You Can't Look at Porn on Any Reddit Third-Party App Now

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You Can't Look at Porn on Any Reddit Third-Party App Now
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Following changes to its API access, users are forced to log in on the official Reddit app if they want to view NSFW content on mobile.

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What's a Reddit?

I've heard it was a popular discussion place people would go to. Even called the front page of the internet because it was the first and best source for compiled news and information. Its CEO had some quotes that showed how important free flow of information was.

"I don't think we should silence people just because their viewpoints are something we disagree with. There is value in the conversation, and we as a society need to confront these issues. This is an incredibly complex topic, and I'm sure our thinking will continue to evolve."

"We are not the thought police. It's not the role of a private company to decide what people can and cannot say."

He was also forward thinking in designing an open forum, controlled by individuals.

"Our approach to governance is that communities can set appropriate standards around language for themselves. Many communities have rules around speech that are more restrictive than our own, and we fully support those rules."

Wait, that sounds more like the Fediverse.

A Reddit is when you destroy a social media platform because you're angry with its users. It's a common billionaire or wannabe billionaire move.

A miserable little pile of shitposts. But enough talk... Have at you!

One of those dead websites like Digg, MySpace, Livejournal etc.

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Not just porn! Since reddit only has one such tag you can apply to posts, many subreddits were using the NSFW tag for a wider variety of reasons such as spoilers, content which may contain unsettling material (aka "triggers"), and more!

The stoners on Reddit got screwed - many of the weed subs got the banhammer, and the rest got NSFW'd because spez wants Reddit as G-rated as Disney for the IPO.

To be fair, there's been a site wide spoiler tag for a few years now, but yeah before it was introduced people used NSFW for that if a community didn't allow actual NSFW stuff or whatever

It’s not all NSFW. The Synology community I followed went full NSFW in protest and I can still view their subreddit. I cannot view subreddits such as watchitfortheplot. So somehow Reddit is differentiating.

Well I know they forced some subreddits go back to SFW if it was obvious the NSFW was just to protest. Maybe that's the case for the subreddit you're looking at?

NSFW means no ads as well.

I also remember the announcement was sexually explicit content won’t be served through the api, so they must have a way to differentiate then.

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This is the true final blow to third party apps.

I noticed they did something similar to the mobile website. Even with appropriate content blockers there’s absolutely no way you can see sexually explicit content on mobile without their app.

Request the desktop site. Just tried it in Firefox on Android and it no longer says to open in app.

Or use old.reddit.com too.

Or use old.reddit.com too.

Interesting calculus here. Before the r/pocalyspe I'd have said old-reddit was on a 3 month clock to being summarily retired

They also likely lost way more users than they anticipated through the blackouts, and might just let old-reddit be to protect their numbers until the IPO. As long as its not on default Main page, I doubt the advertisers will care. They'll kill it when they can do so quickly and quietly

Reddit doesn’t respect that on iPhones through any browser.

So anti consumer it hurts.

Last I heard, iThings weren't allowed to have other browsers, everything just had to be a different UI on top of Safari.

Wow that's awful. I didn't think I could hate apple anymore than I have been for the last 17 years (I still remember the time my friend tried copying my music collection to is ipod and itunes deleted the entire folder)

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I'd recommend setting one's own browser to automatically redirect to old.reddit.com for the occasion they might need to find that rare technical solution/see sum tiddies.

I use this plugin to fetch the last known stored version of a given page in the Wayback Machine: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/reddit-to-wayback-machine/

Really handy to get a read-only version of useful threads that have been since removed in protest or put in a private subreddit. Plus it doesn't give them any traffic, as it uses an external proxy.

Thanks for sharing! I'll definitely be using that.

That's a false dichotomy. Tiddies ARE a technical solution for feeding babies and attracting mates.

....or so I hear?

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I just did a quick test with the DuckDuckGo browser. Didn't seem to have any issues loading a bunch of NSFW posts. You have to be signed in though, but I think it's been like that for quite a while now.

old-reddit can still do it while logged out. It's only new-reddit that requires logging in.

They even do the same thing with SFW posts, they just say it’s “unreviewed content” or whatever.

I logged onto Apollo using side loading. NSFW still works??

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Shit platform hits rock bottom and continues digging

Digg-ing

Honestly, it seems what Reddit has been doing lately is far worse than anything Digg ever did. 🤷‍♂️ Digg basically just made a bunch of bad design decisions primarily but not entirely to please investors, and the majority of changes were not welcomed by the community.

Reddit is straight up disrespecting their userbase and telling them to suck a fat one and deal with it, holding to their miserable decisions while openly suggesting their userbase is too weak to go anywhere else... And also doing so primarily to please misguided investors.

I feel like Splez is dramatically overestimating his position. Pretty wild to tell your most dedicated users to basically fuck off.

Yup. I was a user (different username) since 2008. I haven't been back since June 12. I used Reddit daily. Even on vacation. Even on vacation in Europe when I'd be connected to Wi-Fi.

See ya.

I was also there since 2008, and was a heavy user. I've checked in a few times in the past month (a lot of my more niche communities haven't moved over yet), but I don't comment or interact anymore. Once Relay dies it's off my phone (it's already lost the homescreen shortcut), and if old.reddit dies I'm done forever.

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Spez is also clearly extremely jealous of the Appolo developer

Years ago I had a successful website based on the API of a growing site which has since become pretty large. The main founder/CEO was pretty prominent in the community at the time and clearly thought that he was an amazing person. His attitude reminds me of how Splez has acted to the Apollo dude... rather than think "hey, thanks for adding something to the community, we appreciate it and could work together" he seemed to think we were interlopers who stole something from them and were using it unfairly. I think for both of them there's a feeling that successful outside developers demonstrate the CEO's inadequacy at meeting the needs of users. Plus on a personal level, Splez is this nerd who looks like he's from an Advice Animal meme and the Apollo guy looks like he could be on a TV show.

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This kills the platform.

Dozens of people still use Tumblr!

Tumblr has walked back the ban with their new ownership

It turns out that banning porn makes advertisers happier, but you sell a lot less ads overall because you have nobody to advertise to.

Only fans did a quick Google before signing off on banning porn.

Can you imagine?

You still can if you're a subreddit mod, so I just did this:

  1. Create your own private sub
  2. You become a mod! Yay!
  3. NSFW now works on 3rd party app

Which app are you using? On boost it tries to load (even non NSFW) but it does not load the posts.

Edit: NVM, Took a while but SFW and NSFW posts indeed are still loading on boost, for various accounts of mine.

The way the block works is that NSFW content works as it used to, but subs tagged by admins as porn will not.

Also be sure to put a bunch of stupid shit in your sub to make the site more lame. Post about how it's lame and people should use Lemmy or Kbin instead.

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I always struggled with looking at the porn because my erection would get in the way. Thank you for reading and have a great day

RIP In Pieces Reddit. This is what will finally kill that site.

So how's the pr0n scene on Lemmy? Asking for a friend.

Lemmynsfw.com

Pornlemmy.com

Using the connect app, how do I change my instance? It only seems to have 3 underneath it allows me to switch to, I can't manually enter anything in the instance settings?

Not sure on connect. But what I personally do, I've made 2 accounts, one on each. And put them on liftoff inside of a secure folder. That way, I don't have to necessarily search for what I want. I can just pop on to them and see what jumps out at me.

Nevernind, I had connec ti stalled. If yiu want separate accounts. Just open the app, click at the top left and add the accounts there.

Thanks. That eventually what I did. My brain seemed to ignore the option icon when clicking my username, and I was just looking below in the profile label and the settings label.

Hilarious that once I read a post about adult material, I seemed to somehow motivate myself until I figured it out. Confused if that's a good quality or not. Lol

You're welcome.

Life truly works in mysterious way. Happy wanking, fella.

I'd say it's a good quality. Just bear in mind, I haven't seen too many videos, and that's my preferred method of viewing material.

Lemmynsfw.com has plenty

Does it?? When I visit, I only see month old moderator posts.

Has something to do with NSFW posts not showing if you're not logged in

You're forced to create a user on lemmynsfw in order to see content, that's why they have so many users. pornlemmy.com is different, they don't put anything behind a firewall.

Yeah that instance confuses me. Every time I see it, it's just mod posts and mostly tame pictures of celebrities. Am I missing something? Is there a secret knock?

You need to be logged in and have nsfw enabled on your account. I had the same issue for a bit.

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Pornlemmy.com

New instance, seems promising

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Remember to leave a review on the official reddit app regarding it's porno abilities - if there's anything google/iOS app stores love more than anything it's an abundance of apps dedicated to viewing porn

That was like, half the reason I used reddit, lol. Otherwise it's just a shithole full of "aHkshUaly" people.

Take your clothes off, or give me something actually interesting and insightful to read, or fuck right off.

Lmao this puritanical turn from all these tech companies over the last 5-6 years I don't get it. All they are going to do is speed self-immolation. What is happening to the internet.

All companies that go to IPO purge their porn content beforehand unless they are dedicated pornography businesses, and even those have a massive shakeup of what content is and is not allowed (pornhub and onlyfans being examples). It's not because they're "puritanical". When a company IPOs it opens itself up to share purchases but what most people miss is that it also opens itself up to shortselling, this is essentially a shares "downvote" where the person shorting a company can make money if the company's value goes down.

Negative press causes a company's value to go down. And the people that own the press are the financial industry, they use and weaponise their media contacts and friends to achieve financial outcomes very successfully.

So when a company IPOs one of the things it does is seek to remove all possible things on a service that can be weaponised as negative press against the company in order for people to profit off of shortselling the drop in value this causes in the market.

The situation is that Reddit and Imgur have a sizeable amount of likely illegal pornographic content on their servers.

Their options are:

  • To ban all the porn. Which it looks like they are trying to do. On paper this is the best option for investors, as it protects the investment. However in the real world this can piss off the userbase and tank the website by losing a sizeable amount of users (see Tumblr).

  • To continue without any changes. This is also guarantees the investment tanking, all it takes is one Anderson Cooper style jailbait investigation into Reddit to destroy the investment. I guarantee that there is a significant amount of underage content uploaded to it, certainly enough to stir up a shitstorm in the media.

  • To implement proper age verification for pornographic content, like pornhub and onlyfans did. But in the investment world it is unpopular to be seen as a person that invests in pornography, the investors don't want it to be public knowledge that they are investing in a porn website in some way and Reddit implementing proper verification processes will make it clear that Reddit is a pornography business. Thus also devaluing the investment.

The VC money dried up

They are losing access to nearly limitless free money

can't look at anything on most 3rd party apps to be fair....

I'm still using Sync. Patched it using Revanced. I also see NSFW on it, because I started a bullshit NSFW sub. Shout out to https://reddit.com/r/droidsgonewild . I even posted some content so it didn't look like I was just trying to get NSFW thru the API.

Reddit couldn't meet their own deadlines. I'm using infinity on android, and its still working, at least to view content when logged out.

The apps that don't work either chose to close, or had their their api keys revoked.

We all know what happened to Tumblr right?

Judge me as the deranged pervert I am but there was a blog hurtboys that collated pictures of hot guys with bruises I miss to this day :'(

Spez is looking after /r/anal harder than anyone else is.

Unfortunately, his crappy app wouldn't let him fap in peace.

Porn is the reason, the internet is so popular. It's basically a driving force!

I can't remember the exact quote but someone once said "if all porn was removed from the internet tomorrow, by the next day there would be one website left called bringbacktheporn.com

It killed tumblr, now it's after reddit.

Wait you can even view reddit on a 3rd party app at all? Which app playoffs the $10m to still work with reddit?

Yeah, theres a few that are gonna switch to a subscription model to pay off the ridiculous price reddit is asking. Fucking shills, man.

I can't hate. Those devs had a livelihood and real world bills to pay. I can't blame them for trying to make a bad thing work.

I will hate on the people who pay it though, since paying to use reddit after how Spez conducted himself and the disdain shown towards the user base seems absolutely ridiculous. That's some next level addiction of being mad enough to not use the official reddit app, but too addicted to not stop contributing content to the site.

I wouldn't necessarily say shills. I can't say I know the ins and outs of app development but I'm sure it could come about that a particular dev doesn't have the know how or capital to start a new project.

What I do know is that I've worked for companies who's morals I don't approve of to make ends meet.

You can use them if you aren't logged into your account. I still try BaconReader every once in awhile, just to see my old friend. Even the NSFW links worked just now.

NSFW stopped working on RiF

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It is ultimately a way to further cripple 3rd part apps. Thus, making the official Reddit app look better by comparison. It’s not certain if Reddit will get rid of porn, because while porn sub-reddits don’t generate ad revenue, a not insignificant portion of Reddit’s user-base visit porn sub-reddits, making Reddit a good one-stop-shop for a user’s media related need. So while porn doesn’t generate ad revenue, it brings users, users who also visit other non-porn sub-reddits that do.

Which is kind of funny because one of the reasons Reddit got so big was because of the pornography

yes you can. you just have to be a moderator of ANY subreddit. so if you create your own subreddit or moderate already one, nsfw is still enabled.

This works even if you create a private subreddit, and it just takes like 30 seconds. I'm now proudly moderating r/fuckuspez1.

I must be a mod of a sub without me realising then. I’m using Apollo via side loading and NSFW still works.

Unless it’s banned just on the ones like narwhal and dystopia?

Is there a way to check which subs you moderate?

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Don't care about this.

There was this great community on r/medicalgore where people shared pics of symptoms of their health problems or photos made during their operations. This allowed everyone to fear less about own health problems. The whole sub was always NSFW.

There are still 3rd party apps?

They claim to be apps for the blind. Most of the 3rd party apps are gone though.

Porn works on Stealth available on f-droid if you switch the source to web scrapping. Not that I advocate using Reddit right now ever again.

Oh, that's interesting. I was hoping a scraper would emerge. Stealth's scraper (currently) doesn't seem to actually display content that is marked nsfw. Maybe they haven't yet figured out how to detect/accept the confirm 18+ barrier on old.reddit.com.

I had no problems going to a NSFW sub. If you go to Settings > Reddit Source and try either Reddit or Reddit (Web Scrapper), maybe one or the other will work?

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How’s the porn on lemmy/lemmy.world?

One of the larger instances is lemmynsfw.com, there’s a fair amount of porn there.

Not quite the levels there are on Reddit, though. And very little OC from what I’ve seen.

Yeah it kind of just...not very good at the moment. Kinda like early 2000's internet porn. Still images of celebrities and such.

Even the mightiest of rivers begins with but a trickle.

Well it was very different a couple days ago. Things got shook up apparently, I don’t know the full story but a bunch of communities got wiped for some reason.

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Is lemmy.world entirely sfw?

No, it has NSFW communities and also federates with other NSFW instances like lemmynsfw.com and pornlemmy.com

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Nowhere near to the same level of niche.

Fediverse is strangely prudish. Not much porn, and when it shows up, instances defederate from it.

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For science I just pulled up a few long-established pornography-specific subreddits (photo, video, and prose-based) in the current version of RedReader, the app which has been spared the axe by Reddit for now. I can confirm that the NSFW subreddits and individual posts still seems to be working and viewable in that app.

EDIT: Disregard, per reply comments this won't work after an update. :-P

There's an update that makes you login again. It installed for me yesterday. After the update get an annoying locked post from u/redditmaturecontent telling you to go to Reddit access NSFW content now.

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That's like banning incest from pornhub.

Wait, but I'm pretty sure they did. Like pretend incest. It's why everything has "Step" in it.

https://old.reddit.com/ still seems to work, and that one doesn't force you to use the app or login.

The grim reaper is coming for old.reddit.com any day now.

A few weeks ago when I still used Reddit via old.Reddit I was constantly getting switched to the new Reddit. It was infuriating.

Is this just speculation or is there evidence for it?

There was a Reddit post a while back where they confirmed the OP was part of an A/B test to disable logging in to old.reddit.com on mobile. Not a great sign.

https://www.reddit.com/r/help/comments/135tly1/helpdid_reddit_just_destroy_mobile_browser_access/

That makes sense though considering that they wanted to kill the 3rd party apps too. I'd imagine that for desktop users it shouldn't matter much wether you're using the redesign or old.reddit - they'll be able to collect the same data and show the same ads.

In January Reddit told third party app developers that there wouldn't be any API changes this year. Maybe in the future, but they definitely wouldn't charge for it this year.

Similarly, Spez said that old Reddit isn't going away.

To me, that's enough to consider it a realistic possibility.

Speculation, but it's an inevitability. It costs money to support old.reddit, which means Reddit will certainly kill it on the day that they'll think the backlash will be small enough.

My imagination is that old.reddit.com was cheaper to serve than whatever it is they are doing now. Maybe they make less ad revenue?

To keep old reddit alive they need to also spend developer time supporting some new features and not breaking legacy code. It's more than just server costs.

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it's such a stupid thing. like reddit is not earning anything anyway if I am going there only for porn. like advertisers are not going to put ads in NSFW subs anyway. what's the point of this change

The point of this is to:

  • Reduce the number of API requests from whatever 3rd party apps are left; this reduces server load and costs.
  • Coerce users into trying the 1st party app and tolerating it so they can watch NSFW content. This may cause some users to abandon the 3rd party app and just settle for the 1st party app.

I doubt it has much to do with advertising.

Number 1 isn't correct. The API requests are still there whether it's the official app or a third party app. I can't say if it's true but the Apollo developer, Christian, said the the official app uses more API calls then his app did.

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Reddit still has working third party apps?

Yeah there is also still narwhal but they are moving to subscription only soon

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PSA: Hardened browsers (desktop or mobile) are still an option. I know it isn't <YourFavoriteAppHere> but it would be difficult to convince me that the official app is better than even that.

TLDR: Hhhhhe he said "hardended." uh heh heh...

Modding a NSFW subreddit also unblocks all of it. Anyone can just make a private sub and mark it 18+ and still have all their porn, tested it on Relay and it worked fine. For science, of course.

It doesn't even have to be NSFW. Modding any subreddit work.

Edit: Welp, nevermind. It seems Boost is down now.

And you just use desktop mode

Not just nsfw content, it's bullshit when any site tries to force you to use an app because of a bit of text in your browser profile

Facebook did it for years and any site that does it I avoid

I got my RiF golden platinum working again by using revanced manager and a guide to patch in my own api key. I can still view NSFW content on it too. Not sure if it will stop eventually. But works right now. I only wanted to keep it for the NSFW stuff as lemmy is only just starting in that department. Been refusing to use it for general browsing though. Trying to stick with lemmy.

That's a lot of effort for the sweet sweet nsfw content!

Not too difficult tbh. Tables about 10 minutes if you are following the guide step bu step.

I did it again for my wife so she could view the F1 sub again and was even fast now i know what I'm doing.

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It is possible on Stealth which is an accountless option with options to use a teddit instance. Little reason to even have an account anymore on reddit, and for those who say subs. Stealth lets you have a feed too. And those that say saving comments or posts Stealth lets you do that too. All locally and exportable.

If you continue using reddit on the phone why let reddit keep harvesting account specific data while just lurking? Go use stealth instead over doing stuff like patching past third party apps and logging in and letting them track your activity then being drawn to add value to the platform through engagement by being tempted to upvotes, downvote, and post.

But wait, why isn't that affected by the api changes

Doesn't use reddit api. Uses either a scraper or teddit instance. There is no option to login. It's a pure lurk mode reddit app.

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Shit I can’t even use a third party app they all went dark, hence why I’m here

they all went dark

A couple of them (such as Infinity) were granted an extension and still work.

Boost only just stopped working for me about an hour ago... That's it for Reddit for me now

Infinity has also stopped working.

Infinity still works for me, although I didn't let it update so that may be why.

Was this one of the ones that said they'd move to a subscription service?

I think so, I don't get prompted to subscribe when I try to open it though, it just immediately closes itself.

The new restrictions have killed off those who were trying to adapt so quickly that the admins can't even hold them up lmao

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Interestingly r/PICS still works despite being tagged NSFW (or so I thought?)

Yes, some nsfw posts go through. I assume reddit is using some kind of nudity detector. Or is there a 18+ flag you can apply independently of nsfw?

I think reddit has an internal distinction between NSFW and "sexually explicit", and it's at least partially set by the whims of reddit admins instead of sub mods.

Obvious? Why are we talking about this still? Access was terminated pay walled almost a week ago.

Sexually explicit content was still available through the paywalled API until yesterday.

I am surprised any 3rd party clients remained connected for that to matter.

It takes a while to get major changes like this to make it's way to the live branch. If this didn't hit at the same time as API costs, then that likely means there was a bug preventing the restriction on nsfw content

Hmm seems I can still access from ravanced Sync

Same with my patched RiF

Even unpatched RIF let's you see it still if not signed in

Unpatched rif stopped showing porn for me today or yesterday. It just shows a post that says Go to reddit to view mature content. Non nudity NSFW images seem to show just fine.

Well fuck I jinxed it for me lol. The app doesn't show anything as NSFW now. Well that blows for those that were still holding onto the app by not signing in.

reddit bypasses this block automatic if you are moderator. even if it's just your own sub you just created. being a mod disables this block on all subs

I can access NSFW content with Revanced Sync as well, and I'm not a mod.

Yeah... It seems like they only blocked the API keys belonging to the well known app developers from accessing NSFW as it stands at the moment.

also, supposedly, if you're a moderator you can access nsfw content

isnt this exactly what they did to alienblue years ago?

🎶 crackin' down on fun, over at Reddit🎶

Joey for Android still works.

Oh sweet, it still works? I uninstalled it on the 1st because I found muscle memory had me opening it and I didn't want the dev racking up fees on my behalf. Hope he figured it out, I know he really poured time keeping that app going.

I still have Infinity installed and I can still porn. Is it possible existing API keys have the permission to fetch NSFW posts. Though it won't be long lived though.

Reddit moderators can see all nsfw content. So your account is likely a moderator or creator of a subreddit.

If you're a mod on any sub you can still see nsfw content on any other sub?

If you own a NSFW sub or are a moderator of one, you still have the possibility to see NSFW content over third-party apps / API

So the workaround would be to make an NSFW sub, then make it private after a couple days?

Only until they implement it properly

Seeing as they invested nigh zero resources on the API for years, maybe they never will?

You just need to be a moderator of any subreddit. The subreddit itself doesn't need to be NSFW. The idea is that moderators could have a need to evaluate NSFW content on user profiles to make moderation decisions.

Make yourself a mod and patch with revanced and you can still see nsfw content. For now.

Eh, honestly I don't care about the porn, but with a lot of subreddits flying the NSFW flag just to piss off advertisers, that makes life a lot more shitty. shrugs Oh well, just one more reason to make myself scarce there.

Admins sent out letters saying to change back to safe for work or the mods will lose mod power and be banned.

Some are falling in line. Others are not.

Not sure how many backup mods they can have for $0.

Pretty sure once subreddits that lose their mods are forced to be "sfw" people are gonna spam nsfw content because their moderation will be weak.

Steve Huffman declared war on the internet. Sony tried that once. Didn't go so well.

still works in Narwhal...

reddit made it so if you're moderator, you can still watch nsfw on EVERY sub. so if you made your own sub or moderate one.. its bypassed basically.

oh. I guess that explains it. I am a mod.

So... everyone can just create a subreddit to "unlock" NSFW? that's weird & interesting.

yupp. a shitton of people already do exactly that. they create subs with their own usernames.

Is r/ trying to do the scientology/Catholic thing where they want to see what you jerk off to in order to use it as blackmail material?

They need to get the coomers into their app with "incognito mode"

I just tested with Relay. I can view NSFW subs. I should note my account seems to be flagged as NSFW for posting to interestingasfuck after it went NSFW.

Hopefully this brings some more communities to Lemmy. Some of my niche weed related subreddits like divinetribe had to be nsfw and I’d love them to move over here.

It still works using my own API key

are there apps that are letting users create their own API keys and plug them in?

There are community tweaks, especially for Apollo, that let you insert your API key.

Revanced Manager allows you to patch a few third party apps with your own API key if you're on android

Yup. I used it to patch sync with its own api key and remove all ads. It's been working flawlessly, including nsfw content after creating my own sub to mod.

I'm not fully switching to lemmy until sync comes over, then Reddit can finally fuck off entirely.

Official sauce: https://github.com/revanced/revanced-manager

Kind of ironic that the content they can't monetize through ads is the content they're blocking from third parties

For a moment I thought it said Digg…. Or tumbler. Probably Digg.

Only reason I still use reddit was for the large comps of stuff I liked. Guess infinity is gone for me forever now.

really amazing it's still working with libreddit (or so I've heard)