Tommy Tuberville Says US Wouldn’t Be Able to Take on China Because of ‘Wokeness’: ‘We’ve Got People Doing Poems on Aircraft Carriers’

What's wrong with writing poetry on an aircraft carrier? I can't speak to being on an aircraft carrier, but on a submarine you are not in war mode 24/7; there's time to do ordinary things. (usually).

Let me guess: Tommy here hasn't ever served in the military, right? All he knows about it is from movies?

I guess he doesn’t like the national anthem then, which is a poem written during war

Reminds me of the quote by Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools."

Alan Turing, a mathematician and gay man, is right up there with Oppenheimer, Churchill, Macarthur, and Stalin in level of importance towards the allied victory in WW2.

I'm a veteran. A lot of really good troops in technical fields tended to not serve all that long due to better quality of life outside of the military. An ace technical troop is worth their weight in gold.

Various types of mechanics and technicians, logisticians, network admins, equipment operators, pilots, various engineers, and other technical troops are the real power of the US military. Most of those are more technical than physical.

It isn't brawn that keeps around 100 USN ships deployed around the world at any given time. It isn't brawn that gives the USAF a 48 hour turn around time for operating anywhere in the world. It isn't brawn that keeps large ground forces supplied at bases all around the world. It is education, brains, and training.

Didn't Francis Scott Key write the Star Spangled Banner on a military ship during wartime?

right now, we are so woke in the military we’re losing recruits right and left

Tuberville is blocking military promotions. If officers are not regularly promoted, they are discharged from the military. Tuberville is contributing to the discharge of US military persons and blaming it on "wokeness".

We’ve got people doing poems on aircraft carriers over the loudspeaker.

Tuberville portrays this as a problem contributing to "wokeness". As evidenced by this thread, there is a long storied tradition of war poetry. Including famous military persons.

After Ingraham asked, “Could we confidently take on China?” Tuberville replied, “Oh no. Oh no. No, and we’re running Russia into China."

This is false, China is warming to Ukraine. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-06/france-sees-china-easing-stance-on-ukraine-before-g-20-summit#xj4y7vzkg

"They’re combining up and now BRICS is very, very concerning to me because they’re controlling all the petroleum in the world.”

Blatantly false. https://investingnews.com/daily/resource-investing/energy-investing/oil-and-gas-investing/top-oil-producing-countries/

Tuberville is either lying or misinformed. Debunking these comments took some minor work and taught me how effective it is to spew bullshit.

Yeah cause a Warrior Poet is something that nobody has ever aspired to, or claimed is the peak of masculinity.

I'm willing to bet he has zero evidence of anything he's said. He probably cruises a CCP run website for his info.

Tommy Tuberville had never served in the millitary.

Alabama Sen. Tommy Tuberville is waging an unprecedented campaign to try to change Pentagon abortion policy by holding up hundreds of military nominations and promotions, forcing less experienced leaders into top jobs and raising concerns at the Pentagon about military readiness.

A piece of shit through and through. Another day another member of the GOP weaponizing congress by holding random unrelated shit hostage to get their ways. This shit to fuck with womans right to healthcare out of all things.

The fuck does this dude think soldiers did in the Civil War and World War I?

They had nothing but time and laudanum. You do the fucking math.

Caesar, Alexander and Tzu wrote poetry, you absolute troglodyte, and you think you're more man than them? GTFO here...

"doing poems"? Who does a poem? Don't you write a poem?

I love the irony of the man responsible for holding up officer promotions and DIRECTLY AN UNEQUIVOCALLY DAMAGING MILITARY READINESS FOR A CONFLICT OR EMERGENCY is criticizing service members who do more good for this country on a bathroom break than this shitheel will ever do in his entire life.

And even more so the irony that the Right's 'Anti-Woke' culture is just a woke culture of it's own on the other axis, but rather than standing for anything it just exist to oppose and stagnate. The sooner all these people retire and go back under what ever rock they came out from under, the sooner things start to improve across the board for the US.

Patton was a poet

meanwhile british soldiers during WW2:

GOP: “Poems = Gay / intellectual and thus Evil because I only know the masculine arts of Sportsball and Machinery.”

Ernest Hemingway would out drink, out spit, poetry slam this guy to death with his bare hands.

Thank Alabama for electing this tool

This dippy mf probably thinks we lost WW2 because the planes had art on them

The stupidity is astounding with this guy.

Hmmm I wonder which is a greater threat to military readiness, holding up ALL the military promotions that need senate approval or poems on aircraft carriers?

Thank God for Alabama. Now people can't look at my state (FL) like we've got all the idiots. We have a surplus, to be sure, but 'Bama has some stellar examples of their own.

Right, it's the poetry degrading our military readiness, not some jackass former ponzi schemer's childish "I'm going to hold my breath until you give me what I want" tantrum that's interfering with promotions of qualified personnel in significant roles.

does this clown think poems are brand new? https://worldwar2.org.uk/poems

Through the travail of the ages,
Midst the pomp and toil of war,
I have fought and strove and perished
Countless times upon this star.

In the form of many people
In all panoplies of time
Have I seen the luring vision
Of the Victory Maid, sublime.

I have battled for fresh mammoth,
I have warred for pastures new,
I have listened to the whispers
When the race trek instinct grew.

I have known the call to battle
In each changeless changing shape
From the high souled voice of conscience
To the beastly lust for rape.

I have sinned and I have suffered,
Played the hero and the knave;
Fought for belly, shame, or country,
And for each have found a grave.

I cannot name my battles
For the visions are not clear,
Yet, I see the twisted faces
And I feel the rending spear.

Perhaps I stabbed our Savior
In His sacred helpless side.
Yet, I’ve called His name in blessing
When in after times I died.

In the dimness of the shadows
Where we hairy heathens warred,
I can taste in thought the lifeblood;
We used teeth before the sword.

While in later clearer vision
I can sense the coppery sweat,
Feel the pikes grow wet and slippery
When our Phalanx, Cyrus met.

Hear the rattle of the harness
Where the Persian darts bounced clear,
See their chariots wheel in panic
From the Hoplite’s leveled spear.

See the goal grow monthly longer,
Reaching for the walls of Tyre.
Hear the crash of tons of granite,
Smell the quenchless eastern fire.

Still more clearly as a Roman,
Can I see the Legion close,
As our third rank moved in forward
And the short sword found our foes.

Once again I feel the anguish
Of that blistering treeless plain
When the Parthian showered death bolts,
And our discipline was in vain.

I remember all the suffering
Of those arrows in my neck.
Yet, I stabbed a grinning savage
As I died upon my back.

Once again I smell the heat sparks
When my Flemish plate gave way
And the lance ripped through my entrails
As on Crecy’s field I lay.

In the windless, blinding stillness
Of the glittering tropic sea
I can see the bubbles rising
Where we set the captives free.

Midst the spume of half a tempest
I have heard the bulwarks go
When the crashing, point blank round shot
Sent destruction to our foe.

I have fought with gun and cutlass
On the red and slippery deck
With all Hell aflame within me
And a rope around my neck.

And still later as a General
Have I galloped with Murat
When we laughed at death and numbers
Trusting in the Emperor’s Star.

Till at last our star faded,
And we shouted to our doom
Where the sunken road of Ohein
Closed us in its quivering gloom.

So but now with Tanks a’clatter
Have I waddled on the foe
Belching death at twenty paces,
By the star shell’s ghastly glow.

So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

And I see not in my blindness
What the objects were I wrought,
But as God rules o’er our bickerings
It was through His will I fought.

So forever in the future,
Shall I battle as of yore,
Dying to be born a fighter,
But to die again, once more.

    - General George S Patton

LOL. It's cute this guy thinks modern warfare is like tribal war with heroes squaring off mano a mano with each other. The US military is terrifying because of its logistics and intelligence apparatus, not its individual soldiers. It is the only country that can send a Burger King field catering unit 1000 miles behind enemy lines. The Russians use scoobydoo vans and dump trucks. The CCP talk big but their """"""""stealth fighter"""" is a stolen SU-30 reskinned with salvaged F-117 skin shot down in Serbia that has a RCS of the old F-18. Its first aircraft carrier was scammed from the Russians too. China is the ultimate cargo cult wrt tech. They copy the form, hoping to eventually understand the mechanisms.

Is Republicans against writing now?

Sorry warrior poets.

We've got politicians with dumbass names like Tommy Tuberville. Start with the actual problem, Tom.

We've got saboteurs preventing military promotions...

Damn straight i created poems on my aircraft carrier.

Tommy Tuberville is a complete idiot

This guy doesn't know what the term woke even means. It's a catch all for anything he disagrees with.

Those that I fight I do not hate, those that I guard I do not love.

Should have audited a freshman Lit class.

Look how the woke free Russian military is doing against a smaller, imperfect, more diverse one and ask yourself if that's really true.

"You seem like the kind of guy who would write poetry on an aircraft carrier" is my new go-to insult.

Imagine being a politician and going out and saying anything other than “our military is the greatest in the world.” Political discourse on the right is completely off the rails.

Doing poems is dangerous. All it takes is one line to get you hooked.

there was an amazing trump speech where he said the military was paying people $500k to "teach the military how to be woke"

We wouldn't take China and China wouldn't take us because of highly interdependent economies and nukes. It would be suicide for both of us.

How was the star spangled banner written?

Doesn't West Point have creative writing and English classes like most universities?

Like how a dude penned "In Flanders' Fields" in WW1, and Canada lost every war since. /s

Diverse teams are more effective and deliver better results. A group of people with different backgrounds and experiences will come up with different solutions to a problem than a heterogeneous group. This is a well researched topic. It is why corporate America and the military are pushing for more DE&I.

We are all just feeding the rage machine right now. An entire class of people who just say snarky know-it-all things with no skillset making bank out of their ability to troll.

… says the guy that belongs to a party that fears the freedom of love, and…. books.

The world has not ever known a cowardice of the level that conservatism has currently reached.

Tommy tubberville, Worst. Superhero. Ever. He will come up with stupid fantasies about how everyone will kill you unless you give your money to the rich.

What's wrong with being poetic about your job? One would think it can possibly give you an edge of the true samurai kind?.. Something rather good for a military?

Oh when I came back fronm Luang Prabang,

I didn't have a thing where my balls used to hang,

But I got a wooden medal and a fine harangue,

Now I'm fuckin' hero.

Mourn your dead, land of the free,

If you wanna be a hero follow me,

Mourn your dead, land of the free,

If you wanna be a hero follow me.

Toxic masculinity.

What if I presented my poem as a football field prayer?

They want to take on China while running away from supporting Ukraine against Russia. The cognitive dissonance is unreal.

I hear the train a comin'

"The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards, and its fighting done by fools" --Thucydides Sir William Francis Butler

Tommy should be happy they're writing poetry on aircraft carriers.

Tommy Tuberville is the kind of cunt that would imply that strong people can't feel. Give me the poetic military members that will contemplate their actions, please.

Confirmed: Chinese people have only written 20 poems on their one super carrier.

We might as well give up.

Let's be clear. He doesn't know what he's talking about. A shame since he's a US Senator and could well find out.

Some of the most recognizable poetry comes from, or is inspired by, warzones

Oh tommy yamvillage, you're such a stupid Republican.

He makes a very good point!