Bluesky sees record signups day after Musk says X will go paid-only

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Just around 24 hours after Musk made his comments, more than 42,000 new users joined Bluesky, making it the biggest signup day yet for the currently invite-only platform that launched earlier this year.

Bluesky saw a total of 53,585 new signups by the end of Tuesday, September 19. The new users gained in that single day make up 5 percent of the platform's entire user base of 1,125,499 total accounts.

The new user signups are tracked via the third-party website "Bluesky Stats." Looking over Bluesky signup numbers on the tracker for the past month, it appears that the platform usually sees from 10,000 to 20,000 new signups per day. Bluesky has doubled its usual daily new user numbers already, with many more hours left in the day still to go.

It's impossible to know whether Musk's comments about charging users to post on X really played a role in this, but it almost certainly had some effect.

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Great another social media platform from the same fart huffing dumb asses that sold Twitter... it's like people don't learn lessons.

Americans be like "I like fascism I just don't like THIS fascism"

FYI jack isn't in control of the site and in fact even deleted his account after the userbase mocked him hard enough, he's all in on nostr now

Also it has federation in testing in a sandbox environment open to external developers, it will work similarly to Mastodon in that regard

"Mr Dorsey, ypur new platform is picking up, people are starting to use it"

"... I'm bored"

"Excuse me?"

"I don't want to have a social platform. I just want to make them" *Starts to leave*

"Mr. dorsey? Where are you going? Jack!?"

"Federation", yeah...

it will work similarly to Mastodon in that regard

Nope, it works more similar to MTProto for Telegram.

Uhm no not at all, 3rd party servers already exists and people can talk across them, telegram has no relevance here

I love that I mentioned fart huffing and you automatically assumed I meant Jack.

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This is a problem. Bluesky is privately-owned and will do same shit.

Here are some explainations. And more.

It's also controlled by another crypto shill, so it has that in common with Twitter too.

isn’t bluesky invite only?

Each current member usually get at least one invite to share biweekly. That’s how they have been growing it.

Google+ did the same thing when it rolled out, then they tried to force people to use it before they cancelled the project.

In fairness, Gmail had a similar invite system when it launched and that's been way more successful than G+

Gmail was also both "federated" and an insanely good product compared to its contemporaries. G+ had a couple of interesting innovations, but it wasn't all that special and invite-only on a closed ecosystem is very iffy.

Gmail was literally the best. 1GB space at launch when you'd get a dozen MB in Hotmail and others, slick fast UI in a browser.

And you got more space the longer you had the account! Then everyone got the same no matter what. I was sad to loose all that free space.

IIRC, that was rolled out as a surprise after a few years. People were just like, "WTF, my capacity is getting bigger?". For a while there, Goggle could do no wrong from a marketing standpoint. That, uhh, changed.

Hotmail was 2mb.

It was ad free which was amazing for a social media site at that time. No banners, no pop ups, just content.

Gmail was invite only at first probably because Google didn't want it to grow faster than they could buy hard drives. It gave you a gigabyte of email storage which at the time was huge. I'm certain they did that for technical reasons.

It gave you a gigabyte of email storage which at the time was huge.

You're right, but for those who may not know the details or the impact at the time, Google was offering 500x more storage - at the free tier - than some of the competition - hotmail - who were charging people for just 10 MB of storage. This forced hotmail to increase its free tier to 250 MB and 2 GB for customers paying $20 USD/year.

Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20230815014711/https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/hotmail-to-offer-250mb-of-free-storage/

It's hard to explain what an absolute paradigm shift Gmail was. It was about as drastic a difference as you could have with personal email without altering the core service. Orders of magnitude more storage, completely free to the end user, a responsive and usable web interface, a single unobtrusive 1-line text ad when we were used to at least half a dozen that were often full-size banners or even popups, and a good search tool.

My wife (then fiancee) got us invites, and it was like Christmas. And all from the company that was way less creepy than Microsoft! I'm sure that part would never change.

Might Bluesky be doing the same?

Slow roll until the infrastructure can handle it and a little bit of that "exclusive" feel to it since not everyone can just join immediately.

Yeah they're working hard on scaling, they've had recurring performance issues but have managed to get it stable again even with higher load now

It's also easier to find and fix bugs with smaller numbers of people, especially performance bugs which can be amplified at scale. So it gives them a lot of time to work through issues over the beta. It also gives them time to build teams around the expanding infrastructure and build processes for monitoring and handling issues as a larger team.

Plus, these invite only periods start with more tech savy early adopters who more willing to put up with issues, and willing to provide decent bug reports to fix them.

"i am the choosen one!" As if...

Boy, our servers are ducktaped!

I'm still salty about that. Google+ was fantastic on release. Simple, clean, elegant, and fast. Then they steadily, systematically fucked it up. By the time it was cancelled, it had become unusable.

G+'s downfall was they kept it invite-only too long. Demand was there, people wanted in but Google was like, "Nah..."

By the time it was open-access, everyone had moved on or back to their old social media platforms. It could've been great, but Google, in typical Google fashion, got distracted by something shiny and killed it.

The sad thing is, if they'd thought even a tiny bit laterally and leveraged the fact that Google Reader was getting a lot of traction and a core of people were beginning to use its social functions, they could have backdoored themselves into being Digg/Reddit/Etc. and had the social media userbase to take on Facebook organically.

Instead, they fought the last war (Gmail vs Hotmail), intentionally eroded and then killed Reader, and with G+ they completely fucked up what was a cleaner interface (if not all that special) and a better technological experience, all while they were a brand that was at that time more trusted than their competitors.

Yep. Once they screwed up G+, I committed to never becoming dependent on any Google service beyond Drive and Gmail, and only those two because they're completely untouchable - Google couldn't break those without having a mass rebellion on its hands.

So, in the shape of a pyramid? Sounds like a good business model. I wonder if anyone has ever done that before? (yes, it's a joke)

Yup. I have a bunch of invites (for sane people only)

If I could have one, I'm waiting for months now. :(

I requested an invite a couple of months ago when I downloaded the app. Wish someone would invite me!

Yes, that's part of what's surprising about the number.

Yes but I'm sure many recorded invites and didn't bother. Musk musking TSFKAT ( the-site-formerly-known-as-twitter) was the needed motivation to accept it.

I didn't bother and was gonna give it a walk around. Downloaded but can't access without an invite.

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I’ve been trying to get an invite since June.

Apparently if you ask, you’re not good enough or some shit.

You’re not missing anything. I eventually got an invite, found that 40% of the content was furry and I deleted my account.

Invite only is a fascinating choice for a social network that requires network effect to succeed.

Gmail is the most famous/successful example but interesting to note that email is a federated network that can interoperate with every other email address too.

What about this bluesky network?

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I wonder why people aren’t going for mastodon.

Mastadon (and the Fediverse in general, to some extent) has problems with discoverability and the average user finds federation confusing. People tend to either use microblogging to see what's going on with people they're interested in or to broadcast their activities to a large group of people, and Mastadon currently doesn't fit that niche very well.

Pretty much this. It's why I love it for my use case (microblogging journal that only I can see), but it's definitely not for everyone else.

It's why if your average influencer or news consumer wants a Twitter alternative, it's likely Threads or perhaps BlueSky, not Mastodon.

The same reason people aren't going for Lemmy.

Aside from the fact that the Fediverse is an incredibly confusing concept to the average user, those same users are entrenched and connected to everyone they already want to be connected to on the same platform. Until they are essentially forced to move, they'll stay on Twitter. The people on Lemmy and Mastodon right now are a tiny but vocal minority compared to the massive userbases of the platforms they abandoned.

Yeah there really needs to be a rethink of how the Fediverse works.

I don't want to have to subscribe to 8 different "Games" subs each with under 3000 users.

It really should be like "topics" more than "sublemmys" (or whatever) where every post on the Fediverse tagged "games" will appear on your feed when you subscribe to the topic.

The topics still get moderated by the local instance topic moderators and instances can defederate from troubled instances, but discoverability would improve exponentially.

Maybe how it could work is sublemmies could agree to link up and share posts so for example the posts from one games sub would appear in the other games sub and vice versa.

It seems the limitation with the topics idea is who would decide what the topics are? Would there just be a list of like 20 topics baked into Lemmy and people that create sublemmies would tag their sub with a topic? I think the only limitation with that is there would be so many niche subs that don't fit cleanly into one topic, or will be drowned out by the big subs in there maybe. Maybe it could work though if anybody could create new topics, then there could be a Fallout for example with the Fallout subs being in that rather than having to be in the games topic and being drowned out

Yeah it sorta needs to be back to hashtags to tag content so that it can all be in a community despite being in different instances and subs. It's really disjointed and currently the fediverse feels like we went back to AOL chat rooms where it's a lot of people waiting in their own room for someone to come in and talk to them.

It doesn't work and it doesn't really inspire conversation anymore.

Yeah it is like that unfortunately. I mean the larger subs are fine but the niche ones just aren't working on Lemmy atm and some way of addressing the sub splintering would help a lot. And yeah hashtags would probably be a solid way of addressing it.

Aside from the fact that the Fediverse is an incredibly confusing concept to the average user

How did the average user ever figure out email?

I'm on there, but I use Twitter and mastodon as a follower, I don't post. So until most of the 40ish people I follow move I'm stuck with Twitter if I want to see their posts. And I do.

depending on how popular the user is on Twitter, you may be able to follow them on Mastodon via https://bird.makeup/. I use it to follow things like larger content creators, NHL teams, stuff like that.

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I was interested in it but at the end of the day Dorsey got Twitter into its initially mediocre state, and he's endorsed RFK Jr. as well as Musk's purchase of Twitter. So should I really expect it to be any better? I'll keep an eye on it but my expectations aren't terribly high.

and he's endorsed RFK Jr.

Gross. Yeah Dorsey sucks generally.

as well as Musk's purchase of Twitter.

But I don't hold this part against him. If some moron came along and offered to drastically overpay for my house, for example, I'd endorse the fuck out of that even if he's a shitheel.

"I have never met Elon, and by all accounts he is terrible. However, I have seen the yacht that he paid for, and it is terrific."

Did you not read the text messages between them? Jack was being a real fan boy

Of course he's endorsed Musk purchasing Twitter, he made billions off it

I signed up just to see the hype, and it's the same boring Twitter, with less commitment. People just grabbing namespace.

Excuse me, signups on an INVITE ONLY platform?

I have few invites if anyone needs

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I firmly believe Elon is trying to run Twitter out of relevancy, or business entirely.

Lose $42 billion speed run challenge

Who holds WR in EU%? You know, where endgame is getting wrecked by anti-monopoly agency.

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I agree but I don't understand why. What motivated him to sink 1/4th of his net worth into Twitter then kill it?

Knowing this nutter he's probably doing it so people can't talk about the crappy Tesla QC.

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  1. The jet tracker

  2. Twitter is a huge place where leftists organize

  3. Probably wants to pull a reddit and push Trump

  1. I wouldn't say that. It was filled with far-right and some people who like others to suffer and bring to suicide indie game developers.

It's also used by fascists but there have been a lot of genuine leftist organizing going down deep in the cracks of that hellsite.

The lawsuit he was destined to lose. Why do people here so often act like this was his masterplan all along? He fucked around and tried to back out, then Twitter sued him into buying the company. From what I can tell this is just Musk being Musk, reportedly he has surrounded himself with yes-men.

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If that were true, the investors who paid him billions for the take over will want his head on a spike.

If you'd know who these investors are, you'd know running twitter to ground is their goal at this point as well

Ok, but why though? How do you make money when the stock value is falling?

The theory is they're not trying to make money, but is trying to make it harder to use Twitter for organizing protests or share ideas that threaten their status quo.

Interesting. So are you saying there’s government money behind this?

Biggest investor is Saudi Arabia.

Ok, so this is just a way to prevent another Arab spring from happening. Seems like a smart move until you realize that people have lots of alternative platforms too. It’s a bit more fragmented, so organizing a demonstration on mastodon probably won’t get that big that fast.

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I suspect that might have been their intent but they didn't tell Musk. They knew him doing his best would be enough to tank it.

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As Twitter is a big PR tool for Ukraine he’s again doing Putin a favour.

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what the fuck is Bluesky

It’s Jack Dorsey’s “Twitter but federated this time”, except there is only 1 instance, run by Jack…. But don’t worry, “Trust me bro” it will totally be federated/open.

Maybe it will be but until it is it’s just as bad as Twitter.

So is it going to be part of the fediverse at one point or will it be a separate federation?

separate federation, they use their own home-grown protocol called ATProto

Ahh as an alternative to Activity Pub or whatever it's called? That's a shame

Ahh as an alternative to Activity Pub or whatever it's called?

Seems like it

God.. I've been on the "fediverse" for months and

A: have no clue what it is

And

B: am not even entirely sure I'm on it anymore

Love Lemmy but lol this is getting confusing, is Mastodon on Lemmy or.. just federated or.. sheesh I need to search this

The fediverse is basically anything that uses some means of connecting to other sites. A lot of them now use ActivityPub, a standard for this kind of thing.

Mastodon isn't "on" Lemmy, but they can communicate with each other

It doesn't really matter. If you find value in using it, just keep using it.

That hasn't been specified, which suggests they're aiming for the latter.

Always good to see more people looking into platforms besides Twitter, plenty of great places out there

Until they sell that platform too and you have to grow your follower base somewhere else yet again.

Bluesky has federation in testing in a sandbox open to external developers, already interoperating with 3rd party implementations

has federation

Hahaha, no. It's like MTProto in Telegram, but without being honest that it's centralized.

Every single component have 3rd party implementations or an alternative which doesn't depend on them (standard account DID lookups go through their servers but web DID is fully independent). The options he says nobody will create ALREADY EXISTS

The protocol literally doesn't allow them to be gatekeepers.

The protocol literally doesn't allow them to be gatekeepers.

Authentication is heavily tied to their servers

You can initialize your account with your own DID key using web DID instead of the current (technically placeholder DID) and you won't be dependent on their servers for authentication. Especially in the federation sandbox that's available for 3rd parties

From what you say I can approximate how it will go. First perpetual in-dev federation, then once they get enough people, they will say "not enough interest in federation" and stop development or pull the plug completely.

Except federation is already functional with 3rd party implementations. Sure it's possible they would choose to diverge in the official implementation in a closed branch, but that would not stop the rest of the clients from working. It's like if the biggest Mastodon instance went proprietary and shut down federation, the people who care would leave.

The main things they're working on are moderation tools suitable for federation as well as scaling

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People are so desperate for anything RESEMBLING twitter, that they'll sign up for a trash service like BS.

Mastodon undoubtedly has more brand recognition at this point.

Honestly, before reading this comment I never noticed that BlueSky shortens to BS, lol

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I'm so glad people are calling Bluesky out for the trash service it is. I just mastodon outlasts this crap and we get more people on there than bluesky

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Who is the target audience for BlueSky? BlueSky's tech isn't as open or developed as the alternatives though, is it?

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Not sure why I asked that first question, answer's obvious, so it was more out of frustration I think. Sort of in a similar way towards people moving to Threads or any other corporate social media again after getting screwed before.

it's invite only, which first makes you think, "oh cool - no spammers!"

but then you realize you just need one spammer to get in and now they only invite spammers, and control their invites... as a form of spam! Flooding the net with "cheap" invite codes (only $10!) and multiplying.

Invite only makes people think no spammers? Have they never been in any space with minimal obstacles to entry like that? Any place people are, there's going to be someone or some activity you don't care for.

Makes me think of folks thinking there will be fewer annoying people in online games with sub fees. 😂

Seems pretty easy to control though.

Once spammer is detected, you just ban them and the account that invited, all the way up a down that invite tree.

And in the process nuke every legitimate user who may have used their codes, great way to build trust in a new platform. You can't even vet users to see if they are spammers or not because you need an account to view the service.

Wellp, Nintendo intentionally breaks their own games if you pirate their stuff. Not allowing bribes is a simmlar looking situation. "This product is defective the last person who had their hands on it mustve screwed it up somehow."

Nintendo intentionally breaks their own games if you pirate their stuff.

I'm not aware of them doing this all that often. In fact, it's more something that game developers do from time to time, rather than Nintendo specifically. The classic one being when they introduce a bug that only affects the pirated release, then every time they get a report on that bug they know the user pirated their copy.

Yeah I'm not sure what exactly they're referring to. if they're referring to the N64 games that was the developer Rare who did it, not Nintendo, Nintendo is just the publisher. If it's related to Switch games then it's possible they're referring to Online only games or the many many Piracy-related myths as well as disinformation that plagues the Switch Modding scene to this day.

or the many many Piracy-related myths as well as disinformation that plagues the Switch Modding scene to this day.

I mean I've been running a cracked Switch for years, and while my finger isn't on the pulse entirely I'm not aware of any of this either. They definitely ban people (I've had one banned) but even then you can still use the device, just not online or in their store (as if you were in there much anyway).

The bigger issue in the Switch modding scene is that half the developers are divas.

Some examples of the misinformation include:

  • banning preventing people from using Installed Software (one person actually referred to it as bricked)

  • Bans preventing use of Wifi hardware (FTP or Local play)

  • Banned Cartridges will get other Switches banned, or that cartridges are still getting banned

Things like that are the most egregious ones.

Lately though it's mostly been what is ban worthy and what isn't. For that there are two camps, there are the conspiracy minded, and there are the more reasonable people.

For conspiracy theorists it's as simple as plugging in RCM (or Booting from the Modchip if they have that instead) and booting into Stock, that's enough for them to consider ban worthy. Some of them draw the line later at the actual firmware but the thing that these claims usually share is that they lack data backing them. It's usually influencers who make these types of claims (hence why it's become a cultural phenomenon, Yay 😒).


The more reasonable ones group the actions that are and aren't ban worthy through testing and historical evidence which is mainly:

Guaranteed Ban:

  • Piracy
  • Custom NSPs
  • Cheating In Online games (includes save editing and some LayeredFS patches)
  • Log Tampering (Using an EmuMMC can cause mismatches if used online)
  • Account Tampering (custom PFP)
  • Hacking the servers (CDN abuse, bans both console and account)

Things that don't cause bans:

  • Booting Package3 (bootloader)
  • Booting into Atmosphere
  • Overclocking (is dangerous, but not ban worthy)
  • Homebrew games + Emulation using package Override (holding R when launching a title)

Things still up for debate:

  • Use of themes
  • Use of NTP time changer
  • Cheating in Offline games

(They also give methods for preventing bans, unlike the first kind of people like Using emuMMC to separate Identities, blocking Nintendo domains in the hosts file, and even using Incognito to erase the Identifier data.)


Unfortunately Popular Culture tends to prefer the first type of person's opinion so I've found that when discussing Homebrew with people outside of the community it can lead to some pretty nutty arguments, even going back to ones from before, such as banning cartridges.

The bigger issue in the Switch modding scene is that half the developers are divas.

That is very true, many of them are assholes, I visited GBAtemp's politics section and was astonished to find out how many of them are Bigots, at least judging by the crap they spouted about "pronouns being forced" and "not wanting to call a man Ma'am" really disgusting shit that no respectable person should ever say. Nor should any forum ever put up with (basically GBAtemp is a Nazi bar).

Some examples of the misinformation include:

  • banning preventing people from using Installed Software (one person actually referred to it as bricked)
  • Bans preventing use of Wifi hardware (FTP or Local play)
  • Banned Cartridges will get other Switches banned, or that cartridges are still getting banned

Those all just seem like misunderstandings from users who aren't tech savvy, coupled with a little bit of urban legend gossip.

  • It's possible to brick your Switch in a handful of ways, but that doesn't mean Nintendo did it.
  • Officially the wifi is only used to connect to Nintendo services, so a user might think that the wifi doesn't work when Nintendo doesn't work (because they're banned).
  • Stories about dodgy cartridges have always been a thing.

Unfortunately Popular Culture tends to prefer the first type of person’s opinion so I’ve found that when discussing Homebrew with people outside of the community

Hah, yeah homebrew stuff isn't generally meant for proper conversation. You're either interested and ok with it, or you see it as just about piracy.

Yeah I think many of them serious misunderstandings by the people who posted the videos and articles, though also some of them seem to have been to cause fear since many of them tried to make it seem like they knew what they were talking about.

I don't think the ones who talked about systems being bricked actually knew what bricked means since they also said in the same breath "it can only play cartridges", which isn't what happens when bricked, in fact as I know from recovering a Switch with Prodinfo_gen that's one of the things a previously bricked system likely can't do if you had to generate a new prodinfo from scratch without a donor.

I could normally forgive the wifi misconception normally, however in the case of the person who was talking about Wifi not working when banned they explicitly stated that Local play between Switches won't work anymore, even when offline, which obviously isn't correct.

In the case of cartridge banning which was a thing it was always the cartridges themselves that were banned, but many news outlets both tried to frame it as if it was the user who would get their account banned, they also tried to make it seem like it's an Ongoing issue and that it's the end of used game sales.


I agree that homebrew stuff isn't really the best thing to talk about with most people who don't understand it well enough, usually does come up though in discussions whenever I open my Home Screen since I do have custom Themes with Wildly different layouts that obviously aren't stock (this is the one I'm using at the moment, but I have a few others I cycle through to keep things fresh).

Invite only is a technique that becomes a hinderance and gimmic after about 100k members.

God I hope he gets gaslit into actually making Twitter a subscription. It would be so funny

I'm starting to suspect he only wanted Twitter to kill it..

It is weird how he's just completely running it into the ground... I don't really buy that though because he never actuslly wanted the company and only bought it because a court forced him to. Also I honestly don't think he'd want to wash 44 big ones down the drain just to own the libs.

All I can think of is that he's just... maybe kind of an idiot and has just gotten lucky so far lol? It's the only thing that fits as far as I can see.

Some have suggested that the purchase was partly to prevent a second Arab spring. Saudi funding and increased cooperation make it a possibility but I’m not sold on any particular idea besides “avoid everything Elon touches.” Why anyone stayed on ragebait bot network: the website is beyond my understanding.

Switch to Mastodon. It's a great alternative.

Strange to measure it against an invite only site, I would love to sign up but I haven’t been able to find invites. I think between Mastodon, Bluesky & Threads via ActivityPub (eventually) will get most of my communities back.

I love Mastodon & prefer it in many ways but there just aren’t enough people there. The tech & dev community is lively, everything else is essentially non-existent.

It's a convenience article. They're just reporting some number they have access to.

And why Threads instead of Mastodon if you belive it will use ActivityPub.

The tech & dev community is lively, everything else is essentially non-existent.

Broners are pretty active there. Biggest instance is equestria.social, some people use or run smaller instances, some use GP instances.

Threads has momentum and easy signups, it’s simple for people. I wouldn’t use it myself directly but I’m sure it would help expand the communities that are available via a Mastodon client.

Do you want one? I have a spare.

Sure, that would be amazing. Thank you!

I just realized I have no idea how to pm someone on here

Not sure via the mobile apps, and there are so many. From the regular Lemmy web interface, you just tap their name anywhere which takes you to their profile and then tap “Send Message” in the top right corner.

Bluesky, the "decentralized" X-alternative social media platform

"The" alternative platform?? Shots fired.

Serious question, why would you consider Bluesky? I would argue that mastodon is "the" decentralized social media platform, I mean it's not owned by some billionaire; and if you mostly care about audience size, nothing beats twitter. I've never felt any inclination to try bluesky for these reasons.

And Threads?

Or Mastodon?

Yes, I also want to know how it is affecting the Mastodon user base.

I found this which has registrations and posts for mastodon / fediverse over hour / day / week / month but it breaks it out by instances so can be a bit difficult to tell overall. Here's mastodon in the last 7 days for example.

I'd bet mastodon saw an increase, but i haven't seen the numbers.

It's also hard to get a good count since it's not centralized. So whatever numbers we do see, could be wildly underreported.

I refuse to touch anything related to Facebook. I'm shocked that people would use Threads or Instagram for that matter.

Not sure if I’m getting suckered into conspiracy theories with regards to Elon, the Saudis, Russia and Twitter but this article has an interesting (albeit extreme) take on the matter.

“No, Elon and Jack are not “competitors.” They’re collaborating.”

https://davetroy.medium.com/no-elon-and-jack-are-not-competitors-theyre-collaborating-3e88cde5267d

Medium is a bad source but there's truth that Bluesky's CEO is a musk toesucker.

Glad cracker musk is losing money over this, I just wish people wouldn't just jump into the next boiling pot because the current one got too hot.

I want to like it but they refuse to open up the platform still after Twitter keeps handing them opportunity after opportunity and I'm afraid their chances to succeed are going to wane.

They're focusing on scaling and moderation tools that can handle federation better (especially spam management), they don't think that's ready yet. But you can federation it in their sandbox environment

How do you sign up? I'm on the wait list for about a half year.

Yeah, I suspected this would be a real point of no return. Mastodon will also benefit, but naturally the fediverse isn't the first thing people think of. Fortunately, Mastodon has been working on this.

rain is wet. hope they like starting new instances here. feel the fediverse creaking already

Can't say I've felt any such issues. Probably comes down to you being on the biggest instance.

How is it on shakey ground, We may for a while just stay niche but active and high quality.

Maybe they just don't have the infra (and if they still don't, I don't believe they ever will). Turn off invites and make it open-season or shut the whole thing down. It's not a competitor like this.

Scaling is hard. You need time for hard things

Really liking Bluesky so far, hope it picks up some steam soon. It really is something special and way less confusing (at least for me) than Mastodon.

E: But to add, let's face it, no decentralized platform will ever replace a centralized one unless something major happens. I just don't see the mainstream adopting Bluesky/Mastodon/Nostr unless something incredibly drastic happens. As much as I'd love for Bluesky to get some more steam, it won't at this rate. People want to get on it, but can't.

What's confusing about Mastodon? Just join a random server and you can find everyone else on any other server. (Or are these called 'instances'? I don't know or care, fact is it works without problems.)

I saw a claim that Elon never said that but actually said: we will ad a lower cost tier.

I’ve been on the waitlist for awhile now. I don’t know anyone on it so I can’t get a code, unfortunately. Wish I was

I got an invite from the only person I actually know on it and it's not bad. I'm interested, but still messing around with it to get the most out of it.

Waitlist? Are you in USSR?

Bluesky's really highkey. You need an invite or gotta sit on the waitlist for months to get an account. Real elite stuff.

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If anyone has a Bluesky invite lying around, I wouldn't mind a PM.

Pretty pleeease. 😁

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