[Mega thread] - Biden ends bid for presidency

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Any moment now, the 'don't vote for Biden' group will be in here telling us not to vote for Harris. And if it isn't Harris, they'll tell us not to vote for whoever it is.

Anything but stop the dictator and his plan to commit genocide against Latinos and queer people.

Even if Trump wasn't going to do awful things, I can't stand his stupid face or his stupid voice or his stupid stupidity. That's enough to vote for someone who'll beat him.

Get out of my head. I only watch late night talk shows on Youtube now just so I can skip past any Trump video. I hate that guy so much it makes my jaw hurt whenever I see his image.

Edit: I wish I could vote against him.

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No. It absolutely isn't. I was too young to vote in the 2000 election, but Gore had the same stupid face, long drawn out speech paterns, and general unlikability.

However, his policies, and his message were good. I would have voted for him despite his stupid face, because of him being the better candidate.

I FULLY understand people hating trump......but I underatand the hate because trump is a piece of shit. I get why trump is hated for his bad policies. I get why people hate having a criminal in the white house.

But to say that if a candidate were good for the position, but you hate their face and voice, I wouldn't understand that.

Yeah but Gore did win that election. It was stolen from him. Just like Bernie won the DNC nomination and it was stolen from him. Fuck the DNC. But fuck the RNC harder.

This is the kind of comment that makes me angry, while I agree with all of it. It's a weird feeling to be yelling "YEAH I AGREE WITH THAT!!! RAAAAHHH!!!!!"

Yeah but Gore did win that election. It was stolen from him.

It was stolen from us.

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I didn't want to believe it but they're already in the comments. We need to be vocal. Kamala is a great candidate.

'Beating the Republican Fascist agenda' is a great candidate. I don't really care how that is spelled on the ballot.

I'll vote for virtually anyone the Democrats nominate to stop the genocidal dictator, but my first choice, of course, will always be-

Alright, fuck it. I'LL run. I'm 40, nobody knows me so they don't hate me, I think Hitler was bad, and I'll let you guys smoke weed and keep your pronouns.

And for the republicans in the room, I'm not going to send anyone to take your guns. That sounds like a bad idea, that we already saw play out in Waco TX. Nobody wants that.

And for all the cats registered as undecided parties......meow meow meow meow meow. Meow meow MEOW MEOW MEOW!!!! HISSS HISSSSS HISSSSSS clickclickclickclickclickclick......purrrr purrrr purrrr purrrrr purrrrrr.

And to all the mentally crazy voters, HEYMYNAMESBOBANDIMHERETOMAKEEVERYBODYSAFEFROMTHELIZARDPEOPLEFROMEATINGOURBRAINSANDTHEGOVERNMENTPOTBELLIEDPIGSBACONVIVALEREVOLUTION!!!!!

And to the dyslexic voters, Helol hwo aer yuo?

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That's my main deciding point, and why I'm happy Biden stepped down. I didn't think he'd win the Rust Belt. Harris might.

My main vote is "Not Trump's Fascism."

I will absolutely vote whoever is opposite of trump on the ticket. But a black woman winning the rust belt? That would be wild. I'm all for it, mind you, but that would be some crazy shit.

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Of course they are. They started when it was just rumored that Biden would drop out.

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Most of the biden haters i know on the left are upset about his support for israel. Harris has been much more critical of the genocide. We'll just have to see.

I didnt want to vote for biden, but was still going to vote blue no matter who. Im glad i dont have to vote for genocide anymore.

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Until Harris fucks up terribly in public and jeopardizes her campaign, I won't be advocating for her replacement. I never said "don't vote Biden." I said "run somebody better." Keeping Trump out of office is more important to me than living in this country and I love where I live. I'm hopeful that Harris can win the trust of the people and prevent my having to relocate (and a bunch of other bad shit).

I may be a weirdo, but I was on the "I'd consider not voting for Biden." but I'm currently more interested in Harris. Nowhere near as bad of a track record as Biden had. From being racist, to supporting rapists getting into the Supreme Court, to backing massive removal of constitutional rights.

Harris' record isn't perfect, and while I'm in California, I don't recall any bills she pushed/voted for as Senator that was anything as bad as the USA PATRIOT Act. I don't like her record as our AG at all, but Senator is a different story.

If she picks a good VP pick, I'd be down. I'm wanting maybe Newsom, but that's just he biggest Democrat I know, as he's my Governor.

Edit: I don't know how to make it clear: I live in California. If I voted for a ham sandwich for oresident it would have the same impact as voting for Biden. My state's EC is clear and chosen, and popular vote doesn't decide the president otherwise we'd never have Trump. I was considering going Greens, but I'm looking forward to Harris. Get mad at undecideds in Swing States and Trump supporters, not a registered Democrat in California.

As a non American I just can't comprehend how any of you even have to think about this.

On one hand, an old man, who, despite his age and stumbling over his words, has ran the country relatively successfully for the last four years.

On the other hand, another old man that was a global embarrassment, cosied up to Putin and Kim, spent most of his time golfing and shitting his pants, stole classified documents and likely sold state secrets, he is a sexual abuser, an actual criminal, clearly has corrupt justices on his side with crazy plans, chummy with epstein and took multiple trips to pedo Island, promoted racism at every opportunity, many of the people connected to him for his first term were imprisoned, refused to accept your democratic process, contributed in instigating a fucking coup attempt, and that's likely not even the half of it...

Like, how the fuck can ANY of you look at that and say "Yeah but Biden stumbles over his words so I'll just throw my vote away/vote for trump..."

I feel like I'm going insane just watching this shit unfold. It is all so bizarre.

Don't worry, those of us Americans who don't have their heads up their asses are just as baffled as you are and 3 times as embarrassed that Trump is even an option again.

I am in a fucking loop of laughter and tears because I don't even know what to do anymore.

As an American I'm newly flabbergasted by this every damn day

Yes. It's insane. I will vote for whoever is most likely to beat Trump. It's embarrassing that he is RNC's pick for candidate. He demonstrated his inability to do the job and his fans still want him because he hurts the "right people". Horrifying.

It's not even "he hurts the 'right people'" anymore, because Trump's policies hurt everyone. It's"he hurts the 'right people'" more than he hurts me. I will give myself a cold to give you a fever.

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you were considering not voting for Biden when Trump was the alternative?

A very common position among the lemmy crowd, unfortunately. I really don't expect much to change either, just swap Harris for Biden in the hit pieces.

I've disengaged from political news and discussion over the last few years for my mental health, and this confirms that was the right move. shit is driving me crazy.

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I'm really hoping if Harris still has to be on the ticket that she'll stay VP. It would be nice to have a decent prez option.

But I'll be voting anti trump either way.

It would be nice to have a decent prez option.

It would also be nice not to live on a burning planet controlled by decrepit rich psychopaths but I don't think either of us will be getting what we want.

I'll still vote for whatever the democrats decide to run, of course, since minimizing or maximizing fascists' access to government is the only question on the ballot this election.

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Nah, I said I would support her if that’s what it came down to.

She needs a good VP though with her record.

That debate and the putin -Zelensky trump-Harris mixups so short together.

Pull in Buttigieg and you have a white male as a backup to calm people down and maybe pull in the gay vote.

I understand how the last sentence could be seen the wrong way, but it’s the cynical reality.

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Harris isn't ideal, but she's an improvement. She's less on board with genocide than Bidenyahu, and she can fog a mirror.

Vote for Harris. Don't make the party regret listening.

Hi, I think you've seen me in enough places saying not to vote for Biden.

Go vote for Harris.

Absolutely they will. When the gEnOciDe stopped working/got boring, they switched to- oLd!

Give it a day, they’ll have their reasons not to vote for her too.

Someone already replied to me saying that unless the Democrats produce a "non genocide-loving candidate," don't vote for them.

conveniently making room for the one candidate who probably does love a genocide

And not just genocide overseas. Trump has made his position on immigrants and queer people very clear. And if anyone thinks 'immigrants' won't include brown people that are native-born citizens who don't happen to have the right ID on them, you're wrong.

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Of course they did. Because MAGA won’t be happy until there are no democratic voters.

No democracy either. They want an authoritarian dictatorship because they don't believe they'll be the ones hurt by it.

Bots bots and more bots. I assume all of that garbage is coming from a room full of shoulder to shoulder ruskies

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The reason we haven't seen it happen yet is that they weren't prepared for this. They need to make some memes and talking points, make sure everyone is on the same page. Give it a day or so, and we'll start seeing a strangely concerted effort against Harris.

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An aside, I hate that this was posted to twitter before it was posted to Biden's own website or the White House's website first.

This is why the internet sucks now. Nobody maintains their own websites anymore. These days everybody just posts everything on the same handful of centralized megacorp websites. Social media killed the golden age of the web.

There are some exceptions that still live by the POSSE*-principle, but they're rare.

*Post to Own Site, Syndicate/Share Everywhere

E-mail, too. You could have all the latest security features to confirm you're legitimate, but based on the simple fact that your message volume is low (ironically enough), messages you send with your server will often get filed under junk by default.

Well Trump posts stuff to his own website :P

But yeah, I agree. And there's no excuse for it really. Sure a regular person only posting to a single social media makes sense, but anyone that has staff should be able post to their own website, issue a press release, post on Twitter, Mastodon, Facebook, Blue Sky, Reddit, etc. I mean once you have the statement finalized it's just copy & paste to get it on all platforms. It seems bizarre that they don't do this.

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My first reaction was that he was hacked. It wasn't on official letterhead, there was no other announcement, and the president didn't immediately make another tweet/x/whatever.

I don't think I'm alone. Typically when something big like this happens, I get 5-10 news alerts within minutes of each other from various sources. The alerts were slow to roll in today.

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WHAT AM I GOING TO DO WITH ALL MY BIDEN HATS, FLAGS, T-SHIRTS, AND STICKERS?!

/Just kidding - not in a cult 😅

not in a cult

Sure? You are on Lemmy after all.

/joking. Or am I? 🤔 VSauce music plays

Yep, dropped Digg for Reddit. Dropped Reddit for Lemmy. Will drop Lemmy for something else if I end up not liking it. 😎

You now have enough data points to estimate how long until Lemmy turns to shit and you need to migrate again!

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It's finally over. Now get in someone who can beat Trump.

Who exactly?

Senator Mark Kelly, he can do this

He flipped AZ to blue

He is an astronaut, all American, former servicemen

He can get red votes and blue alike

Isn't senator Kelly the one that created the mutant registration act?

Hmm...not bad. Not amazing name recognition, but that could be remedied.

Having Gabby campaign for/with him, especially after the DJT assassination attempt, could be beneficial, too. (Or could look like a disgusting political plot, but that's really all our politics.)

Damn that would be a great pick. I'd like to see AOC but Kelly probably has more broad appeal with all the things you mentioned.

Kelly or Mayor Pete seem like the best options.

Buttigieg and AOC ticket? That would be the youth candidacy. Kelly and Buttigieg or vice versa would be more centrist but probably be the most robust candidacy.

I hate to say it, but in this political climate and with the threat of Trump, the best shot is probably two young-ish white guys.

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yeah... i don't think harris is the answer....

If Harris is in, she can use the money already donated. Otherwise they have to start from scratch.

So it's almost guaranteed Harris will be in. Who they pick for VP is the question.

I find this so insane. People talk about who gets to keep the money, who has which rich asshole routing for them, which strategy has been successfull in the past, like always setting up the current president for reelection...

We need to focus on who has actually inspiring policies and ideas. We need to focus on these, because that is what the Reps lack. All they offer is "not the Dems" while the policies they propose are actually unpopular with many of their base. And the whole "Not Trump" strategy of Biden just fell apart.

Is there noone in the Democratic party who can actually come up with a coherent vision of the future and inspire people to follow it?

Is there no one in the Democratic party who can actually come up with a coherent vision of the future and inspire people to follow it?

This is why I think Pete Buttigieg should throw his hat in if they do have a primary. He just had a Bill Maher interview that just went viral because he knows how to talk to the common people. I think his visions are inspiring, he’s done a lot of work for his department, and he isn’t afraid to walk across party lines and go on Republican shows to talk about the real problems. He’s smart enough to smash Trump in a debate, calling out all his lies, and even if Trump is too scared to debate him, he has no problem laying out Trump’s lies elsewhere coherently and cognitively.

Harris/Whitmer is my bet

On the one hand: "you can't have her she's ours!". On the other, she's out in 26 regardless, and she's pretty good so maybe we can share with the rest of the country.

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I don't particularly like her, then again I detest nearly all politicians. That being said, I'm more motivated to vote, that's for certain. I didn't mind Biden, but it felt like elder abuse lol. He's been better than anyone in my lifetime. Good God, I'd rather have her than Hilary as the first woman in the spot. Biden was just hard to watch and that position needs someone that will have to live with the consequences of the decisions in office. Will be curious to see who else puts their name in. 4 years ago he said he wouldn't run again and he seems to be keeping that promise too. If they were clever, they'd put Biden as VP or as an advisor.

She'll have to be. Anybody else would be starting from square one, and that's a luxury we don't have right now.

Half of America lost it's mind when Obama was elected, and we're still dealing with the fallout from that lovely dose of racism. There's no way Kamala could win in this country.

Obama won. And then won again. Stop pumping up the reactionaries as some unstoppable force. They're a minority and have been on a long term losing streak.

like all that aside, a lot of folks aren't appreciative of her background as a cop... but yeah that's a cherry to what you already mentioned

And a lot of swing voters will probably like that she was a prosecutor, a "law and order" type.

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This late in the game, it's almost certainly Harris. Probably picks a swing state governor like Whitmer or Shapiro.

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Literally any straight white man center-right democrat born after 1968 would wipe the floor with trump.

And before anyone jumps down my throat, that’s not what I want. I want president Cortez. But presidents are chosen by money and by about 10,000 generically stupid swing voters in Michigan and Pennsylvania.

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Honestly the biggest problem Biden had was that all his funding dried up after the debate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/18/us/politics/biden-fundraising.html

Regardless of who you think would win in a vacuum you gotta acknowledge this.

I suspended my donations with a memo that they need to seriously consider running someone else. I'll vote for Harris, but I'm not excited for her.

I think she's as fine a candidate as we're likely to get. The biggest bonus is breaking the glass ceiling, once and for ever. Not just a woman but a woman of a colorful heredity. It will be the best thing to happen in this era of bullshit politics.

Gretchen Whitmer would be an interesting choice. She would probably deliver Michigan and free up resources for the other states that matter.

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I stopped donating after the debate. I sent a donation today for 3x my usual. If they only respond to money, then withholding it is the only way to make them listen.

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Bernie 2024, even if he dies of a heart attack first day his appointments would change the country for good and I don’t trust any party politicians on Palestine.

I'm hoping for a Kamala/AOC ticket.

Biden just endorsed Kamala, so that much is likely. The VP will probably be one from a shortlist of 5 or so governors/senators from swing states.

Maybe, but then the swing state could end up with a GOP governor. That's one reason why VPs are often from safe seats, eg Harris, Pence, Biden, Palin, Quayle...

The shortlist I've seen thrown around a lot so far is pretty much Whitmer, Shapiro, Cooper, and Kelly. Maybe someone like Beshear, but I'd call that slightly lower odds than the others. I think they will probably lean away from a 2 woman ticket too

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That would be cool but I suspect it will be a white, straight man to balance out the ticket for the racists and sexists. Maybe someone from a swing state.

Yes more pandering from the DNC to the far right individuals who would never vote for a Democrat to begin with.

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As an outside observer I find it hard to believe that a place as right-wing as the US would elect a woman of colour as president. Isn't that double red rag to the nutjob bulls?

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Hot damn I had forgotten about a new vp pick in the middle of all this. AOC won't be it but needs to be.

that would be great, but there's no way they double down on minorities and women in the same ticket. get ready for a biden jr as the VP.

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I think bernie could wipe the floor with any sitting senator of any age he comes up against but with bidens age and recent performance there is no way you will convince everyone with bernies age factor.

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Biden endorsed Kamala. =)

Kamala has a similar approval rating to Biden. If he wasn't viable, neither is she.

Biden wasn't viable because he has cognitive decline. Kamala will mop the floor with Trump in debates.

I would not be at all surprised if Trump refuses to debate her.

I think I remember reading an earlier analysis that says that Trump has no reason to accept debates with any potential new candidate, as it just gives them more visibility.

Absolutely. They had no reason to debate Biden again. They sure as shit won't put him on stage against her, or ANY other candidate.

This would be awesome. Give Harris a two hour uninterrupted prime time spot to let the former prosecutor make a case against electing a convicted felon and follow it with 2 hours of the oldest candidate in US history rambling. 😆

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Trump will visibly age on stage like Palpatine from the absolute roasting Harris would do to him

Both candidates are experiencing decline, and if Biden were elected and incapable of doing the job it would have resulted in a Harris Presidency anyway. It's such an odd thing to object over. We've had presidents in decline before and the country kept running just fine, (FDR, Reagan.)

Biden did a fine job in office, I'm especially proud of his union support, and his policies were spot on in my opinion. To throw him under the bus like this seems really shitty.

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People don't know much about Kamala yet. That will now change very dramatically. Biden had hit his ceiling, a known quantity that everyone already knew very well. Harris has room to climb.

That's something I think some people just missed when Biden dropping out was debated. Of course, the other potential picks were polling behind him at that point. But he was showing clear signs that he had peaked, and would only be able to fight not to drop further. His most powerful argument had been not being Trump - which any candidate can wield. And any candidate with charisma and the ability to speak, debate and campaign has a lot of room to move up, whereas Biden was fighting not to move down.

To be fair, most people really don't know much about her yet. She's mostly stayed in the shadows as a VP. That could change, for better or worse, when they know her better.

This is a hilarious misreading of polling data. Kamala may not win, but her percentage chance to win might be double or more of what Bidens was.

People I follow were estimating Biden at 10-15% by the time the election rolled around. All the models assume that a candidate would run a normal campaign. Something that he is not capable of doing.

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As much as I think that he was too old for the position… JFC. If the Dems don’t nominate Kamala Harris as his replacement, the entire Democratic nomination will be filled with so much infighting that they will lose the faith of their electorate and the next election.

If only more Dems were left-of-centre such that Bernie was a viable option. Unfortunately almost all of them are right-lite.

Bernie Sanders is even older than Biden, he should have been the nominee in 2016 but now it's too late for him

He's older but FAR more mentally capable than Joe was in 2020. Aging affects everyone differently.

I think he'd be suited to the job, but not electable.

Yeah that's totally true, but it's too much of a risk IMO. There will be great candidates like AOC in the future (she has too little experience right now), that might be the ones fulfilling Bernie's dream. Sadly Bernie won't be it

He barely aged since 2016. At least mentally and physically he runs circles around both of the other gramps. Recent interview with Colbert.

Edit: OFC it would be nevertheless delusional to nominate him instead of Harris. He can still influence future democrat policies from the background.

In 2016 it was a "Vote Against Trump Regardless Of Who It Is". It's shaping up to be that again, but this gives me hope that maybe we'll have someone we can vote for that we like... Even if just a little. Harris is no Obama in charm, but it's a step in the right direction.

The general election will continue to be a strategic vote against the party you don't want to win until voters come out en masse in the primaries. And those better candidates will have to actually be running in the primaries.

Not just the primaries; it's going to take a tea party style insurgency into the DNC in order to exact the actual changes that we are looking for. The long play is getting involved in your state level Democratic party apparatus and pushing for better representation of progressive policies in the party platform, and pushing people of progressive persuasions into the DNC. <--- Much inadvertent alliteration.

You mean not until the entire voting system is overhauled and the first pass the fence post system is abandoned.

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I could care less about charm. I wish more people would. Personally, I want a fucking autistic that defines real goals, outlines a plan to achieve them, and measures their success on how efficiently the goals are met. I'm exaggerating a bit, but I miss the days where politicians had platforms and were willing to be something more than just a feeling.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/21/open-convention-democrats-biden-drop-out/

"How Democrats would pick a new candidate if Biden drops out, step by step"

One [possibility] is a virtual vote that would lock in a new nominee in early August, and the other is an “open” convention, a scenario the party hasn’t experienced since 1968.
A convention is open when no candidate arrives with a clear majority of delegates, so the event turns into a mini-primary in which contenders scramble to persuade delegates to vote for them...
Some states have August deadlines to get on the ballot for the general election, and early voting begins in some places in September. So party leaders probably would try to settle the nomination before the Democratic National Convention begins Aug. 19.

There are two types of Democratic delegates. Pledged delegates commit to supporting the candidate state voters chose, although a “good conscience” clause in the party’s rules gives them a bit of wiggle room.

Automatic delegates, often called superdelegates, are the party’s highest-profile leaders. They have the role because of the offices they hold (or held), and the group includes former presidents and vice presidents, Democratic governors, members of Congress and party officials. They are not pledged to any candidate and are not allowed to vote on the first ballot at the convention.

a scenario the party hasn’t experienced since 1968

because the 1968 Democratic Convention went swimmingly – oh, they’re also holding this year’s convention in Chicago again you say? with increased police presence as well?

Well, at least there isn't anything controversial going on overseas that's got the college kids riled up this time /s

Dumb question. Why didn't they just schedule the convention prior to all deadlines regardless who runs for office? Is there any benefit to meeting so late?

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So president will be decided by the Sperm Court. Autocorrect definitely not worth fixing

What happens now? Does the DNC pick a replacement or will they be holding a snap primary?

A new canidate will be picked during the DNC on 19-22 august.

Correct.

And Kamala is the most logical choice, because there will be the least amount of legal hurdles, since she was already on the ticket.

And the Republicans already said they are going to mount legal challenges, which can easily lead to SCOTUS deciding the election. So I expect Sanders, AOC and progressives to strongly push for Kamala.

But I fully expect the DNC to push forward some corporate candidate like Bloomberg.

It's going to be interesting.

There are no legal hurdles. The private organization can nominate whomever they want regardless of their votes and their rules.

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You think the DNC is going to try to push out the centrist, sitting vice president of their party during a presidential election? The vice presidential that aligns with the majority of their constituents, has a huge war chest of money, and is a well know and generally liked member of the party?

The DNC are idiots, but that makes no sense at all.

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Anything could happen. Most likely is the elected delegates will decide at the convention (edit: when you vote for "Biden," you are basically voting for who the delegates that will elect him will vote for, so you still elected those delegates). Redoing a primary before then would be next to impossible. Takes weeks or months to get signatures to get on the ballot, then you need time to recruit staff to work the polls, etc.

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From my European point of view, i just hope she picks Kelly as her VP. A progressive Astronaut, Ambassador for UNITED24 and someone that knows that we should save us from the ultimate climate collapse...maybe we can get Alexander Gerst here in Germany to do some politics :D

Not a bad pick, could help keep Arizona blue. Having someone that's been in combat on the ticket could nail help nail Trump on his "suckers" and "losers" stuff about the military. Could swing some independents.

*Would definitely swing independents.

Just voting on personalities, as a disinterested independent, which team are you going to vote for? The young(ish) team with the astronaut and fighter pilot or the one with the geriatric fart that can’t talk?

And you lock in Arizona.

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So the back the blue party of law and order will vote for the cop instead of the convicted felon now.

Just like the religious moral right will vote for the actual church attending catholic rather than the guy who doesn't go to church and doesn't know how to hold a bible upright.

They should make Hunter Biden the VP pick, what a glorious troll that would be

I'm not American but want to be in the loop. Media here is saying Kamala Harris is the likely successor. What do people think of her? Is she liked? I assume her actual politics are more or less the same since she was VP.

People don't know her tbh. She used to be kind of a poor public speaker, but seems to have solved that based on recent appearances. Not gonna lie she's a bit strange if you've ever heard her speak, but I don't think it'll hurt her against Trump who is an all time weirdo in American politics. Importantly she's young and fairly sharp and hasn't been around long enough to have too many skeletons in her closet.

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Not American either, i just hope she chooses Kelly as her VP...a progressive Astronaut in politics is more important than ever.

Kelly should hold on to his Senate seat for as long as possible. There is zero guarantee that Arizona would send another Democrat to replace him.

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I see so many suggestions for different people to run in bidens place, and I fear that that may lead to enough disunity for Trump to win an Election

Leaves me curious to see how this will play out

Don't worry: this place doesn't reflect the general american public in any meaningful way. That said, the general american public is probably a bit confused as well.

I'll throw my 2 cents in: Jon Stewart should make a sketch about how he jokingly accepts the candidacy but then it turns out to be official to his "dismay".

Would be great except for the fact that Jon Stewart himself made a GREAT argument for why the skills to educate and entertain the American public do NOT align with the responsibilities of the office of the president. Those skills DO align with what's needed to successfully address congress, but not with playing the politics game.

He should be the press secretary though

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Sounds like Kamala Harris is gonna be the next candidate. Biden's already endorsed her and I'm sure there's some superdelegate bullshit going on that will screw other candidates.

It could be the second time the Democrats field an unpopular and disliked female candidate against Trump.

Do people really feel as sour about Kamala as they did Hilary? Hilary made people feel slimy for voting for her to some degree, she was arrogant and callous.

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Kelly-Harris or Harris-Kelly.

Either one of those combinations stomps Trump into the pavement.

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Honest question.

Now that Biden is out, can any Democrat run for election? Or is Kamala it?

Biden has endorsed Harris.

There's no law governing this. Depends on what the Democratic Party does. May be that it's decided internally on Harris. No way to know for certain.

I expect that we will find out soon, because whoever runs has very little time to do so, so the Democrats cannot screw around here -- they need to get a pick in place quickly and get the campaign moving.

Gretchen Whitmer and Gavin Newsom, the other two frontrunners I've seen mentioned, have previously said that they will not run against Harris if she wants it. So it's probably Harris's call.

The Democrats officially choose their nominee at the convention (or maybe a virtual vote this year). There will be only one ticket running for the Democrats, but someone other than Harris could try to get selected. It's really unlikely though, as rejecting Harris would be very damaging to the party and two major competitors already said they wouldn't try to run against her.

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