Dredd. Karl Urban absolutely nailed that role, and all without ever showing the top half of his face.
Sadly Dredd didn't make enough money to recoup their production costs, while it was in theaters. It's been estimated that Dredd made around $20 million in the Home Market. This means how many DVD and Blu-ray sales they made. I wasn't able to find any info on streaming numbers unfortunately.
I still hold out hope that a sequel is made and released before the end of the decade.
If Dredd is the movie I'm thinking of, I would assume VHS sales outpaced both Bluray and dvd sales combined! Didn't that movie come out in 1995?
That was Judge Dredd. They're talking about the remake, I think.
Aye, the 2012 movie staring Karl Urban, not the 1995 dumpster fire starring Stallone.
It's probably because I was drunk when I watched Judge Dredd in the theater, but I seem to remember liking Stallone in that. I thought that Dredd was just a worse rip-off of The Raid, but then I read somewhere that they basically co-evolved to a similar thing.
Judge Dread was a fine movie for people who are into that sort of movie (and I am) but it was a pretty terrible adaptation of the comics.
As a Stallone movie it's entertaining in a "brain off eat popcorn" way, same sorta feel as Demolition Man (which was fun). It's only once you understand the material that it's supposed to be adapting that you feel like you were cheated.
It also depends on your ability to not leave when Rob Schneider shows up and starts Rob Schneidering all over the damn screen.
That makes sense. I enjoyed the first Tom Cruz Reacher movie. Then I read a handful of the books, and was just very disappointed in the casting.
I mean... Werner Herzog telling a man to eat his own fingers was pretty great. But otherwise yeah.
District 9
I might be in the minority but Chappie was a really good movie. It’s a real bummer Die Antword were so horrible to work with that the director kinda gave up on it.
I never understood why they thought it would be a good idea to have them in it. It's not like they are known well enough to have a huge pull
I actually watched the movie because of them.
Stumbled upon the band on youtube, and I'd never heard anything like it before.
I used to love them until the stories of them being fucking horrible people came out. They've been accused of rape, human trafficking and slavery.
so, average Cape Town citizens
I saw Chappie for the first time last week and was moderately devastated to find out there isn't going to be sequels. It had so much style, humor and personality!
I remember reading that they were trying to get District 10 done?
Yeah, but before the director made several more movies that were all bad. I don't know how he keeps getting work.
And yet people keep giving Snyder money to make movies for stupid teenage boys.
Yeah, that's another that makes no sense to me. People largely dislike all his recent works. "Let's give him a huge budget for a two part star wars fan fic!"
Snyder has an amazing eye for action. Sucker Punch, 300, and Watchmen were all amazing visual/auditory feasts. Everything else about his movies is just average to below average, though.
Giving him a Star Wars makes perfect sense when you consider what Disney thinks of the Star Wars audience. "Just give them laser sword and space ships and explosions and they'll be happy."
Blomkamp is better in every way. I think he got blacklisted because the money guys didn't like his social commentary.
I personally wouldn't put him above Snyder in the visuals category, but I respect your opinion and I don't think you're way off or anything. I can see having that preference.
Teenage boys deserve some love and movies!
Yeah, I was too harsh.
I mean, stupid teenage boys will spend what money they have to hang out with their friends... So, it's a viable audience.
His stuff at least manages to make money somehow, so that makes some kind of sense from a money worship point of view. I doubt Blomkamp's movies raked in as much cash though.
And yet M. Night still makes movies. You can’t explain that!
Bloody prawns!
The Matrix
Yeah, a real shame, that
Jurassic Park
.... can we just pretend? Please?
Unpopular opinion, I actually really like the third one
............uhhhhhhh, I would ask your mom if she smoked while pregnant with you. There's clearly something wrong with the development of how your brain came out.
Look, I'm not saying any of them come close to the original, but imo it's the second best of the series (including all the dogshit jurassic worlds) because it sticks to what made the first one great; small amount of people trapped on an island with dinos. The Lost World was like half that but then it turns in to some weird almost king kong-esq thing. Also i love me some Goldblum but he's better as a foil imo and Chris Pratt has nowhere near the gravitas as Sam Neil. Like really besides the annoying parents what do you not like about the third one?
U can just say Téa Leoni is hot
Sure she is, but not in that movie :D
What was wrong with the second movie?
It became a parody of Godzilla movies for no real reason. And it came out of nowhere. I call it the movies 4th act.
Jurassic World is a guilty pleasure of mine.
It's good enough to grip you and at the same time so predictable and full of clichés it's also funny.
Plus, Chris Pratt and Bryce Dallas Howard are both hot as hell.
Why pretend? There's never were a sequel. Fanfic, yes, not sequel.
Promised Neverland s1
I think you wanted to post a top level comment.
I did not.
::: spoiler spoiler
The matrix, jurrasic park, and promised Neverland all got sequels that most people think are shit.
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I really don't get the hate for the second two.
There was a bit more to the story and required paying attention. The second two had more action that's wasn't directly related to the story but was still good.
As much as I tried to like 4 it was crap.
What's up with denying the trilogy? The shitty PC era movie I get it. But the sequels were excellent, the symbolism and how smith is defeated it's brilliant. I bet you wanted a copy of the first movie.
You call it a trilogy because you reject the fourth one
I call it trilogy because I reject the first one
We are not the same
Jokes aside, I would call 2&3 a long movie, which makes it a trilogy again. One mistake is to see them as separate
The thing is that "excellent" is something they are not... Look I enjoyed the movies too, they can be quite fun. Some aspects are great, the action and stunt work is in my opinion flawless for the time. Some other things were great too and some others not so much. But in general, really they are not good movies if we try to be a bit neutral, and at the very least they can't follow the complexity of the theme from the first movie while making it look so simple like that one did. It may just be the case of standing too close to the sun, the movies as part of the trilogy just can't compare. So people have a feeling of rejection to them. And probably the one thing people find it tough to come to grips with is the fact that the first movie had great action, that helped the movie go forward, while the others just seem to have random action scenes that are just not part of the story. It's just about how they are added into the story.
But don't let that bother you, enjoy the movies, I still do, they are just not the masterpieces the first one was.
And no, its not about wanting the first one again, in essence, I wish the movies would have managed to expand the story in a refreshing way like the Animatrix did. But they just fall flat instead, simple mindless fun that kinda finish the storyline quite OK for me.
Now the fourth part... That was brilliant, a brilliant crap, but brilliant nonetheless. If my guess is not wrong, it was a great middle finger to the movie execs that wanted to squeeze more money out of the movies.
I really wanted Spaceballs II, the Search for More Money.
Ooooh, thanks for the link. I'm cautiously optimistic.
And I was going to say "Who Framed Roger Rabbit", but apparenly a sequel for that is coming out too.
They've officially ran out of new ideas lol.
More streetcar conspiracy, please! A half-cartoon about good urbanism isn't the movie we deserve, but it's the movie we need.
They lost me at Josh Gad
Writing duo Samit and Hernandez are best known for their work as screenwriters for “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem,” “Pokemon Detective Pikachu,” “Addams Family 2,” and the upcoming Disney+/Lucasfilm special “Lego Star Wars: Rebuild The Galaxy.”
Hooooo boy.
Galaxy Quest.
There was a script for one but Alan Rickman passed away (😭😭😭) and it got shelved. There are always rumors circling about still but nothing concrete.
Aren't they currently developing a show based on GQ?
Off and on for 15 years.
I’d settle for the original R rated cut.
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. It did quite well when it came out, and it felt like there was potential for sequels
I'm surprised nobody has done a modern TV version. All five books have been successfully adapted for radio, the scripts are done, it's already blocked out into well-paced individual episodes. It's just sitting there waiting to be made. You just need a good cast and a show runner who isn't going to monkey with the source material. It's already proven to be popular and long-lived. Seems like a no-brainer.
All five books have been successfully adapted for radio
As far as I’m aware, the first two radio series predate the books. So, in fact, they were successfully adapted into print.
show runner who isn’t going to monkey with the source material
When's the last time THAT happened?
They know they could never top the existing tv series
Which I didn't like at all, it felt too much like an audiobook to me, reading all the guide bits, not like an adaptation. Looks like you can never satisfy all fans at once.
I blame Douglas Adams' extended tax evasion scheme. I think they were already struggling to finish the first one.
Ohh that’s a good one. The other books afterwards were great too.
Would’ve loved a sequel and would honestly not mind them artistically fudging it a bit to pick back up with an older Arthur Dent
The movie wasn't living up to the book though...
And the book wasn't living up to the original radio series
Mostly kidding on that
I agree that I like the book better, initially I disliked the movie, but I've come around on it, some things from the radio series were changed for the book, and so it just kind of feels right they'd further change things for the movie. Playing a little fast and loose with it feels very in the Douglass Adams spirit to me.
But does it live up to the text adventure?
Yep
Get analgesic.
This guy gets it
(the analgesic)
But you didn't hang your towel up before pressing the button.
I still have my original "DON'T PANIC" button which came in the box with the game.
I believe Adams himself considered each different medium to be "it's own story" though just as he added and changed things from the radio play for the book, he also added and changed things in the movie screen play... When he was involved in it. I'm not going to pretend it was all his work but it was it's own thing.
Douglas Adams writing doesn't translate well to film I think, a bit like Pratchett's. It can be done (Good Omens was a great adaptation of Pratchett) but it's probably super hard to do well and keep the original feeling/spirit
The 1981 TV series did a fine job, likely in no small part thanks to having Adams himself around and involved.
I feel like any future HHG adaptation would need to be TV rather than theatrical film. That universe is just too full to condense meaningfully into a 90-minute blockbuster meant to keep the Hollywood lowest common denominator in their seats. You need room for all the multilayered apparently-random stuff interacting with each other in the particularly bizarre ways Adams was so good at pulling off, and it needs to capture the whimsy of the source material without devolving into the unremarkable formulaic stuff the latest attempt to do Dirk Gently on TV turned out to be.
Most don’t but that’s ok :) I still liked it
Not really, but it got me to read the books. And it could've been so much worse.
The Man from UNCLE. And because of Armie Hammer it’ll never happen
That was a hell of a Wikipedia read.
Came to post exactly this
Master and Commander. It was such a great adaptation of a hugely popular series, I expected it to do better at the box office than it did.
It's a phenomenal movie with lots of actually reasonable depictions of sailing in the era.
I would have loved a sequel, too. That movie would probably have done better if it had not have to compete to The Return of the King that year.
It was a great try, visually stunning and true to the overall feel of the book, but it didn't have a very cohesive story. They tried to cover too much ground. It would have been better if they had just stuck to the first book.
Nice try Disney.
Big Hero 6
Big Hero 7
Do I need to have seen Big Hero 1 thru 5 to appreciate this one?
Matrix
Yeah, would have been nice to find out what happened after Neo flew away. At least Rage was playing.
But seriously: it was a perfect ending. Now he's Superman, kicks everyone's ass, frees mankind. The sequels were not only shit but completely unnecessary.
Dude, it has sequels. I especially loved revolutions.
I know it's a joke. But is bad, especially since those movies were great and made money.
"Great" is a massive overstatement. They were passable movies that suffered from bad pacing and exposition dumping. I don't hate reloaded or revolutions, but I'm not going to go out of my way to watch them like I do for the first one.
Matrix sequels underrated crew rise up!
Say what you will about the Wachowskis, they never fail to push boundaries and try something weird and interesting with every film.
I'm very glad that the people who don't appreciate that haven't stopped them from doing what they do. What a bunch of wet blankets.
The biggest problem with those two movies is that the pacing was awful. You had exhausting fight and chase scenes followed by scenes that had way too much mumbo jumbo dialogue. Every scene could have been made shorter without losing any plot points.
Is only mumbo jumbo if you don't understand them. I got them just fine. And the action scenes were groundbreaking, nobody else tried something like that before in Hollywood movies, it was a delight to see
I understood them all just fine... Still poor pacing. The first movie was basically half buildup for the second half's continuous action. Two and three both suffered from the abrupt slow down after the action scenes that I personally feel never really got "better."
I mean, I've got them all so I'm not going to pretend they're as bad as other movies that we pretend didn't get sequels but they just worse than the first one.
That said, I would regularly rewatch a cut that was just all the action scenes.
Warcraft
Like the video game. It was actually a pretty good introduction to the lore, (which I only know surface level from playing the games and not digging real deep. So there may have been mistakes) and it was just about to get good, but, there just wasn't enough interest to sink more money in the franchise.
I just watched it this weekend and it was far better than I expected.
Now Borderlands.... That's a different story.
I saw Warcraft in theaters when it came out. I left the theater thinking that it was 6/10 at best.
Fast forward to 2021. I Saw that it had gotten better reviews since years ago, and I was thirsty for some nostalgia and was willing to give it another try. Turns out, I liked it more this time around. I believe that I had my expectations really high when I went to see it. Seconded watch, I gave it a 7.5/10.
I really liked how neither the Orcs or Humans were the bad guys. They painted both teams as equally sympathetic.
When we were following the Humans I was like "Yeah! Let's crush those Orcs!" But then we start following the Orcs and I'm like "Watch out! Those asshole Humans are coming for you!"
I recently watched this and was surprised how much I enjoyed it, I expected it to be terrible based on the reviews.
I find this comment reassuring as I have said movie on my watchlist.
(My Warcraft knowledge is about almost finishing Warcraft III, for some reason I always leave it close at the end, or at least I think I am close.)
I got hooked on the franchise in Warcraft 2, played everything since.
We're like evil twins! I haven't played any Warcraft SINCE Warcraft 2!
But did you put the disk in a CD player for bitchin' driving tunes?
Only for the secret disco track
What what what what what do you want?
Why do you keep touching me?
I said that on my wedding night.
My bride, "Zug zug".
Loktar.
I think going back to warcraft 1 was ultimately a mistake. If they did a part closer to where the wow story was it would have done better.
I thought the exact same thing after I watched it. Sadly, that same thought made me especially excited for the sequel.... that never came.
I understand why they did it, but there's just too much to absorb. I was a fan, and although I recognized some of the names, I wasn't familiar with any of the characters besides Gul'dan.
The entire first movie should have been a 5-10 minute exposition. "It's been X years since we came through the portal..." And instead we follow Thrall and Grom, and Uther while two factions battle for dominance! (and it's been a while, so I forget what all happens in Warcraft 2)
Now that I've typed it all out, I've decided that if they could only make one Warcraft movie, but I got to pick which era, it would definitely be Arthas and the Lich King. That's a good story.
Kind of a downer ending though for mainstream audiences
Or the Warcraft III story, so good.
I never played wow and thought the movie was pretty good. Especially for a video game adaptation
Kung pow! They even had a silly thing after the credits that i thought was real but it never came to fruition =(
updates have been coming out all the way up to 2022, so who knows?
I'd also love to see this sequel.
It's one of the projects I check every year or so, kung pow still makes me laugh.
As a fan of genuine hong kong kung fu cinema growing up, this remains one of the few films I had to stop watching about 15 minutes in—was clear whoever made the movie had never actually seen a kung fu film. To add insult to injury the dvd decided to hide itself under a pile of magazines causing me and my brother to pay extra on a massive late fee because of it. I hate that movie.
Wow that's the worst reason to hate a movie i have ever seen. "as a fan of star wars, it was clear that the makers of spaceballs have no idea how to make a scifi movie."
It was completely devoid of humor, and was clearly written by someone who had never actually watched the thing they were satirizing. I feel like that’s a pretty good reason to not like it.
There are a million genuine articles of badly dubbed, stupid and hilariously cheap kung fu movies out there, Kung Pow was like if Coke decided to make an off-brand Mr. Pibb.
It's a bit odd to claim the guy who reedited and remixed an entire existing kung fu film never watched a kung fu film. Like his work or not, he pretty evidently saw the thing.
Jumper. It was setting up an interesting world with more depth than the first movie could delve. I loved that one of the characters was so cool that the author of the original novel went out and wrote another book just about the movie's character and it rocked.
In a similar vein, Chronicle. I absolutely love that film
I'll make a note to check Chronicle out.
I loved Chronicle, but I'm not sure I would have loved a sequel.
Holy fucking shit that movie was good
The novel Jumper by Steven Gould, on which the film Jumper was based, spawned a continuing series that went on for a while and kept being pretty good. For the hell of it the author also wrote Jumper: Griffin's Story which wasn't part of his novels' continuity, instead it was a prequel to the movie.
Constantine, I'm surprised it's taken them this long to even talk about a sequel.
One of my favorites, the the series was excellent too. I’m not entirely sure which actor I liked best in the role
I loved the series, the movie not that much
Can't wait for Colbert's reluctant demon.
He had some great animated movies. Unlike the movie with the worst casting decision in the history of comic book movies.
Return of the Jedi. Episode 7 is not a sequel but a remake. Episodes 8 and 9 are bullshit.
I mean, if we're talking release order, then Return of the Jedi did get a sequel! It was called The Phantom Menace and ahh
Ahahaha hahahahahahahaha. I'm sorry, I'm sorry! I almost made it through with a straight face.
Amazed no one else has mentioned The Fifth Element. It was planned at one point I think but got cancelled.
The fifth element is a perfect self contained story. I’m not sure how you could up the stakes for a sequel. You could tell other stories in that world maybe, but I don’t think a sequel featuring the original characters would be good.
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets was something of a spiritual sequel by the same filmmaker, but it turned out to be an unentertaining bag of cinematic butt.
I found it to be rather entertaining, I liked the action, I liked the design and I liked some of the charactets. Unfortunately both the main characters and the plot seemed rather underdeveloped to me, so it kind of did turn out to be a bag of cinematic butt.
The leads were supposed to be flirty and romantic, but they came off as siblings. Any romance felt weird.
Yes, they did come off as siblings! It would be so much better if they were just friends. The sibling chemistry was there. I also found it strange that in the end the leading guy was supposed to finally stop playing it by the book, but he never really did during the whole film. That was a whole missing arch. And the bad guys were sleeping most of the time.
Oh my goodness. I loved The Fifth Element! I strongly believe that it's a great example of movie pacing.
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Crimson Skies and Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow have somewhat-similar settings, if you're jonesing for Sky Captain dieselpunk American alt-history interwar air-carrier content and are not aware of it. Was just talking about Crimson Skies with someone on here the other day.
Funny story. I happen to have a bunch of Crimson Skies toys sitting in a box, all unopened. There was a comic shop near my job and they had a clear-out table that sold unpopular items at a steep discount. I got a bunch of T-shirts and other stuff, and liked the Crimson Skies stuff. For a buck each, why not?
Jonn Dies at the End
I'm not sure that I would want to see it, but I was surprised that True Lies didn't turn into a franchise.
There were plans, with the daughter joining the family business.
FUBAR on Netflix isn't terrible since it plays some of the same keys as True Lies, and it got renewed for a second season...but it's painfully obvious that Arnold is too old for this stuff anymore.
They tried a TV reboot adaptation of True Lies. It was baaad
I once read that they planned on a sequel but then the terrorist attacks on the world trade center happened so they cancelled it.
Something about not wanting to make fun of terrorism anymore.
I'll answer a slightly different question -- what film I would have liked to have had a sequel for that didn't. I don't know enough about the factors that go into deciding to fund sequels of movies.
I'd like to have had a sequel for Tora Tora Tora! doing Midway.
Tora Tora Tora! covers the attack on Pearl Harbor. It is, also in my opinion, one of the best war films out there. A lot of war films fall into a "rah rah rah good guys versus bad guys" thing; Tora Tora Tora! had both Japanese and American teams working on it and was designed for release in both countries, and was, I would say, impressively-objective. It was pretty light on actual action shots, which I think was probably reasonable -- the really critical factors were decisions made in the runup to the event, rather than the specific actions of any one person on-scene. I believe that it did do a good job of highlighting the significant factors leading to the outcome.
Looking at IMDB, a number of people seemed to feel that Tora Tora Tora! was boring. It had a lot of people talking, and not a lot of actual combat shots (and those were not high-budget, not where the money really went).
The 1976 Midway was not good.
The 2019 Midway was better, but the things that it was good at tended to be the kinds of things that Hollywood conventionally does well -- high production values, pretty lighting, lots of action shots, people being tough, etc. I was kind of irritated by the amount of coverage that John Ford got -- I appreciate that he was one of Hollywood's own, and he was in the middle of things, but he was really not very significant in the grand scheme of things. Contrast that with, say, Henry Harrison in Gettysburg, the actor who was working for the Confederate States of America, where the people making the movie enjoyed repeatedly pointing out that Harrison was an actor...but at least there, Harrison really did have a meaningful role in the battle.
It also was awfully light on a few important bits that arguably didn't reflect very well on the US. Tora Tora Tora! talks about material that was covered in analysis on what went wrong, so it doesn't shy away from that. Midway tends to gloss over some bits. It does cover some, like McClusky's error in target selection that almost caused Enterprise's strike to leave Akagi undamaged.
However, a more-serious set of issues weren't. Maybe the most-serious -- in the actual battle, one of the most-critical issues was that a significant part of the three carriers' flight groups headed off into nowhere. Partway through the flight, one of the torpedo bomber squadron commanders, Waldron, disagreed with the flight's commander, Ring, told Ring that he was flying to the wrong place, openly mutinied and ordered his squadron to disregard Ring and fly to where he thought the Japanese carriers were. This was in a strike where working together between different types of aircraft was absolutely critical and the entire operational Pacific American carrier force was at stake. That is court-martial material, and probably the only reason it didn't happen was because (a) Waldron was absolutely right, and had flown directly to the Japanese carriers, attacking without support, whereas Ring flew the rest of the planes off into nowhere and had some ditch on the way back, and (b) Waldron was killed along with all but one of his squadron when he conducted his attack solo. But then there's the question of why Ring was flying off into the middle of nowhere. I think that modern historians -- think John Parshall or the US Naval Institute -- present an extremely unflattering
picture of Mitscher, one of the carrier commanders, who likely disregarded his own actual orders from his carrier force commander, Spruance, and sent his own forces off into the middle of nowhere due to disagreeing with him. Further, it's likely that Mitscher concealed information on the situation -- a situation for which he was likely in large part responsible -- from being sent back up to higher command. While Mitscher did ultimately redeem himself, did well later in the war, this could easily have been a career-ending move, and because of that move, the battle ultimately was much more on a knife edge than it needed to be.
Its focus on the action rather than the leadup to the battles and the decisions that caused various events to happen the way they do is why it can get through four entire battles -- the attack on Pearl Harbor, the subsequent American raid on the Marshalls, the Doolittle Raid, and the Battle of Midway -- in a single movie. There's enough time to cover four battles in one movie if you're heavily-weighting action shots, but you can only do that if you throw out most of the decision-making leading to those battles.
It did spend some time covering the intelligence side of Midway, which was significant, but that was only really one input into the calls that were made, and only for one of the four battles.
It's not that I don't feel that there's a place for that sort of action-oriented movie, but there are also lots of them, but very few war movies like Tora Tora Tora!
That is an epic answer. And you've convinced me I need to watch Tora Tora Tora! again because the last time I watched it I was probably under 10 and had no appreciation for it, particularly on network television cut with commercials.
I had never heard any of this before.
I was always under the impression that Midway was in the bag thanks to the Americans breaking the Japanese codes.
Never heard the name Waldron before.
You are correct; it would be a great movie.
I was always under the impression that Midway was in the bag thanks to the Americans breaking the Japanese codes.
So, this is getting outside the movie itself, but...
That gave the US a major advantage relative to where they would have otherwise been -- they otherwise would have probably had at most just two carriers instead of three, and an unprepared island garrison versus the four Japanese carriers (and large follow-up surface fleet that was coming behind). Japan's intention was to force a lopsided battle with the American carriers. Japan had a picket line of submarines that would have had a shot at the US's carriers if they sortied from Hawaii; because the Americans moved early, the carriers were already past the submarines by the time that they were in place.
But it was by no means in the bag simply because of the intelligence. That intelligence was probably necessary for the US to have done what it did at the Battle of Midway, but not alone sufficient. The Japanese and American carrier air wings, even with the US doing emergency patch-up to get an extra carrier into the fight, were close in size. Midway's garrison absorbed the initial Japanese air attack, but even with the US putting every aircraft it could on the island, the land-based air arm didn't do much to the Japanese fleet (though a bomb or two from a land-based aircraft falling differently could also have significantly affected the outcome; Lady Luck played her role on both sides). The Japanese fleet did detect the American carriers and had been on the verge of launching a strike against them, and were only boxed out by minutes. That boxing out only happened because of an extraordinary series of lucky events for the US -- various groups of American aircraft showing up at the right times to prevent Japan from launching strikes; the USS Nautilus being held down by the Japanese destroyer Arashi; McClusky leading USS Enterprise's strike group -- which did a huge amount of the damage and was going to miss the Japanese fleet -- seeing Arashi and deciding to fly ahead of its path in the hopes that it was heading for the Japanese carriers; and Yorktown's and Enterprise's dive bomber groups actually hitting with their weapons after poor earlier performance from some other -- often much-less-experienced -- air groups. Normally, the weapon one would want to use against a carrier or other large ships were torpeoes; the American torpedo bombers generally weren't able to land hits and at that point in the war, American torpedoes had a number of technical problems. The Japanese pilots in the fleet in the early war were generally much-better trained than the American pilots, and had performed significantly better; had the Japanese managed to get that strike off, the American carriers would have been in trouble.
One reason that the Battle of Midway makes for a cinema-friendly movie is because events that happened in a short period of time did a great deal to drastically determine the battle's outcome. It could very easily have been a lopsided battle in the other direction.
A better statement is that, with what we know today, the US probably more-or-less had the war in the bag, albeit not that battle. It's difficult to see how Japan could have won the war; their war plan, Kantai Kessen, was gambling on one great Japanese naval victory over the US, a resultant collapse in American public support for the war, and for the US to give up when it realistically had a great deal of ability to continue a war and strong long-term advantage. In general, I think that planners in most countries drastically-underestimated the willingness of publics in various countries to continue and sustain a war effort. My own guess -- and I want to be clear here that I am not echoing any expert analysis that I have read -- is that this had a lot to do with war planners in a number of countries focusing on Russia's collapse in World War I (and in Japan's case, Russia's loss in the Russo-Japanese War; their actions looked in many ways similar to attempting a repeat of their attack on Russia there) and believing that it could be extrapolated to other countries and other times. The right lesson, I think, was probably that Imperial Russia had a lot of very serious political problems around the time of those wars, not that it was particularly easy to defeat major powers.
As for the Battle of Midway itself, the best sources in terms of understanding the battle are probably in text form, but if one wants to watch a pretty good -- in my opinion -- documentary-style set of videos, I'd recommend Montemayor's series of three YouTube videos on Midway. They don't have fantastic production values, have the occasional capitalization error, but the history is solid, and they do a good job of talking about most of the actual factors that determined the battle. And they keep maps visible, so one can see what's happening.
Montemayor also doesn't talk about Mitscher, though it's also not as if he actively avoids that; he does cover American organizational problems effectively in his video on the Battle of Savo Island: "Battle of Savo Island 1942: America's Worst Naval Defeat".
First, you are a very good writer. I usually roll my eyes at a wall of text like that but you convey the ideas clearly.
Second, I am again surprised by how close it was.
Finalyy, I will share some resources you might enjoy.
I like all of Allan Furst's WW2 novels, but this is the most nautical. Dutch freighter captain is recruited into the British service. War book, sea tale, spy story all rolled into one.
Connections is an old BBC history series I stumbled upon a while back. The presenter shows how so many things interconnect to form the future.
Cryptonomicon. Neal Stephenson. I suggest this book to anyone who likes to get lost in a novel.
The grandfather is a WW2 codebreaker tasked with keeping the Nazis from finding out that the Allies were reading their mail. His grandson is trying to set up an online bank in 1990's Manila.
It must take great effort to write all that so well and link sources and provide recommendations for greater understanding. Please know it is deeply appreciated. My grandpa was in the Pacific theater and I find it fascinating.
Beetlejuice. It was such a popular movie that spawned a musical, a cartoon, various video games, etc yet there's only been the one movie. There's been talks about a sequel over the years but nothing has materialized yet.
I didn't realize there was a sequel coming out next month. Don't know how I missed that.
The Road to El Dorado was the pilot for an animated series that never got greenlit. Massive missed opportunity, I would love to see "the continuing adventures of three latin rogues and a horse"
"What happens when the party is 2 bards and a rogue."
At the time animated series didn't have the same quality they do today, I suspect it's reputation is so good because there's no subsequent animated series.
Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves
Excellent, fun movie. Huge universe to built on. Shame they're probably not continuing the series
Wait is it confirmed they're not picking that back up? I thought that movie was pretty solid! Really felt ripe for franchising. Could either continue that party, or same actors different campaign, etc.. so much potential!
I don't think it did well in theatres. It was also released around the time of the GPL fiasco, so lots D&D fans were still boycotting it.
I'm still waiting to learn what happened to Ridley, Marina, and Snails.
A sequel to Prometheus that actually focused on getting answers from the engineers. Covenant had an interesting performance from Fassbender but nothing else.
Prometheus should have had it's stand-alone universe. They fucked up by bolting xenomorphs onto it, and all the baggage that came with them.
Just as they say Starbucks coffee is coffee for people who don't like coffee, I've concluded that Prometheus was an Alien film for people who don't like Alien films.
I'm in the opposite camp, lol. I feel like Prometheus and Covenant both were deeply unnecessary. The most hurtful thing you can do for a horror franchise is add too much detail. Even if it is as weird and convoluted as Prometheus and Covenant
The movies ruined the horror part of the franchise long before Prometheus.
True, but still, I feel like they didn't really add anything that was needed
For a long time, I would have said Unbreakable. I’m glad that he ended up continuing the story, eventually.
It’s referred to as the Eastrail 177 Trilogy now
I like them, too
I never knew it was supposed to be a series until they announced Split
Me neither. Actually, I didn’t realize Split was in the same “universe” until the very end, when David was watching the news on TV. That was an awesome surprise!
Kung Pow: Enter the Fist
They even teased it man... Pretty sure every kid has an existential crisis when they searched for that sequel in Google and found out it didn't exist.
What???
An I just finding out that there will be no sequel to that?
I remember that were planning, and planning, and planning, and it was too come out in 20XX, and then 20XX etc (can't remember the years)
What happened? Not enough funding, or was bullshit all along??
I feel so....... Duped..
This might be controversial but, I think we're better off...
How dare you!
Salt (Angelina Jolie)
I thought it was a pretty decent film..
Chronicle 😭
While I love this film, I feel like a sequel would just kinda ruin the ending.
OMG I just mentioned that elsewhere in this thread. So good!
The Golden Compass
There's a whole series of books.
Though there is a TV series now....
The trouble with the movie was that the studio got scared out of continuing by fundamentalist Christian groups who really objected to the central premise of the books; namely that God can be killed and all life will be better off for it.
They then fumbled the shit out of it, editing it so poorly that what they did make was a jumble of shit that no one who wasn’t familiar with the stories would care to see, and no one who loved the books would be happy with. For me it was shit like revealing Lyra’s parentage right at the beginning, rather than it being a huge surprise as in the books.
It was a massive shame though, because the casting was damn near perfect. If they’d got Sam Elliott back to reprise the role of Lee Scorseby for the BBC adaptation, I’d have been as happy as a pig in shit. To my mind he is Lee. Lin Manuel Miranda was fine, but lacked the essential taciturn nature of the character as written. And Sir Ian McKellan as Iorek? Perfect.
Where can you watch the TV series? I really liked that movie.
Max, it's called His Dark Materials.
Definitely worth seeking out the TV show, it's much much better than the movie IMO.
That's kind of a low bar, but yeah, the series is pretty good
That's kind of a low bar
Well, yeah, I agree - but the person I was replying to liked the movie, so I didn't want to be rude! ;-)
How nice of you :D
I’ve never read the series but the His Dark Materials television show is really well produced. Not sure how closely it follows the books but as far as I understand it’s pretty faithfully executed.
The TV series is so good. Forget about the movie.
As far as I can remember the Movie did terrible, especially since it didn't really stick to the source material
Daemons and talking polar bears. I was sold.
I personally am not bothered by sticking to the source material or not. Books and movies are fundamentally different.
I'm usually fine with not everything from the book making it to the movie, but changes to the plot need to be very well reasoned for. There were for example a lot of changes to the structure of LotR when Jackson adapted it, but they didn't change the overall plot or message, mostly just restructured it.
Flash Gordon.
Although there were a lot of problems with Ender's Game, I was a little surprised that they didn't adapt any of the sequels. I mean I wouldn't have watched them, but it seemed like they went pretty all in on that first one to not at least try the second with a significantly reduced budget.
The first and second books are really nothing alike. Only linked by main character and the events of the first. Everything is different about them.
I think the sequels might be to philosophical compared to the first one
Buckaroo Banzai.
There are 10s of us!
They teased a sequel at the end of the movie.
Unfortunately not long after the first movie came out some component company on the back end had financial troubles and the rights to the movie got caught up in an ownership battle or something like that. It’s been a while since I read about why the sequel was never made even though everyone seemed primed to do it so my details may be fuzzy on it but it had something to do with the rights halting the project for a long time, like 15-20 years or something like that.
Jumper
They did the series impulse which is in the same universe but only 2 seasons if I'm not mistaken.
The movie was cool
The novel Jumper by Steven Gould, on which the film Jumper was based, spawned a continuing series that went on for a while and kept being pretty good. For the hell of it the author also wrote Jumper: Griffin's Story which wasn't part of the novel continuity, instead it was a prequel to the movie.
I’m way too late on this one but I’m going with Battle Angel Alita.
We need History of The World Part 2
That actually did come out! Mel Brooks produced it, it's on Hulu.
Is Hitler on ice? I never watched it but probably should. It sucks being the piss boy.
What! I'll add it to the list!
It's split into eight episodes and I went through the same audience arc that a lot of people did. I came in with way too high of expectations, was able to temper them during the second episode, and then once I got a feel for it I finally started enjoying it from the third episode on. If nothing else, it is obvious how excited everyone was to work with Mel Brooks and a lot of behind-the-scenes interviews go into how Mel is still the sharpest guy in the room and kept everyone laughing throughout production.
Also history of the entire world, i guess 2.
Where the hell are we?
My best guess is that we are on chapter MMXXIV.
I'm gonna answer a slightly different question, What film am I surprised didn't get a sequel sooner? The Incredibles. Sure, it was a self-contained story, but it could've gone anywhere after that. The last scene with the undertaker was just teasing another Incredibles adventure. But instead we just kept getting toy stories.
By the time they did announce a sequel, it had been so long that I wasn't confident that it could live up to the original - and I was pretty much right, it wasn't a bad movie but I've never felt the desire to watch it again like I have the first a few dozen times. So yeah, that's one movie where I'm like "why didn't they ever make a sequ- ... oh, that's right they did"
I think an incredibles series would be awesome to give a story more breathing room. The monsters Inc series has been great.
The last toy story should have been a series of shorts.
From the wiki: "it is not a sequal but a mockbuster"
Oh f**k, missed that one. Zombies?
I can't see anyone mentioning Titan A.E. man I love that movie, the mix of hand drawn animation and CGI was great for the time and I really enjoyed the world building.
Oh wow I would have loved that
The David Fincher version of Girl With the Dragon Tattoo.
Fast and the Furious.
The title for the sequel could be some kind of pun on how the film is faster and/or more furious than what would be reasonable under normal circumstances
Amazing!
The cabin in the woods. I'd love to see other groups trigger other monsters or a prequel on how they captured all the monsters.
I feel more upset that we never got the Left 4 Dead map tie in that was planned
Awww I never heard about that and now I'm upset. That would have been sick!
Yea, there is a cameo in the movie though. During the scene where they're showing all the monsters in boxes you can briefly see a boomer and a tank.
Rock N Rolla
I mean, even though they're not explicitly connected, Guy Ritchie has made a number of movies with similar tone/vibe and London Crime setting. I'm choosing to believe they're happening in the same universe
Lock, Stock and a smoking barrel
Snatch
Revolver
The gentlemen (which was also derived as a decent Netflix show)
There's also Layer Cake from Matthew Vaughn which scratches the same itch.
Agree with the sentiment but wanting Kill Bill 3 is not the same as getting "another Tarantino movie".
True, true
I hadn't heard of this movie before. Seems interesting. added
If you like it you should check out Guy Ritchie's previous film, 2005's Revolver. It's a little more "experimental" I'd say, but some of the film's choices are really cool, especially how it depicts how some characters remember and interpret events differently than others.
I remember there being a joke about a sequel where Jack is found frozen, revived, then has to make sense of all the merchandising and romanticism around what to him was a very real and recent tragedy.
The Mist
How would they make a sequel out of The Mist?
::: spoiler spoiler
With how it ended with that one dude being the only one alive from his party. And then there being military coming through.
:::
I feel like I'm the only one who laughed at that ending. It's just so bad.
it's awesome imo.
King even said he liked the movie ending better that what he wrote.
Ninja Assassin. Okay, not a great film but it made a profit in the box office, the fight scenes were pretty sick, and it hinted at a little bit of world building with the mention of other clans.
Serenity (2005) I know it is wrapping up Firefly, but why? Keep it going!
Underwater (2020) I hope they make 10
Deadwood (2019)
Beerfest (2006) Where's Potfest?
Con Air (1997) You're telling me this only happened once?
American Ultra (2015) Release activated Mike on the world. Or maybe the government is at it again with someone else.
The Faculty (1998) Attempt number two
Sky High (2005)
The Princess Bride (1987)
Robin Hood: Men in Tights (1993)
Constantine (2005) Already mentioned by u/wildcardology@lemmy.world. Fingers crossed it happens
Dredd (2012) Already mentioned by u/yukichigai@lemmy.sdf.org.
Old Guard (2020) Supposedly done. Not released.
I was surprised at how many movies have sequels I didn't know about.
No to Princess Bride. It’s perfect…. Leave it alone.
Freddy Got Fingered. Absolute masterpiece.
♫ Daddy would you like some sausage? ♫
I got around to watching it a few years ago, and holy shit is it ever better than everyone says it is. It’s SO FAR ahead of its time—it feels like an early-to-mid 2010’s Adult Swim movie. Ebert can fuck right off, it’s a comedic MASTAPIECE.
I never saw it back in the days where it was sooooo critically panned. It seems to have aged swimmingly.
Wow. I caught it on a channel recently and watched the first 20 minutes and had to turn it off. That style of humor is so outdated imo. Tom Green’s comedy is just being awkward and repeating the same thing(s) over and over.
I’m glad you still enjoyed it though. I know it’s highly regarded as a cult classic. I just couldn’t stand it myself. I’m in my 40s btw, so I grew up during the Tom Green era of popularity.
I’m a bit younger, in my 30s. I also enjoyed the Tom Green show growing up. I think I might be biased because I love his antics and I was tripping acid when I saw it.
Downfall (Der Untergang), 2004
Didn't the main actor die? Also, he died in the movie, so a tough sequel.
Maybe spinoff would work better. Using the worldbuilding and asking what happened next. I was told once that The Lives of Others (Das Leben der Anderen), 2006 is set in the same universe and the same country, but this might be head canon, donno
Bruno Gans, Swiss, he was great in 'Wings of Desire".
Sharknado 6. I know they said that was the end, but have they really explored all of this idea’s potential? If Fast and the Furious can put a car in space, there should be a shark in space for it to jump over.
Did they actually go to space? I haven't watched a Fast and Furious since, like, 5
Yeah best that you pretend the franchise ended there...
Not a film, but the series Taboo. Was crying out for it, but Tom Hardy got big after the first series.
The Golden Compass. I know it's being done as a series instead but expected movies following the first.
I don't think the movie did all that well. The BBC series is superb though, well worth checking out.
Buckaroo Bonzai, they even advertised it at the end of the first one.
Fight Club
There's a fight club 2 comic.
Any moderately successful one that people remember.
Dredd. Karl Urban absolutely nailed that role, and all without ever showing the top half of his face.
Sadly Dredd didn't make enough money to recoup their production costs, while it was in theaters. It's been estimated that Dredd made around $20 million in the Home Market. This means how many DVD and Blu-ray sales they made. I wasn't able to find any info on streaming numbers unfortunately.
I still hold out hope that a sequel is made and released before the end of the decade.
If Dredd is the movie I'm thinking of, I would assume VHS sales outpaced both Bluray and dvd sales combined! Didn't that movie come out in 1995?
That was Judge Dredd. They're talking about the remake, I think.
Aye, the 2012 movie staring Karl Urban, not the 1995 dumpster fire starring Stallone.
It's probably because I was drunk when I watched Judge Dredd in the theater, but I seem to remember liking Stallone in that. I thought that Dredd was just a worse rip-off of The Raid, but then I read somewhere that they basically co-evolved to a similar thing.
Judge Dread was a fine movie for people who are into that sort of movie (and I am) but it was a pretty terrible adaptation of the comics.
As a Stallone movie it's entertaining in a "brain off eat popcorn" way, same sorta feel as Demolition Man (which was fun). It's only once you understand the material that it's supposed to be adapting that you feel like you were cheated.
It also depends on your ability to not leave when Rob Schneider shows up and starts Rob Schneidering all over the damn screen.
That makes sense. I enjoyed the first Tom Cruz Reacher movie. Then I read a handful of the books, and was just very disappointed in the casting.
I mean... Werner Herzog telling a man to eat his own fingers was pretty great. But otherwise yeah.
District 9
I might be in the minority but Chappie was a really good movie. It’s a real bummer Die Antword were so horrible to work with that the director kinda gave up on it.
I never understood why they thought it would be a good idea to have them in it. It's not like they are known well enough to have a huge pull
I actually watched the movie because of them.
Stumbled upon the band on youtube, and I'd never heard anything like it before.
Plus, their music videos are fucking sick!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcXNPI-IPPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXlZfc1TrD0
I used to love them until the stories of them being fucking horrible people came out. They've been accused of rape, human trafficking and slavery.
so, average Cape Town citizens
I saw Chappie for the first time last week and was moderately devastated to find out there isn't going to be sequels. It had so much style, humor and personality!
I remember reading that they were trying to get District 10 done?
Yeah, but before the director made several more movies that were all bad. I don't know how he keeps getting work.
And yet people keep giving Snyder money to make movies for stupid teenage boys.
Yeah, that's another that makes no sense to me. People largely dislike all his recent works. "Let's give him a huge budget for a two part star wars fan fic!"
Snyder has an amazing eye for action. Sucker Punch, 300, and Watchmen were all amazing visual/auditory feasts. Everything else about his movies is just average to below average, though.
Giving him a Star Wars makes perfect sense when you consider what Disney thinks of the Star Wars audience. "Just give them laser sword and space ships and explosions and they'll be happy."
Blomkamp is better in every way. I think he got blacklisted because the money guys didn't like his social commentary.
I personally wouldn't put him above Snyder in the visuals category, but I respect your opinion and I don't think you're way off or anything. I can see having that preference.
Teenage boys deserve some love and movies!
Yeah, I was too harsh.
I mean, stupid teenage boys will spend what money they have to hang out with their friends... So, it's a viable audience.
His stuff at least manages to make money somehow, so that makes some kind of sense from a money worship point of view. I doubt Blomkamp's movies raked in as much cash though.
And yet M. Night still makes movies. You can’t explain that!
Bloody prawns!
The Matrix
Yeah, a real shame, that
Jurassic Park
.... can we just pretend? Please?
Unpopular opinion, I actually really like the third one
............uhhhhhhh, I would ask your mom if she smoked while pregnant with you. There's clearly something wrong with the development of how your brain came out.
Look, I'm not saying any of them come close to the original, but imo it's the second best of the series (including all the dogshit jurassic worlds) because it sticks to what made the first one great; small amount of people trapped on an island with dinos. The Lost World was like half that but then it turns in to some weird almost king kong-esq thing. Also i love me some Goldblum but he's better as a foil imo and Chris Pratt has nowhere near the gravitas as Sam Neil. Like really besides the annoying parents what do you not like about the third one?
U can just say Téa Leoni is hot
Sure she is, but not in that movie :D
What was wrong with the second movie?
It became a parody of Godzilla movies for no real reason. And it came out of nowhere. I call it the movies 4th act.
Jurassic World is a guilty pleasure of mine.
It's good enough to grip you and at the same time so predictable and full of clichés it's also funny.
Plus, Chris Pratt and Bryce Dallas Howard are both hot as hell.
Why pretend? There's never were a sequel. Fanfic, yes, not sequel.
Promised Neverland s1
I think you wanted to post a top level comment.
I did not.
::: spoiler spoiler The matrix, jurrasic park, and promised Neverland all got sequels that most people think are shit. :::
I really don't get the hate for the second two.
There was a bit more to the story and required paying attention. The second two had more action that's wasn't directly related to the story but was still good.
As much as I tried to like 4 it was crap.
What's up with denying the trilogy? The shitty PC era movie I get it. But the sequels were excellent, the symbolism and how smith is defeated it's brilliant. I bet you wanted a copy of the first movie.
You call it a trilogy because you reject the fourth one
I call it trilogy because I reject the first one
We are not the same
Jokes aside, I would call 2&3 a long movie, which makes it a trilogy again. One mistake is to see them as separate
The thing is that "excellent" is something they are not... Look I enjoyed the movies too, they can be quite fun. Some aspects are great, the action and stunt work is in my opinion flawless for the time. Some other things were great too and some others not so much. But in general, really they are not good movies if we try to be a bit neutral, and at the very least they can't follow the complexity of the theme from the first movie while making it look so simple like that one did. It may just be the case of standing too close to the sun, the movies as part of the trilogy just can't compare. So people have a feeling of rejection to them. And probably the one thing people find it tough to come to grips with is the fact that the first movie had great action, that helped the movie go forward, while the others just seem to have random action scenes that are just not part of the story. It's just about how they are added into the story.
But don't let that bother you, enjoy the movies, I still do, they are just not the masterpieces the first one was.
And no, its not about wanting the first one again, in essence, I wish the movies would have managed to expand the story in a refreshing way like the Animatrix did. But they just fall flat instead, simple mindless fun that kinda finish the storyline quite OK for me.
Now the fourth part... That was brilliant, a brilliant crap, but brilliant nonetheless. If my guess is not wrong, it was a great middle finger to the movie execs that wanted to squeeze more money out of the movies.
I really wanted Spaceballs II, the Search for More Money.
Well you're in luck!
Ooooh, thanks for the link. I'm cautiously optimistic.
And I was going to say "Who Framed Roger Rabbit", but apparenly a sequel for that is coming out too.
They've officially ran out of new ideas lol.
More streetcar conspiracy, please! A half-cartoon about good urbanism isn't the movie we deserve, but it's the movie we need.
They lost me at Josh Gad
Hooooo boy.
Galaxy Quest.
There was a script for one but Alan Rickman passed away (😭😭😭) and it got shelved. There are always rumors circling about still but nothing concrete.
Aren't they currently developing a show based on GQ?
Off and on for 15 years.
I’d settle for the original R rated cut.
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. It did quite well when it came out, and it felt like there was potential for sequels
I'm surprised nobody has done a modern TV version. All five books have been successfully adapted for radio, the scripts are done, it's already blocked out into well-paced individual episodes. It's just sitting there waiting to be made. You just need a good cast and a show runner who isn't going to monkey with the source material. It's already proven to be popular and long-lived. Seems like a no-brainer.
As far as I’m aware, the first two radio series predate the books. So, in fact, they were successfully adapted into print.
When's the last time THAT happened?
They know they could never top the existing tv series
Which I didn't like at all, it felt too much like an audiobook to me, reading all the guide bits, not like an adaptation. Looks like you can never satisfy all fans at once.
I blame Douglas Adams' extended tax evasion scheme. I think they were already struggling to finish the first one.
Ohh that’s a good one. The other books afterwards were great too.
Would’ve loved a sequel and would honestly not mind them artistically fudging it a bit to pick back up with an older Arthur Dent
The movie wasn't living up to the book though...
And the book wasn't living up to the original radio series
Mostly kidding on that
I agree that I like the book better, initially I disliked the movie, but I've come around on it, some things from the radio series were changed for the book, and so it just kind of feels right they'd further change things for the movie. Playing a little fast and loose with it feels very in the Douglass Adams spirit to me.
But does it live up to the text adventure?
Yep
Get analgesic.
This guy gets it
(the analgesic)
But you didn't hang your towel up before pressing the button.
I still have my original "DON'T PANIC" button which came in the box with the game.
I believe Adams himself considered each different medium to be "it's own story" though just as he added and changed things from the radio play for the book, he also added and changed things in the movie screen play... When he was involved in it. I'm not going to pretend it was all his work but it was it's own thing.
Douglas Adams writing doesn't translate well to film I think, a bit like Pratchett's. It can be done (Good Omens was a great adaptation of Pratchett) but it's probably super hard to do well and keep the original feeling/spirit
The 1981 TV series did a fine job, likely in no small part thanks to having Adams himself around and involved.
I feel like any future HHG adaptation would need to be TV rather than theatrical film. That universe is just too full to condense meaningfully into a 90-minute blockbuster meant to keep the Hollywood lowest common denominator in their seats. You need room for all the multilayered apparently-random stuff interacting with each other in the particularly bizarre ways Adams was so good at pulling off, and it needs to capture the whimsy of the source material without devolving into the unremarkable formulaic stuff the latest attempt to do Dirk Gently on TV turned out to be.
Most don’t but that’s ok :) I still liked it
Not really, but it got me to read the books. And it could've been so much worse.
The Man from UNCLE. And because of Armie Hammer it’ll never happen
That was a hell of a Wikipedia read.
Came to post exactly this
Master and Commander. It was such a great adaptation of a hugely popular series, I expected it to do better at the box office than it did.
It's a phenomenal movie with lots of actually reasonable depictions of sailing in the era.
I would have loved a sequel, too. That movie would probably have done better if it had not have to compete to The Return of the King that year.
It was a great try, visually stunning and true to the overall feel of the book, but it didn't have a very cohesive story. They tried to cover too much ground. It would have been better if they had just stuck to the first book.
Nice try Disney.
Big Hero 6
Big Hero 7
Do I need to have seen Big Hero 1 thru 5 to appreciate this one?
Matrix
Yeah, would have been nice to find out what happened after Neo flew away. At least Rage was playing.
But seriously: it was a perfect ending. Now he's Superman, kicks everyone's ass, frees mankind. The sequels were not only shit but completely unnecessary.
Dude, it has sequels. I especially loved revolutions.
(https://xkcd.com/566/)
Is this a joke? Matrix has 3 terrible sequels.
Reloaded and revolution?
I know it's a joke. But is bad, especially since those movies were great and made money.
"Great" is a massive overstatement. They were passable movies that suffered from bad pacing and exposition dumping. I don't hate reloaded or revolutions, but I'm not going to go out of my way to watch them like I do for the first one.
Matrix sequels underrated crew rise up!
Say what you will about the Wachowskis, they never fail to push boundaries and try something weird and interesting with every film.
I'm very glad that the people who don't appreciate that haven't stopped them from doing what they do. What a bunch of wet blankets.
The biggest problem with those two movies is that the pacing was awful. You had exhausting fight and chase scenes followed by scenes that had way too much mumbo jumbo dialogue. Every scene could have been made shorter without losing any plot points.
Is only mumbo jumbo if you don't understand them. I got them just fine. And the action scenes were groundbreaking, nobody else tried something like that before in Hollywood movies, it was a delight to see
I understood them all just fine... Still poor pacing. The first movie was basically half buildup for the second half's continuous action. Two and three both suffered from the abrupt slow down after the action scenes that I personally feel never really got "better."
I mean, I've got them all so I'm not going to pretend they're as bad as other movies that we pretend didn't get sequels but they just worse than the first one.
That said, I would regularly rewatch a cut that was just all the action scenes.
Warcraft
Like the video game. It was actually a pretty good introduction to the lore, (which I only know surface level from playing the games and not digging real deep. So there may have been mistakes) and it was just about to get good, but, there just wasn't enough interest to sink more money in the franchise.
I just watched it this weekend and it was far better than I expected.
Now Borderlands.... That's a different story.
I saw Warcraft in theaters when it came out. I left the theater thinking that it was 6/10 at best.
Fast forward to 2021. I Saw that it had gotten better reviews since years ago, and I was thirsty for some nostalgia and was willing to give it another try. Turns out, I liked it more this time around. I believe that I had my expectations really high when I went to see it. Seconded watch, I gave it a 7.5/10.
I really liked how neither the Orcs or Humans were the bad guys. They painted both teams as equally sympathetic.
When we were following the Humans I was like "Yeah! Let's crush those Orcs!" But then we start following the Orcs and I'm like "Watch out! Those asshole Humans are coming for you!"
I recently watched this and was surprised how much I enjoyed it, I expected it to be terrible based on the reviews.
I find this comment reassuring as I have said movie on my watchlist.
(My Warcraft knowledge is about almost finishing Warcraft III, for some reason I always leave it close at the end, or at least I think I am close.)
I got hooked on the franchise in Warcraft 2, played everything since.
We're like evil twins! I haven't played any Warcraft SINCE Warcraft 2!
But did you put the disk in a CD player for bitchin' driving tunes?
Only for the secret disco track
What what what what what do you want?
Why do you keep touching me?
I said that on my wedding night.
My bride, "Zug zug".
Loktar.
I think going back to warcraft 1 was ultimately a mistake. If they did a part closer to where the wow story was it would have done better.
I thought the exact same thing after I watched it. Sadly, that same thought made me especially excited for the sequel.... that never came.
I understand why they did it, but there's just too much to absorb. I was a fan, and although I recognized some of the names, I wasn't familiar with any of the characters besides Gul'dan.
The entire first movie should have been a 5-10 minute exposition. "It's been X years since we came through the portal..." And instead we follow Thrall and Grom, and Uther while two factions battle for dominance! (and it's been a while, so I forget what all happens in Warcraft 2)
Now that I've typed it all out, I've decided that if they could only make one Warcraft movie, but I got to pick which era, it would definitely be Arthas and the Lich King. That's a good story.
Kind of a downer ending though for mainstream audiences
Or the Warcraft III story, so good.
I never played wow and thought the movie was pretty good. Especially for a video game adaptation
Kung pow! They even had a silly thing after the credits that i thought was real but it never came to fruition =(
updates have been coming out all the way up to 2022, so who knows?
I'd also love to see this sequel.
It's one of the projects I check every year or so, kung pow still makes me laugh.
As a fan of genuine hong kong kung fu cinema growing up, this remains one of the few films I had to stop watching about 15 minutes in—was clear whoever made the movie had never actually seen a kung fu film. To add insult to injury the dvd decided to hide itself under a pile of magazines causing me and my brother to pay extra on a massive late fee because of it. I hate that movie.
Wow that's the worst reason to hate a movie i have ever seen. "as a fan of star wars, it was clear that the makers of spaceballs have no idea how to make a scifi movie."
It was completely devoid of humor, and was clearly written by someone who had never actually watched the thing they were satirizing. I feel like that’s a pretty good reason to not like it.
There are a million genuine articles of badly dubbed, stupid and hilariously cheap kung fu movies out there, Kung Pow was like if Coke decided to make an off-brand Mr. Pibb.
It's a bit odd to claim the guy who reedited and remixed an entire existing kung fu film never watched a kung fu film. Like his work or not, he pretty evidently saw the thing.
Jumper. It was setting up an interesting world with more depth than the first movie could delve. I loved that one of the characters was so cool that the author of the original novel went out and wrote another book just about the movie's character and it rocked.
In a similar vein, Chronicle. I absolutely love that film
I'll make a note to check Chronicle out.
I loved Chronicle, but I'm not sure I would have loved a sequel.
Holy fucking shit that movie was good
The novel Jumper by Steven Gould, on which the film Jumper was based, spawned a continuing series that went on for a while and kept being pretty good. For the hell of it the author also wrote Jumper: Griffin's Story which wasn't part of his novels' continuity, instead it was a prequel to the movie.
https://www.goodreads.com/series/49082-jumper
You should check out the porn parody, Humper
Buckaroo Banzai
Big Trouble in Little China
Freaking loved big trouble in little China. Cult classic to the max. I thought the magic was so cool!
The problem was the story itself was so self-contained any sequel they tried would have clearly been nothing but a huge cash grab.
But they supposedly are making a sequel, starring The Rock 🫤
Is this the one where he plays the physically fit, yet somewhat goofy protagonist with corny jokes and facial expressions?
If they cast the rock in a Big Trouble sequel, I’m becoming a terrorist. He will ruin any franchise with his ego.
I was so ready to see Buckaroo Banzai take on the World Crime League.
There is a book, but it wasn't very good. :(
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/671976/buckaroo-banzai-against-the-world-crime-league-et-al-a-compendium-of-evils-by-written-by-em-rauch/
1st book adapts the movie:
https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Adventures-of-Buckaroo-Banzai/Earl-Mac-Rauch/9780743442480
Constantine, I'm surprised it's taken them this long to even talk about a sequel.
One of my favorites, the the series was excellent too. I’m not entirely sure which actor I liked best in the role
I loved the series, the movie not that much
Can't wait for Colbert's reluctant demon.
He had some great animated movies. Unlike the movie with the worst casting decision in the history of comic book movies.
Return of the Jedi. Episode 7 is not a sequel but a remake. Episodes 8 and 9 are bullshit.
I mean, if we're talking release order, then Return of the Jedi did get a sequel! It was called The Phantom Menace and ahh
Ahahaha hahahahahahahaha. I'm sorry, I'm sorry! I almost made it through with a straight face.
Amazed no one else has mentioned The Fifth Element. It was planned at one point I think but got cancelled.
The fifth element is a perfect self contained story. I’m not sure how you could up the stakes for a sequel. You could tell other stories in that world maybe, but I don’t think a sequel featuring the original characters would be good.
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets was something of a spiritual sequel by the same filmmaker, but it turned out to be an unentertaining bag of cinematic butt.
I found it to be rather entertaining, I liked the action, I liked the design and I liked some of the charactets. Unfortunately both the main characters and the plot seemed rather underdeveloped to me, so it kind of did turn out to be a bag of cinematic butt.
The leads were supposed to be flirty and romantic, but they came off as siblings. Any romance felt weird.
Yes, they did come off as siblings! It would be so much better if they were just friends. The sibling chemistry was there. I also found it strange that in the end the leading guy was supposed to finally stop playing it by the book, but he never really did during the whole film. That was a whole missing arch. And the bad guys were sleeping most of the time.
Oh my goodness. I loved The Fifth Element! I strongly believe that it's a great example of movie pacing.
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Crimson Skies and Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow have somewhat-similar settings, if you're jonesing for Sky Captain dieselpunk American alt-history interwar air-carrier content and are not aware of it. Was just talking about Crimson Skies with someone on here the other day.
Funny story. I happen to have a bunch of Crimson Skies toys sitting in a box, all unopened. There was a comic shop near my job and they had a clear-out table that sold unpopular items at a steep discount. I got a bunch of T-shirts and other stuff, and liked the Crimson Skies stuff. For a buck each, why not?
Jonn Dies at the End
I'm not sure that I would want to see it, but I was surprised that True Lies didn't turn into a franchise.
There were plans, with the daughter joining the family business.
FUBAR on Netflix isn't terrible since it plays some of the same keys as True Lies, and it got renewed for a second season...but it's painfully obvious that Arnold is too old for this stuff anymore.
They tried a TV reboot adaptation of True Lies. It was baaad
I once read that they planned on a sequel but then the terrorist attacks on the world trade center happened so they cancelled it.
Something about not wanting to make fun of terrorism anymore.
I'll answer a slightly different question -- what film I would have liked to have had a sequel for that didn't. I don't know enough about the factors that go into deciding to fund sequels of movies.
I'd like to have had a sequel for Tora Tora Tora! doing Midway.
Tora Tora Tora! covers the attack on Pearl Harbor. It is, also in my opinion, one of the best war films out there. A lot of war films fall into a "rah rah rah good guys versus bad guys" thing; Tora Tora Tora! had both Japanese and American teams working on it and was designed for release in both countries, and was, I would say, impressively-objective. It was pretty light on actual action shots, which I think was probably reasonable -- the really critical factors were decisions made in the runup to the event, rather than the specific actions of any one person on-scene. I believe that it did do a good job of highlighting the significant factors leading to the outcome.
Looking at IMDB, a number of people seemed to feel that Tora Tora Tora! was boring. It had a lot of people talking, and not a lot of actual combat shots (and those were not high-budget, not where the money really went).
The 1976 Midway was not good.
The 2019 Midway was better, but the things that it was good at tended to be the kinds of things that Hollywood conventionally does well -- high production values, pretty lighting, lots of action shots, people being tough, etc. I was kind of irritated by the amount of coverage that John Ford got -- I appreciate that he was one of Hollywood's own, and he was in the middle of things, but he was really not very significant in the grand scheme of things. Contrast that with, say, Henry Harrison in Gettysburg, the actor who was working for the Confederate States of America, where the people making the movie enjoyed repeatedly pointing out that Harrison was an actor...but at least there, Harrison really did have a meaningful role in the battle.
It also was awfully light on a few important bits that arguably didn't reflect very well on the US. Tora Tora Tora! talks about material that was covered in analysis on what went wrong, so it doesn't shy away from that. Midway tends to gloss over some bits. It does cover some, like McClusky's error in target selection that almost caused Enterprise's strike to leave Akagi undamaged.
However, a more-serious set of issues weren't. Maybe the most-serious -- in the actual battle, one of the most-critical issues was that a significant part of the three carriers' flight groups headed off into nowhere. Partway through the flight, one of the torpedo bomber squadron commanders, Waldron, disagreed with the flight's commander, Ring, told Ring that he was flying to the wrong place, openly mutinied and ordered his squadron to disregard Ring and fly to where he thought the Japanese carriers were. This was in a strike where working together between different types of aircraft was absolutely critical and the entire operational Pacific American carrier force was at stake. That is court-martial material, and probably the only reason it didn't happen was because (a) Waldron was absolutely right, and had flown directly to the Japanese carriers, attacking without support, whereas Ring flew the rest of the planes off into nowhere and had some ditch on the way back, and (b) Waldron was killed along with all but one of his squadron when he conducted his attack solo. But then there's the question of why Ring was flying off into the middle of nowhere. I think that modern historians -- think John Parshall or the US Naval Institute -- present an extremely unflattering
picture of Mitscher, one of the carrier commanders, who likely disregarded his own actual orders from his carrier force commander, Spruance, and sent his own forces off into the middle of nowhere due to disagreeing with him. Further, it's likely that Mitscher concealed information on the situation -- a situation for which he was likely in large part responsible -- from being sent back up to higher command. While Mitscher did ultimately redeem himself, did well later in the war, this could easily have been a career-ending move, and because of that move, the battle ultimately was much more on a knife edge than it needed to be.
Its focus on the action rather than the leadup to the battles and the decisions that caused various events to happen the way they do is why it can get through four entire battles -- the attack on Pearl Harbor, the subsequent American raid on the Marshalls, the Doolittle Raid, and the Battle of Midway -- in a single movie. There's enough time to cover four battles in one movie if you're heavily-weighting action shots, but you can only do that if you throw out most of the decision-making leading to those battles.
It did spend some time covering the intelligence side of Midway, which was significant, but that was only really one input into the calls that were made, and only for one of the four battles.
It's not that I don't feel that there's a place for that sort of action-oriented movie, but there are also lots of them, but very few war movies like Tora Tora Tora!
That is an epic answer. And you've convinced me I need to watch Tora Tora Tora! again because the last time I watched it I was probably under 10 and had no appreciation for it, particularly on network television cut with commercials.
I had never heard any of this before.
I was always under the impression that Midway was in the bag thanks to the Americans breaking the Japanese codes.
Never heard the name Waldron before.
You are correct; it would be a great movie.
So, this is getting outside the movie itself, but...
That gave the US a major advantage relative to where they would have otherwise been -- they otherwise would have probably had at most just two carriers instead of three, and an unprepared island garrison versus the four Japanese carriers (and large follow-up surface fleet that was coming behind). Japan's intention was to force a lopsided battle with the American carriers. Japan had a picket line of submarines that would have had a shot at the US's carriers if they sortied from Hawaii; because the Americans moved early, the carriers were already past the submarines by the time that they were in place.
But it was by no means in the bag simply because of the intelligence. That intelligence was probably necessary for the US to have done what it did at the Battle of Midway, but not alone sufficient. The Japanese and American carrier air wings, even with the US doing emergency patch-up to get an extra carrier into the fight, were close in size. Midway's garrison absorbed the initial Japanese air attack, but even with the US putting every aircraft it could on the island, the land-based air arm didn't do much to the Japanese fleet (though a bomb or two from a land-based aircraft falling differently could also have significantly affected the outcome; Lady Luck played her role on both sides). The Japanese fleet did detect the American carriers and had been on the verge of launching a strike against them, and were only boxed out by minutes. That boxing out only happened because of an extraordinary series of lucky events for the US -- various groups of American aircraft showing up at the right times to prevent Japan from launching strikes; the USS Nautilus being held down by the Japanese destroyer Arashi; McClusky leading USS Enterprise's strike group -- which did a huge amount of the damage and was going to miss the Japanese fleet -- seeing Arashi and deciding to fly ahead of its path in the hopes that it was heading for the Japanese carriers; and Yorktown's and Enterprise's dive bomber groups actually hitting with their weapons after poor earlier performance from some other -- often much-less-experienced -- air groups. Normally, the weapon one would want to use against a carrier or other large ships were torpeoes; the American torpedo bombers generally weren't able to land hits and at that point in the war, American torpedoes had a number of technical problems. The Japanese pilots in the fleet in the early war were generally much-better trained than the American pilots, and had performed significantly better; had the Japanese managed to get that strike off, the American carriers would have been in trouble.
One reason that the Battle of Midway makes for a cinema-friendly movie is because events that happened in a short period of time did a great deal to drastically determine the battle's outcome. It could very easily have been a lopsided battle in the other direction.
A better statement is that, with what we know today, the US probably more-or-less had the war in the bag, albeit not that battle. It's difficult to see how Japan could have won the war; their war plan, Kantai Kessen, was gambling on one great Japanese naval victory over the US, a resultant collapse in American public support for the war, and for the US to give up when it realistically had a great deal of ability to continue a war and strong long-term advantage. In general, I think that planners in most countries drastically-underestimated the willingness of publics in various countries to continue and sustain a war effort. My own guess -- and I want to be clear here that I am not echoing any expert analysis that I have read -- is that this had a lot to do with war planners in a number of countries focusing on Russia's collapse in World War I (and in Japan's case, Russia's loss in the Russo-Japanese War; their actions looked in many ways similar to attempting a repeat of their attack on Russia there) and believing that it could be extrapolated to other countries and other times. The right lesson, I think, was probably that Imperial Russia had a lot of very serious political problems around the time of those wars, not that it was particularly easy to defeat major powers.
As for the Battle of Midway itself, the best sources in terms of understanding the battle are probably in text form, but if one wants to watch a pretty good -- in my opinion -- documentary-style set of videos, I'd recommend Montemayor's series of three YouTube videos on Midway. They don't have fantastic production values, have the occasional capitalization error, but the history is solid, and they do a good job of talking about most of the actual factors that determined the battle. And they keep maps visible, so one can see what's happening.
The Battle of Midway 1942: Told from the Japanese Perspective (1/3)
The Battle of Midway: Hiryu's Counterstrike (2/3)
The Battle of Midway: The American Perspective and The Strategic Consequences of the Battle (3/3)
Montemayor also doesn't talk about Mitscher, though it's also not as if he actively avoids that; he does cover American organizational problems effectively in his video on the Battle of Savo Island: "Battle of Savo Island 1942: America's Worst Naval Defeat".
First, you are a very good writer. I usually roll my eyes at a wall of text like that but you convey the ideas clearly.
Second, I am again surprised by how close it was.
Finalyy, I will share some resources you might enjoy.
https://bookshop.org/p/books/dark-voyage-alan-furst/11713695?ean=9780812967968
I like all of Allan Furst's WW2 novels, but this is the most nautical. Dutch freighter captain is recruited into the British service. War book, sea tale, spy story all rolled into one.
Connections is an old BBC history series I stumbled upon a while back. The presenter shows how so many things interconnect to form the future.
https://youtu.be/XetplHcM7aQ?list=PL5HjoPOFFC56enV6cW1zqRvXyY6pNm8cq
Cryptonomicon. Neal Stephenson. I suggest this book to anyone who likes to get lost in a novel.
The grandfather is a WW2 codebreaker tasked with keeping the Nazis from finding out that the Allies were reading their mail. His grandson is trying to set up an online bank in 1990's Manila.
https://bookshop.org/p/books/cryptonomicon-neal-stephenson/7899276?ean=9780380788620
Again, thanks for the informative message
It must take great effort to write all that so well and link sources and provide recommendations for greater understanding. Please know it is deeply appreciated. My grandpa was in the Pacific theater and I find it fascinating.
Beetlejuice. It was such a popular movie that spawned a musical, a cartoon, various video games, etc yet there's only been the one movie. There's been talks about a sequel over the years but nothing has materialized yet.
Either this is a joke that whooshed over me, or you’re going to have a fine time next month - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2049403/
I didn't realize there was a sequel coming out next month. Don't know how I missed that.
The Road to El Dorado was the pilot for an animated series that never got greenlit. Massive missed opportunity, I would love to see "the continuing adventures of three latin rogues and a horse"
"What happens when the party is 2 bards and a rogue."
At the time animated series didn't have the same quality they do today, I suspect it's reputation is so good because there's no subsequent animated series.
Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves
Excellent, fun movie. Huge universe to built on. Shame they're probably not continuing the series
Wait is it confirmed they're not picking that back up? I thought that movie was pretty solid! Really felt ripe for franchising. Could either continue that party, or same actors different campaign, etc.. so much potential!
I don't think it did well in theatres. It was also released around the time of the GPL fiasco, so lots D&D fans were still boycotting it.
I'm still waiting to learn what happened to Ridley, Marina, and Snails.
A sequel to Prometheus that actually focused on getting answers from the engineers. Covenant had an interesting performance from Fassbender but nothing else.
Prometheus should have had it's stand-alone universe. They fucked up by bolting xenomorphs onto it, and all the baggage that came with them.
Just as they say Starbucks coffee is coffee for people who don't like coffee, I've concluded that Prometheus was an Alien film for people who don't like Alien films.
I'm in the opposite camp, lol. I feel like Prometheus and Covenant both were deeply unnecessary. The most hurtful thing you can do for a horror franchise is add too much detail. Even if it is as weird and convoluted as Prometheus and Covenant
The movies ruined the horror part of the franchise long before Prometheus.
True, but still, I feel like they didn't really add anything that was needed
For a long time, I would have said Unbreakable. I’m glad that he ended up continuing the story, eventually.
It’s referred to as the Eastrail 177 Trilogy now
I like them, too
I never knew it was supposed to be a series until they announced Split
Me neither. Actually, I didn’t realize Split was in the same “universe” until the very end, when David was watching the news on TV. That was an awesome surprise!
Kung Pow: Enter the Fist
They even teased it man... Pretty sure every kid has an existential crisis when they searched for that sequel in Google and found out it didn't exist.
What???
An I just finding out that there will be no sequel to that? I remember that were planning, and planning, and planning, and it was too come out in 20XX, and then 20XX etc (can't remember the years)
What happened? Not enough funding, or was bullshit all along?? I feel so....... Duped..
This might be controversial but, I think we're better off...
How dare you!
Salt (Angelina Jolie)
I thought it was a pretty decent film..
Chronicle 😭
While I love this film, I feel like a sequel would just kinda ruin the ending.
OMG I just mentioned that elsewhere in this thread. So good!
The Golden Compass
There's a whole series of books.
Though there is a TV series now....
The trouble with the movie was that the studio got scared out of continuing by fundamentalist Christian groups who really objected to the central premise of the books; namely that God can be killed and all life will be better off for it.
They then fumbled the shit out of it, editing it so poorly that what they did make was a jumble of shit that no one who wasn’t familiar with the stories would care to see, and no one who loved the books would be happy with. For me it was shit like revealing Lyra’s parentage right at the beginning, rather than it being a huge surprise as in the books.
It was a massive shame though, because the casting was damn near perfect. If they’d got Sam Elliott back to reprise the role of Lee Scorseby for the BBC adaptation, I’d have been as happy as a pig in shit. To my mind he is Lee. Lin Manuel Miranda was fine, but lacked the essential taciturn nature of the character as written. And Sir Ian McKellan as Iorek? Perfect.
Where can you watch the TV series? I really liked that movie.
Max, it's called His Dark Materials.
Definitely worth seeking out the TV show, it's much much better than the movie IMO.
That's kind of a low bar, but yeah, the series is pretty good
Well, yeah, I agree - but the person I was replying to liked the movie, so I didn't want to be rude! ;-)
How nice of you :D
I’ve never read the series but the His Dark Materials television show is really well produced. Not sure how closely it follows the books but as far as I understand it’s pretty faithfully executed.
The TV series is so good. Forget about the movie.
As far as I can remember the Movie did terrible, especially since it didn't really stick to the source material
Daemons and talking polar bears. I was sold.
I personally am not bothered by sticking to the source material or not. Books and movies are fundamentally different.
I'm usually fine with not everything from the book making it to the movie, but changes to the plot need to be very well reasoned for. There were for example a lot of changes to the structure of LotR when Jackson adapted it, but they didn't change the overall plot or message, mostly just restructured it.
Flash Gordon.
Although there were a lot of problems with Ender's Game, I was a little surprised that they didn't adapt any of the sequels. I mean I wouldn't have watched them, but it seemed like they went pretty all in on that first one to not at least try the second with a significantly reduced budget.
The first and second books are really nothing alike. Only linked by main character and the events of the first. Everything is different about them.
I think the sequels might be to philosophical compared to the first one
Buckaroo Banzai.
There are 10s of us!
They teased a sequel at the end of the movie.
Unfortunately not long after the first movie came out some component company on the back end had financial troubles and the rights to the movie got caught up in an ownership battle or something like that. It’s been a while since I read about why the sequel was never made even though everyone seemed primed to do it so my details may be fuzzy on it but it had something to do with the rights halting the project for a long time, like 15-20 years or something like that.
Jumper
They did the series impulse which is in the same universe but only 2 seasons if I'm not mistaken.
The movie was cool
The novel Jumper by Steven Gould, on which the film Jumper was based, spawned a continuing series that went on for a while and kept being pretty good. For the hell of it the author also wrote Jumper: Griffin's Story which wasn't part of the novel continuity, instead it was a prequel to the movie.
https://www.goodreads.com/series/49082-jumper
I’m way too late on this one but I’m going with Battle Angel Alita.
We need History of The World Part 2
That actually did come out! Mel Brooks produced it, it's on Hulu.
Is Hitler on ice? I never watched it but probably should. It sucks being the piss boy.
What! I'll add it to the list!
It's split into eight episodes and I went through the same audience arc that a lot of people did. I came in with way too high of expectations, was able to temper them during the second episode, and then once I got a feel for it I finally started enjoying it from the third episode on. If nothing else, it is obvious how excited everyone was to work with Mel Brooks and a lot of behind-the-scenes interviews go into how Mel is still the sharpest guy in the room and kept everyone laughing throughout production.
Also history of the entire world, i guess 2.
Where the hell are we?
My best guess is that we are on chapter MMXXIV.
I'm gonna answer a slightly different question, What film am I surprised didn't get a sequel sooner? The Incredibles. Sure, it was a self-contained story, but it could've gone anywhere after that. The last scene with the undertaker was just teasing another Incredibles adventure. But instead we just kept getting toy stories.
By the time they did announce a sequel, it had been so long that I wasn't confident that it could live up to the original - and I was pretty much right, it wasn't a bad movie but I've never felt the desire to watch it again like I have the first a few dozen times. So yeah, that's one movie where I'm like "why didn't they ever make a sequ- ... oh, that's right they did"
I think an incredibles series would be awesome to give a story more breathing room. The monsters Inc series has been great. The last toy story should have been a series of shorts.
Titanic
What do you mean? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic_II_(film)
From the wiki: "it is not a sequal but a mockbuster"
Oh f**k, missed that one. Zombies?
I can't see anyone mentioning Titan A.E. man I love that movie, the mix of hand drawn animation and CGI was great for the time and I really enjoyed the world building.
Oh wow I would have loved that
The David Fincher version of Girl With the Dragon Tattoo.
Fast and the Furious.
The title for the sequel could be some kind of pun on how the film is faster and/or more furious than what would be reasonable under normal circumstances
Amazing!
The cabin in the woods. I'd love to see other groups trigger other monsters or a prequel on how they captured all the monsters.
I feel more upset that we never got the Left 4 Dead map tie in that was planned
Awww I never heard about that and now I'm upset. That would have been sick!
Yea, there is a cameo in the movie though. During the scene where they're showing all the monsters in boxes you can briefly see a boomer and a tank.
Rock N Rolla
I mean, even though they're not explicitly connected, Guy Ritchie has made a number of movies with similar tone/vibe and London Crime setting. I'm choosing to believe they're happening in the same universe
There's also Layer Cake from Matthew Vaughn which scratches the same itch.
Agree with the sentiment but wanting Kill Bill 3 is not the same as getting "another Tarantino movie".
True, true
I hadn't heard of this movie before. Seems interesting. added
If you like it you should check out Guy Ritchie's previous film, 2005's Revolver. It's a little more "experimental" I'd say, but some of the film's choices are really cool, especially how it depicts how some characters remember and interpret events differently than others.
Titanic.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1640571/
::: spoiler Spoiler Yes :::
I remember there being a joke about a sequel where Jack is found frozen, revived, then has to make sense of all the merchandising and romanticism around what to him was a very real and recent tragedy.
The Mist
How would they make a sequel out of The Mist? ::: spoiler spoiler With how it ended with that one dude being the only one alive from his party. And then there being military coming through. :::
I feel like I'm the only one who laughed at that ending. It's just so bad.
it's awesome imo.
King even said he liked the movie ending better that what he wrote.
Ninja Assassin. Okay, not a great film but it made a profit in the box office, the fight scenes were pretty sick, and it hinted at a little bit of world building with the mention of other clans.
If you like ninjas, may I suggest House of ninjas
In no particular order:
I was surprised at how many movies have sequels I didn't know about.
No to Princess Bride. It’s perfect…. Leave it alone.
Freddy Got Fingered. Absolute masterpiece.
♫ Daddy would you like some sausage? ♫
I got around to watching it a few years ago, and holy shit is it ever better than everyone says it is. It’s SO FAR ahead of its time—it feels like an early-to-mid 2010’s Adult Swim movie. Ebert can fuck right off, it’s a comedic MASTAPIECE.
I never saw it back in the days where it was sooooo critically panned. It seems to have aged swimmingly.
Wow. I caught it on a channel recently and watched the first 20 minutes and had to turn it off. That style of humor is so outdated imo. Tom Green’s comedy is just being awkward and repeating the same thing(s) over and over.
I’m glad you still enjoyed it though. I know it’s highly regarded as a cult classic. I just couldn’t stand it myself. I’m in my 40s btw, so I grew up during the Tom Green era of popularity.
I’m a bit younger, in my 30s. I also enjoyed the Tom Green show growing up. I think I might be biased because I love his antics and I was tripping acid when I saw it.
Downfall (Der Untergang), 2004
Didn't the main actor die? Also, he died in the movie, so a tough sequel.
Maybe spinoff would work better. Using the worldbuilding and asking what happened next. I was told once that The Lives of Others (Das Leben der Anderen), 2006 is set in the same universe and the same country, but this might be head canon, donno
Bruno Gans, Swiss, he was great in 'Wings of Desire".
Sharknado 6. I know they said that was the end, but have they really explored all of this idea’s potential? If Fast and the Furious can put a car in space, there should be a shark in space for it to jump over.
Did they actually go to space? I haven't watched a Fast and Furious since, like, 5
Yeah best that you pretend the franchise ended there...
Not a film, but the series Taboo. Was crying out for it, but Tom Hardy got big after the first series.
The Golden Compass. I know it's being done as a series instead but expected movies following the first.
I don't think the movie did all that well. The BBC series is superb though, well worth checking out.
Buckaroo Bonzai, they even advertised it at the end of the first one.
Fight Club
There's a fight club 2 comic.
Any moderately successful one that people remember.