Remember people start logging out for these services. Any day they could decided to start terminating accounts if this whole anti Adblocking campaign doesn’t get subscriber numbers up
Tangential question - what is stopping youtube from restricting access to their API for 3rd party apps like Reddit did?
Ya know, I've seen a lot of posts regarding Elon Musk spam in this community, and calls to "ban" them, yet every week we get gloom and doom posts like this when some new subset of the world starts seeing this shit. I'd really like to see a pinned message about the fix, which is...
Install Firefox or a derivative, and add the uBlock Origin extension.
If you visit YouTube and see the pop-up, the page isn't loading the video content, or it just seems to be acting strange, do the following:
Click on the uBlock Origin brown shield in your extensions.
Click the three little gears icon to enter the settings.
Make sure you're in the Filter lists section from the top and click the Purge all caches button below it.
Click the Update now button.
Wait until the filter update completes.
Refresh the tab(s) that YouTube is in.
Press play.
I literally have no other installed add-ons for ad blocking, anymore. Only uBlock Origin. Any time I see the message or YouTube starts acting up, I just repeat those 7 steps above for any YouTube tab that was already open, and viola, the video plays. It has simplified so many issues for me and reduced the number of adblock extensions I need to run.
I definitely plan on donating this holiday season to their team, probably the biggest share of the pie between the FOSS apps I enjoy and appreciate. Should uBlock Origin ever fail, I'll just stop going to YouTube.
Weird. One way or another, they're gonna get my money!! How dare they make a great tool for free, and accept nothing for their time and contributions!! The nerve of some devs, I tell ya! /s
Take it to the list maintainers <3
Or do what uBO's creator suggests: donate to the silent Chads maintaining the lists uBo depends on.
I don't currently have the money for donations, but this would be important information that should be spread around more
The element picker and disable JS button are also a life saver.
Gets around so many shitty things about the modern web. The one thing I agree with from Brave (Firefox all the way though) is including uBlock by default (I just wish they gave credit).
Yeah they really are. I use to use firefox but now I use a modafied version called librewolf. It comes with ublock by default
Why not LibreWolf, a privacy oriented browser that ships with the real uBlock Origin? ;)
And using Firefox or its derivates supports the Internet. Chromium's near-monopoly only helps Google dictate web standards.
wdym with the rral ublock origin? 👀👀
Because Brave ships with a very limited ad blocker that is not uBlock Origin
Intrusive and sneaky ads like the ones on YouTube should be heavily regulated if not illegal.
Edit: especially ads louder than the average content volume, repetitive jingles designed to get stuck in your head, billboards, and ads thrown in the middle of the video you’re watching
"Loud" is unfortunately hard to quantify. There's a lot of psychoacoustics that mean that the number of decidels really doesn't tell you what's loud and what's not.
Anyway the point is that it's hard to make rules about this kind of thing, because sound is subjective and there are ways to circumvent any restrictions you make.
Sounds like you haven't watched a lot of free to air tv haha
I can honestly say, apart from seeing it on on the background when visiting parents or similar, that I haven't watched free to air TV in maybe 15 years. Been streaming or downloading all that time.
I hardly watch it either. Just found it funny all the complaints above could be applied to what free to air tv has been doing for decades.
Ublock Origin on firefox still work for me no filter
It's pretty random whether you get the message or not. Some of my friends, including me, straight up cannot watch youtube on their website half of the time anymore, because it full blocks us. It's not just an annoying message, videos actually just don't play. But I only get it on some days. I think the message only pops up if you've been watching for more than like an hour straight. Then again, some of my friends have never seen the message. Who knows. Just more weird big tech server bullshit. Like how twitter's api works 15% of the time (for me).
Purge cache and refresh does the trick if you have problems with the firefox+ublock combination. Or you have some other active extensions which prevents ublock from doing its thing.
Been watching for 3h straight and still no pop or problem with videos but when time eventually come I'll try to setup UBO filter or using 3rd party frontend
I'm daily using uBlock Origin (with Firefox) on Windows, and ReVanced on Android, and have experienced zero indications that Google is at war with ad blockers. These two are fucking fantastic and highly recommended. I don't expect it to last forever, but bravo to these devs and contributors.
A bit unrelated, but do you know if there is a hardened firefox for linux (just like Mull for Android)?
LibreWolf is a hardened Firefox also available on Linux.
I use a betterfox userscript for hardening Linux Firefox
Yeah, all Google accomplished with this bullshit was finally getting me to switch from Chrome to Firefox as my main browser on desktop.
Pretty much, also encouraged me to download uBlock, and now I see how many items it blocks from pages like YouTube. Spoiler: It’s a lot.
Right?
I have two tabs open...one is a site that is overtly and actively promoting products to me, with literal links to retailers where I can buy the stuff they're promoting...the other is YouTube.
The promotional site's uBlock counter is at 4.
YouTube's is at...139.
Leave that YouTube tab open open for a day and see how many thousands of items uBlock has blocked.
I see absolutely insane numbers on Google docs, 10000+ blocked. My total per year is now over 5 million. A lot more intense than a few years ago, where it took multiple years to reach 3 million.
Holy shit, I have multiple tabs open and have only been using Firefox as my default browser for about 1.5 3-months (August 9th). Each YouTube tab has over 10k blocks and lifetime blocks since installation is over 4.1 million!
Edit: found the document I made in Obsidian to plan my move from Brave to Firefox and the created data is August 9th.
Wow I haven't even looked for all time blocks! I'll have to look...
Yup, I left youtube up on my laptop all day today and this is ublocks total. It's fucking crazy that some people don't bother with adblockers
It does on mine, sometimes, so I clear cache, update uBlock, restart Firefox. In general it blocks them again
Or mine on Vivaldi. It was showing me the notice the other week, but seems to have stopped now. Either they are now time limiting youtube before the ad blocking thing comes back, or uBlock upped the ante.
Your uBlock probably updated. uBlock has pretty much been able to successfully block YouTube's adblocker block since YouTube started blocking adblockers, so long as you kept the filters updated.
Never seen that banner or an ad. I guess it's just a matter of time though 😕
uBlock Origin is reliably blocking the blocker blocker for me at this time, though a few popups got through a couple weeks ago.
Same, uBlock in Firefox is doing it 100% for me. Haven't even seen a youtube ad or a complaint that I should stop blocking ads.
Well if you are using Firefox, you obviously life the easy life. But what about the Edge or Chrome users here? Habe some respect for those poor guys.
They suffer voluntarily simply by choosing not to switch their browsers to non-chromium.
Yeah, that suffering is self inflicted if we’re talking about home users. In an enterprise environment you might need to convince your admin to add Firefox to the company portal.
Mullvad vpn + mullvad browser + ublock origin + never logging into google....
Also freetube, also newpipe...
Maybe they don't bother trying to block vpn users?
I use a VPN, and I saw the popup.
from what I've read incognito mode is still unaffected, but thats just rumors online
If you have a VPN just set your location to a place they don’t run ads
I saw them, then I purged ublocks cache and updated and they have been gone ever since (also on firefox, because I switched as soon as I read the news that they would pull this stunt on all chromium browsers a year ago).
No change for me, youtube sure is trying but ublock origin keeps fighting the good fight
Gotta love those guys
Firefox + uBlock Origin here still holding strong.
LibreWolf (Fork of Firefox without the crap like Pocket or Sponsored sites) is great too. It also comes preinstalled with uBlock Origin. It's what I recommend to everyone.
I'd rather not personally. I can just disable all that anyway.
LibreWolf also makes significant privacy and security improvements by applying certain settings from Arkenfox user.js and from the Tor Browser. Sure, I can debloat and harden Firefox myself, but all of that is already done on LibreWolf, so that's what I recommend to new users, as they like to stick to the default settings.
Yeah its fair enough, but it's easier to just use FF for me, I don't care if they want some anonymous usage statistics and trying to be fully private online is a fools errand. Base FF is good enough imo.
It's not just Mozilla telemetry that LibreWolf protects you against, it also prevents random websites from fingerprinting you and the preinstalled uBlock Origin blocks trackers and all of that shit
I'm also on Librewolf, but most people are not all that tech-savvy, so basic Firefox is better for them just because it has auto-update.
It’s also not that difficult to configure hardened Firefox. It takes a minute or two and there are plenty of written and video guides that’ll have even the least tech savvy people up and running quickly. The tech literacy required to reasonably protect your privacy isn’t very high anymore. The biggest hurdle is getting people to care about their privacy in the first place.
Librewolf is a wonderful project but not something I recommend very often in my personal life, if only because most people just don’t need or want that level of protection at the expense of convenience.
You can also use the Firefox profile maker which is basically lets you create a new Firefox profile with the features and hardening you want. The website: https://ffprofile.com/
Where does LibreWolf compromise on privacy or security?
I keep forgetting that Windows doesn't have a proper package manager. From a software architecture point of view, an application shouldn't be responsible for updates, this should be handled by the operating system or a specific component of it, the package manager (which Windows doesn't have, at least not by default).
I still haven't run into any issues with this setup.
Nooo. YouTube thinks it's fully blocking ad blockers. In reality nothing's changed.
EU based Firefox + uBlock Origin user here. All very good :)
Canada based same, is this only happening on Chrome or something?
Exact opposite here, no issues on chrome, blocked on Firefox.
Weird, I haven't even gotten a warning yet.
Did someone forget to purge their uBlock caches?
Exactly. Takes five seconds.
I'm not having YT problems but have never done this.
Could someone explain how?
Open the uBlock Dashboard, then in the Filter Lists tab click the Purge All Caches button (then the Update now button)
For quicker syncing, you can:
Open uBlock Settings -> click Filter Lists tab -> type "quick" into search box -> click clock icon for "uBlock filters – Quick fixes" -> click "Update Now" button up top
That will only clear the cache for the fixes that actually counter the youtube countermeasures. Helpful if it takes a long time to download and refresh when all of the caches are invalidated.
No problems here whatsoever, I don't know what everybody is talking about. Remember to donate some bucks to your favorite open source adblock (or piping app), thank you.
This was annoying me in browsers so i did a bit of reading and found out that not only can I remove their ad block blocker in browser, but my TVs also support ad free YouTube. Thanks Google! Couldn't have done it without you.
Ssh! Yes, me too, but don't let YouTube know that.
Oh! Yeah! I can't watch videos without tons of adverts every 15 nanoseconds!!
The ReVanced app still works just fine.
I don't get it, I use a variety of browsers and apps, with or without VPN. I even scrape channel RSS from the same IP and have never seen this.
You didn't state if you use an adblock extension, which is what this is all about.
Using some sort of ad-blocking is default. I haven't seen more than the occasional ad before the filters update for more than a decade and a half.
This will definetly be a shot in the foot for Google, the beginning of YouTube's downfall
Only cloud hosting providers can provide hosting for themselves as cheaply as google. Microsoft and Amazon (except through prime video and twitch) have shown no interest in entering the fray. The downfall will only come through antitrust.
Finally some fucking space for competitors
Federation will be the only real option considering the massive storage and bandwidth requirements. Even then, once an instance starts to grow, they'll have to come up with some type of monetization strategy.
Even a low population instance will likely need many terabytes of storage.
I don't see how federation makes economic sense for video serving/hosting. To do it economicaly you need to have local data centers with peering agreements with local ISPs and good deals for transit. Only big data companies (Google) and huge or specialized self hosts(daily motion, Facebook), can really do it.
Reddit and Vimeo were stupid for hosting video on cloud services for that reason. Reddit wouldn't have been in such an economic crunch if they weren't burning money by serving video on the cloud.
I suspect in the long run it will be doable due to advancements in bandwidth, computing power, disk space and compression efficiency but it's probably more than a decade away.
And even then it might be the case that it's only viable to do 1080p while the big guns can do 8k at 120fps.
I’m self hosting an invidious instance and not once have I noticed any interruptions. 10/10 just use a public invidious instance and be done with it
Me still haven't seen that shit, but my cousin does. Weird
Same, but I think it has to do with uBlock Origin updating. Nothing on my PC but saw it on a laptop.
A quick cookie purge and updating uBO and it was solved.
Firefox nightly working lime a charm. I would rather download any video I want to see than using the shitty native app.
Three one minute adds was enough for me.
I have not changed anything about my browsing habits and I spend like 12 hours a day on YT, haven't yet seen this. Not very universal.
3 similar but different questions:
Where do you use YouTube (phone, pc, etc)
Where do you use YouTube (country, location)
Where do you use YouTube (browser, app, etc)
PC (ubuntu) and Android both w/ FF & uB. Have yet to see this in Canada.
But it does typically take Google a little while to remember that we're part of the world..
Pc, usa, chrome
My phone, my partner's phone, home pc, my partner's home pc, work pc, laptop, tv. Canada.
Nerds rejoice, we will never be defeated
They could put the ads in the data stream instead of implementing it client-side. But that is likely prohibitively expensive or cuts their ability to target ads.
Just checked for myself and I'm not getting any popups, but perhaps it just hasn't quite hit my region yet?
Maybe you're like me and are already blocking the popups, too.
Google chrome U block user here. Still works fine
Love the Ficsit mug in the photo 😆
I just use the Vivaldi Browser and watch all my YouTube in browser. shrug
there was an attempt
Until yesterday I was blocked from youtube, despite using UBO. Today it works. I don't know if it is random or if UBO does something. Possibly it will stop working again. In any case I started using piped (hope they don't decide to do something with it).
UBO updates their filters when they can, as they find and fix changes.
Youtube directly responds to those patches by updating their system. Last I checked, they do this twice a day.
Any time your UBO isnt stopping youtube, you are using filters from before youtubes last update. Opening your UBO settings, clearing and updating your filters, and refreshing your browser fixes this.
The only time it doesnt is if UBO hasnt patched youtubes most recent changes. This window of time is teeeny tiny.
Not on my PC
I’ll just use an ad blocker-blocker
uBlock Origin has that feature built in
That is what google uses, after all they attempt to block your adblocker. You would need an ad blocker-blocker-blocker.
I only use Firefox for youtube and nothing else... it still just works the same as ever - the only ads I see are the ones the creators make themselves for sponsors. I only use Chromium-based browsers for anything that has nothing to do with google...
Try Sponsorblck. It can block sponsors, and a couple of other things. You can also set a skip button for specific segments and skip them if you want.
Users like you can mark sponsor and other segments for others to be able to skip.
I haven't seen an ad on YouTube in several years. Doubt I'll ever see one.
No issues with revanced
Same here
Haven't seen an anti-adblock message yet, and I block ads in all sorts of ways across my devices.
I got fed up with this shit and invested a bit of time into getting a working Premium Family plan through a cheap country (Ukraine is about $4 per month). I invited my whole family (parents included) so essentially 6 people have an ad-free YouTube now for less than $1 each (per month). I assume that's still less than what they have gotten by serving us a shit ton of ads. And I am rid of that cat and mouse game for a while.
The entire internet nowadays is either monopolized or close to it. I miss the days of many servers hosting indie websites, as opposed to one or two companies per niche.
with FF and ublock i can watch yt as always. Never got the poup. But as of today, the youtube page is just blank. I can search and watch anything, but the start-page is blank. (no account)
I'm getting the pop-up, which I can click to close and watch videos on my FF + Ublock.
Clear you cache on UBlock Origin
Clear you cache on UBlock Origin
I did purge my cache on Ublock, not working for me.
Then try ro disable all other extensions that manipulate Youtube that could cause the Message to still appear.
Uninstalled FF and reinstalled, that worked. Interestingly I do not have this issue on my dualboot Ubuntu FF.
Well uh... Whatever they're doing ain't working for me, because I'm yet to see one of these popups.
Let the blocking war commence. Beligerents are referred to as Blockheads.
Is there a fediverse alternative to youtube?
Peertube.
Doesn't seems like it's allowing me to create an account sadly
Try creating an account on another instance, because fediverse?
merde ._.
Scheisse
govna
Switched to FreeTube. Problem solved.
Question.
Wouldn't the catch-all solution for YT is to pair the AJAX calls for the video with a "view video key", and that key to be found out after running a deeply obviouscated javascript served with the html of the "view video" page?
They could even bundle some of the key-building-js with the ad being served.
At some point in order to "block the ad" , the ad blocker would have to run or analyze tons of JS code , making the ordeal to difficult to compute.
My guess is they can't afford the complication on the server side.
They could probably force the ad to be decoded by asking the client for proof. They couldn't prove that it was actually shown to the user though.
What I don't understand is why they don't block downloading the video during the period where an ad is supposed to be playing.
I think that is actually what they've already been doing for at least a decade?
Whenever you download a youtube video using something other than a js-enabled browser, then I think something like yt-dlp's jsinterp.py needs to evaluate some javascript to extract the key.
Vanilla Brave blocks ads and doesn't show the blocker. Ublock & Better YouTube will cause it to trigger. Tampermonkey script prevents the blocker from appearing after disabling/enabling Ublock for a video or two.
Fuck YouTube and Google. They make enough money selling my data.
Edit: Okay I get it guys, Brave bad
Ublock doesn't trigger it. Better YouTube does. Remove it and you're golden.
Brave is commercial grade malware. How anyone can willingly install that on their system and then complain about google selling data is beyond me. At this point, Firefox is without alternatives.
Ublock was triggering mine, odd that it doesn't trigger for others
Explain?
Where to start...
They once deployed their own cryptocurrency and used your computer to mine without consent,
They then manipulated all links to Amazon and some other shops to be affiliate links with themselves as beneficiary, earning commissions without user consent (and in violation of Amazon's terms),
They install a VPN service without user consent,
They sell user data (anonymized) to train AI farms
The article is not neutral in its phrasing, but the content is correct. You'll find other sources if you look around.
Just brainwashed Mozilla shills spreading FUD. Nothing unusual.
Can't say I've seen anything yet, just hope my ad-blocker holds steady
For non-Premium users.
Google is keeping their services free for long enough, so people start believing it's supposed to be like that.
At the same moment they keep paying for their music streaming, cloud storage and the rest...
It's not free. They take your data while alsp giving you ads. A quick Google suggests they have about 280 billion in annual revenue. Which part of that is free?
EDIT: I'm fascinated by the childishness of those who are complaining about the $10. Not only you don't have to pay it, and not only that it's open source, and not only the intentions are clear on why it's not a permissive license made to fight filling average Joe with malware like always being done with NewPipe and others on Play Store, but also you can pick your poison. Would you like google to win this dumb war on ad blockers? Or would you like to support non-perfect people making FOSS apps for your benefit? I really don't get you, guys. Pick your battles! Take the win and shut up for once!
I see there's a lot of negativity around GrayJay and their licensing and I don't disagree; but there's a battle going on here It's Google against the world. Having private paid entities working on this alongside the FOSS efforts is definitely not a bad thing. The fact that they're running source available means that other people can look at what they're doing even if they can't use their code directly.
They can use the code directly. The license allows "review, compilation and non-commercial distribution".
It doesn't explicitly allow modification, but they do define "code" as "the code and any part of it and any derivative of it", so clearly derivatives are expected.
It is at least source available. I prefer they didn't use the license they're using but it's there right to do so.
For mobile it's between using revanced, Grayjay or brave. At the moment I'm willing to use any one of the three that works on a given day.
On Android there's also NewPipe and LibreTube
They are all welcome.
However, almost all these guys are using the same libraries under the hood. When Google breaks one you're probably going to break most of them leaving us all scrambling to find the next way.
This must be the worst recommendation I've seen here
Some solutions:
Where is YouTube ReVanced?
Thank you so much for sharing Yattee and the guide.
For iOS I really like Vinegar.
Currently not working, but Firefox Focus is!
A fix for Vinegar is on the way.
Remember people start logging out for these services. Any day they could decided to start terminating accounts if this whole anti Adblocking campaign doesn’t get subscriber numbers up
Tangential question - what is stopping youtube from restricting access to their API for 3rd party apps like Reddit did?
SSSSSSHHHH
Ya know, I've seen a lot of posts regarding Elon Musk spam in this community, and calls to "ban" them, yet every week we get gloom and doom posts like this when some new subset of the world starts seeing this shit. I'd really like to see a pinned message about the fix, which is...
If you visit YouTube and see the pop-up, the page isn't loading the video content, or it just seems to be acting strange, do the following:
I literally have no other installed add-ons for ad blocking, anymore. Only uBlock Origin. Any time I see the message or YouTube starts acting up, I just repeat those 7 steps above for any YouTube tab that was already open, and viola, the video plays. It has simplified so many issues for me and reduced the number of adblock extensions I need to run.
I definitely plan on donating this holiday season to their team, probably the biggest share of the pie between the FOSS apps I enjoy and appreciate. Should uBlock Origin ever fail, I'll just stop going to YouTube.
Apparently you can't donate to them.
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Why-don't-you-accept-donations%3F
Weird. One way or another, they're gonna get my money!! How dare they make a great tool for free, and accept nothing for their time and contributions!! The nerve of some devs, I tell ya! /s
Take it to the list maintainers <3
Or do what uBO's creator suggests: donate to the silent Chads maintaining the lists uBo depends on.
I don't currently have the money for donations, but this would be important information that should be spread around more
Straight from their GitHub Readme: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/blob/master/README.md#about.
The element picker and disable JS button are also a life saver. Gets around so many shitty things about the modern web. The one thing I agree with from Brave (Firefox all the way though) is including uBlock by default (I just wish they gave credit).
Yeah they really are. I use to use firefox but now I use a modafied version called librewolf. It comes with ublock by default
Why not LibreWolf, a privacy oriented browser that ships with the real uBlock Origin? ;)
And using Firefox or its derivates supports the Internet. Chromium's near-monopoly only helps Google dictate web standards.
wdym with the rral ublock origin? 👀👀
Because Brave ships with a very limited ad blocker that is not uBlock Origin
Intrusive and sneaky ads like the ones on YouTube should be heavily regulated if not illegal.
Edit: especially ads louder than the average content volume, repetitive jingles designed to get stuck in your head, billboards, and ads thrown in the middle of the video you’re watching
"Loud" is unfortunately hard to quantify. There's a lot of psychoacoustics that mean that the number of decidels really doesn't tell you what's loud and what's not.
This is a great demo of how sounds can appear extremely loud without actually being physically very loud: https://youtu.be/tONF9OSUOSw?t=7m16s
Anyway the point is that it's hard to make rules about this kind of thing, because sound is subjective and there are ways to circumvent any restrictions you make.
LUFS
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
LUFS
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Thought this would be Tom Scott. I was not disappointed.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://piped.video/tONF9OSUOSw?t=7m16s
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Sounds like you haven't watched a lot of free to air tv haha
I can honestly say, apart from seeing it on on the background when visiting parents or similar, that I haven't watched free to air TV in maybe 15 years. Been streaming or downloading all that time.
I hardly watch it either. Just found it funny all the complaints above could be applied to what free to air tv has been doing for decades.
Agree with you completely.
Ads in those are also regulated in civilised countries.
Luckily all that is prosecutable by Ofcom here so it very rarely happens.
Ublock Origin on firefox still work for me no filter
It's pretty random whether you get the message or not. Some of my friends, including me, straight up cannot watch youtube on their website half of the time anymore, because it full blocks us. It's not just an annoying message, videos actually just don't play. But I only get it on some days. I think the message only pops up if you've been watching for more than like an hour straight. Then again, some of my friends have never seen the message. Who knows. Just more weird big tech server bullshit. Like how twitter's api works 15% of the time (for me).
Purge cache and refresh does the trick if you have problems with the firefox+ublock combination. Or you have some other active extensions which prevents ublock from doing its thing.
Been watching for 3h straight and still no pop or problem with videos but when time eventually come I'll try to setup UBO filter or using 3rd party frontend
I'm daily using uBlock Origin (with Firefox) on Windows, and ReVanced on Android, and have experienced zero indications that Google is at war with ad blockers. These two are fucking fantastic and highly recommended. I don't expect it to last forever, but bravo to these devs and contributors.
A bit unrelated, but do you know if there is a hardened firefox for linux (just like Mull for Android)?
LibreWolf is a hardened Firefox also available on Linux.
I use a betterfox userscript for hardening Linux Firefox
Will look into it, thanks!
Firefox with Adblocker Ultimate working fine for me as of last night. I'll check again tonight.
They blocked me with that combo on my PC a week ago.
It isn't blocking my uBlock Origin on Firefox.
Yeah, all Google accomplished with this bullshit was finally getting me to switch from Chrome to Firefox as my main browser on desktop.
Pretty much, also encouraged me to download uBlock, and now I see how many items it blocks from pages like YouTube. Spoiler: It’s a lot.
Right?
I have two tabs open...one is a site that is overtly and actively promoting products to me, with literal links to retailers where I can buy the stuff they're promoting...the other is YouTube.
The promotional site's uBlock counter is at 4.
YouTube's is at...139.
Leave that YouTube tab open open for a day and see how many thousands of items uBlock has blocked.
I see absolutely insane numbers on Google docs, 10000+ blocked. My total per year is now over 5 million. A lot more intense than a few years ago, where it took multiple years to reach 3 million.
Holy shit, I have multiple tabs open and have only been using Firefox as my default browser for about
1.53-months (August 9th). Each YouTube tab has over 10k blocks and lifetime blocks since installation is over 4.1 million!Edit: found the document I made in Obsidian to plan my move from Brave to Firefox and the created data is August 9th.
Wow I haven't even looked for all time blocks! I'll have to look...
Yup, I left youtube up on my laptop all day today and this is ublocks total. It's fucking crazy that some people don't bother with adblockers
It does on mine, sometimes, so I clear cache, update uBlock, restart Firefox. In general it blocks them again
Or mine on Vivaldi. It was showing me the notice the other week, but seems to have stopped now. Either they are now time limiting youtube before the ad blocking thing comes back, or uBlock upped the ante.
Your uBlock probably updated. uBlock has pretty much been able to successfully block YouTube's adblocker block since YouTube started blocking adblockers, so long as you kept the filters updated.
Never seen that banner or an ad. I guess it's just a matter of time though 😕
uBlock Origin is reliably blocking the blocker blocker for me at this time, though a few popups got through a couple weeks ago.
Same, uBlock in Firefox is doing it 100% for me. Haven't even seen a youtube ad or a complaint that I should stop blocking ads.
Well if you are using Firefox, you obviously life the easy life. But what about the Edge or Chrome users here? Habe some respect for those poor guys.
They suffer voluntarily simply by choosing not to switch their browsers to non-chromium.
Yeah, that suffering is self inflicted if we’re talking about home users. In an enterprise environment you might need to convince your admin to add Firefox to the company portal.
I feel sorry for Chrome/Chromium users who can't even use real ad-blockers because Google is scared of uBlock Origin and deprecated MV2
I don't. Most of them have the ability to use something else and have chosen not to.
That's another way to see it.
Same, it's a cat and mouse battle .. lol
Yo dawg, I heard you like blockers
No, they most certainly are not.
Shhhhh. Don't tell anyone the way.
Be brave, tell everyone
I wish I could donate to ublock origin so badly. I never even saw the popup.
I didn't know they don't accept donations: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Why-don't-you-accept-donations%3F
They make some interesting points, though.
As asked by uBo's creator: please donate to the list maintainers instead.
What a solid guy.
I get there's a heap of people on here who've somehow never seen these new anti-popup measures before, but they're definitely becoming more prevalent.
I switched to uBlock and purged the caches and it seems to have fixed the issue (for now anyway)
At some point I'll have to find a more permanent solution like switching browsers but right now things are working
a more permanent solution would be using an alternative front end like piped. there are a lot of public instances available
Use clients such as LibreTube. It works great and even allows skipping sponsored content.
Do this daily.
I only had to do it once. Haven't seen the pop up since.
never seen the youtube anti-adblock stuff.
Mullvad vpn + mullvad browser + ublock origin + never logging into google....
Also freetube, also newpipe...
Maybe they don't bother trying to block vpn users?
I use a VPN, and I saw the popup.
from what I've read incognito mode is still unaffected, but thats just rumors online
If you have a VPN just set your location to a place they don’t run ads
I saw them, then I purged ublocks cache and updated and they have been gone ever since (also on firefox, because I switched as soon as I read the news that they would pull this stunt on all chromium browsers a year ago).
No change for me, youtube sure is trying but ublock origin keeps fighting the good fight
Gotta love those guys
Firefox + uBlock Origin here still holding strong.
LibreWolf (Fork of Firefox without the crap like Pocket or Sponsored sites) is great too. It also comes preinstalled with uBlock Origin. It's what I recommend to everyone.
I'd rather not personally. I can just disable all that anyway.
LibreWolf also makes significant privacy and security improvements by applying certain settings from Arkenfox user.js and from the Tor Browser. Sure, I can debloat and harden Firefox myself, but all of that is already done on LibreWolf, so that's what I recommend to new users, as they like to stick to the default settings.
Yeah its fair enough, but it's easier to just use FF for me, I don't care if they want some anonymous usage statistics and trying to be fully private online is a fools errand. Base FF is good enough imo.
It's not just Mozilla telemetry that LibreWolf protects you against, it also prevents random websites from fingerprinting you and the preinstalled uBlock Origin blocks trackers and all of that shit
I'm also on Librewolf, but most people are not all that tech-savvy, so basic Firefox is better for them just because it has auto-update.
It’s also not that difficult to configure hardened Firefox. It takes a minute or two and there are plenty of written and video guides that’ll have even the least tech savvy people up and running quickly. The tech literacy required to reasonably protect your privacy isn’t very high anymore. The biggest hurdle is getting people to care about their privacy in the first place.
Librewolf is a wonderful project but not something I recommend very often in my personal life, if only because most people just don’t need or want that level of protection at the expense of convenience.
You can also use the Firefox profile maker which is basically lets you create a new Firefox profile with the features and hardening you want. The website: https://ffprofile.com/
Where does LibreWolf compromise on privacy or security?
I keep forgetting that Windows doesn't have a proper package manager. From a software architecture point of view, an application shouldn't be responsible for updates, this should be handled by the operating system or a specific component of it, the package manager (which Windows doesn't have, at least not by default).
I still haven't run into any issues with this setup.
Nooo. YouTube thinks it's fully blocking ad blockers. In reality nothing's changed.
EU based Firefox + uBlock Origin user here. All very good :)
Canada based same, is this only happening on Chrome or something?
Exact opposite here, no issues on chrome, blocked on Firefox.
Weird, I haven't even gotten a warning yet.
Did someone forget to purge their uBlock caches?
Exactly. Takes five seconds.
I'm not having YT problems but have never done this.
Could someone explain how?
Open the uBlock Dashboard, then in the Filter Lists tab click the Purge All Caches button (then the Update now button)
For quicker syncing, you can:
Open uBlock Settings -> click Filter Lists tab -> type "quick" into search box -> click clock icon for "uBlock filters – Quick fixes" -> click "Update Now" button up top
That will only clear the cache for the fixes that actually counter the youtube countermeasures. Helpful if it takes a long time to download and refresh when all of the caches are invalidated.
No problems here whatsoever, I don't know what everybody is talking about. Remember to donate some bucks to your favorite open source adblock (or piping app), thank you.
UBlock doesn't accept donations.
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Why-don't-you-accept-donations%3F
I would otherwise.
This was annoying me in browsers so i did a bit of reading and found out that not only can I remove their ad block blocker in browser, but my TVs also support ad free YouTube. Thanks Google! Couldn't have done it without you.
Can you point me to ad free tv please
SmartTube (formerly SmartTubeNext).
Any idea is there anything similar available on LG webOS?
Maybe YouTube WebOS ? It has adblock and sponsorblock supports as well. It can be installed from webos homebrew channel. Check https://www.webosbrew.org/ to get started.
This TV app is the best ! I love it !
Get any stick that runs android tv or fire TV and install
freetubenextsmarttubenext. Ads gone.I guess you're thinking of SmartTube, formerly known as SmartTubeNext?
Yup. Let me correct that. Freetube is a PC app that I have installed on my Linux machine. Lol Thank you for the correction :)
Get any stick that runs android tv or fire TV and install freetubenext. Ads gone.
Do you have a LG TV? If not I can't help you
I do, and I'd like a push in the right direction.
I got you chief: https://github.com/webosbrew/dev-manager-desktop
Cheers, will have to check this out when I get home.
No worries, happy to help troubleshoot if you need anything
UK Firefox user here.... All good
It made an attempt for sure, a cute one at that 🤣
I was just using Chrome with ublock origin at work and didn't see jack shit.
**as best as they can
was patchy 2 weeks ago but havnt had an issue in over a week now. we are winning so far
And I've been using only newpipe and freetube since this all started. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
ReVanced still works fine, grayjay also works.
Grayjay has been really nice! Enjoying it so far.
Same. A couple little bugs but overall a great concept, hopefully more future proof than the Vanced apps
... yes. I know because you've told me 25 times in the last week.
Nope. FF with UBO still works perfectly.
Ssh! Yes, me too, but don't let YouTube know that.
Oh! Yeah! I can't watch videos without tons of adverts every 15 nanoseconds!!
The ReVanced app still works just fine.
I don't get it, I use a variety of browsers and apps, with or without VPN. I even scrape channel RSS from the same IP and have never seen this.
You didn't state if you use an adblock extension, which is what this is all about.
Using some sort of ad-blocking is default. I haven't seen more than the occasional ad before the filters update for more than a decade and a half.
This will definetly be a shot in the foot for Google, the beginning of YouTube's downfall
Only cloud hosting providers can provide hosting for themselves as cheaply as google. Microsoft and Amazon (except through prime video and twitch) have shown no interest in entering the fray. The downfall will only come through antitrust.
Finally some fucking space for competitors
Federation will be the only real option considering the massive storage and bandwidth requirements. Even then, once an instance starts to grow, they'll have to come up with some type of monetization strategy.
Even a low population instance will likely need many terabytes of storage.
I don't see how federation makes economic sense for video serving/hosting. To do it economicaly you need to have local data centers with peering agreements with local ISPs and good deals for transit. Only big data companies (Google) and huge or specialized self hosts(daily motion, Facebook), can really do it.
Reddit and Vimeo were stupid for hosting video on cloud services for that reason. Reddit wouldn't have been in such an economic crunch if they weren't burning money by serving video on the cloud.
I suspect in the long run it will be doable due to advancements in bandwidth, computing power, disk space and compression efficiency but it's probably more than a decade away.
And even then it might be the case that it's only viable to do 1080p while the big guns can do 8k at 120fps.
I hope PeerTube gets better
Please yes, it needs a lot of better.
I’m self hosting an invidious instance and not once have I noticed any interruptions. 10/10 just use a public invidious instance and be done with it
Me still haven't seen that shit, but my cousin does. Weird
Same, but I think it has to do with uBlock Origin updating. Nothing on my PC but saw it on a laptop.
A quick cookie purge and updating uBO and it was solved.
Firefox nightly working lime a charm. I would rather download any video I want to see than using the shitty native app.
Three one minute adds was enough for me.
I have not changed anything about my browsing habits and I spend like 12 hours a day on YT, haven't yet seen this. Not very universal.
3 similar but different questions:
PC (ubuntu) and Android both w/ FF & uB. Have yet to see this in Canada.
But it does typically take Google a little while to remember that we're part of the world..
Pc, usa, chrome
My phone, my partner's phone, home pc, my partner's home pc, work pc, laptop, tv. Canada.
Nerds rejoice, we will never be defeated
They could put the ads in the data stream instead of implementing it client-side. But that is likely prohibitively expensive or cuts their ability to target ads.
still using revanced on android and it's fine
My original install of Vanced is still working!
Definitely not blocking here.. but.. I have to ask. Which takes precedence, YouTube's T&C's or EU law?
Obviously, the law beats any T&C.
Grayjay is the best all in all app for Android and Invidious Cross Platform. It syncs everything.
And I just followed instructions on this page
https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uAssets/issues/19976
And it fixed it
It has? 🤔
Just checked for myself and I'm not getting any popups, but perhaps it just hasn't quite hit my region yet?
Maybe you're like me and are already blocking the popups, too.
Google chrome U block user here. Still works fine
Love the Ficsit mug in the photo 😆
I just use the Vivaldi Browser and watch all my YouTube in browser. shrug
there was an attempt
Until yesterday I was blocked from youtube, despite using UBO. Today it works. I don't know if it is random or if UBO does something. Possibly it will stop working again. In any case I started using piped (hope they don't decide to do something with it).
UBO updates their filters when they can, as they find and fix changes.
Youtube directly responds to those patches by updating their system. Last I checked, they do this twice a day.
Any time your UBO isnt stopping youtube, you are using filters from before youtubes last update. Opening your UBO settings, clearing and updating your filters, and refreshing your browser fixes this.
The only time it doesnt is if UBO hasnt patched youtubes most recent changes. This window of time is teeeny tiny.
Not on my PC
I’ll just use an ad blocker-blocker
uBlock Origin has that feature built in
That is what google uses, after all they attempt to block your adblocker. You would need an ad blocker-blocker-blocker.
I only use Firefox for youtube and nothing else... it still just works the same as ever - the only ads I see are the ones the creators make themselves for sponsors. I only use Chromium-based browsers for anything that has nothing to do with google...
Try Sponsorblck. It can block sponsors, and a couple of other things. You can also set a skip button for specific segments and skip them if you want. Users like you can mark sponsor and other segments for others to be able to skip.
I haven't seen an ad on YouTube in several years. Doubt I'll ever see one.
No issues with revanced
Same here
Haven't seen an anti-adblock message yet, and I block ads in all sorts of ways across my devices.
I got fed up with this shit and invested a bit of time into getting a working Premium Family plan through a cheap country (Ukraine is about $4 per month). I invited my whole family (parents included) so essentially 6 people have an ad-free YouTube now for less than $1 each (per month). I assume that's still less than what they have gotten by serving us a shit ton of ads. And I am rid of that cat and mouse game for a while.
Monopolistic and some shit
The entire internet nowadays is either monopolized or close to it. I miss the days of many servers hosting indie websites, as opposed to one or two companies per niche.
lol, good luck with that Google
No they don't.
with FF and ublock i can watch yt as always. Never got the poup. But as of today, the youtube page is just blank. I can search and watch anything, but the start-page is blank. (no account)
I'm getting the pop-up, which I can click to close and watch videos on my FF + Ublock.
Clear you cache on UBlock Origin
Clear you cache on UBlock Origin
I did purge my cache on Ublock, not working for me.
Then try ro disable all other extensions that manipulate Youtube that could cause the Message to still appear.
Uninstalled FF and reinstalled, that worked. Interestingly I do not have this issue on my dualboot Ubuntu FF.
Well uh... Whatever they're doing ain't working for me, because I'm yet to see one of these popups.
Let the blocking war commence. Beligerents are referred to as Blockheads.
Is there a fediverse alternative to youtube?
Peertube.
Doesn't seems like it's allowing me to create an account sadly
Try creating an account on another instance, because fediverse?
merde ._.
Scheisse
govna
Switched to FreeTube. Problem solved.
Question. Wouldn't the catch-all solution for YT is to pair the AJAX calls for the video with a "view video key", and that key to be found out after running a deeply obviouscated javascript served with the html of the "view video" page?
They could even bundle some of the key-building-js with the ad being served.
At some point in order to "block the ad" , the ad blocker would have to run or analyze tons of JS code , making the ordeal to difficult to compute.
My guess is they can't afford the complication on the server side.
They could probably force the ad to be decoded by asking the client for proof. They couldn't prove that it was actually shown to the user though.
What I don't understand is why they don't block downloading the video during the period where an ad is supposed to be playing.
I think that is actually what they've already been doing for at least a decade?
Whenever you download a youtube video using something other than a js-enabled browser, then I think something like yt-dlp's jsinterp.py needs to evaluate some javascript to extract the key.
Weird. Mine works just fine on YouTube.
or at least they try to :P
Good try Youtube 👍🏼
not blocking ads, scripts. ctrl-shift-c
Vanilla Brave blocks ads and doesn't show the blocker. Ublock & Better YouTube will cause it to trigger. Tampermonkey script prevents the blocker from appearing after disabling/enabling Ublock for a video or two.
Fuck YouTube and Google. They make enough money selling my data.
Edit: Okay I get it guys, Brave bad
Ublock doesn't trigger it. Better YouTube does. Remove it and you're golden.
Brave is commercial grade malware. How anyone can willingly install that on their system and then complain about google selling data is beyond me. At this point, Firefox is without alternatives.
Ublock was triggering mine, odd that it doesn't trigger for others
Explain?
Where to start...
https://www.spacebar.news/p/stop-using-brave-browser
The article is not neutral in its phrasing, but the content is correct. You'll find other sources if you look around.
Just brainwashed Mozilla shills spreading FUD. Nothing unusual.
Can't say I've seen anything yet, just hope my ad-blocker holds steady
For non-Premium users.
Google is keeping their services free for long enough, so people start believing it's supposed to be like that. At the same moment they keep paying for their music streaming, cloud storage and the rest...
It's not free. They take your data while alsp giving you ads. A quick Google suggests they have about 280 billion in annual revenue. Which part of that is free?
Nope. Non-premium here, and my ublock still works perfectly fine.
I guess that's why the modded YouTube app on my webOS TV stopped working today.
'tis?
👀 I see that Satisfactory coffee cup
I installed an invidious extension on firefox that auto redirects all youtube links. I recommend it.
Libredirect + Piped server = better youtube than youtube ever was.
Google is such a douchy company now.
No, it doesn't. I have neither seen a block, nor have I seen ads. Is that a Windows-only problem then?
Incognito mode is your friend. On Firefox anyway.
Use http://grayjay.app
EDIT: I'm fascinated by the childishness of those who are complaining about the $10. Not only you don't have to pay it, and not only that it's open source, and not only the intentions are clear on why it's not a permissive license made to fight filling average Joe with malware like always being done with NewPipe and others on Play Store, but also you can pick your poison. Would you like google to win this dumb war on ad blockers? Or would you like to support non-perfect people making FOSS apps for your benefit? I really don't get you, guys. Pick your battles! Take the win and shut up for once!
I see there's a lot of negativity around GrayJay and their licensing and I don't disagree; but there's a battle going on here It's Google against the world. Having private paid entities working on this alongside the FOSS efforts is definitely not a bad thing. The fact that they're running source available means that other people can look at what they're doing even if they can't use their code directly.
They can use the code directly. The license allows "review, compilation and non-commercial distribution".
It doesn't explicitly allow modification, but they do define "code" as "the code and any part of it and any derivative of it", so clearly derivatives are expected.
Proprietary garbage
It is at least source available. I prefer they didn't use the license they're using but it's there right to do so.
For mobile it's between using revanced, Grayjay or brave. At the moment I'm willing to use any one of the three that works on a given day.
On Android there's also NewPipe and LibreTube
They are all welcome.
However, almost all these guys are using the same libraries under the hood. When Google breaks one you're probably going to break most of them leaving us all scrambling to find the next way.
This must be the worst recommendation I've seen here
A lot of people here hate brave but so far I’ve been able to block YouTube ads with brave with no issue whatsoever.