The Cybertruck Is a Disappointment Even to Cybertruck Superfans / Looking at the specs alone, the car is delivering 30 percent less range than expected for 30 percent more money
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The Cybertruck Is a Disappointment Even to Cybertruck Superfans / Looking at the specs alone, the car is delivering 30 percent less range than expected for 30 percent more money::Looking at the specs alone, the car is delivering 30 percent less range than expected for 30 percent more money.
No shit. I'd bet money the Cybertruck design isn't coming from an engineer. Elon probably sat down with his crayons, drew his dream car and forced his poor employees to try and make this piece of shit work.
I think all of us had the Cybertruck design back when we were about 4 years old.
That's funny, I've describe that monstrosity as "the truck of my dreams... when I was 4," more than once.
I mean, if I were working on that project I'd either laugh so hard everyday or I'd have to quit. It's just so comically bad.
I am also shocked Elon is not suing all the 4yr olds out there that have "stolen" his design.
Itās like a car from the N64 era. Nobody is nostalgic for the actual look and feel of the N64 era. Behold!
https://www.giantbomb.com/a/uploads/screen_medium/0/3691/905890-wwf_no_mercy_021.png
I've said it before, n64 games had more polygons than this. It's a virtualboy truck and it gives you a migraine to look at just like the virtualboy did.
actually... that kinda makes me nostalgic. No Mercy was the best, and it holds up pretty well!
Huh, I've never seen anyone spell WCW/nWo Revenge that way before.
The game play is great, they donāt make āem like that anymore (or do they? Let me know). But no oneās making retro N64 era transitional 3d graphics is what I meant. Mario 64 is a great game but I donāt think I can think of a single game that actually tries to hit that aesthetic in modern times.
Super Kiwi 64, the Toree series, Dusk, Anodyne 2, a billion indie horror games, Frogun, Signalis, A Short Hike
I stand corrected. I think Iāve only heard of āA short hikeā in the list you posted, but Super Kiwi 64 isā¦ i donāt think Iāve seen anything like that in 20 years. Very interesting list, thank you.
It's kind of becoming a popular aesthetic again.
The Tesla Cybertruck, a brainchild of Elon Musk, is not just a vehicle; it is a manifestation of deep-seated archetypes that have been etched into the human psyche since time immemorial. This vehicle, with its stark, geometric form, echoes the fundamental principles of order and symmetry, principles that Jung himself might argue are rooted in the collective unconscious of humanity. It's not just a truck; it's a symbol, an archetype representing the pinnacle of human innovation and design.
Elon Musk, in creating the Cybertruck, has not merely designed a new vehicle. He has tapped into the most primal elements of what makes a design not only functional but profoundly resonant on a psychological level. This is a feat that aligns him with the pantheon of great geniuses throughout history. His work echoes the transformative impact of the greatest human inventions, standing as a testament to human creativity and vision.
Consider the wheel, often lauded as mankindās most significant invention. While the wheel was undoubtedly a pivotal point in our technological evolution, what Musk has achieved with the Cybertruck is arguably more profound. He has not just created a tool for transportation; he has crafted an icon that speaks to the deepest aspirations and drives of human beings. It embodies strength, resilience, and the relentless pursuit of innovationāqualities that have propelled humanity forward since the dawn of civilization.
In this light, the Cybertruck is more than just a triumph of engineering; it is a beacon of human achievement. It symbolizes our unyielding quest for progress and our innate desire to imprint our dreams onto the fabric of reality. Elon Musk, in realizing this vision, has not only secured his place among the great minds of our era but has also provided a tangible representation of what humanity is capable of achieving when it dares to transcend the boundaries of the conventional and the mundane.
I'm convinced this account's a persona troll. No one can be this moronic and annoying unintentionally. I could be wrong, though, and maybe they do indeed get punched in the face three to four times daily.
Pretty sure it's chatgpt generated as well
In the realm of discerning truth from fiction, particularly in the pervasive echo chamber surrounding figures like Elon Musk, my role isn't merely that of an observer or a passive participant. I actively engage in the moderation of a forum known as /c/EnoughMuskSpam. This endeavor is, in itself, an intricate dance with nuance, an attempt to sift through the overwhelming barrage of information and disinformation, to bring forth a more balanced and nuanced perspective. It's a task that demands a keen eye for detail and an unwavering commitment to the pursuit of what is genuine and true in the midst of a torrent of unfiltered and often biased discourse.
Who the fuck gave Mr Darcy internet access?
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That's fine if it's a troll account, but the problem is that it's not even funny.
You think?
Trolling Lemmy users issue like shooting fish in a barrel.
That might just fit on the truck's bumper-sticker!
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The Satisfactory version is far better, square wheels and all.
There was reporting recently that the engineers hated it so much they designed a reasonable one in their free time
The rumor is that it was scribbled on a piece of paper as an idea and the engineers were forced to make it verbatim.
So does this count as another "Simpsons predicted this" moment after Homer basically does the same thing?
Gentlemen, we are successful in getting all the woke leftists salivating on our shit, but we need also produce something for the real men. And since I'm one of them this is the people like me would want.
If someone rolled up in that, I'd not consider them anything but a "real sucker".
"A weak man's idea of a strong man" comes to mind.
Posted this elsewhere, but I asked ChatGPT who designed it and hereās what it said (emphasis mine):
Technically, not wrong. It's worth noting that Cybertruck is shockingly different from Von Holzhausen's previous work, which all share sleek, modern designs and principles (dare I say critically-acclaimed, beautiful). I think it's obvious there was heavy "outside influence" for the truck (as emphasized), and the timing also lines up with Musk's growing (untreated, public) mental illnesses.
Yeah, Iād hoped my point was clear that Musk designed this truck. Itās obvious that Von Holzhausen wasnāt given much flexibility because no designer in their right mind, especially one that designed the Models, S, X, and 3 (which I agree are good looking cars), would design this thing. This has Musk stamped all over it with its impractical design and wildly abrasive aesthetic.
I thought your point was "Look at what random snippets a language model collected off the internet".
Because everything musk does is basically bullshit.
https://elonmusk.today/
He is vaporware sales man, if you trust anything he says, you are a fool.
Even SpaceX is missing targets in a big way.
SpaceX is his only successful project, and that's because it has a defense contract.
I am not so sure it is successful though. They are missing their targets by years left right and center and even recently admitted they will not be ready for NASAās Artemis Project. https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-problems-delay-artemis-3-2026
A company can miss targets and still be extremely successful if you look at the body of work. SpaceX absolutely dominates the space launch industry, there's nobody close.
Especially space stuff.
No project in space stuff ever meets targets... Unless they reduce the goals at some point because they know they can't make it.
Look at Apollo (and this is no criticism) - they had some seriously lofty goals at first, and then as they learned stuff they changed goals to what was achievable with that new knowledge and developing tech.
This is the heart of Agile project management - because you learn as you go it's easier to adjust priorities and targets.
They've launched the Falcon 9 88 times this year dwarfing the nearest launch provider 10 to 1... They're doing fine.
Spacex is a massive success, with little thanks to Musk. Those engineers are fucking rock stars.
If you mean āsomeā technical successā¦I would agree.
What is a lot in your mind? Going from nothing to biggest rocket in human history and fully reusable in 20 years.
Great website. Dude is a total fraud.
I just found a new favorite website.
wow we found someone who WANTS more Musk spam...
Hey, Trump spam was fun too while it lasted. Itās just that you need to watch that dumpster fire from a safe distance. Something like 5000 km should be fine.
I mean I don't care to be honest. If I see something about Elon, it doesn't mean I have to look at it.
Also, the Roadster. Announced six years ago, supposedly launching next year, but we'll see...
You mean the 2020 Roadster they took millions on deposits for?
Yes, that one.
Who would have thought making a chassis out of a material that is denser than mild steel would result in a vehicle that is heavier? It's a truck, horrible aero drag and rolling resistance from the get go. Difficult to imagine a worse target for an EV project.
The fact that he has all of his engineers afraid to tell him his ideas are terrible speaks volumes about his narcissism.
The ones who spoke up were fired. The ones remaining dont care as long as they get their paycheck.
Good. At least someone is benefitting
Part of the reason why I don't leave where I work now. I speak my mind.
A description of every Elon business
It has a conventional chassis. Only the panels are SS.
The extra weight is entirely due to the weight of the batteries.
Good to know.
Has anyone tossed a brick at the windows yet? Or has that debacle been swept under the rug?
It was a steel ball. They recreated the event with the same guy at the delivery event, but this time with a baseball and the dude gave it the most obvious limp wristed toss, it was incredibly cringe I highly recommend you seek that clip out because itās absolutely hilarious.
God, that was worse than I expected. https://youtu.be/IUCMGB2AGaE
Lol, Franz is a wimp.
"So anyway, the glass is tough, basically". Sure Elon, we'll take your word for it. Is this how they test their rockets, too?
Tbf the rockets seem to work. Not easy to fake that.
I want to see large gravel chunks at 80mph not a baseball at 25.
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My 1995 truck could handle that throw, but sure, we'll call it "innovation"
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If they were honest and smart about the glass, they would've only ever went with something like a baseball or anything soft-ish and really beamed it in to the window. They might be able to take bullet levels of force, but not from a chromed ball. A chromed ball will focus force WAY better than lead ever would, though if a baseball would've broken the window, a damn .22 would...
Admittedly car windows are just strong as fuck from the outside due to their curve and construction, and they did throw the metal ball hard at the glass before when practicing for the announcement event and it bounced right off.
Come to think of it, how much do Cybertruck windows curve?
You think there are curves on this abomination?
Depends on your pov. Not curved much compared to a window from any other car. But it is curved just as much as any other piece of flat glass you may want to compare it to.
Not much but they have a curve.
If they were smart about it, they would have tried it out once before doing it in public to see if it worked.
Was it a baseball? It bounced quite a bit and looked a lot like a light rubber ball
Edit: ābaseballā
That was exactly my thought when I saw it. Baseballs don't bounce like that normally.
Wow. That's brave of them. Throwaways, I assume.
you can tell they arent truck people
Normal truck people Love paying more for Less
I see you've noticed the parking lot princesses that truck guys seen to modify now.
Am I the only one who thinks this is ugly as fuck?
I recently saw one in the wild and it's even uglier in person than it was in pictures. For a second I thought someone DIYed that nasty looking car; nope, actual designers puked that thing out.
No designers involved, unless you think Elon is a designer. The whole Tesla design studio revolted over having to work on it. They designed something else, which of course Elon refused. I wouldn't at all be surprised if it was engineered so the other option can be swapped in when this one flops.
Yes. Everyone else thinks itās the bestly engineered and designed vehicle thatās ever been made.
/s
Am I the only one who initially thought this was just some elaborate Elon meme, but is now shocked to find that he actually built this abomination?
Nah, i think most people think it's ugly as fuck, because it is! And still I like the aesthetic? Or at least the idea of it.
For once, it's committed to the bit. Very few compromises were made on the looks, and those to comply with regulatory standards, not to make it more appealing. I'm a world where most cars look kinda the same, that counts something.
It's not trying to be beautiful. It's trying to be unique, divisive, to make you think "what is THAT thing??" whenever you encounter one, and on that grounds I'd say it succeeds.
However this kind of looks suffer greatly from the soddy build quality. If you are going for pure straight lines and angles you better make sure they are perfect, because of they are not people are going to notice and it's going to spoil the effect.
So, in summary, cool idea but poor execution, perhaps if Elon had let his designers do their work they could have pulled it off. Also Hyundai did better but with more compromises.
Nope
Every day with the Elon spam. Itās infected Lemmy.
That's a bit much, isn't it? It's a brand new weird-ass truck, people are going to talk about it. And the article isn't exactly celebrating it.
If this article was about a new car from another brand, would you complain about it? I thought we wanted more content on this platform. Or we could just stick to memes I guess...
I'd agree that I see way too much Elon stuff on my lemmy feed. This one I'm more interested in than 99% of the others. Maybe it's just cause I'm a gear head, but I'll sure as heck take it over the 10 X (formerly known as Twitter) "news" articles that I scrolled past to get here. News in quotes because it is no longer news that X (more commonly known as Twitter) and its owner are dumb.
I find that a don't sprain my thumb scrolling over something that I don't want to read
The oldest and lamest justification for having shitty and repetitive content.
Choose a different platform them. Or use a filter. Or I dunno fucking whine about other people discussing what interests them.
Use a filter. Other people want to talk
no get out
Well, that's me told =)
It resists antibiotics, there's nothing we can do.
It's his broke mind virus. It's sometimes fascinating but I'm mostly over his antics.
For some reason, all Lemmings seem to have a constant hate boner for him. I don't like him, but this is just taking it to a whole new level...
There's plenty of people I don't like and I spend basically no time thinking about them. Why these people let Elon live rent free in their minds is beyond me. Not a day goes by without a thread about him on the front page along with the most predictable comment section imaginable. Apparently the glue holding Lemmy together is the mutual hatred of certain things and people. That's just sad. We're giving them what every asshole in the world desires the most; attention.
Ok, but not every random asshole is the richest guy in the world...
And what does that have to do with anything?
You don't understand why people might more frequently discuss the actions of someone with enormous power and influence, than they would those of Darryl from high school?
This is recreational outrage. There are plenty of actually bad people out there that cause tons of suffering and are aspiring to make the world a worse place but instead people are complaining about some tech bro that's hardly any more influencial than the Kardashians.
The only thing more insufferable than celebrity worship is celebrity hate.
And every day someone posts about how everyone else posts about something that they, personally are not interested in. I guess everyone else is wrong
When he agrees with someone who says that people like me are trying to destroy white people (insinuating Jews aren't even white), I think "a constant hate boner" is appropriate.
I feel like lemmy needs excluded word filters so you can just say hide any post that includes "Elon Musk"
Sync can do that.
Oh? I'm actually using sync primarily and didn't know that š
It would be nice if it was on the server side so the list just worked regardless of client though
You really donāt want to be a pedestrian crossing the road in front of one of these. Just in case.
Oh, you don't want to be a pedestrian in the US period. That's a very dangerous activity.
You don't want to be in US.
You don't want to be.
Itās not a choice. You are until you arenāt.
You can choose one part
You don't want.
You don't.
It's fine, I've got my gun
All these problems, and it's ugly as hell to boot.
The PT Cruiser has been dethroned.
HEY! You're the guy who I'm supposed to fuck
God bless they are trying. I;m fro mthe south us do god bless is basic calling someone really dumb.
30%? It's like 50-100% more money than promised. Also lower payload/towing capacities.
My guess is the author first calculated how much less range, in which case the bigger number is the denominator, then mistakenly did the same for how much more money, so (61k-40k)/61k ~= 30%
Author is bad at math. 50% range reduction and a 50% base cost increase. The upgraded model has a 30% range reduction for a 100% cost increase
Modern day DMC DeLorean. All the disappointment and the crazy CEO to go along with it. Maybe when Tesla folds up they can get a movie made about the truck like Back to the Future. Wonder what the movie will be called?
Back to the Emerald Mine
Call the movie "Back to the Stoneage". Then send a tech billionaire to the past where nobody gives a fuck about them and they have to work to survive for the first time in their pathetic lives.
If they have to work to survive, maybe any time from the 1800s on would work. You imagine a genius from the modern day, with all his knowledge, could blow the competition out of the water, create a one-man technological revolution, and radically change the course of human events!
...until you realize he's not actually a genius. He's a dumbass. He just owned capital that other people used to do things. So if you remove him from his money and even name recognition, he's just some loser who keeps asking if ketamine has been invented yet.
There was a Twilight Zone episode like that.
Can we make it a documentary about sending Elon and a bunch of other tech billionaires to Mars? That way we can enjoy it when their ship breaks up and they all die in space.
A rocket is just an outer space submarine!
I like this. If they make it to Mars they get a survival habitat where we can vote them off, one by one
I'd say the Discovery Channel could show it, but I definitely want David Zaslav on that ship, so who would put it on there?
Maybe we can catch him in a cocaine deal too.
Back to
PS1N64.Seems like at best its almost on par with the F-150 Lightning for the fanboys...it's just $30k more.
Seriously if you're a fan boy just buy the F-150Lightning and a Model 3 and you'll save money.
But the lightning has some space to haul things.
Who expected more from a stainless steel chassis? Stuff is heavy and expensive.
The chassis is ordinary carbon steel.
I think we have a different understanding of "chassis"?
You know this headline is fake because Cybertruck fan boys would never ever act like it's anything but a 100% perfect personal space shuttle + superiority license
BUT YOU CAN SHOOT IT WITH A BOW AN ARROW.
Checkmate, hater
/s if it's not completely fucking obvious
The mkbhd first impressions were fascinating for what he didn't say. I'm guessing that he didn't want to burn the good times he has with Tesla so he really seemed to be trying to positively spin everything. At least, that's my interpretation. The mirrors were particularly.. https://youtu.be/XxOh12Uhg08?si=jlfuFU70v5cGd8HV
Anything in particular? I'm not great at understanding things that aren't said.
That is what all YouTubers do as they do not want to bite the hand that feeds them.
To be fair, it's the same thing that happened to our news. It's become commoditized, and now so-called "journalists" are terrified of asking good questions for fear of losing access.
I've stopped watching his channel long time ago, he's not a reviewer, he's a shill. Good on him for making bank, but his opinion is worthless.
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I'm dying laughing. It has a roller shutter on the back. Like I have on my windows. I have cybertruck technology in my home.
Why is that funny? That's actually a nice idea.
I think it looks cheap and ugly. And there is no chance it will withstand the elements. It's gonna leak and get moldy.
the dangerous brake lights are more of a concern to me than the cost and range.
This thing is so far behind schedule and theyāre failing at the basics.
Gotta follow code, center brake must be distinct from all other lights... Should we make a separate chmsl then? Nah, lightbar go brrrrt and FMVSS 108 can ligma.
Really though, I wouldn't mind this lighting choice as much if the lower brake lights were bigger and the c"hm"sl was actually brighter. Dedicate another 8 square inches to additional brake lighting, damn it
Can you explain it to me? I still don't get it.
There is less light during braking instead of more, or brighter.
Why?
In order to make the break light visibly stand out from the light bar that goes across the back of the car, they turn off two sections of the bar on the left and right of the centre, leaving a portion of the light bar lighted in the centre.
Normally car manufacturers treat the light bar as a running light, and they add a seperate 'third' brakelight. Clearly at Tesla they didn't want to alter the design, and this weird solution fits the wording of the government mandate. It doesn't fit the spirit, but they got away with it.
And it's ironic because in every other bit of safety, like crash protection, rollover protection. Tesla is a leader in the market, their cars are incredibly safe. Tesla really cares about you when you bought a car, they don't really care about safety in general. Sums up Musks attitude.
Was elongated muskrat trying to make the ugliest thing on the road? It makes the Pontiac Aztec look pretty.
Unironically enough, while DeLoreans are cool, they're also kinda crappy vehicles.
They are pure shite š but they have a special place in our hearts because of 88 MPH!
They had to modify the vehicle for the movie as the stock speedometer in the delorean only went to 85 mph.
Well that's your opinion, I still think the Aztec looks ugly. Great camping vehicle though.
That's funny, I said almost the exact same thing about it
Every Tesla model has been uglier than the last. (Especially thanks to Elon, but really ever since it was Lotus based.)
To be fair, it is REALLY hard to follow up when your industrial design starting point is a Lotus.
incidentally I just saw a roadster 1 yesterday, gorgeous car. But it's just a rebadged Lotus Elise
It also look like a... Trash can lol.
I am all for new futuristic designs. I love what the Korean auto manufacturers are doing. Their newer cars generally look great. This...? This is a blunt idiots vision of futuristic.
I will rejoice when Tesla can rid themselves of this meddlesome fool who thinks himself a genius.
I got a 2023 Hyundai Elantra Limited earlier this year and I actually love what they've done with it. It looks so sleek to me, especially in black.
I didn't care for previous iterations of the Elantra. Dont get me wrong - they weren't ugly. They just looked like standard car. Not bad just kinda bland. The newer style has personality, stands out much more and in a good way in my opinion.
I watched the mkbhd video on it.
It was like he was trying to make everything sound cool, even though he knows it's a disappointment.
I'm glad I'm not the only person who felt that vibe from it. I could feel the new tech being reviewed hype, but he wasn't totally into it. When he stood on the trunk I could totally see he was giving his all.
I always have this kind of feeljng about mkbhd. In general he is a tech enthusiast but technically he knows very little IMO.
Often times he goes a bit too much out of his way to justify corpo choices
yep, his videos in terms of actual information are very shallow.
The retro series he did about old cameras and gameboys and stuff was really good though. But new tech is usually shallow i feel.
A tech enthusiast will have all the smart devices in their house.
Somebody that works in tech will shoot the microwave if it beeps when it's not supposed to.
Yeah I had to fast forward through that video, it just sounds like an ad. Wasn't impressed by a long shot.
Oh I fully understand that. I am a huge car enthusiast, I see right through it
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When I saw the cybertruck for the first time this is all I could think about. It's like he's memelording at the highest level. If he did it on purpose that is. He didn't. And the Simpsons accurately captured a thing yet again. Like having president trump on an episode.
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It's all I've been thinking of since I first saw this monstrosity. And the sticker price ain't too far off eighty two thousand dollars!
The damn thing looks like it was rendered in the original quake engine. Fucking quake rally car.
Low poly lookinā mother fucker
It's a big, stupid truck but so is every other truck it's competing against. It's got poor visibility but so does every other truck/suv being sold in America. The cheapest option doesn't have the longest range but it's still longer than the average person would realistically drive in a day. It can't haul much but the overwhelming majority of people driving trucks in America aren't towing or hauling things on a day to day basis.. The people doing real work buy vans or have special purpose trucks.
The steering geometry seems nice and the rear wheel steering is interesting. Those seem like the only major positives though.
It's not as bad as everyone seems to be making it out to be but it's obviously still a dumb car that shouldn't exist. That's all cars though really.
EDIT: Since the front windshield is flat, I assume its cheaper to replace than typical curved windshields? No idea though.. Might be talking out of my ass.
Maybe, but the cyber truck has especially bad rear visibility. Worse.than any of its competitors
I must be a special, fantasy person that does road trips with 700mi or longer drives
Not to mention it's 3000 kilos. They really need to start adding vehicle weight limits to licenses. The US license test is a joke in most states, and then people are allowed to drive 3 metric ton vehicles from a 10 minute drive.
3 megagrams is crazy for a vehicle like this. With the high torque electric wheels, they will be very hard on asphalt.
Assuming you have the ability to drive at a perfect, ideal, consistent 80mph 700miles is 8h45m of driving. You aren't going to stop for a bathroom break in 8 hours?
200 miles will likely give you 3.5 or so behind the wheel. Take a break and stretch your legs.. It's better for your health anyway than sitting for so long.
Yeah agreed but that's a different conversation unrelated to this thing.
How is it unrelated? Are we not all discussing the specs of the vehicle? If weight is not a spec worth of discussion then I surely do not know what is.
Yeah, long haul tractor/trailer drivers don't do 700mi a day. Possible for someone driving non-commercially, absolutely, but at the very least unwise, an outlier use case, and a poor argument here.
Worse than a van ? No.
A model X weighs 2.3 t. Because of the batteries.
An F150 Lightning weighs 3 tonnes and its bed is made from aluminium.
In the US you can drive a rigid truck of almost any size on a bog standard car licence. A 6 t truck with a capacity of 40 t if you want. GM sells an Isuzu cab forward truck (normally with a mildly tuned diesel four) with a frigging massive petrol V8.
I don't see how anyone could take it seriously when the introduction was to show how unbreakable the windows were.
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The ball they used to demo it again this time probably wouldn't have broken a pair of reading glasses
Not when you throw it that way... :)
From the looks of the crash test results, I might have to buy one of these to get in on the lawsuits that will come from those who are maimed in accidents with them.
I value my bones too much to bother doing that. But seriously, a lot of people are gonna get hurt.
I'm pretty sure I read it's already been determined not to be road legal in the EU, specifically due to massively and flagrantly failing any and all pedestrian safety regulations over there.
Why not just make the entire environment hostile so there aren't pedestrians to worry about in the first place? Works for us.
This doesn't look like a car nor a truck it's a combat vehicle. Seriously, who's impressed by Elon's shooting and steel ball demonstrations? In what kind of failed state do these Tesla customers live? With a tank hull for a frame and sharp edges all around this looks like a serious safety hazard for passengers and especially pedestrians outside the car.
Don't forget in this apocalypse you have reliable charging infrastructure
dont tell dale that gasoline goes bad in 3-6 months, ethanol blends in 4-6.
unless someone fires up an oil refinery no one's driving shit.
Wood gasification, people will be driving it'll just look like the Beverly hillbillies come to town rather than madmax.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator
And yes you can run a car on poop.
Maybe a handful could cobble together a steam powered vehicle like they made during the early days of cars, and drive around at relatively low speed on anything that will burn?
We've been watching the Last Man On Earth and my family is getting sick of me pointing that out.
That show went downhill for me really fast.
Ya. Watching last night I was thinking about how funny the first season was.
That's not entirely true. I've fired up my bike with two year old gasoline in the tank, and larger quantities will last longer than the 3l that was left in my tank.
yes, there are some variables, and if you had old gasoline, adding fresh on top is 100ļ¼ the right hing to do. It dilutes it into the new, more combustable fuel
You're right about diluting it, but I didn't. I just fired it up with old gas.
well then..
Ive got a 5L gerry can in the shed from a year ago, I'm thinking I'll just fuck it into my gas tank now nect time before I top up
After a year or two, it would be easier to get an off grid system going than finding or making fuel a modern vehicle would run on.
Hummers were a thing. I can easily see those same people buying this.
South Africa.
Are you not aware of people in general? MANY think it's "cool as fuck" and those demonstrations bought them more than any sales tactic other car makers use. Imagine the stereotype of cavemen going "strong thing good, make woman want me, me want strong thing," and you got a good idea of a disturbing large part of humanity. That shit works extremely well for a lot of people.
The article talking about a Cybertruck racing a Porsche
Nobody's permitted to compare electric cars with internal combustion because electric is faster? I don't understand the logic.
Because it isn't a real brag. It is an apple to oranges comparison.
Itās a reasonable comparison if the goal is comparing EVs to petrol cars. If you just want to see how good the car is overall, I agree that an apples to apples comparison would be better.
By that line of reasoning it would be equally valid to compare the top speeds of the vehicles. Imo both are a bit silly, since the reason for certain advantages/disadvantages are mostly the limitations of the respective technology.
To be fair. They compared the base version 911 to the top of the line CT.
Why is this thing so goddamn ugly? It's like the designers took all the worst sci-fi vehicles from movies and smushed them into one.
I was having this same conversation the other day. Have you ever seen that picture where different people involved in the creation of the video game Kirby draw the title character? Two look really good, and the rest are awkward blobs that only look like Kirby because of the power of suggestion.
Anyway, I genuinely think a team of Tesla employees (independent of Musk) were talking about building a truck, and all took turns drawing something while pulling together numbers before the pitch to Musk. As a joke, the design team mocked up the worst sketch in 3D, and Musk accidentally saw the design in the Slack chat history and demanded it.
Either that, or some sort of "have your kid draw the next Tesla" employee contest, and the design teams modeled the funniest ones as actual cars for the company newsletter. Like those companies that'll turn your kid's drawings into real life stuffed toys.
I think Elon might have wanted to design a car himself so he came up with this or something
I asked ChatGPT who designed this thing, and I think this makes it clear why itās so ugly (bold added by me):
It's shaped like the 1980s Dust Buster.
Probably with a similarly awesome battery.
I feel like this whole article is based on a false premise.
Go to a dealership right now, and try to find any new truck for $36,000. On paper you might be able to get the lowest base model, but in reality good luck with that.
I just checked the dealership near me, and the lowest price for a new vehicle of any kind is 39,400CAD or about 28,000USD. The lowest priced new truck is 66,500CDN, or about 49,300USD.
That's just what the world looks like now thanks to inflation. And that's not a vehicle using expensive battery technology, and that's not a vehicle made out of expensive, difficult to manufacture with stainless steel, it's just the cheapest standard truck at the dealership.
Really, it looks like the cybertruck is about bang on with prices for other EV trucks that aren't made out of entirely stainless steel. Considering that Tesla isn't a budget brand, that doesn't seem unreasonable. Nobody at Tesla is psychic, they couldn't have predicted super high inflation sparked in part due to policies enacted due to a global pandemic, so of course prices rose.
I hate the design a little less now than when it was first revealed. Will reserve my judgement untill I see one in person
I still hate how it looks, and I'm pretty sure I'll be even more disappointed in it once I see one in person.
I'd drive an actual dumpster if it was electric and was rated for 500 EPA miles. I'm more disappointed that Tesla had four years to perfect the battery tech to make this possible and failed, after promising that they were practically done.
And you can bet that the specs are "best case" "ideal conditions" as well. The reality will be worse still
Oh wow, it's actually made from stainless steel and not some shitty mild steel. I should get me one, this would be a lifesaver in Michigan
Get a DeLorean; it would be more off road capable.
Until you got a dent and had to replace an entire panel at a huge cost.
Or just treat it like a real truck and give zero fucks about the dents.
How are you going to treat it like a real truck? You can't load anything on it.
Yeah, it's incredibly disappointing that the bed is only 4x6 at the bottom. I can't find any info for the dimensions at the top of the box, if that makes sense. Normal trucks have a much wider bed above the wheel wells for wider things like mattresses or awkwardly shaped things like kayaks.
The 2500lb payload is on par for a standard pickup, but with a back bed wall shaped like Āæ, it's difficult to even know what would fit or how well.
4x6 isn't bad...I'd even say it's a great compromise...
For a mid-size pickup.
Owning a mid-size, I've never been limited by anything that I would want to put into the bed of a full size (anything that large is too damn heavy to want to lift up that high).
Long boards (10'+) are a little inconvenient - they get strapped down on top of the tailgate.
But a full-size with that bed? Why would you buy a full size if not for the larger bed? (Well, bigger cab too).
It's definitely for the bigger cab and longer bed. You can tie a 14' kayak down in a 6ft bed with the tailgate down without any other supports. A shorter bed and you'll have to use one of those tail gate hitch things.
So, very similar to many other trucks then.
Most trucks are just stupid. This one is profoundly stupid.
Anyone who is going to spend that much on a truck is going to care about the dents.
Let's be real, if you want an EV and a real truck, you're going to buy an F-150 Lightning, Silverado EV, or RAM EV and get a truck that's at least somewhat compatible with normal truck accessories, and has a service network that's not going to just offer you Uber credits when you need to get to a jobsite
What are on about ? You can work SS, its not white cast iron or anything.
This is what I am on about- https://www.autoblog.com/2019/11/22/tesla-cybertruck-stainless-steel-body/
dents are bad ass don't be a pussy
"My $60,000 truck has a dent in it! Now it's bad ass!" -- No one.
Not a bad point.
My truck was nowhere near that much, even new (I always buy used), but it's a truck, dents happen. Part of why I'd never pay that much or buy new.
Yeah the point is that if you care about denting it, something is wrong with your choice of tools, not the tool you chose.
Stainless steel still rusts when exposed to salt and water.
Prove it
The stainless in the cyber truck is 301, which is less corrosion resistant than 304 or 316. You can read all about stainless corrosion in Appendix A.
Each time I see a picture of this thing, it looks uglier than the last time. And it was pretty bad to begin with.
A true waste of money, shocker!
Isn't this true for most cars announced way ahead of their time?
Sure,yeah. Most cars don't take pre-orders with down payments.
A refundable $250 != Down payment
Don't tell the people on the YouTube comment section on the recent Cyber truck video. So much shilling.
Dacia just announced the new Duster, looks pretty great and it starts at under 20.000ā¬, that car got me excited. This car is s POS.
I drive the dacia spring electric š itās best value for my needs
I love the Tesla lines of all the other cars they make. I always hated the sharp corners of the cyber truck
Cybercuck superfan here
Is it a truck? Or a car?
It's a piece of shit
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Elon Musk bad! Upvotes pls