How did Lemmy.world become more popular than Lemmy.ml?
I don't understand how Lemmy.world developers managed to surpass both Lemmy.ml and Beehaw.org instances in user activity.
I don't understand how Lemmy.world developers managed to surpass both Lemmy.ml and Beehaw.org instances in user activity.
Lemmy.ml actively asked people to sign up elsewhere. They have a small server and aren't meant to be a general instance.
Lemmy.world is run by people who have one of the larger Mastodon servers, and actively advertises to be open and neutral.
It’s also the devs server and they have Lemmy code to write. Can’t be spending time moderating.
And the other stuff
It's also presented as the default on most apps, I believe
That’s a big one. People tend to go with the default
That's why the apps on the official stores are so important. Convenience wins.
Rule of the defaults. Most people use whatever the default is. That's why there is always a push to he the default thing. Microsoft pushes edge on their stuff, Google pushes chrome, apps pushes safari, etc.
That’s also why Google pays Apple $20 billion annually to be Safari’s default search engine. Most people can’t be bothered to change their defaults/don’t want to after having it as their default for so long.
This is the correct answer. The devs have been saying this for years but new users often weren't aware of this and saw it as the default instance. It's good to see that's changed.
I think most of it has to do with that lemmy.world has better hardware than other instances. The admin Rudd has a lot of experience running federated services as well. So it may be his first rodeo lemmy-wise but not hosting a federated service with a large user-base.
So when a lot of smaller instances started getting overwhelmed and stopping signups, lemmy.world was going strong without the performance issues that other instances might see.
That along with the fact that NSFW content is allowed makes lemmy.world a good alternative for Reddit refugees looking for something stable with a similar set of rules as well.
I myself joined lemmy.ml at first, then beehaw.org when lemmy.ml asked everyone to spread out, and finally found home on lemmy.world because I didn’t really like how downvotes are disabled on beehaw. Not to mention the defederation that beehaw has done recently. Although I can understand and appreciate why they’ve done that.
I've signed up for a bunch of them and still haven't decided where I want to make my main. I know that annoys some people but I love it because it means I get to have a choice! I think I'll have a Lemmy world account since they're big, buti also want to find a good smaller community to have slower more meaningful conversations. I hope the Lemmy protocol adds support for account linking some day.
Same story for me, although I keep coming back to Lemmy.world in the first instance, at least for the Lemmy instances (also explored kbin, tildes and squabbles). Mixed feelings about Lemmy.ml as I think there’s virtue being on the instance the devs run as it seems unlikely to go away, although there has been the talks around political views. From the political side, I do hang out more often than not in tech spaces though so I doubt it’d actually impact anything I’d want to engage in discussion about.
Also have an account with Beehaw which was my first but silly as it may seem, the name of that one puts me off a bit. “Lemmy.world” sounds like something I can more easily communicate to a friend verbally, for whatever that is worth.
Indeed. Even though I'm using the Lemmy.ca instance to distribute the load, I use Ruud's Mastodon instance.
I've moved once so far, but it wasn't as straightforward forward as I'd hoped. Do you know of a simple way to migrate (export/import) communities and settings across instances?
There's a userscript somewhere. Check !plugins
Interesting. I browse Lemmy exclusively on mobile, for a one time transfer of communities I guess I could set up greasemonkey and find that script. Thanks!
I left Beehaw because the defederated from instances where half my communities were at. Ended up on Lemmy world because they had my favorites.
I started at BeeHaw because they have a lot of cool communities. I didn't want to write an essay (I'm exaggerating ...a little) to sign up for an account so I ended up on sh.itjust.works.
Haha same. I started at beehaw but am having a hard time manually adding communities that I want to keep in that feed since they aren't onfederated instances. So I moved to sh.ithust.works and reddthat.
I'll probably keep beehaw, I like a lot of what it has to offer and it's cool for it to be a specific corner for me. But one of the others will probably become my default home
At this point I don’t know how I got here and where I’m going and I’m too afraid to ask
Why did I create a Lemmy world account as opposed to beehaw or ml? Because it's the first one I saw. Because it doesn't matter. Because I don't know what ml stands for. Because Lenny world said "general use." Because I didn't have to fill out an application. Because I can still interact with everything else, and again, it doesn't matter.
And ml is?
the national tld for Mali, but the lemmy ml owners chose it for a "Marxist-Leninist" reference. no kidding.
fun fact - they* also deny genocides committed by (even nominally) communist regimes.
*a lot of them, and even those who don't actively, still stick with the goons who do.
Oh dear, and I thought it was somehow related to machine learning/AI stuff
Do you have a source for that?
The real answer here in the comments. Glad I went with world. Though I only did it because it seemed like more people would gravitate toward thag name than the others.
The top level domain of the Metherlands
Motherland if I'm not mistaken.
Seconded
I joined because lemmy.sdf.org is often inaccessible. And also because lemmy.sdf.org blocked lemmy.world, so why not go straight to the source?
I signed up on the 12th, after spending a little time comparing with the information I had. My thought process was:
Not to discount your other points, but lemmy.ml isn't hosted in Malaysia. The .ml TLD is for Mali, a country in Africa. And the site is hosted by OVH, on servers in France.
Wow, thanks for that, I really thought .ml was Malaysia. While I had some mild concerns about Malaysia, isn't Mali a shit show as far as human rights? If the servers are in France, that mitigates a lot, but I think I have more concerns about Mali.
The country of Mali has little to do with lemmy.ml, apart from an annual transaction worth 10 USD.
Mali has nothing to do with the instance though. Every country has a top level domain, like .CA or .UK etc. Most of them you have to pay to make a website using the domain. Mali is one country that lets anybody use the ML domain for free. That’s the only reason Lemmy.ml uses it, they have nothing to do with Mali else-wise. (Well there is the bit about ML = Marxist Leninist, but that is a bit of a backronym.)
For me ML stands for Machine Learning. Mali is sitting on a goldmine of a tld, and could turn into Tuvalu
Ya. I’m pretty sure they just took .ml because it was a cheaper domain, but someone’ll have to correct me on that.
The admins of .ml are tankies. The letters don't reference a place, they reference a couple of communist leaders who the admins are fans of. I'm surprised that more people aren't aware of that on this platform.
It's intended to stand for Marxist - Leninist, is what I heard. I didn't want to support a tankie thing which is why I went to world.
I don't think it stands for either, I saw somewhere that it stands for Marx-Lenin since the founders are communists
Classic communists, making their own tlds and everything
It is indeed a Mali domain, but of course people choose their domains because of their niche community - in case of .ml, it often stands for "Machine Learning". In this case I am pretty sure you are right and it is meant to represent " Marxist/Leninist" in this case, it is known that the instance admins are close to that ideology.
I love how World and Blahaj are lgbt friendly and anti authoritarianism, unlike .ml.
Can I ask what worries you about it being hosted on Malaysia?
I'm not any authority, and I could be just ignorant, but my understanding is that the Malaysian government makes liberal use of laws against sedition and that govern communication to silence dissent. There was an artist who has been jailed a couple times this year for political satire. That kind of atmosphere doesn't seem like a good place to host communities that want free discussion.
Malaysian police are also asking Interpol to help them investigate a comedian in New York over a joke she made about Malaysia. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-65894721
They haven't asked for extradition yet, but it worries me that they could ask for extradition from the US just because a US citizen made a mean joke that hurt their feelings. If they asked, would the US comply? Seems pretty anti-free-speech if they did.
That's a pretty valid reason, I'll have to look into it more as I already created an account on .ml. While I do call myself an anarchist/communist, I don't zealously jump at the defense of a government without nuancing the situation.
Excep
.mlisn’t the TLD for Malaysia… .myis..mlis Mali.And TLDs have little to do with where stuff is hosted.
.itis Italy and.aiis Anguilla, but not always by Italian or Anguillan companies.I knew that .ml stand for "Marxist-Lenninist" and now that I realize the other lem thought .ml meant it's being hosted in Malaysia I'm cracking up. That's a fun mishap.
It's decidedly not hosted in malaysia. I'm also unclear why that would be a problem though.
This is pretty much the same thought pattern I had, however I made my account here after Beehaw defederated and have since decided not to use it anymore. Lemmy.world reminds me so much of the older style internet and forums and it’s a breath of fresh air.
As someone signing up for lemmy.world, my reasons were:
Otherwise, I didn't give much though to which instance to pick.
Someone posted it, maybe in r/piracy, and I signed up. Didn’t give any thought to which instance I was signing up for because I didn’t understand the fediverse well enough yet lol.
Same - sounds better, like .com vs .io and similar.
Mainly because signups were closed on Lemmy.ml and they were not on Lemmy.world.
This is pretty much the answer. The number of people who actually made the decision based on "reasons" is very few.
Ya, I applied for beehaw.org and didn't get access after a few days and lemmy.world was open so made an account there. Not much else to it.
Exactly this. I tried numerous times on lemmy.ml and never got an email back for the verification, so I just gave up. World is the next logical choice. Since beehaw is already defederating, if you're coming to the fediverse, joining an instance that's already isolating itself, even if it has good reasons, doesn't seem appealing. So lemmy.world it is. Tho here I am using my kbin mostly because then I have kbin, mastodon, and Lemmy integration all in one.
I am new like most of us. When I signed up I had no idea what an instance was. To me the name Lemmy.world sounded like it was more general and therefore would have more content so I picked that one.
Yeah the name sounded the most inviting. It's Lemmy... That's the name of what I want... And it's world, that sounds like a generic description of "everything". But at the end of the day I just clicked a link in a comment. Seemed to me to be the more popular one suggested.
Lemmy.ml are tankies anyway so, good
Lemmy.ml had a pinned post asking new people to go elsewhere while beehaw was denying “membership” to their little bubble. lemmy.world was welcoming everyone with open arms.
Same here!
I went for the most generic "official" sounding name.
Underrated comment. I picked it because I had no idea what I was doing and it sounded all-encompassing and I wanted access to everything. I didn't even know what an instance was. I just picked it because it sounded like a good guess to get access to all of Lemmy.
Yeah same. But from .world we're able to access all the other instances right?
Well, not beehaw right now.
Regardless of the how, I think it's really cool that the top instance isn't run by the devs. Really shows off the power and appeal of decentralized services.
Probably because its name sounds official and it allows quick registration while others need approval (some never approves you).
Turns out it’s the right choice as the admin seems very active in updates and fixes. Lemmy.world also has a more chill homey vibes. At least that’s what I observed so far.
I was overwhelmed by the options of instances. Then Reddit is Fun had a pop up message suggesting to go to lemmy.world. I trusted Reddit is Fun so I followed its suggestion.
Plus it's easier to say and communicate "lemmy world"
Funny how a lot of us originally found Reddit through watermarks on pics on Ebaum's World. Maybe worth flooding reddit with pics watermarked lemmy.world
I open today rif accidently and it started to work again. Logged out mind you. Got a weird message with instructions to log back into my Reddit account. Was able to browse Reddit as a guest on the meanwhile. Didn't want to log back in as fuck Reddit.
Did rif sell to Reddit? Couldn't blame him if he did but all the same I am leaving. Just can't see how rif would still work without Reddit owning his servers. Anyone know what is going on?
Reddit wasn't interested in buying any of the 3rd party apps. Since you know, apparently they're so great at making apps that there were a dozen third party ones that people preferred.
I don't know, but it might be that Reddit is only limiting API keys for authenticated sessions. That way the anonymous requests still work up to the free API rate limits.
The developer for RIF told me to come here. I figured that I should trust the person that created the app that I've used for hundreds of hours.
Same. Like the parent of a child grown up, RIF has been forced to let us go, but not without influencing our direction lol
My exact reason. Had the popup show.
Then I created my own instance
When I had to choose I thought .world means, it‘s the central, most important place to be. Didn‘t know what the other abbreviations meant. Didn‘t care.
They're just top Level Domains (TLDs). It's like .com, doesn't mean anything outside of a name usually.
The other abbreviations are simply website domains. FYI the ".ml" from the mail lemmy dev means Marxist-Leninist, because they are tankies.
How do we know that? Have they said so?
Lemmy.world is run by an actually competent admin who has experience running other Fediverse software.
https://lemmy.world/u/ruud
I think lemmy.world js the only one of the three that are still accepting new sign ups.
Lemmy.ca is, but you have to write a blurb. It's a filter to keep spammers, bad actors, and bots down. Seems to be working though -- it's #8 on the population list and growing even though it is "closed".
Charts: https://the-federation.info/platform/73
There are lots of instances accepting sign-ups -- here's a good overview: https://github.com/maltfield/awesome-lemmy-instances
Lemmy.ml had sign ups closed. Behaw required a short story or something to get excepted. Lemmy.world was accepting sign-ups wasn't hosted somewhere shady and had active communities. It was a pretty easy choice. Assuming the admins have a pledge drive or something to host on AWS/GCP so we can get better burst capabilities I'd love to donate.
Donations to keep the lemmy.world instance up-and-running can be made through:
https://opencollective.com/mastodonworld or https://patreon.com/mastodonworld
@ruud does good work, and he's a HELL of a good admin. I'd recommend that we all contribute in order to have a place to gather. I've been looking at the various solutions to the Reddit conundrum and, personally, I think that lemmy.world is our best bet at this point...
EDIT: I have no affiliation; I just think that we should pay it back however we can. It costs money to run servers and, even if we just "buy him a coffee," every little bit helps IMO.
@Ruud has been great and Lemmy.world has very transparent so I will throw some cash their way. The mastodon.world blog is transparent with costs and financials which I appreciate.
I would love to see if they have a roadmap of how they plan to address the current surge of traffic or if they plan to just wait it out with their current VPS.
@Ruud has been great and Lemmy.world has very transparent so I will throw some cash their way. The mastodon.world blog is transparent with costs and financials which I appreciate.
I would love to see if they have a roadmap of how they plan to address the current surge of traffic or if they plan to just wait it out with their current VPS.
Happens when you are one of the few allowing signups while others are blocking them.
RIF specifically directed me here. I didn't join one before that because I didn't know which one was "best". I honestly don't care which one I joined, I just wanted to be on the one everyone else is on. I know this mindset somewhat defeats part is the purpose of the federated communities. I don't care about that in the slightest I just want a clone of Reddit.
Also "world" sounds more generic/standard than ml. Most people probably think it's a military website or something.
You'll probably find 90%+ of casuals are in the same boat as me.
Casual here, and had the exact same situation lol.
Ditto
Same, though ML made me think "Machine Learning", and that it was a more tech-focused place. This was before I realised they they're all (broadly) the same, and assumed that they were groupings of similar topics like an old web-ring.
Hell I thought it meant Marxist Leninist
I'm pretty sure it actually does stand for that in lemmy.ml's case at least.
By keeping sign-ups open, mostly.
Lemmy.ml, to my understanding, was always meant to be a pilot instance from the devs of lemmy. Beehaw is kind of its own forum. There is also sh.itjust.works, but that has been caught up in some federation drama, and I don't think people like the name. Lemmy.world has been the right server at the right time to absorb everyone and I guess they have been able to keep up with sign-ups. Kudos to them.
Not really. We had a thedonald community for like 5 hours before it was banned, and a tiny number of people started shouting about how terrible we are because we don't read the minds of people joining.
Also, we're trying to run this instance democratically, and the first vote is a pretty easy no-brainer: defederate a hate speech instance. Not really "drama" as much as everyone has an opinion.
You can check out the discussion on the agora, the vast majority of the discussion is very respectful.
EDIT: Discussion I'm talking about is here.
I'm talking about on other instances, who are trying to figure out if they are defederating.
Rif sent me to lemmy.world to make an account. Didnt know the deal here and still kinda iffy but im getting the idea.
Just think of each separate site (AKA 'instances', like lemmy.world, sh.itjust.works) as different competing versions of Reddit. All with their own different subreddits.
The key difference though is that these instances are all partnered together ('federated') because they are running on the same technology so you can see posts from the other instances.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this. If I understand correctly, it functionally shouldn't matter which instance you use, because the experience is supposed to be the same across them all?
Does it matter that I'm on world? Is there a reason I might prefer a different instance? Something I'm missing?
A site admin can “defederate” from any other instance, effectively cutting the users of that instance off. Example: beehaw.org defederated from Lemmy.world, and now they’re both completely isolated communities.
So that could be the reason you’d want to create accounts on other instances.
As the other person mentioned, it matters to an extent because the admins of your instance have the ability to cut ties with other instances (defederation). They also have the ability to make instance wide actions like banning a community belonging to that instance (in the same way Reddit admins can ban a subreddit).
Some instances will naturally be stricter about what types of communities are allowed and what types of instances they will federate with. For that reason, it's important the instance you join aligns with your values, e.g. you probably don't want to join an instance that tolerates alt right communities.
aside from moderation stuff, smaller instances tend to be faster and, ironically, more reliable in the shorter term, as they're not constantly getting hugged to death
and in the long term while they may be more vulnerable to running out of cash and shutting down, they're less costly to maintain overall, so as long as people chip in that's not as big of a concern
Do you also see the same comments across all instances or are those local only?
I'm also very new to lemmy so forgive me if I'm a bit mistaken here, but I saw a decent analogy on the dbzero instance. An Instance is like a street and the communities are like businesses in that street. You can go to multiple streets (instances like lemmy.world, lemmy.ca, etc) and find a macdonalds (/c/technology) on each one. You can walk into each and expect to find the same-ish fries (content) but the people will be different, and if you talk to someone at macdonalds on 1st (technology@lemmy.world) you won't hear a response from someon at the macdonalds on 2nd (technology@lemmy.ml).
EDIT: But of course importantly, those streets are adjacent to eachother (federated) so you (your account) can walk freely between them even though you live on 1st street (lemmy.world)
That's how I'm trying to make sense of it anyway
Comments and posts sync. We are on different instances but are still talking to each other.
AFAIK you can see the same comments across all instances. I think of it like email, a person can send an email from @hotmail.com to @gmail.com, and they choose which domain to sign up with. It all has the same underlying foundation, so both websites can communicate.
For me honestly mostly the name. World. Seems like a default instance to me. What does ml even mean?
The name absolutely matters. Federation blah blah doesn't matter what instance blah blah and all that.
But regular people will flock to a "normal" or "official" sounding name and url. I won't be surprised if lemmy.world becomes the defacto instance
Yeah going forward I'm going to just recommend lemmy.world to people, straight to the point and avoid a lot of the confusion over what instance to pick
Hopefully, World gets its stability worked out.
Imagine it requires better hosting, which can be costly.
That's why I went there as well. Seemed like the default.
I also chose mine because the name (haha funny ArchLinux meme - iusearchlinux.fyi) . But also because it didn't sound like a default instance.
Main reason is, you gotta spread the load, the original purpose of federation is to share the costs so we can keep things affordable and prevent enshittification - not to dump it all on one instance, otherwise we might as well just turn Lemmy into a monolithic structure like Reddit, like YouTube, like Facebook, like Instagram, like Twitter and so on and so forth. We don't want to outgrow donation funding. And we don't want to make one instance "too big to block" lest it starts to enshittify or get greedy and gain too much power over the rest.
In my opinion, no instance should ever be considered the "default" of any federated platform.
While I agree that spreading the load is important, that doesn't make much sense to someone who's new to federation and is possibly coming from reddit where you just join and start commenting. People are automatically searching for a default.
That and beehive whatever sounded like a niche community and not a good launching point
Marxism–Leninism (at least that's what I made of it after hearing about the admins being tankies)
lol same
Idk about other people, but I don't really know how the instances work and the lemmy.world instance name seems the least abstract. Beehaw was confusing because it's not called lemmy so idk if it's a different thing or what, and idk what .ml means or stands for. Lemmy.world just looks like it's the default lemmy instance to me as a dunce who doesn't know how lemmy works.
Well put! I'm still very confused about "instances," and the way people talk about them makes it seem like you need to sign up for each one? But that can't be right, that would be way too confusing! Right? Lol.
Lemmy.world also seems like the best place to ask questions. Everyone I've encountered has been very helpful, and I see a lot of people talking about how positive the community is. So I'm trying to just sit back and enjoy the ride!
Imagine phone companies. An instance is like Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile or any other provider.
If you want to talk to your friends, it doesn't really matter what instance they're on.
A Verizon customer can still call a AT&T customer no problem. A Verizon customer doesn't need to also sign up for AT&T to do that. It all just.. works.
People talking about different instances is like people talking about different phone companies. "Verizon's coverage is better" or "T-Mobile has better support" or that kinda thing.
All the analogies to mobile providers reminds me of the time when they're was no interoperability for mms. Sms iirc worked but you better have the same company as a friend if you wanted to send that grainy vga photo you just took with your fancy new razr.
I signed up on lemmy.ca yet you signed up on lemmy.world. We can interact though.
This community we are interacting on is in lemmy.world's instance but since our two instances are federated (work together like many others) we can interact in general and through any community in our instances or other instances that are federated with ours.
And are usernames unique across instances or can anyone copy anyone else's username by signing up somewhere else with the same name or just making a new instance?
Usernames are only unique within servers, just like with email addresses. there's only one john@gmail.com but john@yahoo.com is a different person
Fellow Dunce here, exact same thought process for me.
Similar for me -- but add onto it, when I joined, lemmy.world was the only one of the top 3 most populated instances (with lemmy.ml and beehaw) that had open registration
.world is a catchy top-level domain
It's true. Before I migrated to lemmy.ca, I first subscribed to lemmy.world thinking it was the "official" instance.
They were also running on a beefier server. On my first week I tried several instances, but lemmy.world was the most consistently up that was also in jerboa.
it's fitting too since Lemmy is soon gonna take over the world
Beehaw defederates like it's going out of style, Lemmy.ml doesn't allow criticism of the CCP. Lemmy.world seems much more stable and neutral.
Alright guys the software has this defederate feature, now you do you but I suggest thinking of it like a break-glass-in-ca--
<Beehaw swings hammer>I joined world before I knew what an instance was. When the RIF app shut down, the developer recommended lemmy.world. I honestly, thought it was a single website.
Samesies
I wasn’t able to signup to lemmy.ml the best for me was to signup on lemmy.world and I get my journey started 😃
Same
My leading theory is that both lemmy.world and lemmy.ml were in a list of 5+ “recommended” communities, and “world” is the only recognizable word that implies all-inclusivity. And now that the world population is so high, more people will assume that is the “default/correct” community.
I joined world because I figured it was a global community, and did not want to limit myself before I even knew what I was joining into. I may end up making 2 or 3 accounts just to have access to separate, possibly defederated, communities.
this is spot on. that's exactly how it went for me and probably most others.
When I saw the Lemmy posts making the rounds on Reddit it was all for Lemmy.World, probably why its getting more pop.
I have active accounts in other instances to mimic the multi functionality, where I joined different communities.
Rif user here. When then 429s started I clicked on the RIF announcements part of the app which had a link to lemmy.world - and here I am.
They weren't selective about who is joining (unless people were absolute douches) and the community is pretty much nice to get along with.
You can't create communities on Beehaw and they are abusing defederation, no wonder it's not growing. I don't know about lemmy.ml
"abusing" defederation lol... They're using it precisely as it's intended my guy.
Idk about other people, but I don't really know how the instances work and the lemmy.world instance name seems the least abstract. Beehaw was confusing because it's not called lemmy so idk if it's a different thing or what, and idk what .ml means or stands for. Lemmy.world just looks like it's the default lemmy instance to me as a dunce who doesn't know how lemmy works.
I think you nailed it. It comes down to usability and user experience. Migrating from Reddit and not knowing shit about fuck, I obviously choose the largest sounding instance (.world). I still haven’t understood the whole thing yet, but the novelty is exciting and I’m willing to learn. Mass adoption needs a more streamlined experience though.
Signups were also open and easier on Lemmy.world
Honestly going for the 'largest' instance is kind of
dumbnaive. Smaller, faster instances provide a much better experience. Bigger is not better in the fediverse.The whole point is to decentralise power away from a single instance, CEO or monopoly. If you're on a small instance you can still see all the content you want from all the other instances and you might even get a meaningful say in how your experience develops.
We don't want to build another Reddit we want to build an alternative that is better structured.
Ok, but how is a new user supposed to know that?
Sorry 'dumb' might have been a bit harsh.
Then there should be a single unified sign up page that sends you to a random instance or something. You still need an easy onboarding process for less technical people
I signed up on lemmy.ca but their sublemmys aren't as populated as here. Plus jerboa let's me pick different instances.
I too do not know shit about fuck.
LOL Reminds me of how Chlamydia sounds like a beautiful name for a baby girl.
Ya it has a great domain name and didn't require an email when I signed up at least. I'm thinking about spinning up my own instance on AWS though since the lag and "bad gateway" stuff is annoying.
When Lemmy.ml was still on top I initially tried to sign up and was unable to. They could not handle the influx when the first migration occurred during the blackout days.
Lemmy.world on the other hand worked just fine.
As a refugee, I feel like learning more about lemmy lore.
I think they mean the reddit blackout, so its shared history.
Same. I do like the communities in lemmy.ml but says I didn't answer questions and registration is closed now..oh well.
When I was joining ~a month ago the situation was very different
I tried lemmy.one - had some issues joining
I saw beehaw.org - no downvotes - not my jam
I saw lemmygrad.ml - too political for my tastes
I saw sopuli.xyz - most of local posts and server maintenance posts were in language I don't speak - maybe I can find something fitting me more?
I saw lemmy.world - small but not looking like private, in Europe, so pings should be ok and description seemed fine
I also saw lemmy.ml - seemed like the main instance with the most users - having some understanding of federation from Mastodon migration I decided to spread the load...
And here we are :D
lemmy.ml really lagged in the early days and the first post on lemmy.world was /u/Ruud bragging about new hardware and how it’s all running smoothly with the influx
Any lemm.ee gang?
I have an account on .world but lemm.ee is a great name and the admin who runs the instance sounds like a cool guy. Plus .world is already way overloaded so I was looking for another instance.
I've been here for almost a month now, lemm.ee represent
I joined lemm.ee, but on my first day (3 days ago) lemm.ee was having significant issues with basic things like image upload or creating a community. Because of that, I moved over to lemmy.world "temporarily", but now I have more content here and am likely to just stay. I would have liked to have been on a smaller instance though for sure.
Yeah I feel ya, I have an account on the lemmy.world instance too. I feel like lemm.ee is faster in general, but the image upload limit does suck for this instance
I joined lemm.ee to see beehaw content again (and to take load off of .world) and all of the posts in hot and active are .world anyway. Oh well.
Represent
I was introduced to lemmy.world thru RIF. Ive been trying to figure it out ever since
i checked out three or four instances and this one seemed to have the least amount of bullshit to deal with
Sync for Reddit suggested it, so here I am.
Same here!
Lemmy.ml grew too large during the early days of June. They started to recommend people to NOT sign up for lemmy.ml and find another instance. The next instance that stood out was beehaw which rejected signups if they didn't like your answer as to why you wanted to join. After that, lemmy.world stood out the most.
Also because the political leanings of the lemmy.ml mods offended a lot of former redditors, including myself.
The lemmy devs are hardcore communists
Communists yes, communists no. Marxist Leninists aren't representative of all of socialism or all of communism. They'll tell you they are. As well as a lot of other things. Don't believe em. Capital C Communism is the noun they are most commonly identified by. But there are other types and scales of communism that are benign and often heavily disagree with Leninists. As a socialist myself I think debate is good, and tanks have no place in them. So I generally don't side much with ML or capitalists.
You may know all that stuff. But I know most don't due to the repressive censoring nature of capitalism. Which is the reason I mention it. Not to be pedantic or anything.
I chalk it up to the name. Your name is your central piece of branding, and can be used to your advantage. To me, when I wanted to join what I thought would probably be the largest lemmy instance, I didn't look at the stats or rules. I just looked at the names of all the not-tiny ones. This one clearly signified to me that the owner intends to become a very large Instance.
To most people, it will simply sound cool and be very easy to remember. Both of those are very important points.
Look at the automotive industry. Performance is desirable in a vehicle, certainly, but according to the market, does it seem more desirable than looking cool and having enough cup holders?
Both of those instances tend to be fairly censorship heavy, so people who just want to have a chat will be less interested in joining an instance that's going to shut down a conversation that they're enjoying.
Before all this stuff with reddit went down, most of the instances on the threadiverse we're fairly censorship heavy, and so people didn't really bother coming over from the main fediverse. With the establishment of new and more liberal instances and the infusion of new users, the potential of Lemmy has really been unleashed.
I've been really happy to see it.
Lemmy.ml basically shut up shop, redirecting people to other instances, because they were struggling, and the developers never really intended it to be as big as an instance as it has become.
Their registrations are still closed, so even if you wanted to join, that is not possible at the moment.
I tried to sign up with Beehaw.org, but for some reason it was taking forever. So I came here and joined. TBH, I'm still getting the hang of this whole lemmy.<whatever> thing. lemmy.world seemed like a good option.
in my case I couldn't sign up to ML it just kept timing out. this one didn't.
The goodbye message on RIF pointed to lemmy.world so that's why I'm here.
At this point I don’t know how I got here and where I’m going and I’m too afraid to ask
I didn’t really know what I was doing, and it sounded the most “official”.
Paradoxal regarding Lemmy.ml is the founder's instance 😁🫠
I found a massive table of all the lemmy instances that allowed me to sort by features that were important to me. Does the community allow up/down voting, does it allow NSFW, does it allow porn? How many communities has it defederated with?
lemmy.world ticked all the boxes that were important to me.
I came here from Apollo for Reddit. There’s a web app called wefwef that is a lemmy client that literally looks and works EXACTLY like Apollo. It even has apollo json import to find similar communities. Anyway, .world is the first server listed in the list so it’s where I registered.
I’ve been using iOS safari to browse Lemmy (added to home screen) and wefwef looks good. Switched and thanks for recommending.
From its Github, native notification is on the roadmap. That will be fantastic.
RedditSync app sent me here basically. I don't still understand whether I can log in with the lemmy.ml with the account I have on this lemmy.world.
You can't login on another instance, but you can interact with them from your own instance.
See it as email: I could be using Gmail and you could be using Outlook, but we can still interact with eachother. We cab send emails to eachother. But when I want to send you an email I'm not going to use the Outlook website because you happen to use Outlook. I use Gmail and so my account is on the Gmail servers. So I login on the Gmail website to send you that email.
You can't login, but you can browse the communities of other instances. I'm for example replying you from a different instance than you're on.
I left Beehaw because they defederated from instances where half my communities were at. Ended up on Lemmy world because they had my favorites.
The reason I picked it out of the small list of options I was given when I made my account is because it was the only one I thought I could remember.
I read several guides that suggested .world, that's it.
At the time I signed up Lemmy.World was pretty small, I just wanted an instance that wasn't .ml and had better policies... As it turned out the modlog is very transparent and they were deleting posts critical of the CCP/Russia. So I left and made an account on World.
It seems World was a good choice... Although now that it struggles with the amount of users it seems it might be worth setting an alt up on another instance just to help me out when it gets too busy over here.
I don't know man, I'm here because shit just works.
For me, all lemmy.world communities I subscribed was totally blocked on my beehaw.org account, so I create another account on lemmy.world.
Branding. More like the damn instance name. Lemmy.world sounds more... normal or official or whatever
Kinda surprised nobody mentioned this before. Like what is .ml? I've never heard of that. Lemmy.world is a much more approachable name.
Honestly a lot of the lemmy instance names are really bad too.
It's the top level domain of the nation of Mali. But in this case, I've seen it referred to as an abbreviation for "Marxist-Leninist" because those Lemmy admins are Communists.
For me it was the RIF good bye message, which mentioned lemmy.world.
Same here
For me, I was looking at the "All" tab on a different Lemmy instance as I was figuring things out and noticed basically everything was coming from Lemmy.world, so I created an account there to be my main one, for now at least.
Not sure tbh but I do love the Instance I found. Great community it seems and GREAT domain.
Lemmy.tf
I actually started on lemmy.ml but it was always having issues so I went to lemmy.world and had better luck. Not saying lemmy.ml is bad I’m just saying it wasn’t working when I tried!
Same… signed up for lemmy.ml back in 2019. Didn’t use it much since there wasn’t much content being posted. After Reddit shit itself, I came back to my account and was noticing some severe slowdowns and a high error rate. Moving to lemmy.world has been better, though it also has been getting crushed. The admin seems more committed to scaling up though.
I am new like most of us. When I signed up I had now idea what an instance was. To me the name Lemmy.world sounded like it was more general and therefore would have more content so I picked that one.
it was the first instance i found when searching. i think it was a reddit post. so maybe world was more promoted on bigger reddit subs?
Lemmy.world has a nice ring to it. More ding then dong.
A bit off topic, but isn't it great? Shows us decentralization is working!
I heard of Beehaw first but I got rejected twice when trying to make an account, so I tried World next and here I am.
Also don't understand how things work, so wasn't really sure what lemmy.ml was but I read it didn't matter where you created an account so I just stuck with World 🤷
I see a lot of posts about how lemmy.ml admins are deleting any posts critical of Russia & China. Are there any receipts for those claims? I haven't seen any actual proof, just a whole lot of people saying tankie.
Here ya go!
If you don't use KBin that's just a login page...
Lemmy.world allows creating communities, where as lemmy.ml doesn't. For me that was a big reason why I moved from lemmy.ml to lemmy.world. (I made this account after beehaw defederated lemmy.world. I would have made this my default account, but sadly there still seems to be some communication issues between instances. I have some communities on lemmy.world, but I don't see the content sync properly here.)
A reddit user made a list of alternative services for reddit. The list was .world, .ml and bee. At this point i didn't know it's the same decentralised service. I picked the first one, liked it and made an account after a few days.
Does it matter which server your account is? Asking because I am a NooB. Or nOOb? 🤔🙄
Not really - it only matters if the instance where you have your account (e.g. lemmy.world, in your case) is not federated with another instance (e.g., beehaw.org).
As long as your instances are federated, you'll be able to see everything on the other instance and vice versa.
There are weird states, such as instance A being federated to instance B but B not being federated to A. This means that users on A can see, comment, and (potentially? I think?) create posts for communities on B but no other instance (B, C, or otherwise) can see those comments/posts.
Federated.. instances? I really don't think I should be here
I saw this image the other day and thought I'd save it for confused reddit refugees hehe
Neat
I never realized Mastodon was the same kind of system
That is so much more elegant than I put it lol thank you!
...what
Lol somebody else replied above with this, but I figured you should definitely see it too:
I have an account on .world but lemm.ee is a great name and the admin who runs the instance sounds like a cool guy. Plus .world is already way overloaded so I was looking for another instance.
Cause beehaw sucks
Yep! I added wefwef to my home screen where Apollo was (still installed but moved to an honoring folder). My workflow and habits are now unchanged and I feel like I’m on reddit, only federated. 🙂
My favorite subreddit migrated to Lemmy.world so that's how it happened with me.
Beehaw isn't as well known in general. It's always the third one mentioned when discussing Lemmy or Kbin.
And Lemmy.ml has been banning people for criticizing China, so...yeah, no one outside of extremist types want to be a part of that.
Beehaw is also... very particular. From what I can tell they want to encourage and magnify the closed-off, echo-chamber part of reddit.
Yeah, when I was looking for a post-redit home I checked out beehaw.
Strike 1: no downvotes
Strike 2: application period to create an account
Strike 3: I read the beehaw mod's "philosophy" posts and I got the general idea of what they were saying, but they just sounded a little... odd. Like they were thinking things through and were going around in circles without really getting anywhere. By contrast, the tildes.net philosophy posts seemed well-thought-out and very readable.
Their application questions are also kinda weird. I was gonna sign up for beehaw and the application really turned me off.
I can only speak for myself, but as a complete newbie who wanted to create an account and figure out how lemmy works, I honestly thought lemmy.world is the main site and everything else is just smaller niche communities.
There was an ELI5 post that clarified how it all works, but that was after I created my account.
Yea I made like 4 accounts with .world being the last, because I thought I needed an account for every instance. I'm now learning I don't need to do that.
I didn't join lemmy.world, because the way I understand it now, it doesn't matter much which instance you join. Lemmy.world was already under strain when I signed up, so it seemed best to go somewhere less populous. I also made an alt on my native language instance and on the nsfw instance, because you know why.
I did the same too. I liked my current instance's affinity to technology and figured I may as well join a smaller server to avoid the strain of the Reddit exodus.
It might be completely false but i read that there were many tankies on other instances. One thing that got in the way of competitors in the past was the high number of extreme right wing people. My take is that people would rather not associate with either.
Ml sounds like short for make love to me, and world is pretty cool domain name.
Mother Lover.
I'm pretty sure Mental Outlaw helped a lot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBhDWTZDH9c
I've been sitting on the domain lyoko.cloud and now I'm thinking it could be a cool Lemmy instance domain
I went with lemmy.one, did I err?
Honestly, with how fritzy the top few instances have been due to the recent traffic, I'd argue you did the opposite of err.
The migration of a certain subreddit I followed over here led me to this instance so here I am.
Idk about other people, but I don't really know how the instances work and the lemmy.world instance name seems the least abstract. Beehaw was confusing because it's not called lemmy so idk if it's a different thing or what, and idk what .ml means or stands for. Lemmy.world just looks like it's the default lemmy instance to me as a dunce who doesn't know how lemmy works.
I wanted an instance that was popular but not #1 to avoid slowdowns. Chose lemmy.world. Now it's most popular...made an account on thelemmy.club today
I switched to this instance, because lemmy.ml was just too laggy. Also I use mastodon.world so I knew it's a good instance.
For me it was the fact I kept mistyping the url as lm instead of .ml You know, LeMmy dot LM After nth time making this mistake, I decided to switch to something easier to remember.
I joined .world because there were c/hopeposting
Neither really want more users and they've been around longer to establish a community.