Guess I'm the only one who read her post and thought the wives were the ones following the young Women.
That's a perfectly legitimate way to interpret the text, and might even be true.
Yeah it’s a poorly constructed sentence isn’t it
Ambiguïty increases memetic potential
You're not. But the author of the sentence is not necessarily a contender for Grammarian of the Year.
They mostly are.
Fellow dyslexic ٩( ☉ o⚆)
I’m not an old dude, but I mean these women need that crowd to make money. It’s weird calling them creeps but at the same time they are posting nearly nude photos of themselves publicly on social media. Who do they think is following that content? Physicists at CERN calculating the new gravitation force off of your oversized diaper butt BBL? medical doctors determining the tolerance a 115lb woman with 1000cc of silicone can tolerate? Get real, you’re posting your tits because you know exactly those types of dudes will follow and you can either trick them into giving you money for feet pics or buying you a weekend in Dubai.
These 22 year old “model influencers” will be begging for these old dudes to pay them attention when they hit the wall in 5 years.
Yea, those busted 27 year olds. Wtf
Yeah, they kind of had a point until they busted out the incel-speak at the end.
That "hit the wall" stuff is always hilariously transparent. It's a self-soothe. "She won't be worth it in a few years anyway so you're not missing out."
I'm 38 and the wall where I stop getting unwanted attention sure never seems to come. Which is disappointing. I'm really looking forward to my crone era.
Your comment very much reminds me of an episode of 30 Rock in which Liz Lemon starts dressing like an old crone and acting crazy on the subway to secure a place to sit.
I may need to watch this show.
Highly recommend it, Tina Fey is an icon. Just beware that you'll be quoting her character more often than you'll notice yourself.
So the moral of the story is that boobies are good even after they turn 27?
I have written this before, but I don't think it actually stops. I do not think it's even about looks really. Or at least I'm over 50 and still getting catcalled on my way to work. Fully expect to be 90 and have some kid yell "Lookin' spry, grandma!" at me from a moving car.
Have you started collecting toadstool and eye of newt? How is your mad cackle coming along? Are you behind on setting up your 401crone?
My mad cackle is glorious. The rest... can use some work.
The ones using the wall thing can't even tell how old a woman is anyways. I got told I'll hit the wall once I reach 26 and then I will have regrets. I was already well into my 30s at that time.
At they end? The whole thing is toxic incel red-pilled hate speech.
Is an incel someone who doesn’t white knight for women who couldn’t care less about their own existence? It’s gotten to the point where incel just means “a guy who believes men and women should be equal”. Yeah, I was exaggerating when I was saying 27 but there are tons of women online regretting not taking relationships more seriously when they were in their 30’s.
It’s gotten to the point where incel just means “a guy who believes men and women should be equal”.
No, that's not even remotely true, and it's not what your previous comment was saying either.
Incels are essentially misogynists with a sexual fixation. Like classical misogynists tend to be more occupied with women having jobs or holding positions of power, while incels tend to be more upset about women's sexual habits, but both are preoccupied with hating on women they deem to be misbehaving.
I think the part of your previous comment that gave the most 'incel vibes' was the bit about women begging for attention after 'hitting the wall' in their 20s. Maybe you intended it as a comment on women who regretted not taking relationships more seriously in their 30s, but it came off as a sort of fantasy where the women who transgressed your model of how ladies should act get their just desserts.
Lingua franca dude. I've never heard "hit the wall" used outside the man-o-sphere. Maybe not exclusively incel, but incel adjacent at least.
If men only date women below 30 (or 27 apparently??) for their youthful appearance, what incentive do those women have to take dating seriously? Those men won’t stay anyway. This is the main contradiction in incel rhetoric. If you don’t like to look at women past 30, women shouldn’t date you “seriously “ while in their 20s.
It's become a generic insult like re*d or faot was. Or still is for some people. Probably the same crowd. Saying that creepy old dudes are generally mainly interested in younger women and would lose interest as they get older is kinda the point of why they're creepy old dudes. Not an incel thing to say, just how creepy old dudes work.
Apparently have insulted a lot of creepy old dudes
It’s what Decaprio does so…
Dicaprio hasn't been a role model for me since I saw him in basketball diaries and spent the next few years trying to be just like Jim Carroll. Never again Leo. Never again.
Did you go around telling Reggie to put it away?
Sad face. Reggie was a real one
I will say that by 27 creepy old men did stop yelling their attraction at me as I walked down the street, which was nice
Are you sure it was because of your age or was it in respect to your Rank? Unless you were still a Lt. Lezbian at the time. Here's hoping Major is soon!
They certainly were particularly vocal back when I was an ensign
If you're navy captain lezbian I sure hope major is not in your future. Cheers to future admiralty!
Hey bro physicists beat off too.
Too bad that physicists can't afford to be sugar daddies
I can't find where she called them creeps but I think her issue is that they are married.
Are married men not supposed to look at other people's tits now?
You may not be an old dude, but it sure seems like you already hit the wall.
Friend of mine's father, who was seventy at the time, got hit on by an older lady at the grocery store.
Lamenting that he didn't follow it up with her, "she was eighty, but a young eighty, if you know what I mean"
Wall? Gtfo, dumbass
I think you may have misunderstood.
If you're a 22yo "influencer" and your target market is people who follow 22yo influencers then it will be difficult to generate engagement when you're 27.
That doesn't seem that controversial to me, and I don't see how octogenarians getting laid at the supermarket is relevant?
They're mad because you don't simp like they do.
I dont think they generally deny what you are saying
If I were to do that, I'd probably do it for the money. I would get unfaithful followers (hard to pinpoint who because open relationships and other types of relationships exist, but statistically, there would be), and that wouldn't make it any less uncomfortable. I personally hate unfaithful/dishonest partners.
Men looking at boobs doesn't make them unfaithful.
Depends on your relationship
It depends. Some relationships are open to pornography, others aren't. Some are open to sexual intercourse outside their people, but others aren't. It's about consent and agreeing to live in a way that all needs are met.
That's why I said it's hard to know who is betraying their partner and who isn't, because maybe a man or woman or whoever following an erotic/pornographic content creator is not outside what their partner(s) expect, or maybe they are.
Anyway, I do not like people breaking their "contracts" instead of talking them out.
I think the concept of sexual cheating is obsolete and malignant psychological evolutionary flotsam that should be stamped out. That those who wish to reinforce its social presence should be bullied and ostracized for it.
I disagree. Violence is not the answer, and especially not against people that are living in a way that doesn't hurt others. If a couple (or polycule) wants to be sexually exclusive, they have the right to do so, and they do not hurt others because it's not a social imposition for everyone.
Edit: I mean, I understand questioning why we choose it, "deconstructing", as we now call it, but after that, I think it's an intimate matter.
Yes, I only applied as much force and violence as the normative consensus. I mean... not even close since they used to stone adulterers to death so.
I think claims in favour of sexual exclusivity enforcement need to be taken skepticism at minimum but ideally string opposition.
Also need to avoid mote and bailey arguments about this.
I don’t follow any of them yet they still flood my instagram „search“ tab.
Not that I complain.
Do you get constant targeted ads for devices to keep leaves out of your gutters? All I seem to get are those, belts and fat men t-shirt ads.
The algorithm is working as intended!
I have no gutters and I'm a skinny dude with no ass. Better targeted ads would be roof rakes, pants with a <30 waist and suspenders.
Yes belly old man T-shirts are the worst as I’m working hard on NOT having a belly and this like like saying „fuck you you gonna get it regardless, that’s what algorithm already knows“
I'm 50 and get posts from OnlyFans accounts and advertising for kegels exercises, mixed in with woodworking videos. I blame all the other men out there. No wonder I don't use social media much anymore. I just want to see my friend's and family's pics/vids.
I always find it peculiar and proof of self-hatred that humans are so averse and judgemental about reveling in our sexuality.
It's a major part of who we all are, whether we choose to deny that or not. Cultures and world religions always run by monied interests would prefer we spend our time miserable collecting more for their dragon hoard piles as they live in hyper-decadent debauchery, and most of us have been too fucked in the head with sexual and "don't be laaaazy" shame to be fixable, but humanity would have been so much happier if we spent less time sacrificing ourselves to the God of economic metastasis and more time fucking, especially in an age of birth control.
We might not even have put ourselves on the express lane to self-extinction we're currently careening down in search of more treasure for the masters.
Sex is free, fun, and everyone can do it. We can't have that in capitalism, why would people work for money?
This isn't coming from the self, our culture is extremely anti human, anti sexuality (the major cause of human)
Discussion of sexuality is grounds for erasure in most spheres of society. When sexuality is permitted to be depicted, it is almost always in a negative condemning light similar to how's drugs are discussed.
The only valid and acceptable use of sexuality is when its vague reminder is used to sell us garbage like beer and trucks or whatever.
Even the majority of art and artist pretend sexuality is not part of art, unless it's rape.
I don't know what culture you live in, but I think your description of what's embraced by modern culture is at odds with what we see on TV, on Netflix, on YouTube, in magazines, in books, talked about by people everyday.
What is it specifically that you wish you could find that's not available, that you feel ought to be appropriate but isn't, somehow? I'm struggling to figure this one out.
I'm not sure where you are seeing any of that on those platforms. Except as bait or advertising, I see no genuine expression of sexuality and in fact it is explicitely banned on almost all platforms that only pornography depicts it honestly and I mean "honestly" because the vast majority of it is of course fake and vulgar commercial trash.
You can see it with the hot tub twitch stream. The repression is so intense that these little gimmick are the bleeding edge of "showing some midriff in a bikini". That's the state of the discourse for the most extreme elements of culture and beyond that is just an empty meaningless desert.
economic metastasis
Love it
I think the issue is, when reveling in your sexuality, everyone involved must consent. It's hard to say whether posting pics of you in revealing clothes is consent for old men to ogle or not. I'd say if you post it publicly, then it should be fine for said old men to respectfully ogle. But if said old men decide to comment something like, "would love to squirtle on those jigglypuffs" on the revealing image, we're suddenly entering nonconsensual territory. So there's a fine line and it's easy to cross. Simply loving looking at boobs on the internet is fine; many women enjoy being admired. But if you take it any further, that's when problems arise. Enjoy your sexuality responsibly, my friends. 💕
Edit: it's both extremely telling and extremely concerning how much my rational take on consent is triggering all these pathetic men.
If you don't want people spreading your images, wanking to your images, making crude comment about your images, oogling your images, etc etc. And I don't mean just nudes, I mean any picture you post...
Then don't post them online.
because once they hit the internet, in any capacity, you've lost all control of them, forever. They will still be there to be discovered when you are lying in a nursing home at 104 years old, Your descendants so far removed that they dont even know your name will still be at risk of stumbling upon them. People on the other side of the planet might use it in advertising or virtual sex dolls without you ever knowing.
You might not like it, you might not want it, you might not consent to it, but its still going to happen.
And if you want it to not happen, don't post things online. Because not posting is the only control you'll ever be able to exert over them.
Whatever you say, really don't care. I don't need some rando to tell me shit I already know.
"I don't care what some rando has to say, now let me go back to posting on the site full of randos talking to eachother. BUT THEY BETTER NOT REPLY TO ME!"
Sorry, I should have said I don't care to be mansplained about basic shit about how posting things on the internet works. You guys are really fucking obnoxious, it's telling how badly my comment about consent set you all off.
Yes. your comment set me off so much that I made a calm, rational response about the dangers of posting online and the lack of control you have over it.
God, someone stop me. Won't someone think of the children?
You regurgitated what a million other jerk ass men already said. I get it. Things on the internet are there forever, it's all the women's fault for posting revealing pics, I mean they were asking for it with the way they were dressed, huh?
Yes yes.
Everyone is the enemy, even if they've no hate or hostility, and have provided nothing but calm and rational discourse.. you won't let that stop you from imagining what they said, so you can be upset about that instead.
Because you must justify being an obnoxious ass about everything, and to everyone, to try and artificially elevate respectful discourse into screaming and skreeeeee-ing, because its the only way you can sustain your perpetual victim complex to justify yourself. Its why you do abhorrent shit like equate basic internet safety that an alarming majority of people don't know or realize in this day and age to rape. Because using rape in this way is a great way to provoke all sorts of responses that you can self-victimize yourself with, over and over again, to wallow in your euphoria of imagined persecution.
Man, you must tell a lot of women online that their titties are bumpin'.
Oh absolutely. Thats all I post.
At least according to someones imagination.
How many times do I have to tell you I don't care about your regurgitated "internet safety" lecture. I already knew and yet you decided to type a whole fucking condescending essay. So, as respectfully and calmly as possible, fuck off.
Seem to care an awful lot, since you are still here being a pissy asshole.
Just cant resist provoking hostility to feed that persecution complex, can you.
Just cant resist provoking hostility to feed that persecution complex, can you.
See, this is unhinged. You've been antagonizing them this entire time.
You've criticized them for bringing up rape, and yet you just can't seem to leave them alone, can you? Weird.
Some poor sap has come in here just to say something like "McDonald's shouldn't run their coffee machine so god damn hot if it's going to fuse labia together," and you've come in to correct the record: "Hm. Well. Actually, the only safe way to handle hot coffee is not to buy one. I'm very smart." Cool. Thanks, dude. I don't know what that has to do with anything, but I'm glad the abstinence-only sex ed seems to be working for you.
I've literally been sexually assaulted and you set me off too. Maybe you're just a fucking dumbass
Well, as someone who's been through it, I'd really hope you of all people would understand the fucking importance of consent.
I also understand consequences for actions. If it was a private insta page, that's one thing, and I don't necessarily support these men's actions nor would I take them myself, insofar as the thirsty comments, but if I posted a picture of myself that was purposefully sexy publicly, those are the comments I have to be prepared to get. I really don't think your argument holds weight, as the consent is done when they post the image publicly to a place with public comments. That was the choice they made. I think that if somebody's pictures are leaked or something, that's totally different, but just insofar as public forums.... yeah no
So does a woman walking in public wearing revealing clothes deserve to be catcalled? Because that's basically what you're arguing. It's literally victim blaming, why can't men simply be respectful? Why are women made to police themselves?
Are we really equivocating catcalling, in which a woman has immediate and relevant fears for her physical safety, and some gross comments online?
Like when somebody tells me they're gonna rape me in a video game lobby, I don't appreciate their language but I'm not legitimately fearful.
I'd also really think somebody that cares about people wouldn't throw somebody's trauma in their face, fwiw
I don't appreciate people using their trauma as a trump card, fwiw
Wasn't a trump card. Was intended to show you just how ridiculous your line of argumentation was. If I said I'm right because I've been sexually assaulted, that would be different.
If you show your tits to the internet on an open platform anyone can leave comments on, you automatically consent to people looking at your tits and commenting on them.
Until that platform specifically restricts the types of comments you don't like, all you can do is suck it up, buttercup.
So do you get off on being an ass or is it just something that naturally happens?
If someone climbs on a soapbox to spout racist shit, you wouldn't have any problem with random people heckling them.
It's the same with showing your tits online.
If you don't want to attract creepy comments, don't do stuff that attracts creepy people.
"If women don't want to be sexually harassed why do they have boobs?"
It's not just having boobs, quit being a twat.
You missed the point entirely, congrats genius.
Your previous comment shows you completely missed the entire subject of this submission
Didn't realize I was arguing with someone who struggles with reading comprehension. My bad.
Mate you're the one who's too daft to understand the difference between 'havibg breasts' and 'putting pictures on your breasts on social media.'
This isn't even restricted to women. If a guy puts pictures of his cock on the internet, on a public forum everyone can access and comment on, he can't fucking act surprised that some people are going to check out his pics and then comment on them.
You're genuinely dumber than a box of rocks and in contention for the biggest idiot I had the displeasure to interact with this week.
There's still tomorrow, but I doubt anyone could beat you.
Maybe that extremist view of consent is a disease.
Fucking yikes.
Who fucked with your head?
My bad for thinking consent is important, boy am I glad a bunch of men decided to tell me consent is actually bullshit!
That is "all-or-nothing" thinking, nobody here is saying "consent is un important bullshit".
Edit: it’s both extremely telling and extremely concerning how much my rational take on consent is triggering all these pathetic men.
Your initial comment was rational, it was well-thought out and you made a fair point while ending the comment on a positive note. Left alone, I would have upvoted your well-considered opinion and moved on.
However, your follow up responses and your edit were unprovoked ad hominem sexist attacks where you assume everyone who disagrees is a mansplaining penis-wielder whose words have less value than your own. While having your views challenged can be confronting, responding in the manner you are only detracts from your argument.
But if said old men decide to comment something like, "would love to squirtle on those jigglypuffs" on the revealing image, we're suddenly entering nonconsensual territory.
I would love to know which women are set off by this.
Put something on a public platform = accept that people will look at it. Allow for people to comment on it and you invite these comments. If someone wants to post pictures and not get comments on them, they can post them to a platform that doesn't allow comments.
That's right! Exactly.
For instance, this is public, and if a bunch of random weirdos came in here and started saying things like "whoa, who let the monkey out of his cage?" or "I'm about to put something on his public platform = 1,000 unsolicited dicks," there's absolutely nothing you, or I, can do about that—and it would be wrong to do anything, of course!
There are a non-insignificant number of people in society who can't seem to handle the concept of consent. Then we have an ever growing number of incels awkward enough in relationships and socially that they can't talk about sexual topics without becoming angry and violent.
A lot of our societal taboos about sexuality are trying to keep those people at bay.
It's a mental health problem to be sure and it needs to be handled in society but it is rarely actually worked that way. It's easier in some countries to make women hide away than it is too deal with the men that are out of control.
We really as a race can't revel in our sexuality until we manage to get our morality under control.
You're treating the symptoms as the causes dude. If we had more open discussion about these things I don't think such issues would be as commonplace.
If people understood more of what victims of rape go through, they're much less likely to view consent as a hazy line.
I go to many places where sexuality is celebrated rather than shamed and because of that it's much less of a big deal. At one music festival I went to there were coed communal showers. I was kind of nervous but I headed down. Got in there and everybody was laughing and singing, sudsing each other up with soap, etc. This wasn't because it was some kind of huge orgy, but rather that everybody was comfortable with the nudity and we were having fun together in a totally non sexual way, in my opinion only made possible by the openness everybody had about sexuality there.
We are sexual creatures (except ace people), ain't no two ways about it. Keeping sex taboo does nothing to prevent the problems you're describing. It's like the Islamic extremists who think the only way to protect women is by taking away their rights, making their beauty a taboo, etc. And still, these places have their own problems with rape anyway, so clearly that doesn't work.
I disagree.
I think the reason people may be downvoting you is that this comment has no reason as to why you disagree. I have not btw. I respect disagreement
Yes, those two whole downvotes really make me lose sleep.
I don't really want to get into it because I can see from your replay that you won't be arguing in good faith, but we'll give it one go. If you start moving the goal posts, changing the subject or cherry picking I'll just block you. Defend what you claim in whole or dispute what I say in whole with non-fallcy fact. If you want to argue, we can debate it, but I'm not going to have your cheesing it.
Everything I mentioned is an observation of what humanity does. It's objective, there is sufficient documentation if it happening in court cases and search fodder. Most of your post is opinion about how you feel in your circumstances and poorly thought out enough that I felt it's better written off than addressed, but let's give it a shot.
"You’re treating the symptoms as the causes dude." this is your opinion, you only offer more opinion to back it up. I disagree, cause and effect are sometimes hard to peel apart. You give a starving person bread. You don't give a rapist access to women talking about sex. Giving a rapist free and open access to women isn't going to cure him. (my opinion, free to debate)
"If people understood more" is an opinion and unfounded. Do you have proof for that? I disagree
"I go to many places where " fallacy, your experience isn't everyone's experience. Same goes for your communal showers. How many cases of gang rape and murder happen? Just because communal shows and bathrooms can exist in some places with some people, doesn't mean that it's good for everyone everywhere. (my opinion, free to debate)
"We are sexual creatures (except ace people), ain’t no two ways about it. " this does not support your statement that we should be more open sexually. Just because we replicate sexually does not mean society in whole can handle it. Evolution provided us reproduction, rape and misogyny, cultural enlightenment made those things bad and wrong. We are all enlightened equally and going back to the stone age to have more open sex isn't going to improve that. We can return to it perhaps once we move along socially, but right now, it's just a horror show waiting to happen.
"Keeping sex taboo does nothing to prevent the problems" then why separate pedo's from children? We do it because it works, we do it because if we don't bad things happen.
"It’s like the Islamic extremists who think the only way to protect women is by taking away their rights, making their beauty a taboo, etc. And still, these places have their own problems with rape anyway, so clearly that doesn’t work." - you insinuate it can't be worse without any proof that it makes it better. Because there is a theft in a neighborhood, one can't say the police and laws are useless.
It’s a mental health problem to be sure and it needs to be handled in society
In my opinion, this is the answer, and just being more sexual is not going to do anything but get a lot of people hurt.
I think it's hilarious how you accuse me of arguing in bad faith then purposely misrepresent my argument to make yours look better not even 10 sentences later. I have benn writing a reply to this comment and I really hope you read it when I finish.
After I quit porn, I became more sensitive to the minds and souls of women, and now my sexual attraction can flow to a desire for the women being happy.
This may seem counterintuitive if you have an addiction involving lust, but I am now more completely reveling in my sexuality.
she starts and ends with doctor, she's a double doctor if you will
Well damn, I didn't notice the first time.
I once got an online rectal exam from a Dr. Pepper and he turned out to be fake. I no longer use doctors on twitter
so no twitter doctors anymore and just sticking with Dr. Pepper now?
I am
Well you're a nerd!
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YOUR GETTIN MUGGED KID!
Men liking pictures of beautiful women is not weird. I think it's weirder that our economic system incentivizes selling empty sexuality and even emptier engagement from consumers of it.
Men following attractive women. So weird.
Concerning new trend, are these men becoming a new form of boob predators ?
Boobs.
Dopamine receptors that aren't severely down-regulated.
Let people like what they like, whether it's looking at girls online, cosplay, sports, or being an insufferable cunt on social media.
I wish more women in their late 40s showed pictures of their boobs so I can follow them. Because even MILF porn is like women who are maybe 40 most of the time and I'm attracted most to women my age. I just am.
"mature" is the search term you're looking for.
There's precious little of that too. Unless maybe if I want to pay for it. And paying for porn on the internet?
I thinks it's weird when people choose to make their online profiles open to the public then get upset when people view their content.
That's literally the only reason I signed up for Instagram, but over half of my feed has become wholesome videos of people doing arts & crafts, woodworking, cooking, animals, inspiring vignettes, graphic design hacks, and bunch of other things. As cool as those other things are, I just wanted to see boobies.
And one of the weirdest things about Instagram, is that nudity is banned UNLESS the woman is breastfeeding (and a few other scenarios). So this seems to have spawned a weird sort of genre of what appears to be breastfeeding porn, women who are posting nude videos of themselves while breastfeeding, specifically to get around the nudity ban. It's kind of weird and exploitative, I don't really understand why it's allowed (except for educational purposes, but these videos don't seem to meet that bar). It's like, showing breasts is offensive because kids might be able to see nudity and we don't want kids seeing nude women... unless we film the nudity with kids in it, then that magically makes it ok.
Hey Peter, man, check out channel nine! It's the breast exams! Woo!
Siiiigh, sounds like I'm gonna have to join Instagram again...
Dr Iver Mectin
This is a good bit.
FART MONSTER TWO K
I don’t really see how wives following a bunch of young women is weird, they often socialize quite a bit with each other.
Same answer for why dudes constantly channel flip... looking for boobs.
And why soo many YouTube, Netflix and Amazon prime thumbnails have boobs.
They invented capitalism because boob hoarding was inefficient.
Lol, thumbnail pic of "FartMonster"... that's a real hard 40 years. Dude looks near 70.
I'm practically 40 and that guy looks older than my dad
The maddest of lads
Seems less weird when you put it that way
SWEET GOD BY DEMON DEMON HOW IS THE TEXT COLORED LIKE THAT
It seems people in the comments here missed the "with wives" part. Generally speaking, your wife is not going to be terribly pleased with you ogling or getting off to other women. And violating that is what makes these men count as weird.
So glad my wife is not like that
Mutual agreement "look ok, but no touch" is perfect.
these dudes aren’t weird, they’re sadly very common
Do you think most of these young women wish that these older men would stop following them?
how can i know, im not them
Young woman posts pictures of herself for people to follow and pay for. Older men pay for them. Everybody wins
You almost had it
Why sadly?
They get clicks, their viewers get off, everyone wins.
"...because I objectify young women and I like it."
There's got to be some kind of line between "objectifying young women" and "horny".
I mean, the statement "those young women, or many of them" is already pretty objectifying. But I also question what he can mean. Is it random selfies taken by women? Is it just seeing women's bodies devoid of context and sexualizing them? Because that unquestionably would be objectifying, yeah.
I mean, the statement “those young women, or many of them” is already pretty objectifying.
It's describing them. Objectifying would be closer to "Those hot pieces of ass" or something equivalent. Reducing the individual to component parts.
But I also question what he can mean.
People posting their pictures on blast and then getting angry because you looked at them can seem a bit hypocritical. It's the low-key version of celebrities complaining about being famous.
Women who post their tits on twitter objectify themselves in the first place.
When you make your body a commodity, you can't act surprised when people treat it like one.
How is this downvoted? Dude literally admits to creeping on women's profiles so he can ogle their photos. How is he any different from old school weirdos who would whack it to Sports Illustrated?
This isn't someone admitting to enjoying porn (which is still a problematic industry in itself but that's another, more complex, issue). It is someone admitting to looking at regular photos on women's profiles and fantasizing about their tits.
That's textbook objectification of women.
How fucking dare that creepy disgusting old man look at pictures of young, beautiful women QUEENS on a platform where they're posting pictures of themselves! This isn't what the internet is meant for, how dare he!
Hmm
Edit: I just had to edit it, to really hammer home the mockery.
Objectifying women is wrong, but - c'mon. This is the internet, you post pictures of yourself on it and don't know the consequences? That's on you, or your parents if you're below a certain age.
Cause God forbid we expect men to not by misogynist perverts. Women should just cover head to toe and never show themselves in public because "consequences", yea?
Nah fuck that victim blaming mentality. Women should be able to post pictures of themselves online without worrying about perverts objectifying them.
Men need to learn to be better and held accountable for their shitty behavior.
I imagine men will start behaving differently right around the time your head becomes unlodged from your ass.
Showing yourself in public ≠ posting pictures of yourself online. I understand that, for the terminally online, these things are interchangeable. I am sorry to inform you of this, though it's probably valuable that you learn it now, but they are not.
This isn't victim blaming. This is cause and effect.
I think there's a difference between experiencing objectification and being objectified but not knowing.
What's wrong with whacking it to sports illustrated? Who is being harmed?
Your thoughts are dirty and you should feel ashamed you disgusting sinner!
Or something, idk they might as well be religious
Oh, look, a straw feminist. Haven't seen one of those in awhile.
This is what peak mansplaining looks like. She didn't ask a question and I'm sure she already knows the why.
Heterosexual men want to look at boobs. If she thinks this is “weird,” I feel she needs something explained to her.
So do yourself and FartMonster2k not know about PornHub, or...?
An older adult following a bunch of much younger people on normal social media for sexual purposes is 100% weird.
How old do you think the women on pornhub are? What makes them more acceptable to look at over the women on instagram? I mean if we're talking about dudes perving on private social media accounts of 15 year olds, yeah of course that's fucked up. But that isn't at all the implication I got here, rather I assumed he's talking about OnlyFans models and other young women (not girls) who are offering their looks as a product, like Yellz0 or Kaitlyn Krems. In that case, this is extremely normal, and not really any different than the nearly 100 years of Hollywood; or did you assume the beautiful young starlets were only meant to appeal to their age peers (despite being cast and promoted by primarily older men)?
Hollywood, magazines, art, sales catalogues, and pornography; they are all selling the sexual appeal of young adulthood. And so long as the men and women being gazed at are willingly and consensually offering the display of their body, and they're of legal and intellectual ability to consent, then nobody is being wronged here, and nobody is behaving abnormally. These women deserve respect (as do the women on pornhub, to be clear; I'm still trying to understand what separates the two entities to you), and stepping over established boundaries, personal or social, is not okay obviously, but assuming the caveats I've outlined, I see nothing disrespectful about buying what somebody is willfully selling.
As for the age gap.... look, we can pretend to be this perfectly evolved species of always equitable and simple moral choices while ignoring literally the whole of human history which heavily implies an attraction in humans to young adulthood that doesn't seem to wean with age, or we can accept reality for what it is, warts and all. Personally for me, I just don't see how infantilizing young adults as if they are helpless children in need of constant coddling and viewing every relationship as an inherent competition of power and experience where any imbalance implies irreconcilable differences benefits us as a society.
I appreciate you bestie but I ain't reading all that
Okay, I'll try to make it more appropriate for you. Ahem:
Why woman sell sex on pornhub okay, but women sell sex on instagram bad?
Also human think young adult sexy. Always, but also now.
Not op, but imma be honest with you, I'm currently drunk at an airport bar and I appreciate the absolute fuck out of this tldr
I appreciate you, my drunk friend.
You assume they're following sex workers on instagram. Nowhere in post it say that. Plenty of weird dudes out there
Young adult women who post thirst traps are looking to be looked at. Especially if they aren't on a private profile.
It's normal for men of all ages to look at women who consent with open permissions.
Yellz0 and Kaitlyn Krems are not "sex workers," unless you expand the term so broadly so as to include anyone offering titillation, at which point every model and most actors would fall under it as well.
So no, I am specifically not assuming they follow sex workers, I am assuming they follow people who offer titillating content, as expressed.
Ok then. I have no idea who those people are, and like I said, didn't read all that 😂
Well, I do apologize for asking of you the Herculean effort of reading three whole paragraphs.
sorry sir 🥺
Actually you're full of it. I went back and read that and you literally said OnlyFans models. Don't play with me old man
Are Hallie Berry, Drew Barrymore, Alexandria Daddario, Madonna, the singer Pink, or countless other people who have posed for commercial available photoshoots or video scenes "sex workers"?
If no, I'm going to need you to articulate how they aren't but Instagram and non-nude OF models somehow are.
If you're asking whether I class someone posting lewd photographs for money as a sex worker the answer is yes it's not complicated
I believe I specifically asked you to articulate how the people I mentioned aren’t sex workers but Instagram and non-nude OF models somehow are.
At one point, if you explicitly put your body on social media, multiple time, on multiple platforms, that's kind of the expected behaviour no?
Sometimes, i wanna watch porn and sometimes I want to look at women that I find attractive. Does that mean that I have to exclusively watch someone my age?
I much prefer looking at women my age, but let's be real, the older I get, the less I see them on social media.
It's nice to have options.
So an older adult following a bunch of younger people on a porn site is ok?
If someone is looking to do that for sexual purposes then yes that is the appropriate place to do it
You have a strange moral stance where looking at still pictures of boobs is terrible but watching porm is fine. Where do you stand on looking at fully clothed women?!
You think consent is strange?
Don't people consent to other people looking at their pictures when they post them publicly online?
I think that your line of argument is very strange indeed and I'm not sure that porn websites are quite as full of women making choices completely free of coercion as you're making out.
If you had asked me where on the Internet women have the most autonomy, have their preferences enacted most carefully and where their consent was prized, I wouldn't have guessed in a thousand years that you expected me to answer "porn websites".
on normal social media
Probably right…
Looks like this was posted on eX-Twitter though! :)
What's the difference between a porn video and some chick posting their tits on twitter for all to see?
wow way to mansplain the tweet to all of us who just read it
Yw
Lmfaoooo the edit with a meme pandering to himself
Heyyy
This is what peak mansplaining looks like
Is this just a new form of "Who asked?"? I mean, people can still speak out their opinions even if no one asked
That is a rough looking 40.
40 on each leg
Damn, 120 years in total
doesn't look a day over 69
He looks nice.
So 23 on each leg?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ul6mQSO0UA
A tripod huh?
The Sphinx would be proud.
That's the Fart Monster 2k.
He's been telling that story for years
That's because the teenager who actually runs that account has no idea what 40 looks like.
Truly, sometimes the simplest explanation is the truest.
Akhem’s blazer
Alzheimer’s laser
Oppenheimer’s phaser
Einstein's geyser
Judge him all you want but he tells it like it is
I mean fear of the unknown is stronger than fear of the known in most cases.
I know fascism. I know Trump.
And, after enough time, I’ve come to know Harris enough to trust her. And I’m ready to turn the page.
Just knowing she isn't a fascist rapist should be enough.
But she isn't white and is a woman.
Oooo how unknown and spoooooky!! -Republicans
Keep your guard up, pal. Election years are mentally exhausting and when the dust clears you might start seeing things more clearly.
Yes, that's point. If you're not into being eaten then you're thé weird one.
The real post is always in the comments
I, TOO WOULD LIKE PICTURES OF BOOBS IN MY INBOX!
Did that work?
Exactly as well as expected... (It did not.)
Deleted. (Bad taste on my part.)
Ah, going with the reverse psychology method... Good luck, and here's some pussy:
Lol love it. I just removed the comment while you replied. Nice timing
I mean, can't be as bad taste as my comments! 😆
Guess I'm the only one who read her post and thought the wives were the ones following the young Women.
That's a perfectly legitimate way to interpret the text, and might even be true.
Yeah it’s a poorly constructed sentence isn’t it
Ambiguïty increases memetic potential
You're not. But the author of the sentence is not necessarily a contender for Grammarian of the Year.
They mostly are.
Fellow dyslexic ٩( ☉ o⚆)
I’m not an old dude, but I mean these women need that crowd to make money. It’s weird calling them creeps but at the same time they are posting nearly nude photos of themselves publicly on social media. Who do they think is following that content? Physicists at CERN calculating the new gravitation force off of your oversized diaper butt BBL? medical doctors determining the tolerance a 115lb woman with 1000cc of silicone can tolerate? Get real, you’re posting your tits because you know exactly those types of dudes will follow and you can either trick them into giving you money for feet pics or buying you a weekend in Dubai.
These 22 year old “model influencers” will be begging for these old dudes to pay them attention when they hit the wall in 5 years.
Yea, those busted 27 year olds. Wtf
Yeah, they kind of had a point until they busted out the incel-speak at the end.
That "hit the wall" stuff is always hilariously transparent. It's a self-soothe. "She won't be worth it in a few years anyway so you're not missing out."
I'm 38 and the wall where I stop getting unwanted attention sure never seems to come. Which is disappointing. I'm really looking forward to my crone era.
Your comment very much reminds me of an episode of 30 Rock in which Liz Lemon starts dressing like an old crone and acting crazy on the subway to secure a place to sit.
I may need to watch this show.
Highly recommend it, Tina Fey is an icon. Just beware that you'll be quoting her character more often than you'll notice yourself.
So the moral of the story is that boobies are good even after they turn 27?
I have written this before, but I don't think it actually stops. I do not think it's even about looks really. Or at least I'm over 50 and still getting catcalled on my way to work. Fully expect to be 90 and have some kid yell "Lookin' spry, grandma!" at me from a moving car.
Have you started collecting toadstool and eye of newt? How is your mad cackle coming along? Are you behind on setting up your 401crone?
My mad cackle is glorious. The rest... can use some work.
The ones using the wall thing can't even tell how old a woman is anyways. I got told I'll hit the wall once I reach 26 and then I will have regrets. I was already well into my 30s at that time.
At they end? The whole thing is toxic incel red-pilled hate speech.
Is an incel someone who doesn’t white knight for women who couldn’t care less about their own existence? It’s gotten to the point where incel just means “a guy who believes men and women should be equal”. Yeah, I was exaggerating when I was saying 27 but there are tons of women online regretting not taking relationships more seriously when they were in their 30’s.
No, that's not even remotely true, and it's not what your previous comment was saying either.
Incels are essentially misogynists with a sexual fixation. Like classical misogynists tend to be more occupied with women having jobs or holding positions of power, while incels tend to be more upset about women's sexual habits, but both are preoccupied with hating on women they deem to be misbehaving.
I think the part of your previous comment that gave the most 'incel vibes' was the bit about women begging for attention after 'hitting the wall' in their 20s. Maybe you intended it as a comment on women who regretted not taking relationships more seriously in their 30s, but it came off as a sort of fantasy where the women who transgressed your model of how ladies should act get their just desserts.
Lingua franca dude. I've never heard "hit the wall" used outside the man-o-sphere. Maybe not exclusively incel, but incel adjacent at least.
If men only date women below 30 (or 27 apparently??) for their youthful appearance, what incentive do those women have to take dating seriously? Those men won’t stay anyway. This is the main contradiction in incel rhetoric. If you don’t like to look at women past 30, women shouldn’t date you “seriously “ while in their 20s.
It's become a generic insult like re*d or faot was. Or still is for some people. Probably the same crowd. Saying that creepy old dudes are generally mainly interested in younger women and would lose interest as they get older is kinda the point of why they're creepy old dudes. Not an incel thing to say, just how creepy old dudes work.
Apparently have insulted a lot of creepy old dudes
It’s what Decaprio does so…
Dicaprio hasn't been a role model for me since I saw him in basketball diaries and spent the next few years trying to be just like Jim Carroll. Never again Leo. Never again.
Did you go around telling Reggie to put it away?
Sad face. Reggie was a real one
I will say that by 27 creepy old men did stop yelling their attraction at me as I walked down the street, which was nice
Are you sure it was because of your age or was it in respect to your Rank? Unless you were still a Lt. Lezbian at the time. Here's hoping Major is soon!
They certainly were particularly vocal back when I was an ensign
If you're navy captain lezbian I sure hope major is not in your future. Cheers to future admiralty!
Hey bro physicists beat off too.
Too bad that physicists can't afford to be sugar daddies
I can't find where she called them creeps but I think her issue is that they are married.
Are married men not supposed to look at other people's tits now?
You may not be an old dude, but it sure seems like you already hit the wall.
Friend of mine's father, who was seventy at the time, got hit on by an older lady at the grocery store.
Lamenting that he didn't follow it up with her, "she was eighty, but a young eighty, if you know what I mean"
Wall? Gtfo, dumbass
I think you may have misunderstood.
If you're a 22yo "influencer" and your target market is people who follow 22yo influencers then it will be difficult to generate engagement when you're 27.
That doesn't seem that controversial to me, and I don't see how octogenarians getting laid at the supermarket is relevant?
They're mad because you don't simp like they do.
I dont think they generally deny what you are saying
If I were to do that, I'd probably do it for the money. I would get unfaithful followers (hard to pinpoint who because open relationships and other types of relationships exist, but statistically, there would be), and that wouldn't make it any less uncomfortable. I personally hate unfaithful/dishonest partners.
Men looking at boobs doesn't make them unfaithful.
Depends on your relationship
It depends. Some relationships are open to pornography, others aren't. Some are open to sexual intercourse outside their people, but others aren't. It's about consent and agreeing to live in a way that all needs are met.
That's why I said it's hard to know who is betraying their partner and who isn't, because maybe a man or woman or whoever following an erotic/pornographic content creator is not outside what their partner(s) expect, or maybe they are.
Anyway, I do not like people breaking their "contracts" instead of talking them out.
I think the concept of sexual cheating is obsolete and malignant psychological evolutionary flotsam that should be stamped out. That those who wish to reinforce its social presence should be bullied and ostracized for it.
I disagree. Violence is not the answer, and especially not against people that are living in a way that doesn't hurt others. If a couple (or polycule) wants to be sexually exclusive, they have the right to do so, and they do not hurt others because it's not a social imposition for everyone.
Edit: I mean, I understand questioning why we choose it, "deconstructing", as we now call it, but after that, I think it's an intimate matter.
Yes, I only applied as much force and violence as the normative consensus. I mean... not even close since they used to stone adulterers to death so.
I think claims in favour of sexual exclusivity enforcement need to be taken skepticism at minimum but ideally string opposition.
Also need to avoid mote and bailey arguments about this.
Fart monster two k telling it like it is
To Dr. Iver Mectin
🇲🇦‼️ Older men following young women
✅👌 On instagram
Yeah, that's not a red flag
I don’t follow any of them yet they still flood my instagram „search“ tab.
Not that I complain.
Do you get constant targeted ads for devices to keep leaves out of your gutters? All I seem to get are those, belts and fat men t-shirt ads.
The algorithm is working as intended!
I have no gutters and I'm a skinny dude with no ass. Better targeted ads would be roof rakes, pants with a <30 waist and suspenders.
Yes belly old man T-shirts are the worst as I’m working hard on NOT having a belly and this like like saying „fuck you you gonna get it regardless, that’s what algorithm already knows“
I'm 50 and get posts from OnlyFans accounts and advertising for kegels exercises, mixed in with woodworking videos. I blame all the other men out there. No wonder I don't use social media much anymore. I just want to see my friend's and family's pics/vids.
I always find it peculiar and proof of self-hatred that humans are so averse and judgemental about reveling in our sexuality.
It's a major part of who we all are, whether we choose to deny that or not. Cultures and world religions always run by monied interests would prefer we spend our time miserable collecting more for their dragon hoard piles as they live in hyper-decadent debauchery, and most of us have been too fucked in the head with sexual and "don't be laaaazy" shame to be fixable, but humanity would have been so much happier if we spent less time sacrificing ourselves to the God of economic metastasis and more time fucking, especially in an age of birth control.
We might not even have put ourselves on the express lane to self-extinction we're currently careening down in search of more treasure for the masters.
Sex is free, fun, and everyone can do it. We can't have that in capitalism, why would people work for money?
Ouch that stings
This isn't coming from the self, our culture is extremely anti human, anti sexuality (the major cause of human)
Discussion of sexuality is grounds for erasure in most spheres of society. When sexuality is permitted to be depicted, it is almost always in a negative condemning light similar to how's drugs are discussed.
The only valid and acceptable use of sexuality is when its vague reminder is used to sell us garbage like beer and trucks or whatever.
Even the majority of art and artist pretend sexuality is not part of art, unless it's rape.
I don't know what culture you live in, but I think your description of what's embraced by modern culture is at odds with what we see on TV, on Netflix, on YouTube, in magazines, in books, talked about by people everyday.
What is it specifically that you wish you could find that's not available, that you feel ought to be appropriate but isn't, somehow? I'm struggling to figure this one out.
I'm not sure where you are seeing any of that on those platforms. Except as bait or advertising, I see no genuine expression of sexuality and in fact it is explicitely banned on almost all platforms that only pornography depicts it honestly and I mean "honestly" because the vast majority of it is of course fake and vulgar commercial trash.
You can see it with the hot tub twitch stream. The repression is so intense that these little gimmick are the bleeding edge of "showing some midriff in a bikini". That's the state of the discourse for the most extreme elements of culture and beyond that is just an empty meaningless desert.
Love it
I think the issue is, when reveling in your sexuality, everyone involved must consent. It's hard to say whether posting pics of you in revealing clothes is consent for old men to ogle or not. I'd say if you post it publicly, then it should be fine for said old men to respectfully ogle. But if said old men decide to comment something like, "would love to squirtle on those jigglypuffs" on the revealing image, we're suddenly entering nonconsensual territory. So there's a fine line and it's easy to cross. Simply loving looking at boobs on the internet is fine; many women enjoy being admired. But if you take it any further, that's when problems arise. Enjoy your sexuality responsibly, my friends. 💕
Edit: it's both extremely telling and extremely concerning how much my rational take on consent is triggering all these pathetic men.
If you don't want people spreading your images, wanking to your images, making crude comment about your images, oogling your images, etc etc. And I don't mean just nudes, I mean any picture you post...
Then don't post them online.
because once they hit the internet, in any capacity, you've lost all control of them, forever. They will still be there to be discovered when you are lying in a nursing home at 104 years old, Your descendants so far removed that they dont even know your name will still be at risk of stumbling upon them. People on the other side of the planet might use it in advertising or virtual sex dolls without you ever knowing.
You might not like it, you might not want it, you might not consent to it, but its still going to happen.
And if you want it to not happen, don't post things online. Because not posting is the only control you'll ever be able to exert over them.
Whatever you say, really don't care. I don't need some rando to tell me shit I already know.
"I don't care what some rando has to say, now let me go back to posting on the site full of randos talking to eachother. BUT THEY BETTER NOT REPLY TO ME!"
Sorry, I should have said I don't care to be mansplained about basic shit about how posting things on the internet works. You guys are really fucking obnoxious, it's telling how badly my comment about consent set you all off.
Yes. your comment set me off so much that I made a calm, rational response about the dangers of posting online and the lack of control you have over it.
God, someone stop me. Won't someone think of the children?
You regurgitated what a million other jerk ass men already said. I get it. Things on the internet are there forever, it's all the women's fault for posting revealing pics, I mean they were asking for it with the way they were dressed, huh?
Yes yes.
Everyone is the enemy, even if they've no hate or hostility, and have provided nothing but calm and rational discourse.. you won't let that stop you from imagining what they said, so you can be upset about that instead.
Because you must justify being an obnoxious ass about everything, and to everyone, to try and artificially elevate respectful discourse into screaming and skreeeeee-ing, because its the only way you can sustain your perpetual victim complex to justify yourself. Its why you do abhorrent shit like equate basic internet safety that an alarming majority of people don't know or realize in this day and age to rape. Because using rape in this way is a great way to provoke all sorts of responses that you can self-victimize yourself with, over and over again, to wallow in your euphoria of imagined persecution.
Man, you must tell a lot of women online that their titties are bumpin'.
Oh absolutely. Thats all I post.
At least according to someones imagination.
How many times do I have to tell you I don't care about your regurgitated "internet safety" lecture. I already knew and yet you decided to type a whole fucking condescending essay. So, as respectfully and calmly as possible, fuck off.
Seem to care an awful lot, since you are still here being a pissy asshole.
Just cant resist provoking hostility to feed that persecution complex, can you.
See, this is unhinged. You've been antagonizing them this entire time.
You've criticized them for bringing up rape, and yet you just can't seem to leave them alone, can you? Weird.
Some poor sap has come in here just to say something like "McDonald's shouldn't run their coffee machine so god damn hot if it's going to fuse labia together," and you've come in to correct the record: "Hm. Well. Actually, the only safe way to handle hot coffee is not to buy one. I'm very smart." Cool. Thanks, dude. I don't know what that has to do with anything, but I'm glad the abstinence-only sex ed seems to be working for you.
I've literally been sexually assaulted and you set me off too. Maybe you're just a fucking dumbass
Well, as someone who's been through it, I'd really hope you of all people would understand the fucking importance of consent.
I also understand consequences for actions. If it was a private insta page, that's one thing, and I don't necessarily support these men's actions nor would I take them myself, insofar as the thirsty comments, but if I posted a picture of myself that was purposefully sexy publicly, those are the comments I have to be prepared to get. I really don't think your argument holds weight, as the consent is done when they post the image publicly to a place with public comments. That was the choice they made. I think that if somebody's pictures are leaked or something, that's totally different, but just insofar as public forums.... yeah no
So does a woman walking in public wearing revealing clothes deserve to be catcalled? Because that's basically what you're arguing. It's literally victim blaming, why can't men simply be respectful? Why are women made to police themselves?
Are we really equivocating catcalling, in which a woman has immediate and relevant fears for her physical safety, and some gross comments online?
Like when somebody tells me they're gonna rape me in a video game lobby, I don't appreciate their language but I'm not legitimately fearful.
I'd also really think somebody that cares about people wouldn't throw somebody's trauma in their face, fwiw
I don't appreciate people using their trauma as a trump card, fwiw
Wasn't a trump card. Was intended to show you just how ridiculous your line of argumentation was. If I said I'm right because I've been sexually assaulted, that would be different.
If you show your tits to the internet on an open platform anyone can leave comments on, you automatically consent to people looking at your tits and commenting on them.
Until that platform specifically restricts the types of comments you don't like, all you can do is suck it up, buttercup.
So do you get off on being an ass or is it just something that naturally happens?
If someone climbs on a soapbox to spout racist shit, you wouldn't have any problem with random people heckling them.
It's the same with showing your tits online.
If you don't want to attract creepy comments, don't do stuff that attracts creepy people.
"If women don't want to be sexually harassed why do they have boobs?"
It's not just having boobs, quit being a twat.
You missed the point entirely, congrats genius.
Your previous comment shows you completely missed the entire subject of this submission
Didn't realize I was arguing with someone who struggles with reading comprehension. My bad.
Mate you're the one who's too daft to understand the difference between 'havibg breasts' and 'putting pictures on your breasts on social media.'
This isn't even restricted to women. If a guy puts pictures of his cock on the internet, on a public forum everyone can access and comment on, he can't fucking act surprised that some people are going to check out his pics and then comment on them.
You're genuinely dumber than a box of rocks and in contention for the biggest idiot I had the displeasure to interact with this week.
There's still tomorrow, but I doubt anyone could beat you.
Maybe that extremist view of consent is a disease.
Fucking yikes.
Who fucked with your head?
My bad for thinking consent is important, boy am I glad a bunch of men decided to tell me consent is actually bullshit!
That is "all-or-nothing" thinking, nobody here is saying "consent is un important bullshit".
Your initial comment was rational, it was well-thought out and you made a fair point while ending the comment on a positive note. Left alone, I would have upvoted your well-considered opinion and moved on.
However, your follow up responses and your edit were unprovoked ad hominem sexist attacks where you assume everyone who disagrees is a mansplaining penis-wielder whose words have less value than your own. While having your views challenged can be confronting, responding in the manner you are only detracts from your argument.
I would love to know which women are set off by this.
Put something on a public platform = accept that people will look at it. Allow for people to comment on it and you invite these comments. If someone wants to post pictures and not get comments on them, they can post them to a platform that doesn't allow comments.
That's right! Exactly.
For instance, this is public, and if a bunch of random weirdos came in here and started saying things like "whoa, who let the monkey out of his cage?" or "I'm about to put something on his public platform = 1,000 unsolicited dicks," there's absolutely nothing you, or I, can do about that—and it would be wrong to do anything, of course!
You're cool, man, you get it.
There are a non-insignificant number of people in society who can't seem to handle the concept of consent. Then we have an ever growing number of incels awkward enough in relationships and socially that they can't talk about sexual topics without becoming angry and violent.
A lot of our societal taboos about sexuality are trying to keep those people at bay.
It's a mental health problem to be sure and it needs to be handled in society but it is rarely actually worked that way. It's easier in some countries to make women hide away than it is too deal with the men that are out of control.
We really as a race can't revel in our sexuality until we manage to get our morality under control.
You're treating the symptoms as the causes dude. If we had more open discussion about these things I don't think such issues would be as commonplace.
If people understood more of what victims of rape go through, they're much less likely to view consent as a hazy line.
I go to many places where sexuality is celebrated rather than shamed and because of that it's much less of a big deal. At one music festival I went to there were coed communal showers. I was kind of nervous but I headed down. Got in there and everybody was laughing and singing, sudsing each other up with soap, etc. This wasn't because it was some kind of huge orgy, but rather that everybody was comfortable with the nudity and we were having fun together in a totally non sexual way, in my opinion only made possible by the openness everybody had about sexuality there.
We are sexual creatures (except ace people), ain't no two ways about it. Keeping sex taboo does nothing to prevent the problems you're describing. It's like the Islamic extremists who think the only way to protect women is by taking away their rights, making their beauty a taboo, etc. And still, these places have their own problems with rape anyway, so clearly that doesn't work.
I disagree.
I think the reason people may be downvoting you is that this comment has no reason as to why you disagree. I have not btw. I respect disagreement
Yes, those two whole downvotes really make me lose sleep.
I don't really want to get into it because I can see from your replay that you won't be arguing in good faith, but we'll give it one go. If you start moving the goal posts, changing the subject or cherry picking I'll just block you. Defend what you claim in whole or dispute what I say in whole with non-fallcy fact. If you want to argue, we can debate it, but I'm not going to have your cheesing it.
Everything I mentioned is an observation of what humanity does. It's objective, there is sufficient documentation if it happening in court cases and search fodder. Most of your post is opinion about how you feel in your circumstances and poorly thought out enough that I felt it's better written off than addressed, but let's give it a shot.
"You’re treating the symptoms as the causes dude." this is your opinion, you only offer more opinion to back it up. I disagree, cause and effect are sometimes hard to peel apart. You give a starving person bread. You don't give a rapist access to women talking about sex. Giving a rapist free and open access to women isn't going to cure him. (my opinion, free to debate)
"If people understood more" is an opinion and unfounded. Do you have proof for that? I disagree
"I go to many places where " fallacy, your experience isn't everyone's experience. Same goes for your communal showers. How many cases of gang rape and murder happen? Just because communal shows and bathrooms can exist in some places with some people, doesn't mean that it's good for everyone everywhere. (my opinion, free to debate)
"We are sexual creatures (except ace people), ain’t no two ways about it. " this does not support your statement that we should be more open sexually. Just because we replicate sexually does not mean society in whole can handle it. Evolution provided us reproduction, rape and misogyny, cultural enlightenment made those things bad and wrong. We are all enlightened equally and going back to the stone age to have more open sex isn't going to improve that. We can return to it perhaps once we move along socially, but right now, it's just a horror show waiting to happen.
"Keeping sex taboo does nothing to prevent the problems" then why separate pedo's from children? We do it because it works, we do it because if we don't bad things happen.
"It’s like the Islamic extremists who think the only way to protect women is by taking away their rights, making their beauty a taboo, etc. And still, these places have their own problems with rape anyway, so clearly that doesn’t work." - you insinuate it can't be worse without any proof that it makes it better. Because there is a theft in a neighborhood, one can't say the police and laws are useless.
In my opinion, this is the answer, and just being more sexual is not going to do anything but get a lot of people hurt.
I think it's hilarious how you accuse me of arguing in bad faith then purposely misrepresent my argument to make yours look better not even 10 sentences later. I have benn writing a reply to this comment and I really hope you read it when I finish.
After I quit porn, I became more sensitive to the minds and souls of women, and now my sexual attraction can flow to a desire for the women being happy.
This may seem counterintuitive if you have an addiction involving lust, but I am now more completely reveling in my sexuality.
Something tells me she's not a real doctor.
she starts and ends with doctor, she's a double doctor if you will
Well damn, I didn't notice the first time.
I once got an online rectal exam from a Dr. Pepper and he turned out to be fake. I no longer use doctors on twitter
so no twitter doctors anymore and just sticking with Dr. Pepper now?
I am
Well you're a nerd!
YOUR GETTIN MUGGED KID!
Men liking pictures of beautiful women is not weird. I think it's weirder that our economic system incentivizes selling empty sexuality and even emptier engagement from consumers of it.
Men following attractive women. So weird.
Concerning new trend, are these men becoming a new form of boob predators ?
Boobs.
Dopamine receptors that aren't severely down-regulated.
Let people like what they like, whether it's looking at girls online, cosplay, sports, or being an insufferable cunt on social media.
I wish more women in their late 40s showed pictures of their boobs so I can follow them. Because even MILF porn is like women who are maybe 40 most of the time and I'm attracted most to women my age. I just am.
"mature" is the search term you're looking for.
There's precious little of that too. Unless maybe if I want to pay for it. And paying for porn on the internet?
I thinks it's weird when people choose to make their online profiles open to the public then get upset when people view their content.
That's literally the only reason I signed up for Instagram, but over half of my feed has become wholesome videos of people doing arts & crafts, woodworking, cooking, animals, inspiring vignettes, graphic design hacks, and bunch of other things. As cool as those other things are, I just wanted to see boobies.
And one of the weirdest things about Instagram, is that nudity is banned UNLESS the woman is breastfeeding (and a few other scenarios). So this seems to have spawned a weird sort of genre of what appears to be breastfeeding porn, women who are posting nude videos of themselves while breastfeeding, specifically to get around the nudity ban. It's kind of weird and exploitative, I don't really understand why it's allowed (except for educational purposes, but these videos don't seem to meet that bar). It's like, showing breasts is offensive because kids might be able to see nudity and we don't want kids seeing nude women... unless we film the nudity with kids in it, then that magically makes it ok.
Hey Peter, man, check out channel nine! It's the breast exams! Woo!
Siiiigh, sounds like I'm gonna have to join Instagram again...
This is a good bit.
FART MONSTER TWO K
I don’t really see how wives following a bunch of young women is weird, they often socialize quite a bit with each other.
Same answer for why dudes constantly channel flip... looking for boobs.
And why soo many YouTube, Netflix and Amazon prime thumbnails have boobs.
They invented capitalism because boob hoarding was inefficient.
Lol, thumbnail pic of "FartMonster"... that's a real hard 40 years. Dude looks near 70.
I'm practically 40 and that guy looks older than my dad
The maddest of lads
Seems less weird when you put it that way
SWEET GOD BY DEMON DEMON HOW IS THE TEXT COLORED LIKE THAT
It seems people in the comments here missed the "with wives" part. Generally speaking, your wife is not going to be terribly pleased with you ogling or getting off to other women. And violating that is what makes these men count as weird.
So glad my wife is not like that
Mutual agreement "look ok, but no touch" is perfect.
these dudes aren’t weird, they’re sadly very common
Do you think most of these young women wish that these older men would stop following them?
how can i know, im not them
Young woman posts pictures of herself for people to follow and pay for. Older men pay for them. Everybody wins
You almost had it
Why sadly?
They get clicks, their viewers get off, everyone wins.
"...because I objectify young women and I like it."
There's got to be some kind of line between "objectifying young women" and "horny".
I mean, the statement "those young women, or many of them" is already pretty objectifying. But I also question what he can mean. Is it random selfies taken by women? Is it just seeing women's bodies devoid of context and sexualizing them? Because that unquestionably would be objectifying, yeah.
It's describing them. Objectifying would be closer to "Those hot pieces of ass" or something equivalent. Reducing the individual to component parts.
People posting their pictures on blast and then getting angry because you looked at them can seem a bit hypocritical. It's the low-key version of celebrities complaining about being famous.
Women who post their tits on twitter objectify themselves in the first place.
When you make your body a commodity, you can't act surprised when people treat it like one.
How is this downvoted? Dude literally admits to creeping on women's profiles so he can ogle their photos. How is he any different from old school weirdos who would whack it to Sports Illustrated?
This isn't someone admitting to enjoying porn (which is still a problematic industry in itself but that's another, more complex, issue). It is someone admitting to looking at regular photos on women's profiles and fantasizing about their tits.
That's textbook objectification of women.
Hmm
Edit: I just had to edit it, to really hammer home the mockery.
Objectifying women is wrong, but - c'mon. This is the internet, you post pictures of yourself on it and don't know the consequences? That's on you, or your parents if you're below a certain age.
Cause God forbid we expect men to not by misogynist perverts. Women should just cover head to toe and never show themselves in public because "consequences", yea?
Nah fuck that victim blaming mentality. Women should be able to post pictures of themselves online without worrying about perverts objectifying them.
Men need to learn to be better and held accountable for their shitty behavior.
I imagine men will start behaving differently right around the time your head becomes unlodged from your ass.
Showing yourself in public ≠ posting pictures of yourself online. I understand that, for the terminally online, these things are interchangeable. I am sorry to inform you of this, though it's probably valuable that you learn it now, but they are not.
This isn't victim blaming. This is cause and effect.
I think there's a difference between experiencing objectification and being objectified but not knowing.
What's wrong with whacking it to sports illustrated? Who is being harmed?
Your thoughts are dirty and you should feel ashamed you disgusting sinner!
Or something, idk they might as well be religious
Oh, look, a straw feminist. Haven't seen one of those in awhile.
This is what peak mansplaining looks like. She didn't ask a question and I'm sure she already knows the why.
Heterosexual men want to look at boobs. If she thinks this is “weird,” I feel she needs something explained to her.
So do yourself and FartMonster2k not know about PornHub, or...?
An older adult following a bunch of much younger people on normal social media for sexual purposes is 100% weird.
How old do you think the women on pornhub are? What makes them more acceptable to look at over the women on instagram? I mean if we're talking about dudes perving on private social media accounts of 15 year olds, yeah of course that's fucked up. But that isn't at all the implication I got here, rather I assumed he's talking about OnlyFans models and other young women (not girls) who are offering their looks as a product, like Yellz0 or Kaitlyn Krems. In that case, this is extremely normal, and not really any different than the nearly 100 years of Hollywood; or did you assume the beautiful young starlets were only meant to appeal to their age peers (despite being cast and promoted by primarily older men)?
Hollywood, magazines, art, sales catalogues, and pornography; they are all selling the sexual appeal of young adulthood. And so long as the men and women being gazed at are willingly and consensually offering the display of their body, and they're of legal and intellectual ability to consent, then nobody is being wronged here, and nobody is behaving abnormally. These women deserve respect (as do the women on pornhub, to be clear; I'm still trying to understand what separates the two entities to you), and stepping over established boundaries, personal or social, is not okay obviously, but assuming the caveats I've outlined, I see nothing disrespectful about buying what somebody is willfully selling.
As for the age gap.... look, we can pretend to be this perfectly evolved species of always equitable and simple moral choices while ignoring literally the whole of human history which heavily implies an attraction in humans to young adulthood that doesn't seem to wean with age, or we can accept reality for what it is, warts and all. Personally for me, I just don't see how infantilizing young adults as if they are helpless children in need of constant coddling and viewing every relationship as an inherent competition of power and experience where any imbalance implies irreconcilable differences benefits us as a society.
I appreciate you bestie but I ain't reading all that
Okay, I'll try to make it more appropriate for you. Ahem:
Why woman sell sex on pornhub okay, but women sell sex on instagram bad?
Also human think young adult sexy. Always, but also now.
Not op, but imma be honest with you, I'm currently drunk at an airport bar and I appreciate the absolute fuck out of this tldr
I appreciate you, my drunk friend.
You assume they're following sex workers on instagram. Nowhere in post it say that. Plenty of weird dudes out there
Young adult women who post thirst traps are looking to be looked at. Especially if they aren't on a private profile.
It's normal for men of all ages to look at women who consent with open permissions.
Yellz0 and Kaitlyn Krems are not "sex workers," unless you expand the term so broadly so as to include anyone offering titillation, at which point every model and most actors would fall under it as well.
So no, I am specifically not assuming they follow sex workers, I am assuming they follow people who offer titillating content, as expressed.
Ok then. I have no idea who those people are, and like I said, didn't read all that 😂
Well, I do apologize for asking of you the Herculean effort of reading three whole paragraphs.
sorry sir 🥺
Actually you're full of it. I went back and read that and you literally said OnlyFans models. Don't play with me old man
Are Hallie Berry, Drew Barrymore, Alexandria Daddario, Madonna, the singer Pink, or countless other people who have posed for commercial available photoshoots or video scenes "sex workers"?
If no, I'm going to need you to articulate how they aren't but Instagram and non-nude OF models somehow are.
If you're asking whether I class someone posting lewd photographs for money as a sex worker the answer is yes it's not complicated
I believe I specifically asked you to articulate how the people I mentioned aren’t sex workers but Instagram and non-nude OF models somehow are.
At one point, if you explicitly put your body on social media, multiple time, on multiple platforms, that's kind of the expected behaviour no?
Sometimes, i wanna watch porn and sometimes I want to look at women that I find attractive. Does that mean that I have to exclusively watch someone my age?
I much prefer looking at women my age, but let's be real, the older I get, the less I see them on social media.
It's nice to have options.
So an older adult following a bunch of younger people on a porn site is ok?
If someone is looking to do that for sexual purposes then yes that is the appropriate place to do it
You have a strange moral stance where looking at still pictures of boobs is terrible but watching porm is fine. Where do you stand on looking at fully clothed women?!
You think consent is strange?
Don't people consent to other people looking at their pictures when they post them publicly online?
I think that your line of argument is very strange indeed and I'm not sure that porn websites are quite as full of women making choices completely free of coercion as you're making out.
If you had asked me where on the Internet women have the most autonomy, have their preferences enacted most carefully and where their consent was prized, I wouldn't have guessed in a thousand years that you expected me to answer "porn websites".
Probably right…
Looks like this was posted on eX-Twitter though! :)
What's the difference between a porn video and some chick posting their tits on twitter for all to see?
wow way to mansplain the tweet to all of us who just read it
Yw
Lmfaoooo the edit with a meme pandering to himself
Heyyy
Is this just a new form of "Who asked?"? I mean, people can still speak out their opinions even if no one asked
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