, and then go to the house on the other side.
I had no clue why. Maybe they were scared of my house or thought I'd give cheap candy (my house is a bit of a fixer-upper)? I completed my "curb appeal" projects; didn't help.
Maybe they thought nobody was home? I not only have the porch light on, but also have the living room TV on, clearly visible through the (open!) front window, and it makes no difference.
Maybe they think I'm not participating (despite the clear signal of the porch light and jack-o'-lantern)? I put up a bunch of Halloween decorations this year, and it still didn't help!
Well, I finally found out the reason, after hearing one kid scouting ahead yelling to tell his friends to skip my house: "there's no bowl on the porch!"
...You've got to be fucking kidding me.
Yep, unlike my neighbors, who had apparently just left unattended bowls of candy on their porches, I was actually sitting there inside the house, with the bowl of candy, waiting for kids to knock or ring the doorbell before I opened the door and handed it out. You know, like how trick-or-treating is supposed to work.
This is ridiculous. Kids these days are skipping viable houses with candy because they can't be bothered to actually knock on the damn door and say "trick or treat" to the person who answers? Residents are expected to be too lazy to answer the door, and just put out the candy without even receiving the traditional threat first? With no actual interaction with the neighbors for the kids to show off their costumes, what's even the point‽
I finally stuck a sign on the door saying "yes, you have to knock or ring for candy!" and that helped, but even then, some kids are still skipping my house because they apparently can't be bothered to read the sign.
My guess is, the kids aren't supposed to knock and interact with strangers anymore cause their parents are scared.
Some places, trick or treating has been replaced with a group of parents driving to a parking lot and their kids going from truck to truck.
The latter has been popular in rural areas too for years, because the alternative is driving your kids from house to house. I would have made it to like 5 houses a year max if I’d tried to walk as a kid (and probably got run over, lol).
We're semi-rural (multi acre lots often with houses set almost at the back of lots), this was my first Halloween out here, I was following the kids with a car cause it was cold and snowy. But apparently the other parents in the neighborhood all hang out and set up a flatbed trailer with a fire pit, lawn chairs, and beer just being hauled around by a UTV. I need to learn how to make friends as an adult.
In a rural area, that makes sense. I can also understand if a school or parent group organizes this for kids who live in unsafe areas. But it’s perhaps even more popular in affluent areas because the paranoia there is just that intense.
I just got back from taking one of my kids trick or treating with his friends. It was great. My wife and I got to walk and chat with the other parents while all of our kids knocked on doors and shouted "trick or treat!". Lots of friendly, generous, nice people. And lots of shouted reminders from us for the kids to not walk on people's front lawns, to say thank you, to be careful crossing the quiet roads. There were so many other kids out too. It was pretty crazy, but in a good way. About half of the houses were giving out candy in some way or other, with only about a quarter having an un-monitored bowl.
Then on the way home we drove past a church that was having a 'trunk or treat' in their parking lot. That just looked sad. There was no excitement for going up to the really cool houses that were decked out in amazing props and decorations. There was no need to hone analytical skills to determine which houses were giving out candy and which ones probably weren't. Just going very short distances from one car to the next getting candy. My kid asked why they do that. I said it's probably because they are a closed community who don't really want to associate with 'outsiders'. Give me the conventional experience over that all day every day!
Trunk-or-Treating!
Finally, a day when it is acceptable for me to lure children into my van!
Vans don’t have trunks asshole!
(A paraphrasing of “Castles don’t have phones asshole!” from The Rocky Horror Picture Show …)
They're doing trunk or treat now, when they go to a planned event hosted by businesses during the sunlight hours. I guess it's still fun, but it loses the neighborhood charm.
My town does this at the city square. It started with all of the businesses around the square getting together to give out candy. Then the next year more people showed up for it. Then last year the city took over, did no advertising and almost no one showed up for it. Heck we went to another area to give out candy because we did not know. This year the city did it again, with zero advertising. There was a decent turn out for kids, but very few people giving out candy.
Our town is small and old, there are huge gaps between houses, much more so than when we lived in the city.
Leave a bowl out with a sign that says "if the bowl is empty, please knock." You don't even have to fill the bowl with anything.
Classic "bait and switch" tactic. Guess OP isn't an used car's seller.
hey look buddy I've got some amazing advice for OP over here but I had another OP call me 10 minutes ago asking for the exact same advice so I'm gonna need you to make a decision right away.
ONE bag of sprite per child
They go for the unattended bowls so they can just take it all for themselves. I dressed up as a decoration scarecrow one or two years after I was too old to trick or treat myself and held a bowl of candy in my lap out on the porch. Every kid that attempted to take the entire bowl, got a scare as I stood up and shouted scary things like "TAKE THE BOWL, I TAKE YOUR SOUL!"
This is the way. I vote op does this next year!
Give out the best candy possible to the few who come by. The rumor of the amazing trove will spread. But then "run out" early so that some of them will miss out and learn the lesson for next year
King size candy bars, give out 2 to each. Everyone always loved that guy
Or give the option of a nice potato.
I once got a pear
I got a rock.
My kid got a potato this year! I was so proud.
Buying boxes of full-sized candy isn't even that much more expensive than the fun-sized, and the psychological impact is immediate and dramatic. Every year I hear kids go "Woah, big candy bars!"
You're tripping if you think the pricing is close.
It's a little more expensive, but not dramatically so
Are you an idiot? You're showing a picture per ounce. Do you know how Halloween works? You aren't handing out candy by the ounce. You can buY a 300 piece Hershey Halloween candy bag for $25. Each kid can take 3 and you have enough for about 100 kids. How many regular size candy bars are you going to get for $25? Here's a hint- it's a lot less than 100.
Guys, we found the dunce that failed 3rd grade math. They figured out how to use a computer, finally.
The point of this entire thread is to solve the problem/attract trick or treaters. Not giving out bullshit size bars is a solid way to do that. And the number of those who visit OPs house are low anyway, so it doesn't fucking matter that 'bigger means less quantity, das tooped herpaderp'.
OP is trying to make kids enjoy the event, and the bean counter over here is like 'we could save money by providing a shittier, smaller product, but more of it - though less overall compared to the standard, shh, nobody will know that - where is my promotion, boss?'.
To be both incompetent and a smug jerk is impressive though, that's a skill that will get you places. Not pleasant places, but places.
My response was strictly to the guy above me trying to say giving out full size bars doesn't cost much more. Learn to read the thread order.
At my house we get north of 200 kids every year it's decent outside. Sometimes over 250. We're talking about a kid every minute for the 3.5 hours we do it.
I just set up a table outside, invite a few friends over, drink some beers and give kids candy as they show up. Fuck having to answer the door every minute for 3.5 hours.
My older neighbors complained that the kids don't have to come up to the front door and are skipping their house because I sit outside. I felt a little guilty, but honestly sitting outside (it it's cold I get a fire pit going, not tonight tho) is much nicer. One older couple followed my lead this year and agreed. So I'm over it now. Welcome to the new world.
I do the same, minus the fire pit and friends but add in a costume. I've been a drunk pirate lately. I used to jump scares, but I find this routine more fun because, apparently, everyone is on edge and creep scares are jsit as easy
Normally I wear a costume, but mine fell apart this year.
We're also a sit outside house. Luckily October is pretty warm nowadays (wait...)
I'd sit outside with a table, candy, and a sign that says "You HAVE to say trick or treat, change my mind!"
Lol I'm definitely doing this next year
That sounds like such fun! We got none this year. Maybe next time.
Yeah it's a lot of fun. I had a few adults that were there the whole time, but then a bunch of other neighbors/friends wandered in and out throughout the night. Probably had a total of about 10 different people hanging out.
The last time I left a bowl on my porch, literally the first group that came took all the candy and threw the bowl into my lawn. It disincentivized from doing so again.
I did this and they stole the bowl too.
I put a bowl out once. The first kid that came emptied the whole lot into his bag and I had nothing left. So now I keep it inside and if they don't knock it's their loss and I get treats.
I had a doctor's appointment on Halloween a few years ago. I was getting ready to go out, I put out a bowl of candy (nice mix of different chocolates) and went back inside to grab my purse and my test results for the doctor. I was inside for maybe 45 seconds? During which time I heard a couple kids come up to the porch, say something like "What do you think?", and a slight scuffling sound. When I exited the house about 20 seconds later, they'd scooped the entire bowl clean and disappeared.
I knew I'd miss it this year. Honestly, just didn't decorate so no candy. It got me thinking though. Maybe something like an automatic pet feeder can curtail the greedy little shits. Obviously, the feeder would have to be out of reach.
A sentry gun that fires candy corn!
Cheaper to just bribe a couple teenagers and give them slingshots 😁
If it's worth doing, it's worth over-engineering!
That kid will grow up to be very successful in the corporate world.
CEO material.
That's just how economy works. Anyway I always hated to interact with strangers and still do.
No candy for you!
Put a bowl out but in the bowl just have a sign that says "please knock"
It’s a holdover from Covid. It isn’t some glaring indictment of “kids these days”. The social contract changed with Covid and will take time to go back or maybe never does.
Yeah, in my area trunk or treat is the main reason for no trick or treaters these days. It's a very urban area, so getting a lot of candy on foot would be easy, but walking around a parking lot is way quicker. It seems to be what most parents prefer also, so I think it's here to stay.
I loathe trunk or treat. It's not the same as trick or treating, it's cheating. When I was young the only way I got a bunch of candy was to run all over the neighborhood, and then run to the other neighborhoods to squeeze in more. I was out and about, acting the fool, where chicanery abounds. I'd end up at home, exhausted at the end of the night.
Today's kids walk around a parking lot. It's just not the same.
When we were kids halloween was the best. As an adult, there was nothing more I looked forward to than handing out candy, seeing costumes, scaring some kids with all my decorations. But now it's all sanitized and boiled down into the something as ludicrous as walking around a parking lot asking for handouts from cars. What, are they just prepping the nations children for a life of panhandling? Joking aside, it's just not as fun for anyone involved. I don't want to drive somewhere and decorate the fucking trunk of my car (especially when I decorated my house already?), and the kids don't want to walk around a parking lot!
Trunk or treat is the worst solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
It takes a lot of the magic out of it. I'm sure a bit of this is rose-colored glasses, but it was a really neat experience as a kid. The entire neighborhood was out in the streets, people got to know their neighbors, and you felt like you were part of something. These days, it feels spooky due to how empty it is besides cars.
We went to one of the several trunk or treats in our town. I chose one of the less busy ones so my kid could understand what the massive downtown one would be like if she wanted to do that. We waited in line from trunk to trunk for a whole hour, got meh candy, got to get inside emergency vehicles (that was cool), got to see a lot of other people's costumes (also really fun), but mostly it was waiting. Standing mostly still. And then the advertised time came for it to be over, even as people were still waiting in line, tables and cars all broke down and started leaving us in a sad, barren lot. We went trick or treating for the main event after all, and got excellent candy, saw all kinds of cool houses as we actively walked with a friend for as long as we wanted.
Not my favorite. I found a neighborhood that others tend to drive to, which I think is most other people's ideas, so it ends up getting slammed. Which imo would be sort of fun to decorate for
"Trunk or treat" LMAO
Hey everyone, this person kidnaps children.
edit: What the fuck, people? I was just poking fun at their typo.
you act like getting little kids to "trick or treat" sounds any less suspicious
Never heard of it before? It's a pretty common thing.
Lol stop trolling. It was obviously an autocorrect typo.
They're talking about trunk or treat, where a bunch of cars park in a parking lot and hand out candy from the trunks of the cars. Stop being dense.
I have a tube-based distribution system from the second-floor window that I started using during COVID to keep my distance from those plague incubators that came calling, and just never stopped using it.
I live in a moderately cold climate, and Halloween evening nearly always drops to around -5℃ to 5℃. So it’s much nicer to just sit in a cushy armchair by the window with a warm blanket over my legs and drop candy through the tube. A surprising amount of adults, teens, and tweens are tickled pink by that system, although a lot of little kids need a surprising amount of direction to get their candy.
And yes, I always drop either two pieces or - for those in dark hoods and carrying scythes - full-sized snickers.
Ah yes, let's skip the social part and get right to the obligatory consumption.
I don't really care for Halloween, but I don't actively hate it either. I like seeing kids and parents in cute costumes walking around. To me, the whole point has always been one of social activity, of walking around the neighbourhood and showing off your cool costume and such. You know, the whole "reinforcing horizontal social ties" deal we've done since forever.
That’s sad. We only leave the bowl out during the time we are out trick or treating ourselves. All trick or treating is under fire, it seems. Have you heard of trunk-or-treat? Gah. And even people who live in safe areas will like their kids into a car and go drive to some affluent neighborhood where the decorations are fancier and full size bars are being given out. I greatly value the experience of knocking on my neighbors’ doors and it’s sad to see people discount this community building experience.
Yeah, I'm annoyed about that sort of thing, too -- albeit more about the car-brained laziness of parents idling a car from house to house instead of parking and walking with their kids, rather than the class issues -- but that's a different rant.
Thanks, you said what I was thinking but struggling to express.
I think maybe I'll bring it up with my community association, to see if next year we can't make some sort of organized effort to encourage door-answering (and communicate that renewed expectation to trick-or-treaters).
And they drive like lunatics as well. Lots of them drive at high speeds in the night with kids running around and in a vehicle with poor visibility and don't yield to pedestrians. I saw this one car last night weave through some pedestrians crossing the street. Like c'mon... this isn't North Korea. Let them cross the street
My workplace (which isn’t a preschool, but has preschoolers) floated the idea of doing a “trunk or treat.” But my manager nixed it with the explanation that it was “cringey.”
I don’t agree with her on much, but I agree with her on that. Instead we decorated the doors in the center and had the kids practice trick-or-treating the proper way.
That’s a cool solution! I guess if trunk or treat is the only event a place can do it’s better than nothing but I’m glad to hear you got creative about supporting the old ways :)
I think you're looking at it wrong. It's likely not that kids are too lazy to knock but that your neighbors are too lazy to answer the door. The kids see everyone on the street leaving bowls out and assume that if someone on the street doesn't have a bowl, then they're not doing Halloween like everyone else is.
That's not it at all. Literally, my children told me, "I don't want to go up, I just want to go to the houses with bowls". But it's not a lazy thing, it's a social anxiety thing. We don't chat with strangers, we don't make small talk with people we don't know, we don't ask people things we can find out without asking people things. We're socially awkward parents and we have socially awkward children.
Millennials, the ones who would much rather text than call on the phone their dearest friends and closest relatives, are 35-40 years old. They're the ones with halloweening children and those kids are just ask averse to face to face interactions with neighborhood residents as we are.
We must be the good kind of awkward. My kid got an unreasonable amount of candy knocking on doors.
We sit on the porch and pass it out.
This year we offered candy or pickle. We went through a gallon jar of pickles!
A few years back, I handed out candy for friends while they took their kids around the neighborhood, and a group of kids jokingly asked for potatoes. I obliged and grabbed them each a potato from the pantry.
When my friends came back, the potato house was apparently the talk of the kids in the neighborhood.
WTF really? My parents were super anal about anything not prepackaged.
Mine were too. And my wife is usually skeptical of strange baked goods, but a pickle straight out the jar with tongs and tissue paper can't get much safer!
But what if someone hid a Bat'leth inside one of them?
That wouldn't be very warrior like, but let's ignore that. If a klingon wanted you dead, then i think something hidden in the pickle jar is the least of your concerns
Yeah, I hear that’s a thing now. People these days.
(The reference, in case anybody missed it: https://lemmy.world/post/21493783)
Kirkland pickles
The pickle thing is weird. I also would be concerned about contamination.
Do you at least make them say "trick or treat"
LOL put a ginormous bowl on your porch with a sign in it that says RING BELL FOR CANDY
Candy inside. Ring at your own risk. Muah ha. Ha. Ha.
I sit on the porch with the bowl, it's nice to see them walking around. It's easier for both parties, and I can dress up too.
I think it's because fewer houses are doing it, mostly. But I don't understand skipping very decorated houses, and honestly wouldn't leave out a bowl of candy here.
The sitting on the porch thing is traditional here now (my mom sat inside but I'm over 50 now and since being old enough to be on the treating side have always sat out with the candy and that's more usual as far as I can tell) Though my kids always did go up and try if a light was on outside.
Maybe they are also a little more sensible too, lol - a princess last night looked in the bowl and said, nah there's nothing I like, happy Halloween. My kids would have taken some anyway and traded it around, but it is always too much by the time they are done.
Overall I agree, they should yell TRICK OR TREAT but am glad nobody is, like egging your house if you don't have a treat for them.
The last time I was handing out candy at my old neighborhood, kids would ring the doorbell but then they'd just stand there and stare at me until I handed them candy. You're supposed to say "trick or treat"!
Now I live in an apartment, so I don't get trick-or-treaters. (I have candy just in case, but nobody ever knocks.) My roommate went to hang out with his sister and hand out candy at her place, and apparently their neighborhood has decreed that trick-or-treating ends at 7 sharp now so that nobody is out after dark? I don't get it. I thought staying out late (and, for teens, potentially unsupervised) was part of the fun!
That was happening to me sometimes, too. I've tried just standing there without offering the bowl to make it awkward until they figure it out, as well as just straight-up telling them "c'mon, say the words," but it's just so cringeworthy that they don't get it in the first place.
7? I guess as long as it is announced. My neighborhood doesn't start until after 6 so people can get home.
I didn't get a single knock last night.
Spooky decorations, LED candles, WLED providing backup lighting, 12 XL Hershey bars with frozen Snickers as backup.
Not. One. Knock.
Fuck em -- we'll be eating smores all winter. 🤷
I got a knock last night. I had to apologize and say there's no candy - I don't live in the US. We have our own similar traditions on St. Martin's day and St. Catherine's day. The article for the latter even describes it: Wiki, though for either day you can click on the Estonian Wikipedia article to get a more complete description.
I suppose in the coming years I'll have to start stocking candy for Halloween too because I don't really want to disappoint a bunch of kids. Though to be fair, I don't think they did much trick or treating anyway, they mostly just opened their bag and asked for candy - so it felt kinda lazy. When I was a kid, I remember groups of kids would come knock on our door for either Mardipäev or Kadripäev and they'd usually have something like a song or dance prepared, or at least told us riddles.
In the US all you are supposed to do is Knock and say "Trick or Treat".
If I were you, just turn the porch light off. Its the universal sign for "Not home/No candy"
Thanks for that. I ended up in a wiki journey.
I moved to this place 2 years ago starting a lease on November 1st. Got here a day early, so third Halloween. Bought candy both of the first 2 years, and never got a knock on the door. Figured they just don't do it in this area, all going to local Halloween events or such. So I didn't buy candy this year, and poof sudden knocks on the door and I felt like absolute poop telling the kids sorry. Waited till they got down the drive and turned off the entry light so no one knocked after. I'm guessing since it rained all night (including when they came) some of the Halloween events may have been canceled, which made the kids finally come trick or treating.. leaving me tricked and the kids without treats.
That's funny, in my subdivision I had to put a sign up on my door that said "no candy" and I still got multiple knocks!
(I'm a Halloween Scrooge don't judge me)
Is it only me who is surprised that they have a scout to optimise the process?
Candy is serious business
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply it was an organized operation. I think it was more just one kid who was faster/more eager than his buddies. Or maybe just standing next to them but loud, for all I know!
Me and some friends of mine went out “reverse trick or treating” tonight, we carried around a door knocking at houses and giving them candy, and doing the same for any trick or treaters, that kind of thing. We were really disappointed by how few people we saw, and a majority of the houses in the area just had bowls. It made us feel quite sad actually.
I think we were just in an older neighborhood, full of mostly empty nesters with a few younger couples. I hope anyways. There’s a part of me that’s worried that Halloween is like a dying holiday I guess, but maybe that’s just because I’ve gotten older and have a different perspective. Who knows.
Its probably a covid relic or something. Kids knock on my house when I'm not even there cause I have my own kids (and yes, I leave a bowl outside and they still knock)
That seems plausible, except that I've been living here since long before COVID and have been suffering a lack of trick-or-treaters the entire time.
Actually, that reminds me of another failed hypothesis: when I first moved in, the neighborhood was just starting to gentrify and was still a little rough, so at first I figured the lack of trick-or-treaters was due to the lack of families with children in the neighborhood in general. Plenty of 'em now, though.
When the weather is nice like it is this year, we put a table and chairs out on our driveway and decorate it. We sit there and have a drink and pass out candy. It's more fun than answering the door, and we end up chatting with neighbors and parents. Our next door neighbors did the same thing as us this year, and it was even more fun, as they were right next to us hanging out.
That's so weird. When I used to trick-or-treat (not murican so it was different ofc, and also we went to apartment doors instead of houses) I always assumed that if someone had a candy bowl it was just because they weren't home that night, and I think I preferred it when they answered the door and gave us the candy themselves. It was nice to show off my costume and perhaps even get a compliment from an adult pretending to be scared.
Do you live in a sketchy area? That hasn't been my experience at all. We had 90 kids in total knock on our door yesterday for trick or treat!
Not my experience. When I've had no decorations, my house was mostly skipped. When I put a few out with lights on, I got plenty of knocks and rings from both little kids with parents and young teens. And when I was cooking dinner one time, a teen could smell it and asked if they could have some, LOL. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
In our neighborhood a lot of families set up a fire pit in the driveway and hang out passing out candy. It's something we hadn't seen before moving into our neighborhood and we love it.
Yep! One house in our neighborhood always has their grill going in the driveway, giving out hotdogs, another has cider and mini bottles. Firepits and lounge chairs, it's so nice.
I'm glad it is this obvious from the outside. I've felt gaslit ny entire life living here. We're sold this bill of goods, The American Dream, but we have to buy it on credit and it never really meets expectations.
The sad fact is its taken the general population around 50 years to wake up to the klepto-kakistocracy being forged and the only hope I have is that they're overplaying their hands too soon while the general population still has a hope of reversing course peacefully.
Everyone in my area stays outside, no matter the weather. No kids knock on any doors. Also, no one leaves out a bowl, that shit would be gone in minutes. But people are outside with portable fire rings, music, some have cocktails for the adults. It's the only night of the year all of the neighbors are outside and socializing. Honestly it's great.
I went out with my kids and we went to a few houses actually that had lights on outside and inside, told my kids to go to the door and knock, waited a minute or so, and nothing. This was maybe half-a-dozen houses, so it’s not always a given that just knocking on the door will get results. The new “normal” is that people are either waiting outside to hand out candy or they’re leaving bowls out for kids to help themselves. Knocking on the door for trick or treating is a crapshoot and it’d be understandable why most kids will skip that. Compared to other houses, it’s more effort for potentially no reward, or, even if there is a reward, it’s the same as every other house.
Yeah, there's always an oddly large amount of houses in my neighborhood who don't hand out candy. They'll have all the signals of participation: decorations, porch light on, interior light on and nothing. Especially on bad weather nights, the kids only really hit up the visibly active houses.
We usually go to the other side of the neighborhood too, where there's greater participation (our immediate area doesn't have a lot of kids, so not a lot of houses either). Folks probably resent us when we choose to drive due to weather, park and unleash trick or treaters. We're not from out of neighborhood though (just don't want to walk the extra blocks in freezing rain) and even if we were, why does it matter? I put out/hand out candy every year and don't care who takes it. I bought it for the purpose of giving it away after all 🤷♀️. Last few years I've been driving to random street corners that look busy, and hand out while sitting on the trunk of my car, lol.
150 chocolate bars gone! And they had to ring the bell. Its a good neighbourhood for this.
If it came to skipping my house because no bowl, I'd skip Halloween altogether.
You are if course right and they are wrong. But it's possible they learned this by being yelled at by some curmudgeon who sits at home with their lights on, watching TV on Halloween but screaming at anyone who dares ask for candy. And at all the houses with kids, who welcome them, the parent is out chaperoning their little tribe. Ergo bowl. I say parent because of course they're all divorced by the time the kids are walking.
How to teach them right? Put a sign on your gatepost, not at the door, easily seen from the street. Remember, if they're under 3rd grade they're still learning to read, so keep it simple:
RING BELL FOR CANDY! 🎃🍫🍭🍬👻
Once they do that, you can remind them to say Trick or Treat, and/or admire their costumes.
Baby steps.
There’s a lady in my neighborhood who gives out juice boxes instead of candy. She’s become famous for it. In warmer years, trick or treating is thirsty work! I’ve heard that the parents sometimes ask for one.
I took my kids out, one is almost 3 and the other is just over a year. So few houses in our neighborhood had ANY appearance of anyone home, let alone participating that it took nearly two hours to get about 15 houses. In a pretty standard suburb. At least two houses that were heavily decorated had nobody home and no bowl out. Two also had colorful lights but when we knocks on the door they looked confused when there were two toddlers yelling at them. One just shut the door in our face and the other sort of stood there for a minute with his mouth agape and finally said “I don’t have anything”. I mentioned to that guy that he MIGHT want to turn his lights off or there would be kids all night, but walking past at the end of our evening, all his lights were on still.
I left a bowl on my porch and had two small groups of respectful kids each take a couple pieces each (video doorbells have changed the game a little).
I think this is definitely part of it. When I was a kid, lights == giving out candy. Now, tonight, I had multiple trick-or-treaters almost go by my house before they noticed I was sitting outside with a bowl, despite the lights and decorations.
Reading the responses in this thread, I'm kinda starting to think we need to bring the "trick" half of the tradition back so some of these neighbors get a clue.
One of the houses this year had a couple of signs that led you to "knock three times" on the door. It was pretty fun for the kids.
I took my kids trick or treating tonight and, in the neighborhood we go to, everyone who is handing out candy sits on their porch or driveway and it's like a big block party. Nobody goes up to the houses with nobody outside because it's assumed they aren't participating. Being in rural texas, I probably wouldn't let my kids knock on those doors, only if that's what was the norm for the neighborhood. People be crazy out here.
It is because all you had was those weird black and orange taffies. No-one can eat those.
Maybe meet them half way and sit on the porch and hand out candy? I used to go to my parent's house to help them hand out candy and I noticed it took a bit of effort for the smaller kids climb the stairs. There's no railing and knowing how dangerously slick their steps got if they were damp, i started sitting at the bottom to hand out candy.
It seems trick or treating isn't as popular with the kids as it used to be. Ironically, it seems more popular than ever with adults. Some houses I've seen look like they must rent a storage unit to keep all the decorations they put up. We used to fill a set of dad's old clothes with leaves, splap a plastic punkin on top for a head and call it a day
We just finished. We were 0-10 on knocking on doors. Eventually they gave up and kept on trucking.
I left a bowl of candy out once, and some teen boys took the whole bowl.
That's honestly pretty sad. If they don't want candy so be it. Eventually someone will knock.
You gotta be outside chilling shooting the shit with neighbors at the end of your driveway these days. My door would fall off the hinges if I had to open it for every kid
This probably varies significantly place-to-place, all the kids in my neighborhood this year rang my doorbell fine.
When people have moved to leaving candy out, perhaps kids thought that not having them out means you're not participating. Also, when many houses have left them out, for efficiency, it makes sense to only go to those houses.
I'm glad to hear that the sign helped. Shows that some kids aren't just about getting as much candy as possible but also having a bit of fun.
Most of our neighborhood sits outside with the candy and to hang out and see everyone's costumes. They make it very obvious they're handing out candy so when it's knock houses, we're less likely to go
what ours changed to is we'd sit on the porch. we live in a nice warm climate so it doesn't make much difference if we sit in or outside, but the older kids know if your porch light is on, you can knock. If it's off, go away.
I would be mad if some kids would come begging for my candy. MY CANDY! yes I'm fat.
We only had one group visiting on Halloween. But that's due to a decline of Halloween in general in this area - the fad is over. Here it basically started when our kids were young, and there were maybe five to ten groups coming through. But after a few years, it simply declined.
I still buy some sweets - I don't want to disappoint kids - but whatever is left goes into the sweets bowl at work.
I live at the end of a cul de sac with a bunch of killjoys who never give out candy, so kids wouldn't visit my house.
So I take my bucket of candy and go walking around and deliver it to the kids. Plus this means everybody sees my costume.
I took my kids last night and every house had people sitting on the porch with a bowl. None of the houses they knocked on opened the door. There were hundreds of kids around us and I didn’t hear anyone say trick or treat.
Where is the home owner hiding in the bush with a garden hose?
There used to be more trickery. Or Boomers are twisted.
Ours were both types, but people in lawn chairs with a bowl got more attention for sure
When I was a kid in the early-mid 2000s, knocking on the door was always a daunting prospect - people sitting out on their porch or steps were much more approachable, and much more the norm.
I never liked bowels. More fun to hand fist fulls of candy.
Might want to edit that to bowls lol
What you don't agree that handing bowels is bad!?
I used to live in a townhouse and no one would bother going along the row. Finally we got together with other residents and set up a table in the parking lot next to the street. That was a lot of fun hanging out with the neighbors all evening, handing out candy
Pre-COViD we used to take out the screen in our storm door (and after put in glass for winter). It really freaked some people out when we reached through to hand out candy! Even better when someone didn’t keep a good hold on the dog and he leaped through! Of course today I have a pit bull instead of mini poodle so that wouldn’t go over as well
I saw quite a few people sitting outside their houses with their candy ready for the kids. Some even organized them on tables so the kids could come up, pick one, be handed it and go.
Has it always been like this or is this a result of the pandemic?
Going out this year I saw lots of folks just outside their house during the start of trick or treating. It was actually really neat. And I just.. didn't expect it
Out of curosity, how was the weather in your end of the world? We had the same thing happen this year, but mostly because it was unseasonably warm.
Granted, it was also 'cause we had a fog machine this year, but the weather played a big part.
Yeah good point, it was fucked up warm this year
I live in an apartment building on the ground floor, I always tape a sign to my decorated window to inform people where to ring for trick or treating. It works quite well for me, and groups know immediately who is willing to give out candy
My front door faces the courtyard, so you’d have to come through the gate, walk between the house and fence, and then around to the back to knock on the door. My house is one of the older ones in the neighborhood, with big trees and bushes and no porch light or anything. I’ve never had a trick-or-treater knock on my door. Maybe I should get a massive, highly coveted bag of candy just in case someone does - and then just give them the whole thing.
Idk, in my area they knock on the door and it most often than not starts so early that were not even done eating. It's usually so busy here that we have to stay at the door outside and we're out of candies by the time the older kids start arriving when it's actually dark
We hand it out - one chocolate and 2 non-chocolate. I do most of it because my husband lets them put their disgusting paws in the bowl and take handfuls.
ETA: you could put out a bowl with a little candy and reload it after each kid/group.
I’ve done Halloween for the first time in the uk with my 2 year old, and we passed a few lightly decorated doors (apartment block). Most other flats had a bowl of candy outside and is this one not having it, we were not sure if we could knock or not. I found myself thinking that they were out or didn’t want to be bothered. It has become very unclear. I think next year even if I’m at home (before we go trick or treating) I will put a sign on the door if I want them to knock, so I make it clear to all.
The houses that do leave bowls are my favorite, the kids trick or treat as normal but when there's a bowl-house I take one extra for dad lol
I leave a bowl out, and this year I had a trash can out in case anyone needed it. At the end of the night, the only thing in it was an empty hard cider bottle. Had a laugh
Nice, trash can is a pro gamer move. We came up to a house and all the guy was giving out was bottled water. After the kids nagging about being thirsty for the first 30 minutes that guy was an MVP too - had a sit on his lawn while the three kids sat and silently quenched their thirst. 10/10 trick or treating QoL updates.
I had a similar situation, and even if I left out a bowl on the porch, the kids would look but keep walking. Finally figured out that some neighbors had shared a link to my Megan's Law profile on Nextdoor.
put a sign on your door next year, and report back on how well it works lol.
I see you did it this year, but doing it again next year should also increase the amount of visitors. We do a little science.
lmao that Skinner reference though 😆👌
They've grown up in a world where immediate gratification is expected.
I know every generation says that about younger generations, but perhaps that's because with every generation it just gets worse and worse.
No, they’ve grown up in a world where knocking on doors gets you fucking shot lmao
Lemmyml moment
We don't get many trick or treaters in my neighborhood so I usually do just a leave a bowl out because I can't be bothered to wait by the door for a couple of groups.
Never had a problem with it until this year when some little shits clearly took all of the candy for themselves shakes fist at the clear downfall of society
I took my kids trick or treating and didn't observe anything like what you're describing. Pretty sure you made this up. Congrats on the internet points though!
"I've never seen it therefore it must not have happened". I can't imagine how you're a parent while thinking human experience revolves around you.
Why would you automatically doubt this? You are aware there are other places outside where you live, and different things happen there, right?
There is never and has never been a legitimate reason for anyone to use the phrase "kids these days".
Kids these days are getting shot in schools.
Maybe take your irony detector to the repair shop, I think it may be faulty
Ok Boomer.
You get between 5-730 in a lot of neighborhoods to do trick or treating. It's a school night. I'm not spending a cumulative extra 30 minutes of my time watching my kid stand by the door so your old ass can slide off the couch and mosey over to the door and slowly talk to my kids individually about their costumes. And by some weird extension try to make small talk with me or a parent.
If your lonely, go to a bar. I'm trying to run these street with my kids and make some real candy profit.
Just put the fries in the bag, dude.
EDIT : Downvote me all you want. You're the ones sitting inside instead of putting out a table in your driveway like every other house next to you. Social holidays evolve naturally and this is one of those times. Trunk or treating and drive way exhibitions is the new Halloween.
Damn dude, doesn't even go till his kids say they're cold. Why get a late bedtime on a holiday?
Growing up we always stayed out extra late on Halloween, even as a young child. An im not that old either.
My kids are younger. I've been doing this long enough to know which houses are going to spend time on each kid. Which is fine...except my kids and the neighbor kids I was walking through our neighborhood did have time for that.
If you just want a bunch of candy, go to Walmart.
Okay. Or....my kids are walking around with a gaggle of neighbors and we are all socializing. And then we have to go "that one guys house" where we sit and watch as he wastes 10 minutes while we're 2 miles deep into a neighborhood. And kids have finite energy.
But if you don’t get the amount of candy you want in the end (and even with a slow pace my kids have always had more candy than they could ever finish), just buy some more. Who cares about the excess of candy?
Because it's the experience my kids want. And they don't just "go buy more candy" considering their 10 and 7.
Ohhhh nOOO ten minutes???
Just drop your poor kid off with one of his friends and stay home yourself, you sound like you ruin everyone's good time all the time.
Nope we had a great time. And they're 7 and 10. Old enough to not want to bother walking all the way up to a door and waiting.
Oh, don't you worry your sweet little head, we will.