What smartphones are people using nowadays?

flashgnash@lemm.ee to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world – 120 points –

My phone's just bitten the dust and now I need to look for a new one again.

Thought I'd test the waters and see what kinds of phones people on here are using nowadays and what for, what features set them apart if any etc

Bonus points if anyone's managed to get mainline linux running on them either via KVM or bare metal

Edit: Thanks for everyone who talked about their choices of phone, I am now writing this on a fairphone 4 and am quite happy with it so far.

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Lemmy users be like: I built my own phone

Any smartphone, they're not that different and all have the same weaknesses. They're pretty fragile, don't have battery-life and they have lots of bloat and functionality that's gate-kept behind sign ups and cloud accounts

The biggest difference is whether you can run a custom rom or it's locked down.

any special model that you prefer?

Pixels (at least ordered from Google) allow you to unlock the bootloader without any exploits, so they normally have the best ROM support

GrapheneOS is where a lot of the security work that ends up making it to other Android devices starts

CalyxOS is a good option for more support for standard Google Play apps

LineageOS is the original big ROM, but I think last time I checked, you couldn’t reenable the secure boot chain

GrapheneOS has better gplay support than calyxos

Thanks for the correction - I’ve been using enough different ones that my information might have been out of date there

Only if you ever buy the popular models.

Get yourself a rugged device, made for enterprises. They tend to be a bit more costly, but they aren't fragile, they have great battery-life (although usually low specs to make that work), have no bloat and don't require a sign up or even cloud.

Like the Unihertz Tank for example, or the Ascom Myco. Or the Bittium Tough Mobile 2 if you want extra secure.

Wow I misread the battery capacity on the unihertz tank and was like when was 2000mAh last a big battery? It's 20 000 mAh. Also there's a Tank2 with only 15 500 mAh.

don't have battery life

I have a Fold 5 with a snapdragon 8gen2. I have "light performance mode" on at all times, and deep sleep most apps that I rarely use, and get 8 hours SOT. The 8g2 phones are definitely worth getting for battery life

That's not even that good.

In normal scenarios, I get 10h SOT, with 12h in battery saver mode.

Although I do drop to 5h SOT when using it for GPS map logging while on my motorcycle.

I'm using a Pixel 6, mostly because I like stock android. Not spectacular compared to their previous phones though, notably they used to be the only major company that still had headphone jacks, but that is no longer the case.

I have a 6a. Same deal. Terrible battery life honestly. I wish I could find a phone that could stay up to date and I can replace the batteries...

I will say though I had to replace the screen after completely obliterating it and it was shockingly easy, at least as far as modern smartphones go.

The good thing about the pixel line seems to be that the repairs are supported in most local places or ifixit thats for sure. I had a terracube before. Do not recommend!

Are the newer pixels any better? I have a pixel 4 that I’d like to upgrade at some point but it seems like everything else would be a downgrade for what I want.

Good battery life under load, wireless charging, and NFC are the only things I want. A low end phone with a potato for a CPU would be plenty but none of them have wireless charging AND NFC. They’ve started to have one, or the other, but not both.

Im not sure. Looks like the 6a would not be a good fit for you: https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/does-google-pixel-6a-have-wireless-charging/

Oh yeah I forgot about that. I think the 7a or 8a added it but I haven’t heard favorable things about their battery life either.

Well my 4 still does the job. Screen burn is pretty minimal and I’m doing my best to manually keep it at bay. If its battery blows up at least the back isn’t even glued on properly so I can replace it again.

6a here too. At least the battery holds long when the phone is barely used. Idle standby is great compared to my outdated Xcover from before.

If you live in the US and want something on a budget, I recommend last year's Moto G Stylus 5G (the 2023). You can find it for around $250. For the price, you get:

  • More than adequate performance, especially at this price point (Snapdragon 6 Gen 1).
  • Adequate RAM (6GB)
  • Lots of storage (256GB)
  • Decent cameras (50MP + 8MP UW)
  • Great display (120Hz FHD+ IPS LCD)
  • Great battery life
  • Headphone jack(!)
  • MicroSD slot(!!)

Damn, that does sound pretty good. Is the OS pretty close to stock?

Can depend a bit on your carrier but yeah pretty close. Only issue is the security updates can be infrequent. I love Motorolas as work phones though, the twist motion to turn on the camera and the chop motion for the flashlight are super convenient for an IT guy doing lots of rummaging

Chop motion for flashlight and twist for camera is amazing. I wish I knew how to implement this on a non-Moto phone. It's gonna be painful switching away at some point.

There are a few apps that let you do motion shortcuts, the issue I've found with them is that for whatever reason the apps consume inordinate amounts of battery waiting for the motion while the Motorola implementation seems to have no real energy issue.

I remember having issues with the chop motion once and my coworkers looking at me like I'm crazy.

Not my fault y'all settle for inferior products 😤

Now let me continue hacking at the air with my fragile handheld computer.

I'm at my 3rd moto atm. A slightly outdated g31. It came with Android 11 and only recently 2 years after I bought it, it got the 12 upgrade. Still gets regular security patches.

Next the apps installe by Motorola (where I mean by optional that you can deactivate them, not uninstall). None of these apps are in the top 12 in the battery usage statistics and most of them are activated.

Moto App (117MB, optional)

A tutorial center with "kurzgesagt" like animations e.g. for gestures. A selection of shortcuts to settings for customizing your device and Motorola QOL settings.

Moto Actions and Gestures (20MB, optional)

Enables the gestures (has no other brand a shaking flashlight gesture or has Motorola patented it?).

Moto App Launcher (4MB)

The Motorola specific desktop customization. I don't know how close it is to the Pixel stock image but it doesn't get in my way.

Moto AI Services (whopping 200MB, optional)

The reviews for this service are scalding. I'm honestly not the biggest fan of having AI on my phone that's not in my control. Two reviewers point out, that it probably isn't very invasive AI and rather used for QOL features, like the shaking flashlight feature.

Moto Feedback (31MB, optional)

Helps the user sending feedback (bug-reports and memory-dumps?) to Motorola. Again smotheringly bad reviews. Never had to do with it or used it knowingly. Can be deactivated.

Motorola notifications (88MB, optional)

Again some furious reviews. Double edged sword as it's used to send news about updates but also push ADs. But the latter isn't very spammy. Just every few weeks or month a push notifications about a new moto. That's about the only place where I would see ADs (apart from regular apps).

Buy a refurbished or new in box flagship phone from a couple years ago. I paid like 1400$ for a Sony Xperia 1 III but now 2 years later it's like 500$, refurbished with a warranty. It's great value considering most phones brands don't change much in only 2 years and you still get a pretty cutting edge device.

good advice, i bought Moto G100 when it was about 3 years old and antutu benchmark is around double what my friends have for a similar price (Samsung A series)

Redmi Note 9 Pro with LineageOS 18.1 (Android 11).

Stay away from Xiaomi's phones if you plan to use the stock MIUI Android they come with. My SO has a stock Redmi Note 11S and MIUI is the biggest piece of bloated instrusive shit that I have ever seen on a phone.

Agree. I have a POCO F5 and, while it is not as awful as you say, it still sucks.

However, I flashed a custom ROM on my so's Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite, and that android experience is just bliss.

Galaxy S10. Still rockin the headphone port.

S10e here, and...I'm not looking forward to giving it up, because I don't want a phone worse than this and they all are.

For me it's the vertical size, fits perfect in my hand and almost all newer phones are longer.

Mine replaced an S4 Mini. My S10e is still borderline too big IMHO and I'm unaware of anything currently on the market any smaller.

Ah I miss my S10 . It died end of last year, I was hoping to get a few more years out of it. I forgot I had already had the battery replaced and dropped it in water :(

Just switched from an iPhone XR to a 15 pro. Hope to get another 4+ years out of it.

I only switched because my SUV’s CarPlay and wireless charger turned the XR into a no-working hot plate after an hour. The 15 pro still gets as hot but doesn’t seem to shut down. I blame ford.

Nah, wireless charging in general is to blame here - they heat up batteries a ton, and that can kill the battery faster.

If you keep using your Pro with it, expect the battery to deteriorate quickly.

Somebody should start putting TECs in the wireless chargers. Even 10 watts of cooling would probably make a difference.

MagSafe/qi 2 + PPS should fix that. It’s actually tolerable to wirelessly charge my phone and do anything with it.

But it’s still going to get pretty hot if you’re doing wireless CarPlay/AA. Even wired CarPlay it will get warm.

Pixel 7, but for me I always look for a phone with stock Android and a good camera. Usually any of the Google Pixel phones covers that well.

I am on an iPhone 12 mini, I expect to keep it for another two or three years.

There are VNC and SSH apps in the appstore for Linux access.

iPhone XS Max here, and I’m astounded at how fast it still is after five years. Battery lasts all day, too.

I’m contemplating upgrading due to USB-C and 120hz, but I have no other reason to at the moment. The longevity of this bitch is mindblowing.

Yep, I used my iPhone 6S far longer than I expected.

I get that plenty of people dislike Apple and iOS, I am no super fan of Apple, but credit to them where it is due, they make phones that last for a long time.

People HATE Apple products here, but I loooove iOS. I fuck around all day on my Linux and Windows machines, I want zero fuck-around-ing on my phone.

I want a great big button that says “MAKE INCREMENTAL ENCRYPTED BACKUP: THE BUTTON”.

I want 50k photos and videos and every text I’ve ever received to not slow my phone down after years of not reformatting.

When I get a new phone, I want to plug it into my computer and immediately have it be the exact same phone as my previous phone.

Yep, I am an IT guy, I just want my phone to work, and so far iOS has been perfect for me.

I love iCloud backups it just works.

I feel that—I find that’s the case for most of my IT friends.

I’d love to use iCloud backups, but I have some… sensitive stuff on my phone, so I stick to local encrypted backups hahaha

I also have some stuff I'd prefer to backup locally, so I have disabled iCloud backups for most of my apps and only really use it for core iOS features, like settings, texts, contacts, and local photo gallery.

Anything else is either manually backed up me or stuff I don't care about.

All my weird stuff is in photos, but I couldn’t back up 50k photos to iCloud if I tried hahaha

People here just irrationally hate apple, not even just their products. Like yesterday there was a person who was just literally making stuff up to dunk on them. I tried to set them up for a home run (and they could have scrolled down just a little bit for all the info they needed) but the best they could come up with was a feeling they had.

0 though, just irrationally angry.

That’s very in line with what I see here. Very sad, for a group of tech minded individuals. All of my IT friends use Linux desktops and Apple phones because at the end of the day, they don’t wanna fuck with their basic communication/photo device.

My dad has been using my old 6S until recently. We bumped him up to a 8 I recently quit using.

Currently I’m using an 11 Pro. Great phone.

USB C is the only reason I upgraded to a 15 pro. I’d still be on my iPhone 6s until this phone if it wasn’t for getting each upgrade for stupid cheap from friends.

What are you gonna do when your battery goes to shit?

Replace it? So far it is fine.

I have an iPhone SE that’s 2 years old and my battery lasts like 6 hours without use. Can you replace a battery?

iFixit has guides for it so yeah, looks like it

I'm currently using a Samsung S21, but once this thing eats it I'm done with Samsung. I'm sick of the OS updating and installing 6-7 garbage programs on my device without my consent.

I'm going to get a Nokia G42, just buy it outright and be done with the payment plan model. Nokia actually teamed up with iFixIt so I can do service on my own phone without needing to go through Verizon. Easily replaceable battery so I can buy an extra one and have it for when I'm traveling. SD card slot! Headphone jack!! And it's only like 1/4 the cost of a flagship.

It also runs vanilla Android.

But problematic, that the bootloader isn't unlockable.

Edit: on the nokia

As an only part-time semi-nerd, I'm not too concerned with that. I'm sure if I started playing with the root I would probably brick my Nokia (damn, nice pun??)

Still holding onto my Samsung Galaxy Note9

It has an excellent built-in stylus with a headphone jack and expandable storage to boot. Nothing that's come out since feels like an upgrade, only various sidegrades.

The Note 9 was the perfect phone. Hold onto it for as long as it will run! I got a Pixel 7 Pro after mine died. It was a real downgrade. Got the s24 Ultra this year, and it's actually quite nice. Probably the closest thing to the Note 9 these days.

I use a pixel 8. If you care about security or privacy, GrapheneOS simply has no substitute.

Battery life lasts about a day and a half. Performance is solid, camera is solid, and it has an AMOLED for active display.

CalyxOS is a great substitute and doesn't have a sus developer.

sus developer

Linky?

Oh boy, that is one spicy topic. You could start here.

In short: The lead dev (who stepped down, but may be back again?) is involved in some controversy.

While I can fully understand why somebody wouldn't trust the OS based on that, it's still the most secure and private OS available today IMHO.

It might be a good substitute for some. Some features like contact and storage scopes are missing, and IMO they’re pretty cool Overall just worse privacy and security compared to Graphene

I might cave and get the 8, but I'm holding out for news on the 8a

Very understandable. My 8 was $550, but honestly I think it's overkill in some ways. I'd like to see what concessions are made on the 8a.

Bought myself a Pixel 6 used a whole back. Been very happy with it

I hear a lot of good things about the older pixels, but they only have a couple years of security updates left and a couple months of android updates so it doesn't feel like a smart decision to buy them now

They don't have less security updates than other brands. Plus you can always install a custom ROM to keep getting updates afterwards.

LineageOS or GrapheneOS are perfect for these and dont rely on google play services eating your data and battery.

Yup. That's exactly what I was thinking

Pixel 6 Pro with Graphene Os. You have to make a few concessions when it comes to ease of use, but the privacy and security is top notch.

Still using my Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra, for me it's perfect.

Continues to be up to date, hardware and software wise.

Moi Aussi! I can't believe this was the one that got me to stop phone hopping..

Pixel 4a. Was the only smaller phone at the time except for one of the Samsung ones but I'd rather have stock Android than the bloated crap from Samsung. Not a fan how big smartphones have gotten.

Same here. It's a great size. Probably going to hold on to it as long as possible. Keep being disappointed that newer pixels keep getting bigger.

I'm on the Samsung A54 right now. I had one too many times using Google devices which decided to suddenly die on me (Nexus 5x, Google Pixel 4a) and Internet mummers seem to hint that newer Pixel devices seem to be continuing that same lack reliability. I have an older Samsung tablet that is still working (better described as something that just won't die) so I decided to try the Samsung world of things to see if I can get the reliability I desire. So far, so good.

Curious about the Google device issues? The Nexus 5x worked great until it just died for good one night. The Pixel 4a worked great until it "turned off" at night making me miss all my alarms and requiring me to turn it back on. Now it is a coin toss if it will stay on overnight or just turn off for no reason making me miss all alarms. Apparently it can turn off when you are not using it which is a bit concerning for a device that should receive phone calls and sound alarms...

Unfortunately... Samsung is the only "normal" choice compared to others in my country... Other brands shipped adware, or just straight up shows ads on lock screen. I'm not joking. Samsung does it too unfortunately, though not as aggressive. Also I noticed after the year 2020 their midrange model has gone worse.

I miss Sony Xperia. I wish they didn't leave my country.

You might ask on c/android if you're not after an eyephone. I now use a Motorola G Stylus 5G 2023, good value at $250 imho. Big screen, fast compared to what I'm used to, good battery life, battery apparently not too hard to replace, headphone jack, SD slot, NFC, 256GB flash, 6GB ram, decent cameras (main, front, and wideangle macro, no telephoto). The main missing "flagship" features that I can think of are wireless charging and USB-C video out. Main complaint everyone has is too few software updates, but meh. I would probably buy this again if I needed another phone right now. The pen (stylus) isn't great but it is handy for poking small UI elements or typing when I'm tired, so I use it more than I expected to. Samsung's S pen is supposed to be better though.

Heads up: the 2024 version of the entry level model (G Play) is out and it's an ok upgrade to the 2023 version, but they removed the SD slot, which makes me wonder if they will do the same in the other models. With 256GB on board I guess the card is less important than before, but it is nice.

The cheapest piece of shit Samsung make because I break phones. I work outdoors in all weathers and I use my phone alot. I go through on average one a year and I dont want a broken or lost phone to ruin my month.

I also work outside and am extremely rough on phones. I got a Galaxy s21 when they came out, Have not broken it in like 3 years

I can get behind that, that's kind of the direction I'm leaning in too.

I tend to go the other way with that and buy the tougher phones so they last me a bit longer though, I'd rather pay 600 every 3 years and have a somewhat nicer phone than 200 every 1 year and have to put up with a crappy one

???

"Alot" doesn't exist, it's always "a lot". Above meme depicts an imaginary animal, the alot, in order to make the difference clearer.

To the people who treat that as a hard and fast rule, I wonder what opinion they hold of the word "another."

I guess they would think that an other and another have different meanings, like car pet and carpet

Car pet… is this petting a car or having a car as a pet. :)

Edit: or petting someone with a car

Or a pet for the car. The precision of the English language, ladies and gentlemen.

What does "an other" mean that "another" doesn't?

Give me another apple. (Another: one more of the same)

We regret to inform you that we chose an other candidate. (An other: a different one)

But the form "an other" is extremely rare, most likely because it is confusing in spoken language.

I don't think I've seen that usage, "...an other candidate." They'd either just use "another" or there would be a verbal ellipsis, like "We chose an...other candidate." Or they'd just say "a different candidate."

What wrong with another

Nothing, that's my point. It's a fusion of the words "an other" which is a phrase used in English so frequently that it became its own word, "another."

People are fine with that but they treat "alot" like it's a problem.

Alot

I get that, but I didn't use a lot or alot in my comment. Did you reply to the wrong person?

I tried that once, but that one got lost and I was like "Yep, cheap shit it is"

Honestly the worst samsung A series shits from great heights on cheap off brand phones. They do pretty much everything I want except the whole tap to pay thing.

Unfortunately tap and pay is the one feature keeping me from using custom roms/rooting/linux. Very much like having multiple options incase my card doesn't work, forgotten my wallet etc

Get a Samsung S series FE (or Fan edition). They are usually cheaper versions of the flag ships with the same features but slightly lower specs.

I had two Caterpillar CATphones before. It was awesome. One of them had an infra red camera and was waterproof down to 5 meters.

They were a bit on the slow side, but they sure could take abuse

Did you use the infrared camera? How was the experience?

It was very low-res, but useful for finding where the cat threw up :p That was a regular use for it actually.

Other than that, it was fun to play with.

Sounds fun! I want to get one next time but it's not available in my country so I need to figure when I travel next!

I'm a Pixel fan. Between the whole family, I think we have almost every generation.

I use a Fairphone 4 running Murena's e/os. The experience has been pretty good so far. I haven't needed to repair the phone yet but it's nice to know I have the option. The os doesn't have any quirks I can't live with. I like their app store, it gives every app a privacy score based on what logging it has and permissions it uses.

I have just bought myself a second hand fairphone 4. Not on eos, I might switch but Google pay contactless is important to me and I don't believe it works on custom ROMs

Can confirm, I just tried to install Google pay and it said I couldn't use it because I was running a custom ROM.

I found the sweet spot on the Samsung A34. It has the things I want, but it isn't flagship expensive and it has guaranteed 4 years of updates plus another year of support.

I have Motorola something because I'm poor. Though, one good thing about Motorola phones is that they're durable as all hell.

Motorola Moto G Stylus 5G 2022

Don't care about the stylus. Bought it for the features and the value. $250 for a 120hz screen, headphone jack, expandable storage, and nearly 3 days of battery life. I carry all my music on a micro SD. It's been a great phone and my only complaint is the camera. I think the sensors are good it's just moto's camera app, and the obscurity of the model makes it very difficult to find a fully working port of GCam.

Been using the 2023 version of the Moto G Stylus 5G for a few months now and I've got similar things to say. Motorola has built a fairly good mid-tier product here. Camera could be better, but it's got a headphone jack, a good screen, and very good battery life. Only other problem is, again because of the obscurity of the model, screen protectors are easy enough to find, but cases have been another matter. Had to take a Dremel to one so the hole would line up with the headphone jack. Otherwise this has been a good daily driver smart phone.

Oh, and I do use the stylus from time to time... compared to high end devices (like Samsung's Galaxy S lines) it's not as responsive and there's the occasional misclick, but it's not bad. That's the rating I'd give the experience with the phone overall: not great but certainly not terrible... 7/10 does most of what it says it'll do.

I have this model and the stylus doesn't do it for me. The latency is just too high compared to an Apple Pencil, S Pen, or ReMarkable stylus.

Yeah. I'm not using it for like graphic design or even scribbling notes. Just clicking on things and scrolling or swiping.

Fairphone because I want it to last 5+ years without any annoying repairs.

Same. Broke my screen last year and replaced it myself with a simple screwdriver.

Galaxy S24 Ultra. I got really pissed off at the Pixel 7 Pro and bought this on a (very costly) whim. But this is the first phone I really like since the Note 9. The screen is gorgeous. The software is better than stock android on the Pixel. And it can actually make phone calls!

Samsung Galaxy Z fold 4. I got it for a good price and just wanted to see what folding phones were like. It's pretty awesome. Just hope the durability holds up for a few years.

I got the fold 5. Two weeks ago it dropped out of my pocket (folded) as I got off a regular bus and dropped 3 feet right onto road asphalt. I had a tempered glass screen protector on both the front and back, and have absolutely zero damage other than 2 tiny dings on the aluminum frame, and had to replace the front screen protector as that one was cracked badly. The front screen had no damage after peeling off the screen protector, and the inner screen has no damage whatsoever. Cameras are also undamaged and the phone seems to have no internal damage. I personally vouch for the durability of the Fold 5 :)

I'm running this. My friend got the original Fold, and she kept using it until the Fold5 came out and got that one. She still has the original and it's in good condition, so that bodes very well.

So far I like the Fold4. The big screen is nice for videos or even normal use (I have it open as I type this), but the small screen is fine for when you just need to see the time or something, and it fits in my pocket even better than the s2x ultra or whatever did.

Edit: typo

I did see a couple of surprisingly cheap foldables on ebay, but I'm still somewhat wary of foldables and I ended up finding a fairphone 4 for a pretty good price

I still have the pixel 6 pro, I want it to last until at least a pixel 10. I treat it like an appliance, I'm done with custom roms

I have my old oneplus 6 on my desk as a postmarketOS test device

I got a seconhand Samsung S22+.

Great size (my last phone was too small), battery good, performance is great, screens good. Everything is good.

But the camera is meh. I'm really disappointed by that and I don't know what to do. Sure it's an upgrade on my 5 year old cheaper Chinese phone. But I thought it was meant to have a great camera, the default setting are some shitty Instagram looking ai filter where the sky is the bluest blue much darker than reality, grass is some glowing bright green it looks like a fucking video game. I managed to fix a lot of that but it's still meh, night mode is fairly bad too.

If you care about a natural looking camera, I suggest either going into manual mode, getting a different camera app, or getting a Sony Xperia phone. Samsungs are known for having spruced up shots out of the box.

Oneplus have paired with Hasselblad, if you're looking for something with a good camera. I regret the phone because the quality has gone downhill over the generations but the camera is on point

One plus was the best phone I ever had. I regret on getting it last time.

I looked into it this time but everyone said oneplus is shit now.

My 2 was amazing, it lasted me years and worked so well with minimal bloat. I went for the 10pro this time and it's not the same. The camera's phenomenal but it's now two years old and just not holding up well. Glitches like crazy and the battery's starting to die. Can't distinguish it from any other phone now

I got a samsung galaxy s23 ultra. Battery and stylus are dope, camera is fun to use, but it's slightly too big.

LG G8X from 2019. Bought it used last year for a 100€ with the second display case. It runs circles around any modern budget options.

I have a pixel 6 pro, but I wouldn't recommend it. You'd think Google is capable of providing a perfect Android experience, but my old Note 9 was way less buggy.

I've had lots of issues with 3rd party launchers (nova), I can't even use the USBC with a dongle and second screen (my old Note could do this without issues). Also this is my first phone without headphone jack and SD slot, both I really miss. Just in general the software (especially in the beginning) felt really buggy with small glitches etc.

I don't think I'll ever go pixel again.

The pixel six was not good. I use a pixel 7a and it solved a lot of the issues the 6 had. Also the pixel 8 is doing good in reviews.

I chose a Moto G Stylus 5G (2022) over a Pixel 6a at the exact same price due to the reliability issues of the Pixel.

I disagree, I've been using a pixel 6 for about 2 years with zero issues.

You can disagree all you want. The pixel six had many issues that are well cataloged. I'm happy you haven't experienced any of those issues yourself but a great many people did.

Galaxy A32. It no longer receives software updates, but still gets security updates. It works fine for me.

Jelly Star.

I don't like big phones. I just wish this one was a little thinner. The Jelly Pro was a perfect size, but it didn't have the performance to really be a functioning device. 😔

I use a Gigaset GS5 from Germany. Runs stock android has USBC, 3.5m audio jack, replaceable battery, dual Sim cards, and a SD card slot. Yea, 3 card slots. not those crappy dual SD/Sim card slots.

Gigaset os still a thing. I didn't know.

Just bought a Galaxy s20+ ultra refurbished a couple of months ago. Only cost like 300 and had comparable specs to the current $1500 phones.

Wife has to have apple and I couldn't bring myself to buy her refurbished for her birthday... bit the bullet and got an iPhone that was 1 or 2 generations old, still cost like 800-900.

ZenFone 10, because it's one of the now rare phones where you can still reach the whole screen with one hand.

Maybe you just need bigger hands.

Maybe I should try and convince someone to make a slip on thumb extension for use with modern phones

A Librem 5. It's exactly what i want, a small desktop PC with modem in it.

get an empty can with some wire attached, connect a second can to the end of the wire and provide your intended contact with said second can.

Perfect, I'll never need to worry about it running out of battery on me

I have an iPhone 11 Pro. It’s a few years old now, but still gets updates and is still quick enough. However, the battery is fading pretty quick and Apple has made replacement inconvenient at best. I’m going to order a DIY battery kit that will hopefully take care of that, otherwise it’s gonna be replacement time.

Pixel 7 because oft grapheneOS. As all Smartphones are pretty much the same because we reached a plateau, the only thing differentiating them is how easy it is to install another OS.

Xperia 1 II

Has every feature I want in a smartphone without compromise.

I have a 5 I, but I really don't like the 21:9 Aspect ratio of modern Sony phones

Poco X3 Pro.

It was very cheap (€188) with a powerful SoC. Though it does come with a caveat: reliability. I knew about this issue since I decided to buy it. It already had motherboard replaced in-warranty not once, but twice. But since I knew about this, I had backups already, so I lost just moderate amount of data. The biggest one was Termux stuff which I forgot to backup since I explicitly excluded the Android folder. Then all the apps, since there's no way to back it up without root.
I mean, the software is also quite buggy, but oh well, I can work around it.

Hardware wise, the mentioned SoC (Snapdragon 860), FM radio, headphone jack, IR blaster, 120Hz IPS LCD (I do not want *LED due to permanent burn-ins.), 5200mAh battery, easy to open (the back cover is soft plastic, so you can just rip it off without breaking anything, then glue it back).

Though now I am also looking at the idea of PinePhone.

Next time I'll probably take something with MediaTek SoC instead, due to MTK engineer mode (*#*#3646633#*#*) due to changes by my carrier. Specifically, I am looking at the band-lock feature.

im still on a pixel 3a

Same, but I sadly upgraded to the latest Android version because of a boot loop and things are not as snappy as they used to be. Also hangs sometimes.

iPhone 13 Pro. Will probably keep it until the 16 Pro later this year maybe, or I might go another year. Nothing wrong with it so far, I mostly just want a type-C connector for convenience at this point

Recently got myself a Pixel 7a and it's been a great experience.

Fairphone 5 with iodéOS. Its perfect for me

I love the idea of fairphones but from what I've gathered they're kinda crap for the price if you don't count the moral benefits aren't they?

Do they do video over USB C/thunderbolt? Am quite interested in having a device I can plug in and use as a desktop in a pinch

They do displayport over usb c I think. I almost got one a few months ago, or a pixel, but choked at the cost. Ended up with a Motorola Edge 40 and while it's fine, I wish I'd just spent a bit more and got a phone I actually wanted.

I've been thinking about Fairphone, but the 5 isn't available in the US to my understanding, unfortunately, and the 4 is a serious downgrade spec-wise.

I would be happy if Fairphone would sell to my country.

Galaxy Fold 3, incredible phone, Dex is fantastic, brilliant for viewing things on larger screens so it's much easier to view.

Battery life is atrocious though, I charge it 3 times a day

I have a fold3 as well, personally have found the battery life to be fine. Maybe because my previous phone was 6 years old when I switched so I had low standards for battery. Although, I definitely don't need to charge 3 times a day.

If nobody else had said fold3, I was gonna post: I have a fold3 and I love it. I can see how people could see it as a dumb gimmick, but for me it can legitimately function as my main portable media device (ebooks, internet, keeping notes, video content, sudoku, emulated games if I attach a controller, showing people pictures, etc) in a way that a regular phone would feel way too cramped for, while also just fitting in my pocket so I can take it everywhere without a second thought - which would be a much bigger pain with a regular tablet. It's just really nice having a full-sized book in my jeans pocket in a waiting room, as a painless part of my "everyday carry".

Downside (for me) is people sometimes see me fold/unfold it and want to start a conversation about how weird it is, when I'm an extreme introvert and just wanted some silent device time. I guess this might be an upside for extroverts, but then they might be less interested in being glued to a large pocket-screen in the first place.

I have a Flip 5! Got it for the form factor and it just looks cool lol. I enjoy it.

I have a Galaxy Fold 2 and it's pretty sweet. Mine doesn't have the battery issues you mentioned for your 3, though. I guess if I'm watching videos for a few hours, THEN I definitely need to charge it, but otherwise a single charge lasts all day.

Loving my zenfone 9, has some issues due to the supported network bands but its usable with some tinkering (USA).

Degoogled Pixel 4a that I bought to replace my broken Pixel 4a. I'm gonna use this thing until it dies and then maybe buy another one. I'm not sure when another phone this hold-able, reasonably powerful enough, and good LineageOS support will get released.

Samsung Galaxy XCover 6 Pro

It was an easy choice as it's the only modern devide with removable battery and a headphone jack. I would've gotten Fairphone but no headphone jack - no buy.

6s (2015) here. I know that perfect phone doesn’t exist and mine is getting older with every minute now, battery is a joke even after one replacement few years ago..

..yet for all those years I have trouble finding any replacement, and I am open for any direction that will just feel fine (at least), somehow nothing does.

How is the App support?

To be honest, I shouldn’t be answering this question while having like 15 apps installed, freshest one is proton mail.

Two times I saw unsupported message, both with Lemmy apps, one was something on testflight and the second one was Arctic — that’s why I appreciate Voyager even more..

I see, my biggest concern is honestly Safari. Not having an up to date browser could mean that soon websites start breaking.

I am not browsing that much on my phone I guess, never had problems with websites tho. Sometimes there is a gap here and there but this is just adblock doing its thing..

Plus, there is really not that much to browse on internet now anyway.

a Pixel 3 they're basically the Google equivalent to the iPhone I did some work merging code for my Fire tablet's Android kernel, and when I saw how much development Google put into Android, I figured Pixels would probably have the best drivers thing is kinda old, but it works great for my purposes no SD card slot though ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ but it came bundled with a few USB adapters, a wireless charger, and some headphones.

Whatever work pays for

Unfortunately what work pays for is an entirely imaginary device

Also, I don't want my personal stuff on a device I don't own

I totally get it. I just happen to work on the IT team that manages our companies mobile devices, so I’m not too fused about the privacy implications of putting some personal things on a work device. I know my personal data is kept separate, and I have backups of any data that is important.

My Pixel 6 Pro got smashed up in a bike crash, so I recently replaced it with a Pixel 7a.

I don't know if anyone's run desktop Linux on them, but I'd guess if there's any phone where that's been done, it'd be a Pixel. They make it easy to run other Android ROMs, and the Pixels are probably the most popular phones amongst the type of people who would like to attempt that as a result. (Personally, I stick with Google's Android.)

I use a Samsung S21 5G as my daily driver with an S8 as my phone for watching videos because it still has a headphone jack. This is going to be my last Samsung phone though, I can't support their constant injection of bloatware every update, their atrocious customer support, and the removal of good features.

I'm on a OnePlus 5. Had it for a few years now and love it. Best phone I ever had.

I've had a few. The OnePlus line has been, IIRC, notable for charging quickly relative to competitors, though I don't know whether things have evened out since then.

I really like the looks of those TCL NXTpaper phones. They use a matte color eink display that looks amazing.

I'm leaning towards samsung again because of DeX and an absurdly high battery life in a couple of their phones, but samsung don't seem much better than apple as a company

So. Much. Bloat. Otherwise good.

Canta + Shizuku to get rid of bloat without root. It's great! I have no bloat left on my Samsung phone now.

The s22 ultra has amazing battery life. Prefer Samsung now (flagship only) over any others. They work very well, great battery, and camera. Can use it all day streaming and using navigation, still have 40% battery after 8hrs.

I have a 22+

Why is the camera a bit shit? I was hoping for a lot more after I upgraded from a 5 year old much cheaper Chinese phone.

Mine blows away the camera on the iPhone 13 and 14 pro that I also have. Not really.sure what your talking about, it has better hardware and software than any 5yr old phone

Maybe on the ultra.

The camera is better. But only by a little.

I took photos of the same country and switched one day. The picture quality made me hard to tell which day I used which phone. My parents didn't even notice. This was on a tablet.

It's better I low light but not amazing. Looking at stars or anything dark is terrible.

Definitely over saturates photos even with the ai off. I have to drag the brightness down pretty much everytime I use it because it tries to make things brighter than they are and it loses information.

If you live in NA yes, otherwise you get an Exynos chip which have way worse effeciency.

/clings desperately to my precious Note 9

S20FE. It was cheap ~500 when i got it and it had all the stuff i wanted (microsd, 120hz, latest chip, 3 cameras, flat screen).

Use Termux on android to run Linux natively with proot

iPhone 13 Pro. Probably going to upgrade to a 16 Pro this fall.

S10+ it's running for me for the last 3 years. Used Samsung's cost like 1/4-> 1/3 the starting price about 1.5 years after release.

Pixel 8 Pro. I'm satisfied of it. The first thing I did was unlocking and the second rooting.

One plus nord n30. Bought it because it was relatively inexpensive and reviewed well. I'm happy with the purchase thus far.

How do you like the phone? We have 5 of them for work and they seem pretty decent. Sadly I couldn’t figure out how to root them before putting them into production.

It's pretty much exactly what I was looking for. I used to buy flagship phones but figured I didn't really need all that just to browse the internet on the toilet. But I also wanted something that wasn't so low powered that it lagged during regular operation like a lower cost LG I had purchased before. So far it's fulfilling that purpose very well.

I have the OnePlus 10 Pro and its a good phone in many ways, but it is locked down tight. They've come a long way away from where they started with the OnePlus One.

I'll keep it till it breaks and then I'll have to consider what to get next.

Original iPhone SE. still receiving security updates, and the perfect size for my hand. I hate the trend towards phablets.

iPhone 13, currently.

My only Apple product besides the AirPods.

Samsung ultras series with a pen. The pen feeling is real-time. Also pretty robust little thing. I’ve had it a few years and I love this phone.

I also still have an lg g4 that still works. I keep it as a backup emergency given that it still works and has a replaceable battery.

Regular Galaxy S22 256Gb

Was choosing between S22, Pixels, and Nothing Phone. Ultimately, I went with the former because I happened to accumulate Tab S8 as well as Galaxy Buds 2. If not for those, probably would've saved a buck with first Nothing.

Pros: Easy cloud sync, good processor, nice materials, could be found for a very affordable price, and rest of the features that come with premium phones

Cons: No headphone jack, no SD card slot, some bloat you can't remove, battery

Would've probably still rocked my Poco F1 if it didn't get obliterated by a 0.5m drop onto a quartz floor. It never fully recovered from it.

iphone. They're solid and they get updates forever so there is no rush to upgrade. I don't miss Android and not getting updates 6 months after I buy the phone.

If you buy an iPhone 6 months before EOL you'll also only get 6 months of updates

If you buy a non-flagship android you may get zero updates. I'm not hating on Android, but the update situation remains a joke for most Android phones.

That's simply not true. Most 200 to 300 phones get a couple Android version updated and 3 or more years of security updates. You also can't compare an iPhone to a non flagship. iPhones themselves are flagship devices.

Nowdays, I think the software support is basically the same.

Not even close. iPhone 8 from 2017 is still supported.

I mean the new android phones have 8 years of software support. You can still use phones with outdated software.

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Well then you’re already unreliable and hyperbolic for giving advice as Android do in fact get updates well after 6 months. And no one can assure ‘forever’. Not even apple. I’ve had iPads complain they can’t be updated and force to go buy a new one.

Fanboi detected!   😂 Android phones vary in how many updates they will get based on manufacturer and price point of the phone. Google guarantees 4 years...that it. Others only reliably update flagship phones. I like the Android operating system, but the update situation is still largely a joke...as is the bloat in most Android phones.

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I am still using Redmi note 5 pro and it's working great!

Unfortunately, an iPhone 13 Mini.

I’d love to switch back to GrapheneOS (used it on a Pixel 3a for a while), but I really don’t like Pixel hardware. The Fairphone 5 is on my radar, but it’s expensive for what it is and also isn’t available to purchase in the US. I’m also not sure if CalyxOS supports it yet, and there aren’t any other Android roms that I’m interested in.

So I’m suffering with iOS until something else becomes available.

I’m hoping Linux phones become viable within the next 5-10 years. I have Ubuntu Touch on my Pixel 3a and PostMarketOS on my Pinephone. Mobile Linux is super cool and fun to play with, but is nowhere near daily driver ready yet.

Fortunately, an iPhone 13 mini. There just isn’t any other small phone on the market…

What do you not like about the pixel hardware? I've been reluctantly considering one

My only "wants" for phone hardware are that it's small and easily repairable. The iPhone Mini is small, the Fairphone is easily repairable, modern Pixels are nether. The repairability is also more of a concern on the Pixels since they kind of have a reputation for being unreliable. I'm not sure if Pixels are genuinely worse than the average phone, but anecdotally I see a lot more articles like this about Pixels than any other phone.

https://www.androidcentral.com/phones/im-already-doubting-the-long-term-durability-of-my-pixel-8-pro

Pixel 4, probably gonna be on this phone for a while.

Pixel 5, it's fine. Used to unlock bootloader/flash a custom os but less hobbyist lately with the phone, next one I get is definitely going to have a headphone jack though.

Pixel 8 Pro/CalyxOS. Originally considered PinePhone/FairPhone, but mobile Linux just doesn't cut it for me quite yet. Originally considered installing GrapheneOS, but learned that the developer is yikes.

There are a handful of issues, but it's working pretty well overall. I don't miss iOS, except for Spotlight.

Pixel owner here.

Do you feel like you've given up on any major flagship Pixel technology by putting another OS on it?

GrapheneOS now supports android auto. Then one thing missing for me is google pay (paying with the phone through nfc) as google does not allow it "because of security".

Not even with magisk?

Don't think so. There are three levels of google play integrity. With some magisk modules you can pass the basic level, and with more work you can get the mid level by manually finding fingerprints from other verified devices. But google pay requires the highest level, which can't be bypassed.

Anything Pixel specific? No. However, stuff like Android Auto isn't here. The Pixel features are either too gimmicky for me to care about, have suitable alternatives, or just still work.

It's mostly the camera performance I'd be willing to take zero compromises

The default camera app on CalyxOS is quite limited. You can still download any apps from Google Play through the Aurora Store, Pixel Camera included. You won't get your AI object removal, but, eh.

OnePlus 8T with LineageOS 21 on it. Thing's already a version of Android past official support, and it works great. Zero complaints, I don't see myself upgrading anytime soon. I expect to see at least another 2 years on that phone, maybe longer. Averaging 25% memory utilization, so it's got room for Android's enshittification for quite a while still.

They're all pretty much the same, unless you're looking for specific use cases, e.g. camera, outdoors ruggedness, gaming, specific OS build, etc. I stopped getting flagships once I realized my old ones battery started to swell like a cheaper phone. I'm on Android, so I get to replace any app with the one of my choice - I'm particular about data submissions to home and sneaky stuff like autotagging. Now all I look for is a recent android build (for app compatibility), decent camera hardware (I'll replace the app), IP68 and a good price.

What camera app do you use and why?

Privacy reasons. Didn't like the autotagging in the default app on my oneplus. Turns out it's a common feature on all the new phones now. I now use procam x. Bear in mind, using a third party app means you lose the advanced filters and processing the manufacturers have spent money developing. Some of the camera hardware will also not be accessible. I don't really care since I also have dedicated hardware for beauty shots.

Smasnug A40. It can run a browser, SSH, and play music. It has USB-C and a headphone jack.

I dread the day I have to replace it.

Liking my pixel 4a but still using stock :(. Should get round to installing graphene os

Blackberry Key2 because nothing beats a hardware keyboard. Tried it but cant life without one.

100% agree, my favorite phone I've had was the BlackBerry Priv, the form factor was perfect for me. I had a KeyOne but a lot of apps didn't play well with the weird resolution screen.

I couldn't find another phone with a physical keyboard and a full sized screen so I'm now on a OnePlus 10 Pro but if there was another phone released with a physical sliding keyboard I'd be on top it immediately.

I'm using a POCO X5 5G!

And I'm loving it...

iPhone 8, I have been surprised by how long it has lasted so far. Still gets security updates every now and then.

Next phone is probably going to be a fairphone.

Fair, I've heard iphones and especially ipads are actually decent.

I don't think at least on a phone I could deal with iOS though seems a little backwards and restricted