Man Displays Father’s Severed Head in Horrific Video Railing Against Biden, Immigration, ‘Far-Left Woke Mobs’
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Justin Mohn, a 32-year-old Pennsylvania man, is in police custody after allegedly murdering and decapitating his father, claiming the latter was a "federal employee" and a "traitor." Before his arrest, Mohn posted a 14-minute video to YouTube in which he displayed his father's severed head, proclaiming: "This is the head of Mike Mohn, a federal
But Antifa is the real danger, right?
my most favorite game when i find a conservative is to ask them point blank:
and they squiiiiiiirm
I like asking to play a game of who can list more politically-motivated homicides for each ideology and conservatives strangely never want to play.
I would answer anti-fascist, but if someone asked me "Are you communist or anti-communist? Pick one" I would answer "neither"
You could pick either. There's no problem with having communist ideologies or being for capitalism.
There is a problem with fascism, it's not comparable to communism. A closer example would be asking someone if they are a racist or not.
We should be taking a hard line at certain ideologies and anyone that hesitate is suspect imo.
Racist or anti-racist, really. Many people can answer "I'm not racist, but...(insert racist statement)"
I'm not racist, but sourdough is the best bread for a grilled cheese.
Ah, so you just have ill will toward the French!
I'm not racist, but have you tried substituting mayonnaise instead of butter on your grilled cheese sandwiches? It levels then up nicely.
I'm not racist, but I prefer Formula1 over NASCAR.
Dammit if I’d just looked one centimeter down I’d have avoided making the same comment
Great minds think alike.
Alternatively: We are Borg
The point is that "neither" indicates someone who does not agree with an ideology but also does not see it as a threat.
You are of course free to treat that person accordingly.
Compulsory alliance is sort of a core feature of fascism so you really must be either fascist or anti-fascist.
If fascist government is in power, it will creat a system in which non-partisan participation furthers and advances the fascist state, so one cannot “opt out”. Since a fascist system won’t entertain neutral, the question “Are you fascist or anti-fascist? You can only pick one.” Is not inherently disingenuous.
Communism does not force people into supporting it, there “neither” is an acceptable answer to “Are you communist or anti-communist” in a way that cannot be applied to fascism.
Well, Communism doesn’t force participation as long as you don’t ask the tankiis, but fuck the tankies.
A great point well made.
If you live in a Communist state you won't exactly have any way to "opt out" of it any more than you can just "opt out" of paying taxes.
That's true for a culturally conservative Russian state that claims to be "communist" the way North Korea claims to be "democratic".
The USSR sucked ass because it was made of the same kind of Russians that we're still fighting against today. The label they wear as a disguise, communist, capitalist, kleptocracy, or whatever "the commies" are calling themselves these days is irrelevant.
Like I said, Fuck the tankies.
Leftist political theory can get very complex, and when people say communism they can mean a lot of things.
Technically, Communism as per Karl Marx in the Communist Manifesto, Communism isn’t a government. Communism is a state of anarchy in which people naturally share resources and the means of production communally and provide ownership does not exist as a cultural concept. So going by the original definitions “Communist Government” is an oxymoron. Explaining what the hell happened in Russia is a whole conversation.
When people talk about communism or communist elements in a government, they are probably talking about some form of socialism.
The same is true of the UK monarchy, yet plenty of Brits are neither for nor against it.
I’m not familiar with the British Monarchy so I can’t really comment on how appropriate your framing is.
What I can point out is that your statement is logically inconsistent on its face.
One can’t be neutral towards a fascist state because the fascist state won’t allow one neutral. In such a condition, anyone who claims to be neither for fascism or actively anti-fascism is pro-fascism because the condition of fascist power will direct all the labour and efforts of participants to the support of the fascist state. In such a condition, pro-fascist is the default condition, and anti-fascism can only be achieved through conscious effort and educated and effective praxis. There is no neutrality. One is not neutral in the face of fascism simply because one declares to be so.
So, if the same conditions essential to fascism are true of the British Monarchy, then the nature of the political situation is stopping Brits from being neither for or against Monarchy. If your assumption that fascism is like the British Monarchy is true, then one could only be pro-monarchy, or achieve anti-monarchy through conscious and intentional effort.
You are not making any distinction between those who would want a fascist state to endure and those who would be indifferent to replacing it with something else. But I think that distinction gets to the heart of the question.
You are also assuming that fascists and anti-fascists are only concerned about their own condition. Suppose you asked an American their opinion of Mussolini and they responded "He was terrible". That's clearly anti-fascist. But what if they responded "Never heard of him"? That's neither pro or anti fascist, yet the neutral response won't advance a fascist regime.
Um… Yes I’ve made that quite clear because both have the same effect on a fascist state. If you’re just going about your business, working your job, not being political, being a centrist, then you are furthering the fascist state, just as you were a foaming at the mouth supporter, because fascist states co-opt the labour and effort of their citizens towards the growth of the state so there is no neutral. In such a situation, you are helping the fascist state to grow unless you are very intentionally fighting it.
You have no idea what I’m talking about. I have no idea where you got the idea “ I’m assuming that fascists and anti-fascists are only concerned with their own condition.” What comment are you reading?
Your supposition about asking an American what he thinks of Mussolini seems entirely tangential to me. I was talking about one’s actions within a context of a fascist state, not regarding foreigners looking in, so what are you commenting on?
Also, having an opinion or talking crap isn’t an into-fascist in any sense of the word. Fascist states need to be combated with direct action, such as economically divesting in financial systems that benefit and fund a fascist state. It’s not germain to my previous comment, as I was talking about people living in a fascist system, but even as a foreigner to a fascist system, allowing a fascist system to function unchecked is effectively the same as supporting it, because fascist government aligned themselves with capital and will use economic output and trade to fund themselves.
So, once again, it doesn’t matter what you say or don’t say. It doesn’t matter what you think or don’t think. You have to take intentional and carefully considered actions to combat fascist states. In this way, thoughts, opinions and statements cannot be anti-fascist. Only actions can be anti-fascist.
The opposite would be authoritarian or anti-authoritarian, it's possible to be conservative without being a fascist just like it's possible to be a socialist/communist without being authoritarian.
I say “I’m personally a communist but understand that it isn’t right for most people.” I would have been awesome at communism. I’m a minimalist in a lot of ways and was good at science and math in school. I’d have probably been working at Roscosmos and then happily going home to my little apartment for my daily ration of vodka and potato bread.
Or maybe I’d have been an Olympian. I was small but athletic growing up so had no chance of playing after high school, really, but they were given athletes zoo animal growth hormones and the good steroids back then. I might have come out of the Yaroslavl Oblast Youth Olympic Reserve School the size of Arvydas Sabonis.
I saw a post recently - pretty sure it was in nottheonion - of a screencap of a Fox News segment, where they were interviewing someone that the caption described as an “anti-anti-fascist”.
Though to be fair, Fox News viewers aren’t likely to put two and two together. Or, for that matter, realize that an anti-anti-fascist is just a fascist.
I got it right here, old bean.
How do you convince them, that "neither" is not an option? What if they say they care about neither?
To the fascist movement? Yes.
Republicans are literally CUTTING OFF PEOPLE'S HEADS because of Ideological Disagreements but they are NOT Terrorists! ISIS are Terrorists because THEY cut off people's heads because of Ideological Disagreements!
Not even just people…his own dad. Who seems to have worked hard to give this douchebag what he has in life. And all it took was the scum fanning the flames of his hatred for ad money and airtime.
Don't forget that "bOtH sIdEs ArE tHe SaMe!"
Another "lone wolf" that has nothing at all to do with the bog standard violent demagoguery of every single right wing talking head grifter I'm sure
What are you saying? This has nothing to do with the current republican party or their talking points!
I'm sure it's a coincidence...
Oh...
Decapitating a family member because there are men in your imagination wearing women's clothes.
Yikes on bikes. I'm guessing this is yet another person that probably should've been in a mental institution instead of alone, ignored, and getting suckered into the alt right pipeline. Surely the level of violence he exhibited is pathological.
Sadly, there's a chance that he wasn't alone and ignored but was getting as much help and support from his family as they could give on their own. The thought of which makes it even more heart-breaking.
Could be. Oof. :(
I know this a very serious discussion, but I just wanted to say the phrase "yikes on bikes" is a good one.
Is this stuff even far-right anymore? Feels like it's fully adopted by pretty much all self proclaimed Republicans at this point.
Why is it always republicans?
Because conservatives have hyperactive fear and disgust centers compared to liberals. They really do feel these emotions in a way that non-conservatives do not. I have concluded that it is a mental disorder to be conservative--it's always projected insecurity.
If hexbear was here, they'd tell you liberals are just as bad lol. I agree that to an extent, but in reality I do seem them to be much better. Crazies just so happen to line up with conservative ideals, which essentially just boils down to just bigotry at the end of the day.
The day my instance updated to support instance blocking in the user config my Lemmy experience improved significantly
Lemmy.world doesn't support blocking of instances and I can't read new without being spammed by lemmynsfw.
Have you had a poke through the user settings? This was like 2 major versions ago so that's extremely weird if you still can't instance block (I have to go to the blocks tab in settings, and below blocked users is blocked instances)
It also seems like a lot of it is surprisingly few people so just blocking a few key posters from Hexbear greatly reduced the hexbear nonsense in my feed and comments sections.
I'll have a look again, I know that this is in constant development. I migrated from another instance that had that enabled, hoping we get updated here soon enough.
You're generally correct as studies corroborated the feeling of disgust to be stronger on those on the right. But I wouldn't necessarily put that to every single conservatives. I met many conservatives who are still sane. The term RINO is a thing after all, and the only conservative party I agree with is the German CdU.
Yeah... I dunno if the "sane" Conservatives are actual Conservatives. Like, hear me out, I know people who totally understand me as a trans person are perfectly supportive and totally grock leftist talking points and even support fairly socialist economic theory ... But they still carry their identities as "Conservatives" because it's a brilliant bit of branding. For all purposes of actual ideology they are actually progressive, but that word "conservative" strokes the ego in a very particular way.
People think "conservative" as basically just meaning "Not prone to extremes" or "careful and measured" or maybe even "liking change to be slow and incremental" or "fiscally moderate" ... None of this actually describes modern Conservative party ideology but they definitely borrow off the synonyms for votes. Because everyone is primed to think of their veiw as carefully reasoned and non-volitile these "conservative at heart" types really don't realize that they are being tricked they just like the pretty label and are willing to let themselves be hoodwinked.
That's a damn good point. Also throw in 2A rights and I think you have the right mix. Someone who is genuinely "fiscally conservative" as in desiring a close the balanced budget, believes that 2A is just as important and deserving of defending as 1A and 4A (the main ones everyone knows), and who believes in plenty of legal immigration but thinks national borders are required to have a nation is basically in no man's land.
The Republican party pays lip service to those and other "Conservative" ideals, but by actions has abandoned them and are the furthest down the oligarch rabbit hole. The Democrats by action actually tend to do more of these traditionally Conservative things in modern times, but pay lip service to the opposite (gun control, open borders, etc) because many of the the actual far leftists remained more attached to the party instead of splintering off like the Sov Cits and various flavors of libertarians did from the conservative side.
Since we have a first past the post voting system and thus only 2 viable parties, those "conservative at heart" folks know they are getting grifted by the Republicans, but feel slightly more aligned with Republicans than with Democrats because they feel there is no actual place for them.
The "Liberal at heart" have a similar problem because the Old Guard corporatist Democrats are also in the Oligarch rabbit hole, just not as deep in many cases. That's why we get lip service about legalizing marijuana, decriminalization, debt relief, etc, but see very little actual or sustainable progress.
Very interested to see what happens whenever the government drops below an average age of 65. Maybe under millennial and Zoomer majorities we can get graduated voting methods and multiple viable parties.
It's the empathy differentiator. People with empathy self select towards one end. People without select towards the other.
This is an almost perfect description of what's going on. I was unlucky enough to be raised in one of their conservative homeschool cults... 8 kids. 2 girls, were uneasy about the doctrine for a bit but were taught by parents to be submissive so they just accepted it. 4 other boys, no empathy or feelings whatsoever, became three hateful people and one neo-nazis. The third girl, fought against it with moderate ideas, advocating for women's rights, etc. Was verbally abused and taunted by them and her parents to the point of extreme depression, self harm, possibly suicidal thoughts idk. Hasn't left Christianity, but graduated early to get away from them. Then me, enby (assigned male). Not even open about it, but different from the other guys bc I actually have empathy and feelings. Depression, self-harm, suicidal thoughts (the usual), survived bc of outside friends I had in secret, became a pagan liberal but still really mentally screwed up...
I do wonder if the enlargement of the parts of the brain dealing with fear conditioning, self-deception and emotional learning but lack of emotional regulation are because most if not all extreme conservatives (at least in my campus "dataset" of about 50) have survived extreme cases of abuse and either a) became numb to it and started convincing themselves to do it to others because it's "right" or b) became extremely depressed, suicidal, learned heightened empathy and critical thinking by surviving that and ended up in the "liberal" dataset.
Lookup "Generational Trauma."
Families of all different walks of life, from generation to generation are just stuck in cycles of perpetual trauma that they act out and pass down to their children.
With therapy you start to learn about and recognize your subconscious responses and triggers to this trauma and how to break out of that pattern.
This ensures that what they say and do no longer holds power over you, that you stop acting on or acting out your own trauma response, and most importantly you break the cycle and stop passing it down to your kids.
There's a lot to be said about the trauma response and a need for control. So I could see a) pretty easily. B) takes a strong person, but it's certainly possible.
Raven, hang in there and great job so far! The best revenge is a long, fulfilling life. Gets 'em every time. 🤘🏼🥰 Let's fuckin' go! 🔥🥳
I'm so glad you eventually escaped that, Internet Stranger. I hope you continue to get the help you need. Good wishes to you.
To still be republican you'd certainly have to be a sociopath.
Because their extremist speech is normalized. Go on any xitter thread with a political tone and it's basically red flag after red flag of tweets that will be on the "what we know about the shooter" graphics in the future.
Same reason why every time someone is murdered it turns out it was done by a murderer.
"We are all donestic terrorists". The GOP had never been more honest, and probably never will be again.
Something something Dunning Kruger skews right something something
The funny thing about Dunning & Kruger, their study was based on faulty science. They believed their own bullshit and loudly proclaimed their findings that "felt right". And it became a meme, when a bunch of people believed their headline without checking their study first, including me. There is no significant correlation.
So, stupid people overestimating their abilities? Let's start with examining Dunning & Kruger.
It's Krugers all the way Dunning!
It's ironic that if you proclaim to be communist or anarchist, they'll basically blacklist you, yet one of our political parties is also the largest organized hate group in the nation, and we just accept that as normal.
This dude LITERALLY pulled an ISIS beheading his father while basically giving the same talking points AS FUCKING ISIS.
Swatting, bomb threats, planting bombs, death threats, murder, mass shootings, election tampering, sedition, attacking government institutions. Let's call a spade a spade. They're a terrorist organization
This is not an edited photo. CPAC literally created and wore that banner of their own volition.
And they have the gall to say liberalism is a mental disorder.
Say it with me now, "P-R-O-J-E-C-T-I-O-N"
...and even taking that BS at face value, an actual mental disorder is infinitely preferable to sober and calculated malice.
"No -your- brain is broken! I'm just plain ol' evil."
Their brains are broken. Depending on age, it the condition has a chance to be arrested, if not corrected. Until a significant amount of “not right leaning” people understand that at a core level, nothing will change.
Well said. We as a nation need to snap the fuck out of it and realize how insane this all is. How utterly abnormal all this should be.
It's astonishing they're even given a platform, much less being one of the most influential political parties in the nation
They aren't all that organized to be fair
US doing a bang up job of curbing that far right terrorism problem. At least this one wasn't part of the armed forces.
This is a major argument for anti-fascist action. Liberal mainstream society has always been very bad at combating fascism because they desire calm and order and lawfulness which fascists can exploit. So besides "liberal anti-fa" using legal means like suing the KKK out of existence you also need autonomous anti-fa to prevent fascists from recruiting. That is why it's legitimate to prevent fascists from speaking using "impolite" means, because fascists speech using clever lies creates fascist thinking. The right to free speech has to exclude hate speech.
PS: A very good book on this topic: Fascism Today: What It Is and How to End It (link)
Going to read that article, but first an aside... Look at all those fucking rich white people in that photo.
How could anyone ever think that the Republicans actually represent anyone besides rich white people? And mostly men at that.
Somehow the most calm and vegetarian liberal mainstream societies are also the least fascist, and fascism doesn't grow there. So maybe it just works and your fixes are not required.
Why would you attack their visibility if the problem is their existence and visibility is a feedback allowing to measure it?
Only if fascists use clever lies, how does one tell between "liberals" and fascists?
And also that fascist thinking is exactly ...
... this. Exclusion of rights given as a dogma.
You don't need that, you can just allow people to not communicate with carriers of views they consider inhumane, but you still choose the most fascist way of countering fascism.
Also:
You allow you child to do everything, they might get wounded in one way or another, they might become somebody whom you wouldn't want them to be, they might make mistakes, but they might also be happy.
You keep them locked (figuratively), and they won't become anyone at all.
You make your own choices in between and they become closer to the latter, but conscious of what they could have been.
Yes absolutely true. Fascism needs specific circumstances to grow. My thinking is that democracy needs prosperity, security and education.
Property: I mean a modest prosperity instead of precarious living like having a job and being able to afford a home and to raise children without working yourself to death and also without both parents having to work full time (or 2-3 jobs) and neglecting the children. Security: Not being at war and not in constant fear about terrorists and evils that besets society on all sides pumped through the media. Education: Media that doesn't constantly deceive, obscure and manipulate you
I'm not interested in measuring it that way.You can measure it differently. But every time you let crypto fascists speak with their dogwhistles and whatnot they recruit people - depending on the overall material conditions of society too of course. But it is a naive view to think that people are pure or immune to recruitment by fascists. History tells us.
Yeah good point. I'd argue that the current spade of fascists are mostly interested in grabbing power. Trump and the new GOP isn't an ideological fascist party, they just use the mechanisms of fascism to gain power and serve their masters interests. Liberals use other mechanisms to gain power - which are shit too but they do not base inequality
But this explains why e.g. climate activists or pacifists view the current "leftist"parties in the US and EU as kind of right wing extremists. It's not fascism, but... well.
No, fascist thinking is a belief that inequality based on mythological identity is not just acceptable but morally correct.
What I said is that specific actions do not serve the underlying goal of free speech but the opposite. And it's not dogma because we have strong psychological and historic evidence for this. It's also law in many EU countries since fascism last rise.
But I agree that it's far from ideal. And autonomous anti-fa action against fascist speech shouldn't be legal either, but it has good arguments going for it. Ideally we do not have the socioeconomic conditions that creates fertile ground for it. You can see I again blame the mainstream establishment for trump even though the act shocked, just shocked and bewildered by all this. This is the core of why liberal societies are bad at combating extreme fascism.
I don't quite understand what you mean here. But like I said, laws like that are not fascist, you could call them authoritarian or statism. But autonomous anti-fa is grass roots not authoritarian / statism.
On an unrelated note: The goal of free speech / that amendment is to allow accountability of those in power and dissenting voices to be heard. So that people can say what is wrong with the country and have a chance to be heard.
The current monopolization of news and social media under the control of a tiny minority of ultra-rich goes completely against the idea of free speech - at best they treat speech as a commodity and bias everything in favor of the most profitable speech (clickbait that leads to endless circular arguments and more ad sales). At worst someone like Elon Musk pushes his own personal uneducated beliefs about society. Quasi-Monopolization violates the 1st amendment imho.
So about your "let your child do some stupid things so they can learn". That would require at least that they see the consequences of their action, and in this case it's unimaginable suffering. And how couldl the learn if the media is captured by corporations? So I disagree, they should learn from history or from science. But corporate interest also launched massive anit-science PR campaigns because of climate change.
PS: Oops I wrote way too much lol
In short, my opinion on this exchange:
It's a complex subject. I think there's a bit of bias in the direction of wealth inequality in your view, and a bit of bias in the direction of skepticism of managing society by laws (I don't trust a person to make the right decision for another person) in my view.
Another person driven to hate and violence by the republican party when all he needed was solutions from the left.
He sued the feds 4 times, including one time when:
Fucking hell, and he thought the Republicans were going to be the ones to help him?
Biden literally tried to forgive a bunch of student loan debt last year, but was blocked by Republicans.
I know there's no explaining mental illness, but our country is failing people when they're this misinformed.
From another source, decapitation aside, this guy does sound severely mentally ill.
https://www.phillyburbs.com/story/news/crime/2024/01/30/middletown-police-bucks-county-justin-mohn-michael-mohn-death-levittown-upper-orchard/72416523007/
"The video, reviewed by this news organization, includes a manifesto-style rant in which Mohn calls on his followers to take action against federal employees. It is titled “Call to Arms for American Patriots.”
After holding up what appears to be his father’s severed head, he says he now controls and commands “America’s police and military,” and calls for the execution of federal employees, and puts bounties on the FBI director, the Attorney General and the Chief Supreme Court Justice.
He rails against the LGBTQ community, the Black Lives Matters and “terrorist organizations such as anti-fa.” He calls for the seizure of federal buildings and says federal employees should be “publicly executed for betraying their country.”
This is how stochastic terrorism works. Fox news pumps out a constant stream of crazy shit that they can plausibly say are opinions or entertainment, then vulnerable people who are exposed to it intertwine it with their own delusions and carry out acts of violence. Fox and others keep upping their rhetoric to keep their people hooked, their viewers keep escalating their rhetoric, and their viewers become more and more radicalized. It starts with mentally ill people who've been poisoned by this taking action, and eventually the terrorism gets normalized.
IMHO, this will continue to happen more regularly until there are red hat mobs going door to door executing everyone with a pride flag or black lives matter sign in their window. The cops will be there to make sure no one resists the mob, just like they did with white riots in the past.
BRB - Need to make sure my pride and BLM flags are clearly visible. :)
Again…. NOT a cross-dresser.
I'm sure the far-right is desperately searching for something "leftist" to pin on him while simultaneously applauding him in their seedy little Nazi chat rooms.
Not a drag queen.
Not LGBTQ+.
🤔
Not a minority.
Not non-white
Not female
In fact, he was adamantly anti-LGBTQ+.
Come to think of it, a lot of other terrorists are anti-LGBTQ+ as well.
I'm sure there's no connection tho.
Republicans are a threat to humanity.
While I don't disagree, this person was also quite clearly mentally ill.
Now who is it that keeps cutting support for... Oh right...
There are many examples of mentally ill Republicans
Republicans are an example of the mentally ill.
Are there examples of Republicans who are not mentally ill?
let’s see here…
nah
And not many examples of mentality stable Republicans.
I doubt they'll stop with people, friend. They will keep trying to eat the whole world, until there is nothing left but themselves to eat, or they are stopped by us.
How much would fox news cover this if this was an Antifa / BLM person?
Oops, that doesn't happen because Antifa / BLM aren't remotely a concern to the FBI, unlike right-wing extremists responsible for the vast majority of political violence and murder.
Political violence has been perpetrated by the right wing extremists far, far more often than the left, yes. Totally agree with your point.
But I have to speak up: The FBI has tracked and harassed leftists and black activists in the past and I don't want anyone to think otherwise.
True, but it wasn't always true. In the 1960s and 70s the far left was more violent. Not especially relevant, but it is interesting.
Fox won't cover it
I think it's time the term "Y'all Queda" comes back.
Idk about you but I never stopped using it.
That and magats are my two favorites
I still like red hatters, but that never caught on
Yeah I don't think we want to demonize the folks that work at Redhat.
Haha me too, though IBM sure is making it easier :(
Yeehawdists
Cult 45
I've never heard this one! Hahahahaha! wow!
Someone better find a March Hare to accompany that MAGA hatter.
That's disturbing. That quoted bit of dialogue definitely has some grandiose language. Seems like yet another case where extremist right wing media fed into psychosis leading to a tragic outcome.
Yeah definitely a mix of mental health and too much propaganda. In the quoted portions he is clearly delusional. He tells all postal workers that if they don't quit and join their countrymen he can't promise protection for them. He may have done something like this anyway but clearly the anti Biden message has resonated with him.
Are we calling conservatism a psychosis now? Ok, I can see that.
I think it's more that this nut job latched onto conservatism as his thing. If it wasn't that it would have been something else.
That being said, if conservatism wasn't preventing adequate mental healthcare maybe this wouldn't have happened.
But it wasn't something else and it's never something else.
Really? No crazy person has ever snapped and killed someone for any reason other than conservatism?
What ideology produces a comparable number of spree killers to the far right?
You don't have to be "crazy" to kill someone (unless you care to argue that every soldier is a crazy person) and you don't have to be far-right to kill someone.
But American conservatives absolutely target and encourage murderers using exactly the same methods as Muslim extremists do. They told him exactly who he should kill and why he should kill them.
Would he have killed him anyway, even if conservatives hadn't pushed him to? Sure, maybe.
But in this reality, he held up a severed head to the public and repeated conservative talking points.
I'd agree that conservatism is probably the biggest one as far as political idealogy currently but throughout history communism and anarchism have certainly had their share. I'm sure we could find examples from just about any of them if we took the time to dig into it. I wasn't limiting it to political ideologies though. Crazy people have snapped and murdered people for all sorts of non political reasons as well.
The far-right intentionally targets vulnerable people. It's why all their heroes are teenagers or violently mentally ill.
Imagine what hes going to realize/think/feel when he gets medicated.
"He's going to get medicated, right?" -Padme
I think he will hold onto this fractured reality because letting go of it will be too painful.
You don't need to be psychotic to murder someone. Soldiers can be trained to kill. There could be nothing in his head to medicate away, just a bunch of conservative dogshit where his mind should have been.
Stochastic terrorism in action.
Donald Trump & his #fascist #GOP caused this.
Most sane republican
"Federal employee"
From the article he singles out the Post Office.
Was his dad a Postal worker?
Huh. Back in the day it was the postal workers who did the decapitating. That's why we call it "going postal."
Not sure if you’re rearranging fact for effect, but it was a workplace shooting at the Edmond, OK post office by another postal worker that coined the phrase “going postal”. Dude brought a few handguns and killed 15 and wounded I don’t know how many more.
Remember when shootings were so rare that a shooting happening one time at one place was enough to spawn a lasting phrase in American English? Simply fascinating how the times have changed.
Yeah what would you call shootings now if you used the same naming logic? Going high-school? Going k-to-12? Going American?
Also, I vote we call falling into an inescapable pattern of producing half-assed work "going Boeing."
going dark knight
Yeah we had a ton of guns back then too but our culture today is fucked. Division and hate get clicks and our media is selling it.
Mo' people Mo' shootings. Knowhatimsayinn
Bit more than just the one time though.
Ok, sure, however the reference was for the origins of “going postal”, which I recall very well being associated with the Oklahoma shooting. The Wikipedia entry agrees with my memory. Not just post office workplace shootings.
Sure, I just copied it from this Wikipedia entry.
You should listen to the "you're wrong about" podcast on "going postal." It's an interesting dive in that.
Postal is awesome, buy more stamps, and vote out your reps that have been waning them down for decades.
Any one left of Reagan in 2024:
Someone with Reagan's exact politics in this day and age would be considered a left-wing woke monster by most of the modern right.
Dude did a lot of tax hikes and was against having capital gains taxes be separate from income taxes.
He did try to genocide the gays though and modern conservatives do like to genocide the gays.
Don't forget his gun control measures, although that was admittedly only for racist reasons...
That's gun control history
Why is it the people with the crazy issues tend to gravitate to right wing conspiaracy?
You know what you get when you have a crazy left-winger? Someone with 50 cats and a lot of save the trees and Co3x1st bumper stickers.
I keep wondering this, too. I am sure it doesn't help that those on the far right seem to demonize mental health help and showing weekness/needing any help. Besides the general crazy conspiracies and tendency to blame the government/others for what they see as wrong in society
Michael Reinoehl Willem Van Spronsen
"Mohn was arrested near a National Guard training center in Fort Indiantown Gap at around 10:00 PM, approximately an hour before a 911 call was made about 100 miles away by a woman who told operators that she found her husband’s head in their home. Police had been called to the residence earlier, around 7:00 PM when they found Mohn’s headless body after being alerted to the existence of the video."
Wait so the police show up at 7 PM and find the body. Then leave and come back when the wife found the head. Jesus that is fucked.
Yea what the actual fuck is going on with that police force?
If I were in that district I'd be calling my representative to put pressure on their mayor cuz they just traumatized an innocent women for no reason. Coroner could've been there and gone in 4 hours, hooooly shiiiit
To be fair, we don't know where she found the head. They might have thought he took it with him.
For how much we spend on policing there should be no mistakes.
There can be mistakes. What they need is real accountability when they make them.
Both sound so good though, do we have to pick?
OBVIOUSLY a Deep State FBI agent beheaded his father and went on a rant to make REPUBLICANS look bad!
It would be funny if it weren't guaranteed that this is exactly what they will say.
Christ. What a time to be living in. And only four generations after the last time.
I'm not American, but your Republicans need to chill the fuck out.
That's an understatement
I've been watching in horror pretty much all of my short 30 years of life from America. And I wish the problem was just here.
Trump should give him a medal. This is how a perfect Trump fanboy looks like.
Also, this is the party of "family values". Crazed son kills father for working for a living to support his dumb, ungrateful ass.
"Perfectly innocent. Deserves a pardon."
Average Right-Wing behavior at this point.
Bro what the fuck
I know right?!?!
What the actual fuck. These people are insane and a danger to society. The con movement is truly a cult.
This guy is quite literally mentally ill. He is not representative of the entire conservative movement. His classmates from a decade ago attest he had been going off the deep end back then.
He isn't representative of conservatives as a whole, but the rhetoric pushed by many prominent Republicans is exactly the sort of propaganda to inspire these actions.
Mentally ill yes, but if you think he's the only right wing person in the death cult, hoo boy.
Not all Republicans are mentally ill, but mentally ill people sure do love them.
Right!? It's not a coincidence...
I just want to take this opportunity to remind people how important it is to vote.
And also: Tell your Republican friends and Republican echo-chambers that if the whole thing is rigged as they say, then why should they even bother voting? Tell them to consider protesting! :)
If you don't vote, then it's people like this psycho who will get representation instead of you. If that doesn't freak people out I don't know what will.
Or don't, if you want to keep your head
Mental illness and right wing conspiratorial fear-mongering, like peas and carrots.
There are real dangers to spreading conspiratorial disinformation, it's a call to violence for many mentally ill people.
Jesus Christ, fucking minding your own business when your own son murders you and decapitates you because he was radicalized by the extremist rhetoric used constantly by the Right.
It’s past time for a cult intervention.
Sounds like schizophrenia to me. Fear-mongering by politicians only exacerbates existing mental health issues.
Sad day.
The only question now is if Trump will pardon this loyal foot soldier. ( /s )
WTAF.
What the ever loving fuck..?
What the fuck
Something tells me that we might have the next Anders Breivik.
Columns? Do illegal immigrants come in Phalanx formations?
I'm not saying that the person who said this isn't nuts but, as a point of interest , they did use "fifth column" appropriately.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column
Yes except I would argue that while he believes immigrant are the fifth column, the actual fifth column is this guy.
No, they hit us with Excel spreadsheets!
Also to my knowledge, we have only stationed troops in poland??
I'm pretty sure that's just factually untrue.
Exactly, but when your news intake is fox news, oan and other "news" providers (with VERY large air quotes), facts become very... Shall we say, liquid ..
im not even sure we could refer to those as facts at that point either "information tidbits" maybe.
I had a lot of problems with the mods on this one. Good luck.
I posted it to News last night, I would have posted it here but I couldn't find a link where the political angle was clear from the headline alone.
That's really the trick for politics. You want to be 100% clear that there IS a political angle.
Whoever submitted this one did a good job finding an article with the right headline.
In my case the mod in News deleted a post because they didn't like the source. Then when I use a new source, he deleted the new post because it's a duplicate of the old post he deleted. I'm sure they have some circular logic to defend their action.
Early on for this story the sources WERE super bad. Fox News, Daily Mail, New York Post. I struggled to find one myself and finally hit on a local news site:
https://www.phillyburbs.com/story/news/crime/2024/01/30/middletown-police-bucks-county-justin-mohn-michael-mohn-death-levittown-upper-orchard/72416523007/
Welp, the violence is starting sooner than I thought.
If you think this is the start, you have missed a lot of news.
Well if it helps ease your mind, he is clearly mentally unwell, not any sort of organization planning strategic moves. Similar murders have happened for a while.
What percentage of Trump supporters are mentally well? My mind is definitely not eased.
Well I'd say the constant extremist propaganda pushed by FOX, OAN and the likes at the very least carelessly accept that their message will incite such mentally receptive people to commit violence. So while not "planned" it's certainly viewed as acceptable "collateral damage".
And for some of the more extreme ones of them they definitely DO want such acts of violence to occur and they knowingly using stochastic terrorism to ferment it.
Starting? This is by no means the first nutjob who kills for MAGA/Trump. They've had a whole insurrection with several deaths caused.
A lot can be said for mentally ill and the right wing and extremism, but again, this guy was mentally ill which caused him to do something horrible. This is not really something new. He should not have been fed a steady stream of lies, but he should also have received mental health care.
Watch out for those far left mobs they'll sever your father's hea... Oh shit. Oh fuck.
🤢
Don't worry they'll call him a leftist agitator and keep on without blinking an eye. 🙄
I truly wonder what he thinks will happen now, my thought is he thinks he'll go down as a martyr and I wonder what will happen when and if he sees that nothings really happening
Anyone have a mirror?