Why do all the new TVs expect me to have a platform AS WIDE as the fucking thing?? Fucking shit!! God awful absolutely dumb thoughtless design choice

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luckily this is just a 32; i had a 70 from the same brand with the same INSANELY FUCKING STUPID STAND DESIGN that i had to find something for....literally at the most extreme edges of the thing, what the fuck is this? this is so fucking stupid, it cannot be meaningfully cheaper than a proper design and it looks fucking dumb as hell and surely this has pissed off 90% of people that wanted a TV and want to put it on a little stand like a normal fucking person right??

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Centre stands need to be way more sturdy to hold it up. You can buy aftermarket VESA centre stands though if you can't wall mount it.

This right here.

The TV comes with the cheapest removable feet, because VESA mounts exist.

And considering the cost and relative light weight, are more or less a requirement

Exactly. I think an aftermarket VESA mount is pretty much required these days for modern TVs, that's the bad news. The good news is that there are plenty of options (center base, wall, swivel, etc), some very affordable, and they should last for multiple TV generations (check VESA pattern, weight limits).

But I get that these tiny, wide feet can be mind boggling at first, since TVs all used to have center stands for decades. Finally, TVs got too large, the cost savings and stability from two tiny feet won out over the alternative of the large, heavy single center base.

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The wider the TV gets, the more stable a two-feet-at-the-ends design becomes compared to a single central foot.

Plus if you need anything else, VESA mounts are super-standard and you just get whatever you need then use it on every Tv you buy.

For those that live in apartments, there are VESA stands that mount to the back of your furniture, and others that use a clamp for tables, so you don’t have to put holes in your walls. I use one on my desk for a fairly wide monitor.

If you’re unfamiliar with VESA mounts, just take note of which of the two standards your device uses. These are going to be either 75x75mm or 100x100mm. Verify with a ruler, don’t rely on the literature to be accurate.

If you wanna be mega-bougie about it, you can get just the mounting plate, and there is couple hardware available to pair it with aluminum extrusion, if you really like that 2040/2080 extrusion.

Have my tv mounted on a VESA monitor arm.

The sloped design made it a bit hard to attach the plate but it worked well enough.

Curved monitors don't have flat mounts? Seriously? That's stupid af.

No no.
Straight TV panel but sloped backside.

Who the fuck let a designer get close to the back of that thing. Only ever allow designers to view the front of anything, the back is for business.

Samsung was the culprit.
Was fun searching for compatible M screws as a newbie at the hardware store.

Since it's an older model (around 2016) it was probably a trick to get a thinner look with the hardware.

Interesting and slightly worrying design by the manufacturer, tbh.

I have a TV with a sloped backside, but the VESA part had a removable panel that was replaced with a non-curved one before putting in the screws.

I wish higher end TVs had the option to buy without the stand. They always have beefy center stands in the box even though everyone mounts high end TVs.

Now I'm just stuck with a 50lbs stand that I have no use for.

Putting a giant TV on a tiny stand is not normal.. Be mildly infuriated at yourself, not the manufacturer

Yep, the included feet are just something you might be able to use until you get a real mount.

If you really want the TV to stand on furniture, buy a proper vesa mounted stand (they can be very cheap) and maybe even a proper TV table.

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Op didn't check the specs on the item he bought and is upset it's not perfectly tailored to his individual tastes.

You love to see it.

Show me the affordable TV made in the last 5 years that doesn't require a stand at least 90% as wide as the TV is

Don't say it's for stability, you could move the feet to be 1/3 of the way in and it'll be exactly as stable because it isn't tipping over sideways. Don't say it's for a sound bar, this is a TCL, that's the cheapest "I'm looking for a new TV but make minimum wage" brand you can find

Was my 3rd amazon result when searching for a TV...

Or if you want something a little bigger, this is the 5th result.

You call $370 for a 32 inch AFFORDABLE??? Paid half that for a 50 inch.

I call 370 an affordable TV, I searched the word tv and that was my 3rd result. If you wanted a good deal I would search for more than 15seconds, but that's how long it took to find the first tv that matched the criteria.

Take a look at the 5th too, $400 for a 55in, plenty affordable!

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We have comically different standards for "affordable..." That 32" TV you linked is double the price I paid for my 55" TCL here in the states

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To be honest they think that people plan ahead for something like this..

OP blaming their shitty decisions on others. Why are you buying something without knowing its dimensions?

Fuck I hate people like this. The answer btw is pretty obvious. From a weight distribution perspective it's easiest to have two feet as wide apart as possible.

Most TV's don't list the width on the feet on the packaging do they?

I looked up the shittiest TV brand available at my local electronics store and yeah, they do list the width with and without stands.

And if you plan on putting your TV on a table that is way too small, then I'd double check where the stands sit exactly, because it's not a design problem but a you problem.

People need to stop blaming their shitty planning on "bad design". It's the most common sense design that will work in most cases.

Next you'll have the guy who puts their TV on two separate chairs complain about the bad design of TV's that only have a single stand in the middle ffs.

Weird. The last three TVs I bought didn't have the foot width listed on the box.

I just found what I believe is the same TV OP bought and it doesn't list the stand width. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/tcl-43-class-s4-s-class-4k-uhd-hdr-led-smart-tv-with-google-tv/6538141.p?skuId=6538141

A number of other budget TV brands I checked don't have it listed, either - including a Fire TV from Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/amazon-fire-tv-50-inch-4-series-4k-smart-tv/dp/B0B3GTSQ9Q/ref=sr_1_

That's been my experience. It's weird seeing people get so angry at op over the assumption that op ignored fundamental information that is so often omitted by the manufacturers.

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Tbf, sometimes the measurements are iffy. I bought a 55 inch TV that fits comfortably on my TV table. The TV had some issues so I went through a return with the manufacturer and they didn't have my specific TV in my size so they offered a 65 inch. I asked them if the measurements for the stand were the same and they read off the same distance as the 55 inch. I thought great! It will fit.

TV arrives and the stand legs were just an inch short on either side of the table, definitely not the same! But it still fit. I ended up securing the TV with those child straps just in case and plan to replace the table eventually.

Can't wall mount at the moment because of spacing issues but eventually will.

I had a similar issue with a monitor, the stand leg distance was listed but not the fact that it's width is half my desk. It doesn't help that some stores and manufacturers don't have a standardized list either.

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"weight distribution"... They weight practically nothing, and even old heavy ass CRTs sat on narrow platform mounts

Well I guess they just so it to annoy people then. There's no other reasons why they'd do this right?

Cost cutting. When huge TVs only cost a few hundred dollars and everything else has gotten super expensive, they have to cut corners

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How do you not do research on the dimensions of anything before buying something big like a TV?

Mate I'll have done a 3D reconstruction of the room accurate to the mm to test everything out. I'm only slightly exaggerating, I literally did exactly that when planning my new office/studio, had the room in 3D long before we got the house, built everything myself, custom desk, acoustic treatment, etc.

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So many people attacking OP and perhaps not remembering there was a time when nearly all flat panel TVs came on a pedestal mount. The designs were largely changed to mitigate claims and liability.

On the other hand, if you buy something, check what you're buying. Don't complain if you don't even know what you're buying.

Maybe the higher end TVs publish the feet width on the box, but the one I got a few years ago sure didn't. It was actually really frustrating to find that info for any of the TVs I was looking at at the time.

Even looking at a modern budget TV from Amazon, it doesn't say anything about the width of the legs on the product page. https://www.amazon.com/amazon-fire-tv-50-inch-4-series-4k-smart-tv/dp/B0B3GTSQ9Q/

I found what I believe to be a very similar (if not the same) TV that OP has, and it also doesn't have the specs listed on the Bestbuy website. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/tcl-43-class-s4-s-class-4k-uhd-hdr-led-smart-tv-with-google-tv/6538141.p?skuId=6538141

Did it have a picture on the box?

One large source of liability also sitting on the desk in that picture, in fact.

Nobody tell him about what TV makers expected of you when they were all CRTs…

When they weighed 70+ lbs.

I'm old enough to remember when there were TV repairmen who came to your house.

We had a tv sitting on the floor for a month at one house when I was a kid because that's as far as we could lift it inside and decided that's where it's living untill we build our giant tv cabinet.

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They don't expect you to have a stand at all. They expect you to buy a separate wall mount piece and mount it directly on the wall.

they expect you to know the lengh of your own table that's why they put the lengh on the site, also, the legs are already short, how OP expext the TV to be stable with it even shorter??

You can make a stable mount without legs as wide as the TV. I have two 27in, 1440p monitors, which both came with stands that were probably 30% as wide as the monitors themselves. However, the stands were weighted and primarily steel (I'm assuming it was steel anyway) with a plastic shell. A TV doesn't need a wide base unless the company that made it is cheaping out and refuses to spend the money to make a weighted base.

Your monitors are probably much more expensive than this TV.

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I think the fucking stupid part of this post is the OP buying a TV oversized for the space they want it on.

I guarantee you the box and everything else also showed the legs being on the side.

Pretty sure when I got my tv there was info on the box about how large of a surface it needs to stand on. OP made a big purchase without doing any planning or research and now they're whining that something isn't right 🙄

OP never bothered to research their purchase properly to buy a TV with a centre stand...

The true reason is cost, those stands that are included nowadays are insanely cheap and flimsy. If you're buying a large TV, you should budget $30-$50 for a VESA mount.

Yep, that's what I figured happened when they went from proper swivel pedestals to those stupid wedges. Hell even computer monitors are joining in on the action, the number of brand new, fairly high end and expensive monitors whose stock base is just bolted to the back and have zero adjustments is ridiculous.

I got a VESA stand for my grandparents TV for 15 bucks. Solid steel and sturdy as fuck.

Yep, and the manufacturer can't even be bothered to spend that much more money to include a high quality stand with a thousand dollar TV with already high profit margins. Somehow, having to throw the default OEM parts in a landfill because they're intentionally low quality and barely usable and being forced to buy a passable replacement separately is just a thing that they expect us to do now. Capitalism innovates y'all!

Exactly. 15 bucks is my retail cost.

I bet mass producing those vesa feet to include in the box wouldnt even add 5 bucks to the total cost, and no one would care or notice the price, and would love the stronger, sturdier base that doesnt require the entire USS Nimitz just to set the damn thing down on.

Because you bought a really cheap TV and the little feet on the sides are cheaper than a center stand that needs to be much heavier and sturdier.

Yeah that's one of those companies that buy bulk cheap TVs to slap their logo on and make out they're a tech company... Looking at you Kogan.

No one has seemed to mention the rise of sound bars. Center stands block sound bars and so so many people are using them now.

That's because TV's no longer come with decent audio because they are made as thin as possible for whatever reason.

Bought a new OLED from LG last year. Main body is 3-4 inches thick and the sound is bloody incredible. There are still some gems out there

No surprise, a wide screen tv from the late 90s was big enough to house 2 gaint speakers and a subwoofer.

And took up half your room, and weighed 800 lbs, no thanks.

My dad's place still has a gigantic plasma TV from 2000 that takes up maybe 1/3rd of the room it's in. Great picture, great sound. Completely impractical.

Those sony Trinitrons sounded so damn good, you could hook up two rca's to the AV jack and use the tv as an reasonably good speaker

Flat Panel TV were always meant to use with a sound system. It is only meant to display video. The belief has always been they are for higher end viewing. And it's impossible to get good sound out of a audio in a chassis that thin, that is why sound bars exist. Ask anyone who knows home theaters and they will tell you more than 50% of the experience is the audio. You're better off spending money on a good audio system and even going with a smaller screen if dealing with budget constraints for the best experience. They make them as thin as possible because people want that.

Yeah the speakers they come with are totally just for like pretend. They aren't real or anything

Yeah they rely on the sound bouncing back from the wall which is why some TVs have the speakers on the back

I have that same TV (50"). They know what they're doing

  • The TV is so flimsy, I don't trust it with a narrower stand.
  • Making a stand like this means the TVs can have the same stand parts for all sizes.

Stand measurements are right on the box! They expect you to read them. 🤣

Hahahaha what do you mean? This has to be satire. Nobody is that dense right? If it doesn't fit, don't buy it lmao.

Is it that hard to read the post? OP is right, almost every TV on the market has the same cheap, shitty plastic feet, and they're spaced as far apart as possible so you're unnecessarily size-limited when trying to buy something like a bedroom TV to sit on top of bookshelves or a tallboy.

I'd like something more than 32" for my bedroom too, but I can find one new 40-42" TV on the market with a central stand now, and it is some obscenely expensive 4K OLED thing from Sony. I am keeping an eye out for older, pre-owned TVs as a result, but am yet to find any good deals.

They are that far apart to accommodate soundbars

Central stands are just not that safe on bigger screens. Sadly, the easy way is to place feet on each side of the screen. One could always go for a wall mount.

If you don't like a product, don't buy it and if you know that every product has this design, then it's hardly a surprise when you unbox it at home.

This posts seems like OP didn't check if the TV would fit before buying and now they're angry at themselves.

Central stands made as shittily as the ones they put in the box, sure. A proper good central stand that uses the VESA mounts of a TV is a million times safer in my opinion

Almost like you get what you pay for. The manufacturer goes for the cheapest stand to make the entire TV cheaper.

If it had a good central stand it might be more expensive and then OP would buying a different cheaper TV with shitty stands.

If the TV is VESA compatible, there are tons of third-party stand options.

You'd be first in line bitching that your TV fell over if they moved them in 6". Wall mounts are $18.... buy one

I'm going to second this. I usually use wall mounts for my TVs and let me tell you, once it's dialed in... Chefs kiss

The problem is getting the right mount with the right support for the TV you have. You can't use a super cheap support for a super big TV, the adjustments won't work correctly and it might fall off the wall.

Once you find one strong enough for your TV and determine how high/where you want it on the wall, the next task is simply finding something to mount to. My favorite method is to combine a few ways of securing the mount. I find the studs and put a solid wood project board over top of where I want the TV to mount, and screw the board into the studs. I then place the mount and trace out where it needs to be screwed in, I then go through the board, and the drywall/plaster with a drill and put in toggle bolts that sandwich from the mounting plate, through the backer board, into the drywall. It's massive overkill to do it this way. Once that mounting plate is secured, it's definitely not going anywhere with all of that extra support.

The basic concept I'm thinking of with this is that the backing board will spread out the load from the bracket being weighed down by the TV (the rotational/twisting force). This keeps the main pressure going straight down the wall.

Once the TV is hung and adjusted, it has no risk of being knocked over by your cat, it's off of any surface, so you don't need to sacrifice table space to support it, and in all likelihood, you won't touch it again, apart from the occasional cleaning.

IMO, the only down side to mounting the TV to the wall is that you can't easily plug a new device into it. It's always a struggle to shove your face between the TV and the wall to try to see where the stupid connector is and plug it in.

Once the TV is hung and adjusted, it has no risk of being knocked over by your cat

My cat can jump to the middle of my mounted TV with a nice amount of force. I'm sure if she wanted to, she'd find a way to jump to the top and break it.

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They're expecting you to have a mount for your wall, already installed, even, from the last TV. So the legs are an afterthought, they're cheap, easy to remove and you'll probably toss them, they know. So they're enough to use for store display, no more.

Some rental places don't allow you to mess with walls and it would require repainting if you move.

So not always an option.

Buying a paint can and some spackle isn't expensive enough to prevent me from drilling into the walls (unless you've got popcorn walls or something and that's just foul). I have done it it in several rentals and got my deposit back in full. The other portion option though in this instance is to buy a VESA mount. Some of which can even just be mounted to the tv stand.

But also, people should do research before they buy things.

All of you saying you need center stands don’t realize how much heavier the stand needs to be for safety. For cheap TVs, you will get wide stands for freight reasons. They usually come with mounting mechanisms where you can get your own stand that will cost more than the TV itself.

Common sense people. If these shipped with center stands the cost would be double and you’d be complaining about how there’s no TV deals anymore.

A center stand for a TV this size can be had for less than $25 retail price. If you call it a "monitor stand", you can find one for $15 or less. That's hardly "more than the TV itself".

It's a 32" TCL. Those are like $130. We're talking a 5-10% increase in price which definitely isn't double, but it's significant enough to dramatically affect sales.

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I bought a center stand at Walmart, that mounts to the wall mount spot on the back of the TV. "Onn" brand for $18.

Works, but I do understand your frustration.

Because it is genuinely is way cheaper to include 4x 4" plastic legs, than a steel center stand capable of withstanding the torque.

For people who wall mount and for those with wide tv stands these work fine and save probably $30 / TV, and produce less overall waste.

There's nobody but yourself to blame in this one lmao

I don’t understand why most of the commenters are against you, i find the change from center stands to edge stands annoying. Especially since it seems difficult find smaller TVs nowadays

You should be mounting in on the wall anyway. Unless you want your cat to tip it over, that is.

Ah yes the installed mount in my....apartment I rent and cannot install things into

Damn what shitty place doesn't let you mount stuff to the wall?

Pretty much none allow it in my country.

What do you do if you want to hang a picture frame? Glue it on?

They recently passed a law which said you could install picture hooks "within reason" without being penalised by your landlord. Prior to that if you installed a picture hook you'd likely be charged for the cost of re-plastering the wall when you left. Although they wouldn't actually re-plaster it, they'd just charge you as if they had and then the next renter would have a picture hook so lucky them.

But major mods like installing a TV mount are totally out unless you can negotiate it with the landlord somehow. If you did it without permission it's grounds for eviction and a loss of your bond.

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Pretty much every landlord in the world will let you hang things on the wall, so long as it's not unreasonably destructive. They're pretty much planning on doing a little spackle and painting the place when any tenant moves out anyway.

A tv mount usually only requires 4-6 screw holes, which wouldn't be hard to fix later on.

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There are monitor arms that can be attached to a desk/table, maybe they can be adapted, or maybe there is a mount that can be mounted like this

You can get proper central tv stands that use the VESA mounts. They're great, keep the TV super stable and allows a little bit of swivel if needed too

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Pepperidge Farm remembers when TVs didn't even come with a "stand". It was just a big box with no real "mounting" options.

I can still remember the sound my back made when I picked up my first 32" TV.

Shudda been liftin with yer legs there, buddy

The way to lift well is using your back completely and then twisting it.

I used to fear what would happen if I dropped one of the older TV's on my foot. It was a pretty great motivator to not drop it, and to try to fall towards it if I fell. Sometimes it even took two people to move them because they were heavy and awkward.

We have definitely advanced in making them more moveable, and I'm happy about that. I don't miss throwing out my back.

I do miss the screen static though.

It's way cheaper to produce such stands (they can be way less sturdy).

Also stop wide-shaming your perfectly nice 32" cat.

Its recommended that the surface that you put your TV on be a couple inches wider than your TV.

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I don't have anything to say about the TV sitch but your cat is pretty.

Sketchy fast math says a 32" TV will be roughly 30" wide .... Feet appear to be 3" in on each side which would put them at 24" on center... What kind of umpa lumpa ass table do you have? If that is your only option you can get a treated 8' decking board for like $8, have Lowe's cut it in half and throw it on top of the table to extend it.

I measure the shit out of everything before I even go out to buy a TV. Having this feet design simply would have meant that either I wouldn’t have bought this televisi, or I already intend to replace the table.

I actually just bought a Sansui TV that almost wouldn't have fit the desk but it had 2 sets of places where the legs could be attached, so I just attached them to the inner ones. Welcome change. Not sure how uncommon it is since I've only owned like 5 TVs and most just had the little circular base in the middle instead.

The legs being so far out is maybe since manufactures found it to be the most stable places for the skinny leg designs they use now. So yeah, cost cutting measure probably.

cat is build better. cat can stand good.

You can break a TV by knocking it off a table, you can't break a cat that way. Therefore cats are better designed than TVs.

Even then just a piece of wood cut to size to lay on top wouldn’t hurt. Table looks scratched up pretty bad as it is anyways so it’s not like appearance is your game here.

almost all advice i see given in lemmy has at least a minor insult and i gotta say I'm here for it

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Did you not see the foot in the store showmodel?

A lot of show models in stores are wall mounted these days, saves on space (especially at places like Walmart and Target where they sell smaller sizes). That's being said, though, it doesn't take much to look under a wall-mounted TV to figure it where the foot(s) go.

Your orange cat is still trying to process your anger.

I imagine him muttering to himself "tsk tsk tsk ...I knew you should have measured it like I told you...tsk tsk tsk"

I mean two little hunks of plastic are most definitely cheaper than something big and sturdy in the middle as it needs to be over engineered to make up for the lack of physics being on its side. You can buy an aftermarket TV stand or wall mount it.

The two pieces of plastic don't need to be right at the ends though, a third of the way in would probably be perfectly fine

They put them so far apart so you can put a sound bar underneath. If it weren't this way someone else would be complaining here that their new Black Friday soundbar doesn't fit under there TV.

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Kitty is probably over in !cats being like “mildly infuriating…. Human is ignoring me for a flimsy idiot box…. And it’s meal time!”

Nah, it's orange, so it's probably not thinking at all.

that's so rude. you realize, of course, that orange cats only have one brain cell each, it looks like it's shared because that cell is quantum entangled with every other orange brain cell. So it's not that the one cell gets passed around, rather its that all orange cats are thinking the same thought at the same time.

and it's usually "i'm hungry."

There are many thoughtless, idiotic design choices today, for example curved edge phone screens, shitty ultrasonic/photo fingerprint sensors in the scren, no jack connector, microsim, etc. I call it engineer idiotism.

That and the endless pressure to innovate means they end up suggesting stupid shit no one wants and have the sales folks work that out

And that doesn't apply here. The feet are out wide for stability, keep weight down, cost, and leave room for a sound bar.

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Cat: Did you get the accidental coverage Dad? Purrrrr Purrrrr (rubs scent from face on tv) Purr Purr CRASH MRERRRREREOW!!!!!

Sadly nowadays the stands that come in a box should just be used temporarily tool you get a more permanent solution. You can get done really good mounts that use the VESA mounts at the back.

I would never trust the standard stands, they have way too much wobble to them.

I agree. The tipping threat on a TV is almost exclusively front to back, not side to side. Putting the support legs closer to the middle, but still spaced a third of the width of the TV should be totally adequate. I suspect it's an aesthetics thing now.

I've seen the design and I thought it made good sense mechanically, but I hadn't considered this issue. I wonder if stand designs are getting wider too, as a result.

I'm curious what picture you saw that made you think the legs would be any different.

They think everyone wants to mount them to the wall now, the legs are like the cheapest possible "courtesy" they're willing to include. It's super annoying, I really don't want the thing on my wall with a bunch of wires hanging down

I'd actually love to wall mount but as a renter, not possible.

Currently living with elderly family and she also won't have a bar of a wall mount.

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Cut a hole behind the TV and another where you want the wires to come out, then fish the wires through the wall. Finish off the holes with cable access brush plates like this:

(Either that, or use keystone jacks and separate cables of the appropriate type within the wall.)

I really don't want to cut a bunch of (or even just 2) holes in my wall though. If I rearrange the room I'll have to make more holes and it's just too much

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why are all of the 48" tv screens bigger than my 32" bedside table?

Have you tried moving it an inch to the left?

😅 I kid.

You can buy a vesa stand mount though fairly cheap.

Sony currently do a cool thing with their stands where you can place them in 3 or so different position along the tv if you wanted. Finally someone thinking!

that's why i like the lg stand

Part of the reason I went with a smaller (ha, 55 inch is ”smaller") lg OLED because it had one central base stand, opposed to the larger 65 in OLED that didn't have just one central stand.

I have an LG OLED 65" with a central stand.

Just got a 77" LG OLED with a center stand

Which model did you get? Price?

How dare the tv manufacturers and homesense not discuss each other the exact width of possibility you would purchase both products.

If feet at the edge of the tv (done for stability) is a stupid design, what would you do differently?

Feet spaced half as far apart. Basically as stable, only a quarter of the length hangs over past the feet on each side.

DON'T BE FOOLED! This post was made by the cat! It wants narrower TV stands so it can knock them over easier when its owner forgets to feed it!

My 2008 Samsung had a great center stand. My new TCL has those little feet. Solution is spend another $30 or so on a center stand.

People really out here at stupid levels of angry now, eh?

This community is about mildly infuriating: The little stuff that triggers us.

Damn, this is some next level entitled, petulant, energy.

If you're gonna complain, at least try to do it constructively. As opposed to... Whatever this drivel is.

This is the conspiracy theorist in me, but it feels a little like they intentionally made it that way to sell more mounts.

Just got my first TV since my old vacuum tube stopped working in the early 90s. 55" Sony flat screen. It has gour fixtures for its stands: a pair that's narrow close to the centre, and a pair if you want a wide stance. I didn't mind the wide option, but I appreciated having a choice.

also the Samsung manual would tell you to use the tv on a platform as deep as it's height???? wtf

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Noticed this trend like a decade ago with LG. They used to have a stand in the middle which was much better design wise.

LG C TVs have a center stand...

Sorry for my ignorance but what's a C TV.

LG C1, C2, C3, they're models, their G series also has a center stand. What people don't understand is that center stands need to be very heavy, they have a separate chunk of steel that's added to the base so the TV is stable, that makes them much more expensive than four plastic legs placed at the extremities. So the people that complain about the legs are also the same people that would look at the 100$ price difference and just not buy the model with the center stand.

The G series do not include any stand. They are only intended to be wall mounted. You can buy a center stand that is identical to the C series if you want to though.

Really? Interesting, I saw the pictures on LG's website without a stand and I figured it was only for style since review sites had the C series style stand!

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Came across the same issue when I set up my dads new bedroom telly for him, I bodged it up with a plank on top of the dresser it was sitting on.

Get a board and put it beneath the thing?

Agree. I’m canvassing for a 65” TV and I need to include the entertainment stand in the budget because it won’t fit on the current one I have for my 43”.

Usually, It's to distribute the weight. Cheaper brands won't put the weight in the base needed.my LG oled came with a massive but narrow base. I mounted to the wall with a pull and tilt mount and sold the base on offer up for $50.

Does it have VESA mount?

Most modern tvs have some kind of vesa, so you can just spend the 50 bucks on a mount, like this one.

HOW MUCH? It costs like 10$ for simple stand and 20-30$ for fancy one with all adjustments in the world.

To be fair I can't see what mount you linked, because walmart desn't want their site to load in my country.

I just typed in "vesa tv stand" and clicked on the first image. Weird how it doesn't load for you, it loads just fine for me from the Netherlands.

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It's cheaper to make it that way. Less materials needed.

They want you to stop being poor and get better furniture if you want a big tv