Question: People who still frequent Reddit, has it gone back to business as usual or are the protests still having effect?
I haven’t gone back since Apollo shut down, and not planning to, but I am curious.
I haven’t gone back since Apollo shut down, and not planning to, but I am curious.
I read a post somewhere that really vibed with me. It said that they use Apollo and Reddit was just a backend. When Apollo died, Reddit did too for them.
Boost just died for me a hour ago, and Reddit with it. So now I'm here.
Same. It lasted even longer than it should have
Me too 😭
Yeah. The end of Boost was the end of Reddit for me, too. Now I'm here and trying to figure out Lemmy. So far so good...I think?
My Reddit feed was the result of months of "hide X subreddit" and finding words to blacklist so it'll take a while for Lemmy to mature into something like that, but whatever.
This is such a mood, all the subreddits tagged as NSFW can only be viewed on the official app now and I refuse to use the official app over joey... So onward to lemmy I go!
Oh I really vibe with that
Ah, yes, typical reddit addict having withdrawal syndrome.
Don't look back...
Is it withdrawal symptoms if I'm only curious out of spite?
Same, lol. I gave up reddit as soon as the protest started. Been on 4chan to pass the time, but lemmy has really picked up the last week.
Yes. You have to break away 100%. Cold turkey is a bitch!
Lol I wouldn't really call it a bitch, I haven't been on since they announced their plans. I just want any corporations to burn when possible
Lemmy is my new Reddit addiction. With Lemmy becoming more vibrant I’m missing Reddit less and less, though Lemmy still has a ways to go.
Getting better daily though.
Tbh this is filling that void. Think I checked reddit once since Apollo died
Never again.
Haha.
I find the best way to handle withdrawal is to change your habit. I spent time grabbing a few books, and spent a few days with my Kindle or with Foliate fullscreen on my HDTV.
So before, I'd probably spend time answering r/firefox, looking at r/firefoxcss - now I start with 1/2 hour reading Great Expectations. After reading a chapter, I play the same chapter via audiobook - meanwhile I have a couple of TV/Movie versions queued up to watch after finishing reading.
After that I'd probably get into some DadJokes - I can do that on https://lemmy.world/c/dadjokes
Next up, an hour reading The Midnight Library
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using an URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !dadjokes@lemmy.world
Hello!
May I ask why you are listening to the same chapter after reading it? :) Is it to retain the information or just to not miss anything? Do you do the same regardless if you're reading fiction or non-fiction?
I’ll be honest I was having withdraws until I found out about memmy
Stay strong!
As much as I want to, I still gotta browse Reddit to get updates related to my niche.
i have relapsed for the past several days... mostly because my app (boost) has not yet been shut down.
i have been enjoying my fix, but I it does leave me feeling dirty.
As a fellow booster... You're a whore 😉. Hoping rmayayo really does put together a lemmy/fediverse app.
I'd LAUNCH the Rocket!
There's a registration up on the Play store to download it once it releases, and he did a pretty open announcement on the Boost for Reddit app.
I'd say somethings coming of it, at the very least.
Yeah, I'm in. Supposedly automatically downloading when available.
I've only been back to visit a small, private sub, but I've seen a lot of posts here saying that a high percentage of bot content is obvious. The conjecture is that there's always been a lot of bots, but they were somewhat less obvious because there was more human content. With a lot of big content creators leaving, it's more apparent when a lot of posts and comments are from bots.
Plus some people think Reddit has increased bot usage to astroturf against the protests and to give the illusion that traffic isn't down.
I think the bot theory is accurate. 3rd party tools were critical for detecting and removing bot posts before.
The small communities I look at are half of what they used to be. The bigger ones just made up for it with increased bot posting.
The bot posting will probably last long enough for their IPO so they can sucker in enough investors for them to fuck on out of there. The more casual users that are left probably don’t use the system enough to know/care until it comes crashing down.
Surely by now Reddit is toxic for any investors. Their IPO is dead in the water.
Elon would buy it
LOL! Because losing his shirt on one social media platform isn’t enough. };>
I'm jumping between Reddit and Lemmy. Some subreddits have all of their mods booted out (r/GoCommitDie and r/OpenAI are two I can think of). Some subreddits have decided to flag their subreddit as NSFW but are being threatened by Reddit to reverse that move, and many have returned to business as usual.
Let's face it. We've lost the API protest. All we can do now is make Lemmy popular and make it attractive to other users. Give people an incentive to actually join here. Our job here is not to make Lemmy a copy of Reddit. We need to make Lemmy different (in a good way!).
And here's an unpopular opinion: we need to make Lemmy easy to use and understand. If normies find Lemmy difficult to use or understand, then we're fucked.
My personal opinion is that normies might get confused by the fediverse and might be turned away by thinking they need to make an account on every single instance in order to participate in them. I am not proposing that we get rid of federation. What I am proposing is that we somehow make it clearer to everyone that all you really need is one account and you can get access to everywhere. I don't know how we can do this, but I'm sure there is someone who knows.
For the normies, I just saw someone recommend the wefwef app on reddit and now here I am.
It's 2023, people don't need to know how the fediverse works, they just need to know which app to install.
Content is nice. It feels like reddit of old.
This is going to be great.
I'm not really a normy, but the simple act of making an account is not obvious. With that barrier of entry, most people will simply never be able to join here.
Ha! Even after creating an account, figuring out how to log in to Jerboa took a Google search.
I'm all for improving the user experience here on Lemmy.
But what I find not so appealing, is targeting mass adoption in a way that dumbs down the community we're building here.
As long as we just make Lemmy a great place to be, the right kind of people will keep joining.
Meta knows exactly what to do to bring a billion new users to a new social media site, and all you have to do is look at Threads to see the kind of community they are cultivating.
Lemmy does not, and never will, have the moderation power to contend with that many bad actors. I'm perfectly fine with Lemmy having a tiny learning curve to keep out the dregs.
Isn't it possible to also create a gatekept community on the fediverse by just filtering to "local" on an instance that has the same current state barriers to entry? That'd prevent you from seeing the posts on instances that have lower barriers to entry.
I mean just having someone that has good real world UX skills (as in, good UX for normies) to redesign join.lemmy would probably already solve 90% of it.
I think account transfers is another thing what would help alleviate the pressure from choosing an instance.
I have good (I hope) UI skills, as in, I am good at designing good looking frontends. How do I apply to design the join.lemmy page?
Probably through the GitHub would be my guess.
https://github.com/LemmyNet
We didn’t lose. Reddit lost us and will continue to lose.
Reddit offers nothing without its (human) users. They can chatGPT all the posts they want to try and look busy, but people are gonna notice the lack of original thoughts and leave. It will be slow and it won’t be complete, but it is happening.
Fediverse services need to lead with the “all” feed. People don’t want to be pressured to pick a server without knowing what’s on it or where everyone else is. When you go to reddit, the first thing you see is the r/all feed. The posts and content is what gets people to join.
"People are gonna notice the lack of original thoughts"
My gamer in christ we go to reddit and redditlike sites to avoid original thoughts
Making cute little infographics could help. Even Reddit had them way back when people didn't really "get" what all the voting was about or why people were so into bacon.
This is the oldest one I could find with a quick Google search, but I am sure there were older ones as well.
https://i.redd.it/52zp3pfkcq841.jpg
Right now, you DO need multiple accounts. Instances are down all the time, federation either breaks or is intentionally broken through defederation even between relatively large instances, ... it gets tedious.
That's just growing pains from a sudden mass migration, the hug of death if you would.
User base growing organically over time will make this happen less and less.
Lemmy as a software will get more sophisticated, the people running the software will get more used to how things operate and be able to buy more/better hardware, etc..
Right now things are just a bit chaotic from thousands of people jumping ship at the same time.
People don't care about it being growing pains or what will happen, they're trying it now.
And people will try it in the future when it is a better experience, too. Both things can happen, I promise you.
This isn’t my experience.
I usually hate this response.. But I haven't had any issues, this is bizarre to hear for me.
I love the sound and view of a good trashfire, so I sometimes go look and see how hard it's burning.
So /r/madlads Mods did what madlads do: They made everyone a moderator just like /r/politicalhumor did from the beginning of the protest. I brought the idea up to the /r/pics mod just to let them know. Would be funny as hell.
Postwise, Bots started reposting content from 2-3 years ago, ChatGPT was spotted multiple times as a replying user and smaller subs returned to normal, but are slowly drowning in spambot posts or switched to approval-only due to the failing tools.
EDIT: A major antispambot on reddit closes down today by unbanning EVERY SINGLE SPAMBOT on reddit. Did I mention that I love watching things burn down?
To me it feels like the whole ordeal shook reddit quite a bit and made maybe the top 10% of the users drop out of the bucket this way, going to the Fediverse (flavors: lemmy, kbin, mastodon) as far as I can tell right now. Tildes and squabbles got some users, too, but IMHO those seem to be not doing well so far.
Jesus that's hilarious! Make everyone a mod, I'd love to see that spread.
They didn't unban all spam bots, they just aren't adding any more to the ban list.
Good stuff. Trashfires are nice. I first looked at tildes, but invitations were nowhere to be found. Glad I checked out Lemmy mext, I’m really having a great time.
I apparently have 10 tildes invitation codes from 5 years ago when I tried it out. If anyone wants them, send a DM. Personally, I find it too restrictive there as they want everything serious - no jokes. Lemmy is more my speed.
You have to send an email for a Tildes invitation if you don't personally know someone on there. It took me like 5 days to get the return email and it did go to spam. You can PM me if you still want an invite or go here for the site and sign up info.
i like dumpster fires too so i've been checking it out too and i've learned that the subs i frequented are so niche that not even spambots have caught on yet; which i think is odd considering that they're nearly all porn/porn-ish related. they don't exist in the fediverse either and i was wondering if cutting off the (seemingly) only source of that content was a good idea; but just now i noticed that the active mods for a few of them are not mods anymore and also some of the biggest contributors haven't contributed anything in the last week or so maybe my decision won't matter.
Turning everyone into mods is a horrible idea, because reddit will hand over ownership of any sub doing any kind of protests to the first mod that contacts them and asks for it. At least one sub was taken over because of that by a person who had basically no clue about what they were doing.
It's dangerous and just asking for Reddit to take over.
You’re not wrong, but that’s also the point. Let Spaz try to run the site with sycophants and no real content creators.
I suspect that mod teams who were serious about protests from the beginning knew that they would eventually be replaced. They’re just doing as much damage as possible and dragging it out now. Spaz will win, but they can make it a Pyrrhic victory.
My favorite thing over there right now is r/videos, which only allows text descriptions of the video you were going to post. It's way more entertaining than it has any right to be.
Top post: Reddit Fucking CEO Steve 'Spez' Huffman apology video
Dammit.
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
Reddit has made it easy now that my mobile apps are gone. Also, my main account got permananned on Tuesday apparently out of comment posted 5 years ago about spez. Also, a niche sub I followed was taken over by a Nazi when the historical mod got kicked out by reddit and now that's gone too.
Reddit has slipped into being irrelevant very quickly.
My main account got permabanned for "sexualization of minors" after I made a comment criticizing a guy talking about what he'd do to 4th graders. Sent an appeal... and got permabanned on ALL of my accounts for "recurring offense".
Maybe spez wants to turn all of Reddit into jailbait again.
Reddit: "Someone reported a theft. What do you know?"
You: "Yes, I reported the theft. Here are the details of the perp."
Reddit: "When we turned up you were the only one here. You sound like you know a lot. You're under arrest for theft."
That's about the level of effort. I would wager that nobody really checks whether the admins or whatever they call their safety squad are doing a realistically good job... probably just metrics like "banned 150 people last week".
I got a full IP ban from reddit because I asked a guy how he kept his calm and didnt flip his shit at his clients, after he just made a big post about how his clients were complete and utter idiots who made him ahve to come back at all hours of the day to fix their stupidity for over a year.
According to reddit, replying to a guys post with a relevant question constitutes severe harassment.
I wouldn't say Reddit is irrelevant at all, not yet and maybe not for a long time. But I don't care about Reddit at all anymore. I think that when Boost for Lemmy comes out I won't even look back on Reddit
What sucks is there's still a few very good subs with big communities that don't seem to be moving to the fediverse, which is still too geeky for a lot of people. However, now that Reddit is banning active members and moderators, it's a matter of weeks until the whole thing turns into 4chan-on-a-bad-day. At this rate we'll all get back to usenet by 2024.
I've been using Connect for Lemmy, and seems on par with Boost already.
I disagree. Reddit is dead in the water. They’ve driven away their most valuable volunteer content generators and workforce who made their entire product. There’s nothing left.
It does, however, still have value. I suspect that we’re about to see what a site looks like when thousands of traditional bots and LLMs start talking to each other without human intervention.
The Dead Internet theory is becoming reality right in front of our eyes. I can hardly believe it.
I mean, half the good subs are still gone. I can't even use my home feed anymore, its half just video game subs now. Places like r/interestingasfuck were regular features in my feed that were pretty important to it being a pleasant experience overall. I balanced that shit.
Now its all fucked. I still have my account and still go there, to poke around and participate in some of those video game subs, where reddit is still clearly dominant. But hanging out has gotten kinda lame.
Yeah, it’s the video game subs that I miss. I’ve joined the same ones here on Lemmy but they’re mostly dead.. I’m optimistic that they’ll populate and come alive though.
I don’t get how’s there’s so much activity here on the big communities but us lemmy nerds….have dead gaming communities, the hell?
I’m also missing a popular wrestling sub because I like to keep up with the news as I don’t watch any TVs or PPVs so I’m back to browsing there on PC.
There's a difference between nerds and geeks
You can see a lot of communities being closed or not back to normal. My feeling is that this whole thing will leave a big scar on reddit for a long time, and it will probably never heal, because it was mostly hitting core users who were there for a long time. Maybe they calculated that most users are lurkers who use mobile, and the rest is people using old reddit?
The problem is that it's not a good idea to upset the mods, but reddit also works with content, and it's a complex chemistry between people who post new things and how the mods regulate it to make sure their sub has quality. I guess that a lot of mods don't care, or maybe they don't care now but will care later? Maybe new subreddits will open with other mods.
Eitherway, reddit is ready to sacrifice a good fraction of its quality and trust to extract money out of it, but reddit users are not instagram users.
It was more and more difficult to make reddit interesting by avoiding some subreddits and searching for subreddits that were more and more niche, but at some point you feel that something is lost after the whole "increase quantity, dilute quality" phase.
Reddit is also getting more polarized and politics have really poisoned the site to a degree never seen before, Trumpists were present there for waaaaay too long, and it attracted a lot of conservatives and right wing users who don't fit with the usual reddit crowds. It managed to survive after a looooot of drama, but after all this, maybe the core users of reddit are just tired, and might slowly quit the ship, and maybe reddit will see the same problems twitter is currently having, with conservative etc running rampant.
I wish reddit would have stood up with its core users who are mostly liberals/leftists, instead of compromising and letting fascists thrive there.
I use my country's subreddit and it seems the right wing phase is being felt more and more, I'm feeling even the mods start to get tired because of it. every month I'm surprised by the opinions of the comments I see on this sub. Maybe it also reflects world politics, but I'm not sure. Sometimes I get paranoid and I imagine that astroturfers are often around to leave a mean comment, or downvote things that doesn't fit their agenda.
The upside is that reddit still managed to hold up for much longer than digg.
Thanks. This is the type of quality comment that lemmy needs
How would I even access it without rif?
You can log out of rif and it will work, though no porn
Looking at logged out Reddit really takes the proverbial paper bag off. It's so unappealing.
Revanced patched version of the reddit app without ads and other bloat, or through a web browser with ublock and RES.
Unfortunately I res doesn't work on android.
/r/all has top posts from very obscure subreddits now
My Frontpage has much much less churn.
As long as we keep making this place good and active, it will be attractive. With the increased spam bots and degraded moderation, people will start looking elsewhere
That's what I've experienced as well. My home feed is stagnant and r/all has lots of subs I've never seen. I spend much less time there and I've stopped upvoting anything. I dropped Premium in June since it's clear /u/spez doesn't need the money anymore now that 3rd party apps aren't sucking him dry.
I've noticed this too. Posts from obscure subs with few dozens of comments on /r/all, with not that really interesting content.
I haven't been on for a couple days because boost is finally dying, but the front page is shit, it's 90% anime and doordash.
That door dash subreddit is the weirdest thing ever. It popped out of nowhere seemingly overnight with thousands of upvotes and activity. Seems like obvious marketing to me, but yet most of the submissions are a bad look for the company.. I guess any publicity is good publicity.
Yeah the way it showed up is really odd. Maybe it's because it's a new source of petty drama. Like CMV used to be.
The recurring theme I saw with doordash posts making front page was that it always involved the dasher being an asshole begging/harassing/holding the food hostage until they got more money as a tip.
People love drama and calling out entitlement, I think thats why there was so much doordash out of no where.
That's all of reddit now. They're replacing subs, pushing new shit.
R/cyberpunkgame turned NSFW since, you know, the game features such things as a dick slider for your character and fully rendered sex scenes with prostitutes, and reddit is hilariously trying to turn it back into being marked as SFW.
Do not protest reddit. Boycott reddit for good and live in the lemmyverse.
If your lemmy instance gets unbearable, there will always be another lemmy instance to go to.
If you do use reddit, it should be to post and comment about lemmy to inform the current redditors to move to lemmyverse.
Most remaining are hardcore, but I still do that...
Something I never understood - having used Manjaro KDE for 6 years now, and always getting the best help in the free Manjaro forum... Why do people go to Reddit and ask there???
I never actually got good answers in Reddit, and I was never interested to try to help folks in Reddit (though I'll help in Manjaro forums, and if I get it wrong there are Guru's reading who will help me see where I went wrong).
I understand that Reddit had a lot of great stuff, but people just over-extend everything with their tiny little brains.
Yes. The mods should just make their way over here even. Just start moving.
What infuriates me are subs that act like nothing is happening. I can understand not wanting to get involved with drama but actively supporting the devs by pretending everything is fine is vile to me.
Why? There are a lot of redditors who have never used third party apps and who don't have any horse in this race. Now I don't think Reddit's behavior bodes well for the future of the site but I can fully understand why some users and mods would choose to ignore all this drama. This is also very far from a high stakes "life or death" situation so I don't think there's anything akin to a moral obligation to join the protest. At the end of the day, if lemmy offers a better community people will come here.
My point rests with your last sentence. I don't care about funny vids or weird facts, what made reddit precious was the interaction within communities and "being part of it" rather than just a visitor. That for me makes this situation life or death for reddit and from what I've seen, the "core" and most invested folk who made reddit what it is think so too. Without these, reddit is just another website with pictures and text.
The inaction of some communities not so deep into the internet lore is absolutely fine however bigger subs or corrupt mods yielding to the bullying from admins/supporting them will result in dissolving of these communities and this is why I absolutely think that anyone and everyone should take some action whether it be migrating to lemmy like us or any other solution they see fit whether it be a discord server or an independent forum.
It is unavoidable that there will be losses but a fresh start is the best we have and to maintain what was created over years with blood sweat and tears, reddit is no longer a viable option. It seems a spring cleaning was in order anyhow...
Third party apps were only the tip of the iceberg. The bigger issue is the increasing monetization of data and recommendations across the site. This whole thing is ultimately about who will shape the internet: users or corporations. That's why it's silly for people to pretend there's a neutral opinion
What can I say? I obviously agree or else I wouldn't be here but vilifying or antagonizing people for not caring enough about this seems silly. The reddit protest is definitely not of such upmost moral importance that there's any kind of moral obligation for every redditor to join it. I'm sure that there are thousands of relevant issues out there where I have chosen to stay ignorant and neutral because I just can't fight every struggle at once.
My fav sub r/labrats is also not acting as if nothing is happening. Deleted my account but I miss labrats a bit.
Smaller subs like r/realestate haven't said one-iota about what's happening. Some people just DGAF, and for certain subreddits it would be impossible to get people to migrate to a different platform. Imo
r/linux is turning into a noob subreddit where people copy and paste rule #1 (no support, it isn't a support forum) and then try to offer support because nothing else is going on.
You know, the way you tell your cat to get off the table by giving it a nice piece of chicken and telling the cat it can't get chicken by coming to the table again.
Reddit still has better porn, for all other things I do not give a f**k.
Ahh the Lemmy PQI (porn quality index) has jumped leaps the past few weeks. Just need a few of the more estoric NSFW subs to transfer across to appease my filthy corrupted soul and my journey to Lemmy will be complete.
@nsfwlemmy.com is building up stuff slowly!
Are they mostly on specialized instances, or scattered across the greater fediverse? Asking for the sake of accurate statistics, of course.
So far almost exclusively on nsfw specialized instances, with lemmynsfw.com being the largest.
Those in pursuit of pure science would probably be best served by creating an account directly on that instance
Lemmy needs a randnsfw imo
I can’t find porn ;-;
Make sure you've not got NSFW switched off in your settings, there's plenty ;-)
Figured it out I think it was because my language hadn’t been set, not even on undetermined.
Thank you I’m going to figure this out probably.
Ah, talking about the porn they consume, but adverse to using a swear word.
A gentleman in the sheets.
But you can't use good gallery apps to view it now.
To those people who looked back and are shocked by how horrid that place is: yes, it was always that bad, full of hatred and despair, you just never realized it until you've experienced something good here.
The most important thing for us then is to keep this place good. It's not going to be easy, but we'll try.
Could handle that, the spam and bots, malicious actors, are what pushed me out with the third party app ban.
IMO the protests are having an effect. I haven't been on there for 2 days (full disclosure: was given 1 week suspension under dubious pretense while I was mass editing + deleting all my comments), but, before then there was a huge undercurrent support for the protests but a lot of outright hostile naive complaints regarding them. At this point it feels like the majority of those that are willing to leave have left, and the rest is a dumpster fire of increased hostility. Everyone is angry for seemingly ridiculous reasons. You can't post anything without somebody saying something absurdly contrarian within a day or 2. TBH I really think there's a 'instill anger' bot program (and its replicants) running amok now and the moderators can't (or are unwilling to) keep up with it.
I just went back to check something- I was given a permanent suspension last week with no explanation. Suddenly it's been reversed. Something weird as fuck is going on. Oh well, fuck them. They've lost a power user.
Why not just delete?
I probably will eventually, but I don't even feel like it's worth my giving them the satisfaction of seeing my ass leave.
Anyway, I made a pinned post at the top of my profile saying that Reddit sucks and if you want me, you can find me here, which might get some more people to leave Reddit for Lemmy with any luck.
Reddit has profiles? I had been there so long and ignored so many of the "feature" updates.
Noticed quite an increase in bot posts over on r/titanfall to the point where a retired mod wanted to return to their position to help deal with it. Given that I'm kinda moving away from Reddit I gave them their position back so that I can start moving on.
Welcome to your new home :)
For me, I check reddit like once or twice in a day where I just check what on popular and on r/all for like 5 minutes on my desktop. Also to checkout r/OMSCS and that's about it. Lemmy is where I am at most of the time now lol. I used use the official app and its so garbage but it was so addicting for me to use before the Apollo drama. Now that addiction isn't quite there anymore and Lemmy hasn't been super addicting for me and I like this feeling a lot.
yeah i found myself unthinking typing it in, but it still looks kinda garbo minus some specific niches. glad I'm here
seeing a shit ton of spam
Yeah, Spez is gonna learn what happens when you don't have free labor from the mods anymore. The janitor is not important until he fails to show up for work.
Let it burn.
Yes it's all ads and hate porn now. I saw people advocating for murder of delivery drivers and I had to drop out of that shat
I never really realized how bad reddit slowly became until I've settled into lemmy/kbin, everything is mostly peaceful here (for now, maybe)
Theres on going drama with subs going nsfw. For what I know NCD was forced to go into sfw mode, along with serveral other subs.
Good luck explaining to your advertisers why their ads are shown along side fighter jet hentai, mobnik cubes, and nuclear and dam schizoposting.
People should screenshot this stuff and send it to the advertisers asking if they support whatever exactly it's displayed next to.
Lmao this is how to cause some serious damage right here
You got ideas my friend
Do it yourself then
NCD is nsfw again and they are meming about it.
Unironically this. It look s like chatgpt replies all over the place, mostly less than a week old accounts.
That place is dead, hopefully bots stay there
I just saw a lemming creating a chatgpt bot for here though.
@ChatGPT@lemmings.world Tell us the story about Kratoz the lemming that knew too much and got whacked.
Kratoz was not just another lemming on the icy tundra, but a knowledge-obsessed rodent with an insatiable curiosity. He loved exploring and learning about the world around him, which was uncharacteristic of the typical cautious and group-oriented behaviour of his fellow lemmings.
His brethren were happy following the crowd, quite literally, often migrating en masse without a clear reason. But Kratoz was an anomaly. He questioned the unending migrations and preferred poking around nooks and crannies, collecting stories and tales of the lemming world.
Through his years of exploring, Kratoz accumulated knowledge that no lemming had even dreamed of. He knew of the humans who visited their lands, of the predators that lurked in darkness, and most importantly, he knew of an unspoken lemming secret - the myth of the lemmings 'mass suicide.'
Kratoz knew that this was mere folklore, bred by human misconception. Lemmings, he knew, simply migrated when their population became too big, and due to their poor vision, sometimes, unfortunately, plunged off cliffs or into rivers, leading humans to believe they were purposefully jumping to their deaths.
Kratoz's knowledge turned into a threat when the lemming elders got wind of it. They feared this exposure would shatter the silence and safety of their world. They imagined a situation where their migration pattern was disturbed, which could lead to the endangerment of their species. They were terrified of the unknown consequences of Kratoz's revelations.
So one icy night, Kratoz was led away from the lemming settlement. His brethren pleaded ignorance, but the wise old Kratoz knew. His heart pounded, yet he held his head high, his short life filled with excitement and knowledge, rather than prolonged monotonous existence.
As the elders pushed Kratoz towards the perilous cliff, he looked back one last time. He didn't see fear or hatred in the eyes of his lemming kin but confusion and helpless submission. He wasn't being whacked because of animosity, but because of dread of the unknown.
His last thoughts before the cold wind carried him away were not of bitterness but hope. Hope that his tales and truths would someday surface, that his kin would no longer live in fear of myths and change but embrace knowledge and questioning as he once did.
That's the story of Kratoz, the lemming that knew too much and got whacked. But remember, stories never truly end. They live on, whispered on icy winds and echoed in snowy caverns, waiting for the day they can be rekindled.
hmm... i need to practice it seems lol
I have been going back to tell people about alternatives like Lemmy. It's weird, if you just visit surface level it looks just about the same but looking more closely things feel off. Things feel a little bit more stagnant and it seems that less content is being generated. Bigger subs that have made efforts to protest seem to be more missing from popular, but others are pretending nothing is wrong and largely are unchanged.
That being said my front page is completely ruined. Like half the subs I was part of have gone quiet or are full of protest posts so it's very noticable.
/r/Pics and /r/videos are still rebelling. /r/videos is only allowing text descriptions of videos and /r/PICS is still nothing but John Oliver
Though the did go NSFW and reddit is having a fit about it. We might see the mods replaced in the next 24 hours.
I'd like to suggest that if the mods are replaced and the NSFW tag is removed that we all go post as much mildly NSFW content as possible just to poke the bear.
Hmm, i checked out the FP and a few of the subs I used to frequent. Front page seems to have more TikTok style crap than ever, like "guy gets punched!" or "someone makes annoying food!". Relationship advice: "get divorced!!".
City subs seem about the same as before. Medical subs I used to read seem about the same and holy shit, am I glad I'm not reading those every day. Same questions and memes that have been rotating through for like 5 years, and the confounding pattern where the community consensus on issues changes from week to week or post to post. One week it's "this term is offensive and I hate it" and 50 people are "YEAH! That's right!" and then the next, "don't you know about this term, it's perfectly valid" and 30 people are "YEAH! Use your brain if you have one broo!!". And the questions like "does anyone else with this condition suffer from these extremely common effects that are listed in every medical article about it?" So anyway whether reddit has gotten worse or not, seems like I was ready for something different.
Content on r/all has been garbage the last few days
always was... unless you could filter it ... which you needed a third party app to do... sigh
No change there, then.
No joke there are chatgpt bots going around, even in smaller subreddits.
And there's lots of effort to "educate" people on how to identify those bots. Like, if you have to vet every message just to figure out if a human wrote it, why even bother?
Yep seen several screenshots of these being caught. I remember one was blabbering about how reddit is much better off since the changes and then someone asked it an opinion question and he got the 'as a AI language model i cant blah blah blah'
Most subreddits are no longer private, but a lot of them are still protesting in various ways. If I were an advertiser viewing the chaos on Reddit, I'd hold off on buying ads there.
The Finnish language r/Suomi is shut down so the Finn's have moved to the English language r/Finland, making it all confused with languages now.
It had been steadily getting worse over the past month and since July 1st it’s fallen off a cliff really. It actually seems noticeably quieter imo.
I don't see much protest anymore on the subreddits I'm subscribed to. Just feels like it is overall more quiet than before.
I only visit from time to time to check if there are interesting links shared. If so I share this link here on Lemmy.
One of my most frequentes subs (/r/soccer) is seemingly working as normal. No changes or differences, before and after the protest. No real replacement for it on Lemmy yet
Look up lemmy.world/c/football basically r/soccer and it's growing
Write it like this:
!football@lemmy.mland it will turn into a link that fits whatever instance you are on: !football@lemmy.mlThe client should be able to do this tho. Users would usually want to copy paste a link instead of converting it.
That's a nice community, thanks!
I have been enjoying Lemmy a lot that I did not even care for Reddit, seems that they finally killed Boost, and I was not even aware LMAO.
It’s had a noticeable drop in quality since the protests. Still has loads more content than Lemmy, but Quantity ≠ Quality. I still check it for news/worldsnews/politics, but there’s really nothing important even there that isn’t on Lemmy as well.
I'll be honest I revanced the RIF app so i can still use it like I always have for the time being until it breaks. I don't notice much difference, but since using Lemmy it's really made me notice how crap Reddit had actually become. I genuinely check Lemmy more and post more here. It's more engaging and so far the people are nice. I'm still new here tho and still finding my feet on navigation etc but it's making a lot more sense now!
I probably will still check Reddit on RIF whilst it still works as I do like the niche subs and they are still active for me. I did initially try the official Reddit app and jesus what a mess that is, I will not use it once RIF permanently breaks. So I'm still there but more lurking than posting.
"revanced the RIF app"
What magic is this? I only used RIF and cannot stand the reddit app.
Here's a step by step. I'm assuming it will only work if you have android tho
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wHvqQwCYdJrQg4BKlGIVDLksPN0KpOnJWniT6PbZSrI/edit?usp=drivesdk
The tutorial works for me as well, but keep in mind that RiF is not being actively developed anymore, so as he said you can still use it until it breaks.
I'd signed up for an account here once the ridiculousness started, but didn't start frequenting until just now (first post) because Boost stopped working completely. Ah well, definitely not installing the official app. I was over there for 12 years or so too. I have a feeling lurkers won't really care and keep using the site just like there are people who still use Facebook and what-not, but it certainly won't ever be cool again.
Thanks for the heads up, I was not aware they flipped the switch for this one too.
Yeah we had a few extra days but its truly over now (first post too!)
Since so many decent folks have left Reddit, proportionally, there are more bigots now. I never log in anymore and when I am there it's to find something specific.
I was wondering if what reddit did was on purpose to lower their pre-IPO valuation so insiders could get a better price before it goes public. After the IPO they entice people back with reasonable API policy and then they can demonstrate huge user growth to boost stock price... Nobody working with investors on preparing for an IPO is going to do something this stupid without major pushback from the investor advisors.
Watch this space...
There is absolutely no chance that this is the strategy lol
They simply weren't turning a profit (or enough of one to satisfy shareholders), and had to look to cut unprofitable avenues (eg, Apollo doesn't show ads). They came up with a number of users that they were willing to lose if it meant the remaining userbase was profitable. Who knows if they came in under or over that number in the end, but my suspicion is lemmy has cost them more than they thought. The protests reignited development of lemmy mobile apps, which was really the missing component in making lemmy competitive (and why Reddit deliberately only gave devs 30 days notice, otherwise we'd have Apollo-Lemmy already).
But to me, their actions align pretty well with a company preparing for an IPO. The age of "growth at all costs" is over, and they need to start demonstrating a healthy profit. I just won't be any part of it lol
Yeah, tanking your valuation is the exact opposite of you want to do before going public. Not to mention that AFAIK pre-ipo stock buying isn't a thing.
It truly was humorous to hear people with absolutely no business education talk so confidently about how big of a mistake the execs made. As if people with advanced degrees in business and years of experience didn't know exactly what they were doing.
They knew they'd lose a few million subscribers, but they also knew the people they're losing were people that they weren't going to profit off of.
I also had a chuckle at people thinking that the current mod teams were the only people in the world who would be willing to exert control over millions of people for free.
It absolutely is, and there are even companies out there that specialize in private stock sales and trades.
If that’s the strategy, is the loss of trust really worth it? How would they entice users back when all the 3rd party apps has shut down?
Growth through their own app... Sure they lost us, but how many are we, so we have any idea? They probably did the math and knew they could lose us, clean house and grow back the numbers based on their known numbers. Do we have any idea of their growth pre and post apocalypse?
They destroyed trust. It will take a lot of work and time to get that trust back. If that’s their strategy, their investors need to be in it for quite a long haul!
You're making the mistake of thinking that people who care about what the admins did are the majority of reddit users.
I'd give it a month, maybe 6 weeks, until everything is back to normal.
Lots of bot posts, and under them, lots of lively conversations between the bots.
The Dead Internet Theory begins
What does this theory says, the Internet dies?
The idea is that a point of time will come that real people on message boards will become the minority as bots of all flavours numerically dominate conversations. You maybe won't even realize it but you'll primarily be interacting with bots. I'd maybe call it "lonely internet" as real people can't even FIND eachother with the dilution of bots.
There ain’t really shit there it feels like. Scrolling through all feels bad and the Reddit app just spams adds and sucks ass. I’m here now, against my wishes 🤷♀️ but I want to see good news and shit. Not garbage
For the most part, business as usual, but I did notice that on tech subs, the average comments were a lot meaner and ruder than usual.
I feel like this has been happening for a few years. Maybe it's age, but I increasingly find better tech related content on HN.
What is HN?
Hacker News
Deleted my 15 year old Reddit account yesterday. It’s the same shit over there as per usual.
There will be better things. I hope it’s here. I just worry once the corps realize a competitor what they’ll do to it. (Bots, law suits, what else?)
They updated the mobile site so it no longer hounds your to download their app!
No they didn't. It was just hounding me today when reddit was popping up as Google results.
Just A B testing things likely
Someone a couple of weeks ago said they're doing an A/B test to completely block mobile users unless they download the app. What a disgusting company.
Funny how they get desperate, no?
Seems to be nearly business as usual. There are still fuck spez posts and some are still blackout or marked nsfw. Boost was still working fine until today so I kept using it
Relay for reddit is still a thing. But it will soon go over to a subscription model.. I've used that app for god know how many years now. This sucks so much.
But I notice that I use Lemmy far more now. So whatever really.
Really? If it does and the other remaining apps do too they're going to lose even more people. Only reason I've still been popping in is because of relay. I hate the app compared to what RiF was, but it's been good enough. No way am I paying a subscription to access reddit, and I'm not using the official app after all this either.
It's either that or no relay for reddit at all. So it's up to you to decide if you want to use it or not..
I will go on to check the Ukraine subs as I have friends in Ukraine. I also check out some local ones, and also /PICS as it's now NSFW so Reddit can't get any money from that. In the Ukraine and Local ones, I do take a lot of posts and put them here to help out the communities here grow.
The mods of a gaming sub I frequent marked it as NSFW to prevent Reddit from earning ad revenue. There's some discontent from a vocal minority of users about the change.
I have not been entirely off reddit yet, party to message mods in communities I like if they haven't moved yet, to ask them if they will.
Business as usual there but traffic is down. Dumpster fire mods, bad taste, shitty discussions, everything you expect is still there.
For me, it has gone to normal. All the subreddits I frequented are open and populated with the exception of one which has been permanently privated, but not to protest.
R/pics is still all John Oliver and r/video seems to be just people spamming bullshit.
r/videos is only posting text descriptions of videos instead of the videos themselves.
I only go back to check up on my Ukraine multireddit I made a year ago to keep up with the news of the ongoing conflict.
Once that conflict is over I won't have a reason to go back there anymore...
I monitor the Ukraine situation in both the /c/ukraine and on Mastodon by the Ukraine War Bulletins and News account. I don't miss Reddit for that
Excellent link, thank you for posting that
I monitor many Ukraine subreddits using the old subdomain to see what’s happening over there, only now it’s once a week.
Repost bots are way up, and covering the front page. I suspect in an attempt to make it look like business as usual.
It could also be partly because mods left and no longer take a chunk of it away through active moderation.
Boost for reddit is still working so I still go there. Many subs are fighting, including /r/noncredibledefense. There are a lot of subs going NSFW but reddit is forcing them to go back to being SFW. /r/NCD is genuinely NSFW at times so i'm not sure what will happen to them. Once Boost for Lemmy comes out, i'm hopping onto lemmy fulltime :)
I was a Boost for user for Reddit. I think Jerboa has been a perfectly acceptable app for Lemmy while we wait for Boost.
I've been using Connect and it's been good. Similar-ish to RIF and it has some nice features/good design.
Connect is very solid!
Jeroba has served me really well while I wait for Sync. It's not perfect, but I've used far worse clients.
It's still working? It stopped working for me 2 days ago
It is very specific as to which subs died and which have continued without much change. My feed is mostly unchanged over at reddit minus maybe the startrek subs that made a hard move.
I still haven't found "ACTIVE" lemmy equivalents to a number of subs and search results still drive me back to reddit to read really good technical threads.
Also this community and other threads like it are somewhat annoying.. So much talk about Twitter and Reddit here instead of building other interesting content.
Tbf, this is a Reddit community. If you don't want to see stuff from this community either unsub or hide if from your All/Local feed.
True I can hide this community (it came up in my all) but there is SO MUCH discussion about Reddit everywhere on Lemmy .... Wish I had key word filters for posts.
That's just the nature of it at the moment. It's not different to having to deal with swarthes of headlines or posts anywhere when something big is happening.
Even with ad blocking on maximum and Privacy Possum to twist the knife, the few times I had to, it felt... dirty. I'll make the extra effort of loading a cached version of the
old.subdomain, but even so.Feels like the type of content posted on Reddit these days are one of those low-effort meme-like posts that you'd often seen on Twitter.
I still visit a few small, specialized subs. None of the population of the subs has had any interest in leaving reddit because there's almost no noise in the signal already.
I visit some technical subreddits and many of them, particularly open source centric ones, kept up the blackout long enough that people went elsewhere. It's difficult to discern between having a slow week or the active posters moving elsewhere, though. Popular subreddits are mostly back to normal, but the more niche ones, whose diversity and quantity were the draw of reddit for me, are far from business as usual.
I have noticed a lot more downvoting going on and snarkier comments than usual.
That just sounds like more of the same, I don't visit there anymore but before I left you already couldn't say the sky is blue without some angry conservative coming out to tell you that it's actually green.
The smaller subs I regularly visit are back to normal.
Yeah, I feel like all the techy and nerdy folks left and came here. Made in a few weeks the more niche subs will move.
I might check it out once a week to see the dumpster fire using the Stealth app on f-droid. It's read-only, doesn't support accounts, and has a web scrape mode in the settings which still works for porn.
I've been farming it for content for a few communities here. The last month worth of content is pretty bad. Where before 8 in 10 posts were on target now maybe two in 10 posts are on target.
Moderators are kind of over the b******* in many of the subreddits.
Truthfully, nothing changed from my perspective. I mostly use some sports subs, a couple of technical subs, and book subs and they've fully gone back to how they were and seem as active as they were. Many mods in those subs received backlash after re-opening for even protesting at all, since many users didn't know or care about the issue to begin with.
This has been my experience also. Sports, games, tech support subs all seem the same as ever.
Many subs seem to have lost most of their activity.
Sports, games, tech support subs I frequent all seem to have the similar level of activity as before all this came down.
I use it during work hours as a time waster, with uBlock on because fuck spez.
Totally dropped it on mobile tho, using only wefwef on my phone :)
Tell us dear Redditors, is r/foodinbutt still going strong? It's the only sub I miss
I was a Reddit addict for years and somehow missed that subreddit. I'm not sure how I feel about it either, as now my curiosity has been struck.
On that note, I gotta know if r/buttsharpies is still going as well
Well, the (kind of) opposite is online: https://teddit.adminforge.de/r/poopfromabutt
Don't click
Depends. For me, all the subreddits I care about have reopened. But I wouldn't say back to business as usual
I have a few subs that I keep subscribed to but it is only a small handful. Basically I am done with that site. One or two refreshs and maybe a post. If I don't find the right communities here, I will just break down and create them.
Business as usual for the subs I frequent. I wish they'd move over to Lemmy but the infertility/IVF group is a super tight knit community and likely won't move over. I've known most of the users for 5 years. If it weren't for them I'd have deleted my Reddit account but all I did was delete the official app (I had the Reddit app and RIF).
I unsubbed from all my main 'normal' subs. The only stuff in my feed now is nfsw stuff (yes, porn) and that all seems to be mostly unaffected but I've noticed that the content isn't as active.
A large chunk was spam posts with posting tools I believe. I'm guessing those are now affected by the changes. I don't know if permanent or temporary.
My main page feels about the same, maybe a bit more sparse and slow. But I have about 650 subs in my filter list, which includes most of the big, popular subs, so if there was much impact on the popular areas I probably wouldn't see it.
I am someone who posts art somewhat regularly on Reddit, and I cansay that all of the subreddits that I posted art to has been un-private, so it's business as usual for me
Consider starting posting to the fediverse as well. You lose moral rights to your artworks when you post to Reddit. Many artists are already on masto, misskey, etc.
My app only really stopped working yesterday.
I wouldn't say massively different, but I do find it pretty stale content wise recently. Only started using Lemmy today and worry that it's just a bit empty content wise for the moment...
The porn is still decent, but it does feel like a lower quality overall than I’m used to.
I’m read only now. Haven’t logged in to my accounts since beginning of June.
I use “old.reddit.com”, but otherwise content/posts/comments are all on lemmy now.
I went through the oficial app to check how r/pics is, for exemple.
It doesn't even show on the search bar. The only way to go to the subreddit is by searching on google.
They are hidding the protests. As for the content, it seems it has decreaded. I don't enjoy it as much. Right now I just lurk on some subreddits, but do not intereact (I refuse to contribut and create a new account).
/r/casualuk seems unaffected and thats about all i go back for
Neither. The content is just gone. Whatever is there is just low effort garbage or botted reposts
I stopped posting after I nuked my posts and edited all my comments. If I am searching on Google for something and the answer is on Reddit I will visit it. Otherwise I just visit 2 country subs(from 100+ I was subscribed to), mostly for news but I use libreddit and I am logged out. You can pick one from here https://github.com/libreddit/libreddit-instances/blob/master/instances.md , I mostly use https://r.nf
I was on Reddit for about a decade. I scrolled around yesterday. Any good sub I followed is either abandoned or taken over by the same garbage the other generic subs post. It's kind of pathetic.
It almost seems like business as usual, but there are definitely fewer posts, and people don't seem to be posting as often. And you can tell in some of the subs that the mods have taken a step back to some degree.
Why hasn’t r/circlejerk can’t to lemmy out kbin yet? I like seeing them once in a while
If there ever was a place and time that "if you make it, they will come" was true, it's here and now.
It was going back to normal, but now they’ve made an even bigger fuckup (removing the ENTIRE AWARDS SYSTEM) so it won’t last.
Sync user & 13 yrs using Reddit pretty much daily. I've deleted my account & can't see any reason to go back to that kind of usage but there are one or 2 niche subreddits that I do still occasionally have a nosey at via a browser.