With the plethora of great games getting released every month on PC, it's very hard to feel any excitment for a game that will probably release in 2027 on PC. It doesn't help that GTA Online left a sour taste, and even the single player story was only great for the first few hours then you just start doing heists for the fbi for the rest of the game. Considering we're only getting a cinematic trailer after all this wait, I'm expecting already multiple delays or cyberpunk-level of disaster at launch
Man youre so right.... You know they are going console 1st.. then when sales die down they will release on PC.
Same rinse and repeat bull shit as before.
My question is going to be how online will this one be? If it's two separate deals like 5 then cool... If not. I'm probably going to pass.
Yeah that's my question. Like many others, I grew up with the single player only GTA experience. I have so many core gaming memories just fucking about in GTA 3/vice city etc. I just really hope we get a decent single player experience.
Me too. I'll probably not buy it the first year it's on PC... Just to see how it all shakes out
The shark card whale bonanza killed any excitement I had for the franchise. I know they are gonna just milk the shit out of it, and it will probably cut into the quality of the game/experience. On the plus side, smaller games like Last Train Home kick ass and are a ton of fun, and I'm looking forward to another indie game coming out next year.
I suspect given the success of GTA online their priorities have shifted and they'll want this on as many platforms as possible on release. They're a GTA online company now, units sold are a secondary concern.
Take-Two already announced on their website there will be a time-exclusive release for PS5 and Xbox initially.
My guess is they're going to treat online like a separate game release, like they did for GTA V and RDR2, and get out a PC version when that happens.
Yeah, I am really tired of the double dipping attempts of trying to sell the game twice.
As a former Floridian, this is definitely triggering my PTSD as they seriously nailed the atmosphere of Vice City (Miami). Curious if the main characters will be as well written as V's were
Please not, V's characters were kinda meh
Michael and Trevor were pretty well written, it was just the story that was kind of lacking IMHO
Ok, I think you got a point there.
But Franklin is a very plain yes man character.
I'm more interested of how much satire, sarcasm, irony and parody they bring into gta 6. Not really care about graphics since whats shaping up gta is the satirical of the world especially usa.
If they still keep those in check on release, rockstar still had the balls.
Even though it is coming from rockstar main studios, I just hope it won't be end up like Saints Row reboot which turn out become massive joke and the volition had to close up lmao.
Honestly, if Rockstar can make a modern GTA equivalent of Saints Row 2, they’d be golden. Which is kind of ironic in a sense since Saints Row was originally the “GTA at home” clone but became amazing.
In a sense of gritty crime story telling? Yeah I'd agree. Things that make SR1 & 2 differs from GTA is that they dont shy away from goofiness and let players having fun with lots of side activity but at same time they also have coherent direction where the story heading at (like Yakuza series).
Though I would be more cautious in writing as the only veteran staff of GTA creation that stays on Rockstar is Sam Houser. Dan Houser (his brother), Leslie Benzies and some others key people had leave Rockstar games due to some internal issues as far as I know.
Just the trailer itself includes two direct parodies of real Florida people (the tatted guy on TV and the woman with two hammers)
Yeah, hard to say what they do. If they keep the GTA 5 insanity level then its hardly a parody of real life since thats where real life is at.
I find it a little upsetting that 5's parody has become only a slight exaggeration of reality
I just replayed it on PS5 for the first time since I beat it on PS3 and I was thinking the same thing.
The retards in the comments are giving me cancer.
Did we watch the same trailer? This looks fucking amazing. None of this is actual gameplay footage, and about two scenes actually look like cutscenes. but it’s all been rendered IN ENGINE. Just like every other fucking Rockstar trailer to ever exist. This looks freaking insane.
People are shitting on the 2025 release date like…..bruh. RDR2 took 8 years to develop. Rumors say this has been in development since 2019 or so, right after the release of RDR2. So 6-7 years which makes perfect sense. I’m not happy about the nearly two year wait but it fits with the development timeline.
Jesus christ I hope Rockstar parodies all of your asses to show how fucking negative the internet has become.
It's going to be the most politically satirical GTA yet and the chuds will think that it's actually dunking on libruls.
I'm with you. The trailer looks incredible and I am very eagerly anticipating the game.
The trailer showed a lot of things that would likely be a part of the GTA6 story, and for that it looks like the game is geared up to be something incredibly entertaining and FUN!
My only gripe is the PC version is likely to release after consoles :(
This is definitely at least in-engine, likely actually in-game footage:
characters swimming in the water during both of the beach shots have no animations whatsoever, they just stand on the water like they're jesus christ.
one of the container ships in the later overhead shot showing the derelict bridge is entirely untextured and extremely low res, while the rest of the environment is highly detailed
in the opening shot, parts of the city are billboarded or simple blocks to provide a basic skyline shape, while the areas around the prison are extremely detailed
The NPCs standing on the water also suggests NPCs are driven by the final actor and animation systems, but the animations for swimming or walking through water are just not done yet.
We also see a significant difference between the recreations of florida man memes, where every motion is keyframed to match the original videos, and the parts of the trailer where we see NPCs actually running their regular animation loops, as in the beach, club or road scenes.
Now, will we see this level of quality in game? Yes and no. Usually, a small elite team builds a vertical slice, a single mission in which every little mechanic already works, followed by many larger teams then building the rest of the game, trying to match the quality of the original template.
A good example of this is the original 40min E3 demo of cyberpunk 2077, which exists in the game 1:1 today. This vertical slice was awesome, but later missions usually had fewer alternative solutions, less polished environments and an overall lower interactivity.
So while I'm sure the robbery / prison / parole hearing part is fully fleshed out and will likely be included in the final game as-is, other parts of the game might not reach the same level of realism. Even if you ran the game on the same high-end workstations the developers are using.
Rockstar has a pretty good track record on their trailers being very close to what the actual game is.
You can generate anything in-engine, it's not representative of gameplay. Everyone does it and it's equally shitty. It looks like a minute and a half of cutscenes and, other than character reveals it looks like a normal release. It just looks like smoothed out gta5, so like....gta5 on pc. The achievement wouldn't be the graphics, it would be "can it maintain the graphics steadily and not drop frames"
Timeline is irrelevant, agreed. it will come out when it comes out.
That one scene where the guy was getting out of the car kinda looked like gta5 but the rest looked great..
It all looks great. That's kinda the expectation tbh. It does look good, but all games "look good" at this stage. This gives rise to the other question about can it look good and be stable, even on lower end hardware (ps4/x1 and mid/low pcs) for release.
But a video is a video. I realize it's so early and am not knocking it for lacking gameplay footage, just that generating a video in-engine is not representative of gameplay, or gameplay elements.
The game is announced for PS5 and Xbox Series exclusively.
It's out of the question that it will be released on PS4/XBone, GTA VI will be a proper next gen (or current gen) game. And RStar would be making a fool out of themselves releasing a last gen game in 2025.
I'm guessing it won't be released on PC for another year after the console release, but their GTA V PC Port has been optimized pretty well imho (even though they've pretty much abandoned it at this stage).
Rockstar has a great track record of their trailers being very close to the final game. Just look at any of their trailers and the final game. There's not really any reason to believe it will be different this time.
None of this is actual gameplay footage,
So there's nothing to care about in the trailer.
You are part of the group that I hope they parody.
Don't get your hopes up, kid. This is GTA, not south park.
Uh huh. Yeah they’ve never made fun of anyone at all. Never had any stereotypical controversies.
Fuck off man. They’re not as ridiculous as South Park but they certainly know when to critique.
Lmao what a salty fanboy. Learn what the words you use mean.
Hahaha 2025, I knew it. people are gonna be pissed 🤣
Two delays and three price changes later, this game will be fantastic when it comes out in 2027
See ya in 2030 when online is ready
I'll have to wait until the PC version comes out in 2033, but see ya then!
Was about to say the original release of GTA V wasn't an actually release since it didn't come to PC for a couple of years
Oh, you're not gonna wait for Online that long. It's gonna be their main focus for sure.
100% it's their money maker. I'd be less surprised if they delayed the campaign to get the online out.
Good that means no micro transactions
Not surprised, GTA 5 was announce 2011 and release 2013.
I have a strange feeling about the story for this game. Here's my prediction:
Lucia breaks out of prison with the help of Jason and an outside character. Lucia and Jason then go on the run turning into a Bonny and Clyde story. Doing heists and robbing people to make some cash to get away from the cops. But then, they rob the wrong person or they were forced to rob the person by the other character and are forced into the drug trade. Maybe the other character was a narco that either Lucia or Jason knew. The FIB or DEA catch wind of this and since Lucia and Jason prove to be very good criminals, they then rope them into taking down the drug trade by robbing and pulling heists.
This goes on until they both eventually find a way out or plan to pull "one last heist" that'll free them from both the narcos and the FIB or DEA. But then, whoopsie, turns out either Lucia or Jason had some ulterior motive for tagging along with one another. While Lucia or Jason was in prison, they struck a deal with either the narcos or FIB to either escape the country or wipe their record. The catch? They had to bring the other person in, kill them, or just generally betray them.
Then the final act would be one of three options. Lucia kills Jason, Jason kills Lucia, or they both fight the narcos and FIB together Bonnie and Clyde style. Either way, bullets are gonna be flying.
The end game would be only Lucia or Jason are left alive and free of both the narcos and FIB. But, Maybe they became a crime Lord in the drug trade thanks to the other person dying or the FIB unknowingly.
Based on how Rockstar makes their stories, I predict one of the two is gonna bite the bullet by the end.
Sounds exactly like something Rockstar would write. Kinda predictable, kinda "been there, done that".
Best part of GTA V for me was the social satire and Trevor being a total sociopath. The story isn't anything special, the final mission hits the wrong story beats (it should have ended with the big shootout of government bureaucracy pileup), and the gameplay has some design mistakes (like business income being completely useless, and money in general being a non-issue after the first big heist). It had bugs that prevented story progress without workarounds that were never fixed. It got a lot of praise at the time for having crazy draw distances in an open world game while working on an XBox 360. That's no longer a big deal.
I don't think it deserved all the five-star reviews it got back then.
Conversely, if the social satire is on point and the character building is solid, then I'll be happy.
Thanks, you've saved me $80.
Based on how Rockstar makes their stories, I predict one of the two is gonna bite the bullet by the end.
By either
A) sacrificing themselves for the other or
B) being in a shootout with help arriving too late.
I think the "escape from prison" part won't happen, because we see Lucia with an ankle monitor in the promo pic. Implying she's on parole or something. The rest sounds plausible though.
Not disappointed in the trailer or the game or anything, but I would've loved to see a GTA set in a city outside the US. For example in a London-like city or Tokyo or Rome or Paris.
But yeah this new GTA looks sick. They did a great job in capturing the new fucked up Florida vibe.
GTA: GTA (Greater Toronto Area)
Five stars is just the RCMP apologizing to you.
Unless you're a native character...
Hahahahaha
If Rockstar wanted to bring back London '69 (maybe '89 now?) I wouldn't be mad at all.
I've always dreamed about this one, London 69 updated in their recent style. I think they talked about this before and the problem is the cops in London didn't carry guns then so it made it difficult to be a GTA game in the typical sense.
Sleeping Dogs is probably as close as you'll get. That's a great game btw.
Thanks for the reference! I'll check that out!
Solid game, I believe it began as a sequel to True crime streets of LA. It felt like I was playing an infernal affairs video game
They have police in those city.
All 2022 Rome had only 16 homicides... And street are too small and traffic is too bad for a grand theft auto... Rome is good for spy stories, thriller or stealth games. GTA wouldn't really work
In London not even police has guns... Having someone hanging around with a gun is too unrealistic, more than Harry potter
For Rome, grand theft auto in the 70s is absolutely doable. Full of gangs, terrorists, molotovs.
Grand theft auto Rome 2023 would be about some fat guy bribing politicians to get the work for his company of collect garbage and never do it. The lucrative non-fancy side of crime
Ah.. you make a very good point.
USA as a very car centric country is definitely best suited for a car centric game like Grand Theft Auto.
That's true lol. It's not called grand theft métro de Paris.
grand theft bicycle with a canal boat chase set anywhere in the Netherlands
The Getaway had plenty of car action, it was pretty neat blasting through the tight roads and navigating traffic.
I always assumed GTA to be a broad parody on modern America. From the beginning it was a new York esque mob-gang warfare, and then moved out to add in more usa adjacent scenery. It's more about keeping with the theme, let IPs like watchdogs take the initial risks.
Good point. And Florida has become crazy enough that a GTA game set there is almost realistic.
I'd like it just set in any new city outside of these 3. It's always been a rotation of Liberty, Vice and San Andreas, even back to GTA 1 (which was the 3 cities in one)
True. Chicago would've been nice. Or Atlanta.
The Florida vibe is definitely oozing from this trailer. I can almost smell it, and quite frankly I'm disgusted. Bravo. I would've preferred the next GTA being somewhere else, but maybe this it exactly where it belongs.
Agree. Florida culture has become very conductive for this kind of game.
i dunno if they find enough whacky criminal characters. Seems to be the other countries are still too normal or things are too fucked up for the series to work there.
Wiarton Ontario
I want them to spin off another top down style gta game, I love the 3d but it would be cool to see them iterate on the OG style.
GTA 2 was my favorite
GTA Chinatown Wars was great when it released for Nintendo DS and the PSP. It was actually a really well done update to the GTA 2 style of gameplay that a lot of people missed because it was a portable game. It was available on iOS and Android, too, but not sure if it's still there.
Aaand remember: Respect is everything!
That just might be a good indy game project actually....
Idk... If it hasn't happened with the Switch... Like they did with PSP and DS with GTA china town ...
CDMX
Knowing Rockstar put off development of this game for as long as they did just so they could milk GTAO for every last penny makes me hesitant at best.
I have never been let down by a GTA campaign, but they know where the money is, I'm hesitant to believe they will give this one the attention it deserves after seeing the profits from GTAO. Or maybe I'm just pessimistic
GTA5's campaign was fairly good, but it sucks they abandoned the planned additions and shoved the assets into GTAO only. I do not care to play GTAO, but I would have liked more things to do in single player. Knowing that this is likely going to have single player solely as a pipeline into GTAO though, yeah I'm sceptical too.
I think GTAO (and RDR2-O) is pretty much unplayable with all the obvious cheaters in each session. Rockstar doesnt even care if someone runs around with a K:D of > 1000:1, ruining the game for everyone else ...
Yep. I hate to say this, but they should maybe but MTX into the singleplayer game. I really don't like the idea of it, but if it's between that and nothing, I guess it's better than nothing. One time purchase DLC is clearly not appealing enough to them. That said, I could totally see it ruining singleplayer so maybe that's not the best idea...
I just wonder if they can actually figure out a way to make GTA online actually fun. Because It really isn't a good game mode.
All of the online modes that are actually fun are all modded servers. The mental servers are awful you spawn in and get blown up instantly, how's that fun?
GTAOnline has suffered from feature pile-on. I think there's an official software development term for it, but I can't remember it. It's fun, aside from the astronomical grind and push for shark cards (but there are ways around that wink wink) Even considering that, getting into it as a new player is wild.
there’s an official software development term for it
Scope creep I think.
That's probably the wrong term. Scope creep is when you're working on a project and you keep adding new requirements to the design before you finish the existing ones. Your scope creeps further and further into the future. GTAO is a project that is available, and increasing scope hasn't seemed to delay new content.
That said, I don't know what the "correct" term would be either.
I usually think of scope creep as adding more and more work items, like this: you're building a bridge between two buildings. During design, you find out one of the buildings has terrible foundations that should really just be replaced. Scope creep would be deciding to replace the building foundations as part of the bridge project.
It's possible I'm not using the term correctly either though. Maybe what I've described instead is design creep, or something.
They finished GTA V release in 2015, released Red Dead Redemption II in 2018, and this will be 2025
Sounds like continuous development to me?
It’s 10 fucking years. GTA 3, Vice City, and San Andreas were all less than a couple years apart. They need to reuse that strategy of working in parallel and reusing the game engine for a few sequels before moving to the next generation.
I’m confident they would’ve released more games if GTA Online wasn’t such a money printer for them. For those of us that liked the single player though and didn’t touch online, it’s been a while!
Games were way lower fidelity and quicker to make back then, bro. It's nowhere near the same thing.
It took billions of years to make pacman and 14 years to make pacman 2. They should be able able to make GTA 6 in a week. GTA 7 should come out before Christmas.
The earlier GTA games where quicker to develop because the computers did not have the CPU power or RAM to support large cities, many different NPC models, detailed cars, objects or enviroments. This means levels, assests and the engines where much quicker to develop.
if you double width+height of your map, you have to fill 4x the area with meaningfull content, belivable cities, scripted events, nature, streets, shops, maybe NPS who have a daily routine to walk from one place to another.
Plus, you have to create a large amount of different(!) buildings to place around your map, because you dont want to recognize the same house, shop, park or Parking lot multiple times in the same street. On top of that is car physics, traffic simulation, cop chase behavior and now apparently NPCs interact with each other.
None of this has been done before, and getting this right and bugfree is not trivial - see cyberpunk.
It's 10 years since last GTA. In the middle there is a little game known as Red Dead Redemption 2, which is massive and took the whole studio to make.
Yeah I played that one. Also pretty great. Hope they build another one soon. It’s already been 5 years.
RDR2 was still phenomenal after getting the GTAO money. Rockstar can still make great single-player content when they want to.
I agree. It's just that this is the same series.. Idk maybe it will kick ass, I'm just overly cynical I guess lol
My expectation is that it will be very good, but will have no single player DLC whatsoever in lieu of GTAO2 or whatever they call it. And no, I've never forgiven them for doing that with V. At least this time I won't be expecting it.
What if it doesn't need DLC? When the concept of DLC first came out, everyone complained that devs were just releasing unfinished games and that you were obligated to buy DLC to enjoy a full experience. Now people only buy games because they're expecting DLC?
Because Rockstar did some good DLC for GTA IV and Red Dead Redemption. I agree that DLC isn't a good thing if it's carved out of the base game, but Rockstar had a good track record of making good DLC for already feature-complete games.
Unnecessarily cynical. The same series? Are Vice City, SA, and 4 considered bad games?
Did you even read my initial comment?
I explicitly said that I have never been let down by a GTA campaign. What I was saying was that RDR2 is a different series that plays by different rules. For that reason I don't feel like it's necessarily fair to use RDR2 as an example of how they will treat GTA with the respect the series deserves.
They're not going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars developing a new game only to focus on GTAV online.
Counterpoint: Warzone.
Why does it make you hesitant? GTAV isn't GTA6.
Am I the only one who no longer cares for GTA series after the Shark Code shitshow series has become ans the dropped promise of single player mods and DLC?
I’m only interested in GTA 6 for the single player game. Never played GTA 5 online for more than 30 minutes. I wish they had given us some single player DLC, but I guess Rockstar decided they could make the more money selling a handful of kids fake in game currency so why bother. It sucks for those of us that like the single player because it means we get a new game once a decade now. Used to be that Rockstar released a new GTA every couple years.
I'm still malding at how they canceled the singleplayer dlc so they could reskin and release the same content over and over on multiplayer (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
Gta online was fun at first, when it was all about fooling around in the awesome big map with friends, but after that got old, there's nothing else to do but grind boring missions that all feel the same.
I feel like a nutjob in that I just...don't really care about GTA VI. The graphics look great, I'm sure the world will be awesome, but...after what Rockstar did to GTA V's singleplayer and RDR2 as a whole (abandoning both in favor of printing money through Shark Cards), plus the whole "Rockstar Magic" working conditions thing from awhile ago (and I even forgot about the whole GTA V PC issue), I'm just not really excited for this.
Maybe I'm just disillusioned, but I was much more excited when the Armored Core 6 teaser dropped - a series I had never even played before.
The way I see it they make an amazing single player game and then use the multiplayer to fund the next one.
I never finished the last GTA but RDR2 was absolutely amazing and didn't need any dlc or expansions imo.
Yeah not sure why people want the single player to last forever lol. To me it makes sense for them to focus on the Online afterwards since that's what will stay alive after people finish the single player.
I don't see an open world game lasting as long as a sandbox game without a ton of bloat.. kinda like those super long and repetitive Ubisoft campaigns people always complain about...
I haven't played online since like 2015, but I personally liked playing through the missions with my friends
For me it's not about the singleplayer lasting forever, it's about it being completely abandoned. I agree with the idea of them making a great singleplayer story and using the online to fund their next game, but it used to be that you would see other stories told in those worlds with dlc like the Ballad of Gay Tony or even the wacky fun of RDR's Undead Nightmare. Today, that kind of stuff is relegated to online mission packs and seasonal events. They didn't even bother to do simple stuff like put new guns introduced in the multiplayer of GTA V and RDR2 into the singleplayer. If you have no interest in the online component, you have nothing more to do with the game until they release the next one in another decade.
And this isn't to say that I'm over here being angry about GTA Online. I have my issues with Shark Cards and I had my complaints over how RDR2 Online was handled, but it's been many years since I cared about that and my Shark Card gripes are about the predatory nature of how mtx are used by the industry at large, not with Rockstar in particular.
I'm mostly just feeling like I missed something. I think it looks like it's making a big step forward for graphics in games (hair physics has always been incredibly difficult to get right, for example, and the hair in this trailer looks really good) and nails a perfect vibe for a Miami based city, and I'm sure the story will be fantastic. I never finished GTA V's story, but RDR 1 and 2 are some of my favorite game stories of all time. But I saw the trailer and went "This looks like another Rockstar game, neat" while the trailer was getting 7 million views an hour for at least the first 5 hours after its release. I just don't understand why this has record-breaking hype surrounding it. Maybe it's because I didn't get pulled into GTA V's story and got turned off of GTA Online almost immediately, but this is falling squarely into "I'll pick it up eventually I imagine" territory, not day 1 purchase hype.
Maybe you're not as excited because you're not the target audience anymore.
Think of the biggest games of the last 10 years, they've all been community centered games. Among Us, Minecraft, Call of Duty, Fortnite, GTA Online, Fall Guys, etc.
I think we just grew up in a different era. I grew up playing on the PSX but my younger brother grew up on the PS4. I'm still playing the Tony Hawk remaster by myself and my younger brother is playing online games with like 6 people in the call.
I look forward to the story, but my younger brother looks forward to the online where he can have his own character and create his own story with his friends.
Gaming in general is moving in a community direction and I don't blame Rockstar for moving in that direction as well.
I'm really excited for the single player. I have absolutely zero optimism for online though.
Yep
Dude that's why I stopped playing GTA V, I finished the offline story mode and there was nothing else to do for offline.
I mean isn't that the case with most single player story games? You can still do side missions and other activities
Yea but they could've added more main story DLC.
I'm not even bothering to watch the trailer because I already had decided to never buy anything from Rockstar again prior to this announcement.
The GTAOnline situation is super wack, but R* hasn't stopped delivering great single player campaigns, well technically only one - RDR2 - since introducing shark cards, and it is still completely separate from RDROnline and the paid currency. I won't pre-order GTAVI still, even once it comes to PC, but I'm going to pick it up if the reviews are halfway decent.
I guess so. I have no idea what you're talking about. GTA V was awesome.
You're mad that the online component of GTAV had premium currency microtransactions? Just don't buy them. Also, there are loads of single player mods for V, don't know what you mean.
No, they're mad that any singleplayer content planned for GTA 5 (and RDR2) in the past decade was abandoned for the money printing machine that is GTA Online. There's issues to be had with premium currencies (more specifically the stuff that usually goes along with them like lootboxes), but that's not just a GTA thing.
Also, just because other people created content for a game through mods doesn't mean we should give the company that made the game credit. That's like praising a Bethesda game based on a total overhaul mod somebody made.
This is a weird fucking place, bro.
Like, I thought reddit was full of bitter cynics, but only on Lemmy could I find an entire GAMING community that is angry at the next GTA game.
This place must be full of 55+ year olds or something.
You can't join into multiplayer/gta online unless you disable all mods. For a live service that needs loading Individually it still doesn't operate as good as it should especially when they have the funds for it. They dont care for the player experience. After 4 times having to enable, test and disable mods just to play online with friends, I dropped gta V all together. Wasn't worth co figuring 150+ mods just to have them all break when you have to disable them.
That's to be expected. But if you only play games because mods exist, do you even like the games you play?
if you're that dedicated to mods and online multi, you should probably have two systems. Of course mods aren't gonna play nice with an online mutli.
Looks great. I knew after the RDR2 crocs we were going to be getting much better wildlife, which is very exciting.
Graphics look awesome, promising Bonnie and Clyde story.
Seem to have expanded out their in game social media and Internet designs.
Figured it would be 2025 as historically the first trailer always comes out around a year and a half before the game is slated to.
GTA is out of touch with the times. These days it's all grand theft catalytic converter and leave your car in a shit state where you don't know what's even wrong with it if you aren't a mechanic.
I'm cautiously optimistic. I really hope this isn't the first GTA game they ruin. I hate that they discarded the additions to GTA V's single-player in exchange for GTA Online updates, I hope they won't do that here, even though I did actually enjoy GTA Online too.
All GTA onlines have the been the biggest pieces of shit in my opinion.
Never spent a cent and never will.
It was real dirty of Rockstar doing that.
Overreaction much? GTA4 online granted didn't even work, but V online is exactly how you want GTA online to behave, minus the load times. No one is forcing you to play online. You'll easily get 100 hours just fucking around in single player.
I honestly well and truly loved gta Iv's online. Keep it simple I say
I always thought I wanted GTA Online during the GTA3 era. Then when it became a reality, I realized I really didn’t want it and preferred the single player. The moment the story ends though, I have zero interest. Same with RDR2. Don’t care much to run around an empty world trying to collect 100% completion. Online is toxic and boring. Anything with an in game currency that you can buy with real money is a no from me. I guess I grew up in a different era when games were games and not gambling scams.
Well I guess this is where different Motivations for gaming come into play.
I spent 800+ hours in GTA Online and most of that time was just spending time with my friends. Never spent a single Euro for Shark Cards.
It really isn't. The idea started great, but they focused way too much on lobby play instead of missions. And lobbies were just not good, because of tech problems and because they just gave out overpowered stuff there you can't counter.
It all just felt too much, instead of your character just being a trailer gangster. And it's very obvious that everything is focused on you having to buy shark cards.
I enjoyed 3rd party clients way more.
I won't be pre-ordering (because they likely won't be releasing on PC at launch, ugh), but I have high hopes. There hasn't been a R* game without a killer story. I kinda expected RDR2's story to be an afterthought to the online, as that was their first game since GTAOnline, however it was still an awesome single player campaign.
We don't preorder games here. It will be the best selling game of 2025. You'll get a copy.
Sorry, I wouldn't pre-order even if it was released on PC at launch, I didn't make that clear.
Also, as if anyone should be worried about getting a copy when digital distrubition exists.
At what point in history did Rockstar release a sub-par game?
They didn't yet, but they could at any time. Enshitification is a real thing and it's starting to become more widespread. I just have to hope that GTA 6 will be good. I think it probably will be.
I was disappointed by GTAV - yeah graphics were great, huge world and all, but they skimped on the writing.
IMO almost every GTA has had derivative writing and set ups, but it's okay because of everything else taking the spotlight. 3 was just Claude doing random missions until one mission lets you get revenge on Catalina and then the game just ends. Vice City is a revenge plot sort of but it's just Tommy doing random jobs until Sonny's like "oh you fancy huh?". SA's story was just batshit crazy all over the place. 4 IMO had the actual good story and didn't seem derivative. Niko was a genuinely interesting character. V's story was just straight forward "criminals finding out who snitched", satisfying, but a bit scant. I just ask for a serviceable crime plot set in a vibrant and lived in world.
IV was the one I spent the most time on, so that makes sense. But with V it's not a lack of depth, more a lack of continuity. Of course it's been so long since I played it I can't remember any specific examples, I just remember being disappointed, and thinking they spent so much time/money on the physics, they had nothing left for the story ..
I dont remember the gta v launch, but i definatly remember the cyberpunk hype and launch
You don't remember V's launch? It was a massive success.
I wasnt on the internet back then. Got open access to the internet around 2015.
Dude, people took off work for that launch.
And that's why this is a console only release for now.
That's what doomed cyberpunk. I got my Series X halfway through the campaign, and it was a different game on the X vs the One. I wish they had scrapped current gen plans for that game and went next gen only. It would have been a more successful launch.
Get hyped for GTA: Florida Man!
Seriously, I'm in NW FL, nowhere near real cities, but this seems spot on.
Florida simulator.
I hope this is going to be good. But I'm not going to hold my breath. Because we are talking about Take-Two and Rockstar here.
Help a woman who needs an abortion
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Tell kids about gay people
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Eh, since that law applies to classroom instruction, they'd have to save that one for a Bully sequel.
When has Rockstar themselves put out a bad game?
Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition was bad.
EDIT Manhunt 2 was bad. When comparing it to the first game.
i don’t really count remasters that were outsourced, that is 2k and grove street games’ sin
Rockstar did okay it.
Take-Two are be pretty scummy (especially the sports game division), but Rockstar don't miss.
Expect evolution not revolution, but we're going back to Vice City, so count me in.
I'm just concerned that they're going to go all in on GTA online 2.
They either need to make sure they put a huge amount of effort into the single player or they need to completely rework online play.
They didn't for Red Dead 2. I don't see why they would for this.
I've haven't touched the multiplayer player content in any of their games, and never felt short changed by what I got.
I was thinking the same, but then again taking a long time to put games out isn't the same as putting out broken games. I mean rdr, rdr2, and gtav are stellar games that launched without any glaring faults iirc. Taking time is fine as long as we get a complete product.
Ahh yes the "cautious gamer that doesn't think GTA is going to be good" archetype.
Stoked for Vice City and the graphics look pretty good!
Won't hold my breath for PC release in 2025 but one can dream.
I am guessing they’ll wait until after new consoles are released. Let people buy ps5/xXxboxXxSeriesNexXxt remastered. Then let people buy the pc version. Get 3 copies sold to each of most hardcore gamers.
Wonder how much effort they will put into preventing mods this time. I know they bought 5M so it seem they will want to shut all the unauthorized mod communities down.
Nah, that's too far. You're talking like 2028 there for the next gen consoles. PC probably gonna come 6-12 months later, like almost always.
I wonder how much that will be true this time around. This is the first console Gen where I have no plans to get a console, so they can't even entice me to double dip due to lack of a console. And if I haven't got a console by 2024 I won't be getting one just for one game. Exclusives don't have the same draw anymore, since they've started getting ported.
Only console I've held onto was the Wii. Unless a Wii release is coming, I'm doomed to wait for a PC release.
One silver lining I see in delayed release is that I have less of an incentive to upgrade my GPU until then, and new GPU might be out that should hopefully handle it maxed out when I do get into it.
Next gen consoles are years out. You're looking at 2029 at the earliest for the next generation of consoles.
This is a very accurate representation of the USA tbh (source: am american)
I said this for a few years now, but the modern USA has reached the insanity level of the GTA Universe
Hence America is a free-for-all wasteland. Unsafe for LGBT people, investment and migration, if ever GOP wins presidency and the Congress.
Game set in Florida>
Alligator enters store>
Best GTA game.
"Florida Man: The Game"
Pizza Gator better be in there too! My man Gumbo deserves his 15 minutes.
Rockstar's gonna have to turn the satire up to 12 to beat the reality of Florida in 2025.
The fact that they got the twerk animation to be so realistic gives me confidence that they're raising the bar and putting in the work on this game. Also every rule 34 modder is gonna take full advantage of this
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If 2025 deadline is met then will probably be 2026-2027 for PC release.
Of all the trailers, this certainly is one.
Certainly a trailer for one the games of 2025 at that!
If this isn't coming out until 2025, I worry about how dated the graphics already look. It's like they took the same old models/rigs and just brought them into higher definition? Idk, but something looks off about them to me. It definitely doesn't help the $70-80 price tags that companies are trying to justify when graphics look mostly the same as they ever have.
I think we might have hit peak realism with graphics and need to lean harder into art direction.
I believe those are in game graphics!
Rockstar has done nothing but actual in-game footage for trailers since like GTA3. So, yeah, that shit is fucking insane. Doesn't even look like a PS5 could run it.
As comments on GAF have been pointing out, 2025 will be after the PS5 Pro.
What I can't figure is how this will run on the Series S.
They must have magicians working for them or something. I guess that's the advantage of using a completely tailor made engine created with unlimited funding, rather than using Unreal or something.
They certainly have some tricks and talent. GTA 5 ran on the launch 360 which had 512mb of RAM shared between CPU and GPU.
Well Microsoft has already shown they will cave to have a game, so probably just won’t be on it so it can still be on an Xbox in some form.
Nah, the press release says it's releasing on the S
So did BG3 at the start and we all know how that went. Microsoft had to reneg on multiple policies just so they could have the game on their consoles.
I believe only the local Co-op was removed though? And the optimizations made for XSS were beneficial to all other platforms as well as they stated, and the game runs now much better on PC and PS5
The optimizations would have been done eventually anyways and Xbox had policies that they had to bend just to have the game on their systems.
People can say the game is coming, but that doesn’t mean it’s happening, it’s already been an issue and will be a continuing issue going forward. The console just isn’t that powerful.
If the game does release, it won’t be the same game as the X, not a chance.
I doubt they would do the optimizations at the same degree, because they wouldn't need to. It was working fine on the PS5 already, it was already a success on PC. Why bother much?
They have done plenty of other optimizations already. So why would you think that? Of your logic was remotely true not any optimizations would have been done since it’s a waste.
Clearly they aren’t that type of company (every company does continuing optimizations FFS LMFAO), so don’t make shit up to try and make a point.
It looked great other than NPCs, they were a bit off, stilted and blocky
Lol fucking internet. "Blocky"
Great input, fucking internet.
What kind of games are you playing where the graphics in that trailer were subpar? Everything looked great
I literally used the word great in my comment, just a couple of the NPCs looked odd to me. The first girl in the bikini is walking odd or something.
I mean, they look nothing like RL people, but still there is some progress.
Man the graphics looks great. The lighting especially. Looking forward to seeing actual gameplay next trailer.
Maybe I'm just getting old but the gameplay loop of Rockstar games has gotten tired. RDR2 was gorgeous but the mission formula was just so boring.
Really? I thought the lighting and environments looked good, but the models definitely need some work. They look like clay mannequins in an HD world to me, and I feel like that's only gonna get more exacerbated since this doesn't come out for another 2 years.
Meh. I'm going to disagree. I feel the graphics were underwhelming given the time they took. The scenery was beautiful but the characters and NPCs need some major work.
Elden Ring was better. Cyberpunk is better. Fortnite is better.
They are making us wait 2 more years and I don't even care because it's been that long and they have fallen behind.
Fortnite is better? Are we looking at the same video?
Have you played the season that just dropped? It is better than most games. And I'm not some casual. I have a very respectable PC and gaming laptop under Linux and Windows. I know graphics quality.
Well, it's hard to get me hyped but here I am like Cartman asking Butters to freeze him until Nintendo wii comes out..
On the side note, it seems like the story of the game is going to go around treachery again.
It's Bonnie and Clyde. Bonnie and Clyde were crappy criminals but they were quite famous for their media presence. I think this one will have the protagonists be social media star criminals, and it will come back and bite them. Also, one dies, iirc.
I like the Bonnie and Clyde angle, but after that, you lost me.
"Rockstar’s next game, Grand Theft Auto VI, will include a playable female protagonist,” Bloomberg adds, citing sources familiar with the game.
“The woman, who is Latina, will be one of a pair of leading characters in a story influenced by the bank robbers Bonnie and Clyde, the people said.
Bonnie Elizabeth Parker (October 1, 1910 – May 23, 1934) and Clyde Chestnut (Champion) Barrow (March 24, 1909 – May 23, 1934) were American criminals who traveled the Central United States with their gang during the Great Depression. The couple was known for their bank robberies, although they preferred to rob small stores or rural funeral homes. Their exploits captured the attention of the American press and its readership during what is occasionally referred to as the "public enemy era" between 1931 and 1934. They were ambushed by police and shot to death in Bienville Parish, Louisiana. They are believed to have murdered at least nine police officers and four civilians.
A Bonnie and Clyde social media fueled rolling catastrophy in a place that is very much also a rolling catastrophy (FL), seems pretty on par for GTA. They often mimic classics, GTAV had some underpinnings in the Three Musketeers (think: all for one, one for all ending).
The consequences of media buzz IS the story of Bonnie and Clyde. It's unlikely they would have been chased by police like they were without the newspapers. They were petty criminals.
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I agree the foreshadowing means one will die or betray the other somehow. Will bet 100 shark bucks or whatever on it.
Trevor would love it there.
This looks amazing. Ig I have no reason to think so but I really hope it releases on PC at the same time as consoles
I'd wish so too but as usual >= +1 year
Bad news everyone! It most definitely will NOT release on PC until at least 2026, maybe later! Wheeee
Vice City is back baby
POC HAIRSTYLES COMING CORRECT, LETS FUCKING GO!!! they even got Wicks right?!? oh my fucking god!?
I might go feral if they don't release on PC at launch. This looks INCREDIBLE, they've knocked it out of the park.
Rockstar historically always have delayed pc port, and issues on launch for their pc release. Maybe 2026 is more on reality (gta 4 pc port is released in less than a year, and it was the worst performing gta on pc iirc).
Historically consoles have been much more specialized. The last GTA came out in the PS3 era. The PS3 used the cell microprocessor which was famously hard to develop for.
The latest consoles run AMD Zen CPUs, very similar to those found in most gaming PCs.
Yeah, unfortunately im prepared for that being the reality :(
IIRC GTA V had basically no issues at launch. RDR2 had some crashing issues, but otherwise it's like one of the best optimized and most scalable PC ports I've ever seen.
As someone who back in 2010s up to 2016 regularly visits gtaforums to discuss modding and waiting for gta v pc release, I can say no. People back in 2015 launch had issues ranging from simply unable to launch, infinite loading screen, close to the desktop, to missing graphical effects (even after driver update).
In term of recent gta release, gta v definitely is more optimized in a sense but if your information based on something like Digital Foundry retrospective videos... Well idk, since they tested it with "optimized" setting and not in launch version.
Just my 2cent from my past experience.
Fair enough. I did play PC at launch but that was like almost 9 years ago so I don't really remember much
When was the last major Rockstar release that came out simultaneously on consoles and PC? Max Payne 3 maybe? I assume it will be console exclusive and then PC a year later.
Already confirmed in press release that it's only releasing for PS5 and Xbox. No PC launch on 2025.
I should play GTA5. Still havent touched it. I think I have it on PS3 somewhere...
Alligator! Alligator!
Looks fine?
It looks like a modded GTAV.
Granted, its still well over a year out.
But Meh.
Especially since Rockstar will probably hyper focus on online multi and milking the whales, and give a shitty single player experience again.
Gta5 had a shitty single player experience? Did we play the same game? Wtf?or rdr2, another Rockstar game?
Shit on Rockstar all you want, but their game have entertaining stories...
They did leave a lot of stuff for online only, never even updating things in singleplayer.
I'd argue I got my 60usd worth of content out of the single player. I can understand they focused on MP for further content.
Would've made sense if they had it for sale as SP DLC
Considering the going rate for games anymore seems to be 10 hours of game play for 60 dollars, I can believe you on that comment at least.
You finished the gta 5 campaign in 10h? You just speedran it once?
If not, nice hyperbole...
(rdr2 campaign was also more than 10h, to name a recentish Rockstar game) . Many other big AAA titles aside from cod also have campaigns that last longer than 10h.
"Sequel to game looks like improved version of game".
Not sure what point you're trying to make here?
I think the point is - it's disappointing to see GTA 5 2.0. I expected something more, something different, less generic, not just another coastal city or a GTA 5 clone. It seems like they just merged the engine update with GTA 5. Watching the trailer bored me, like being forced to watch a mediocre action comedy movie. I don't know how the majority of the game will feel, but this trailer is just so generic. If this were a movie, no one would care. Maybe that's the point, but still, my hype is somewhat gone. I at least expected a different scenario than this GTA 5 DLC story or at least set it somewhere other than a coastal city.
Waiting for GTA Wyoming with trailer park beef and fentanyl processing
I think they are totally planning on adding the new map to GTA Online. Just like in Vice City you visited the original GTA 3 map.
there are gta v mods that add rtgi and hair simulation?
Looks like GTA V with mods.
I don't get everyone being so excited about the graphics.
Maybe this are console players who haven't seen GTA V on PC but graphics wise it doesn't seem like a huge upgrade.
Sure I'm excited for the story and new possibilities like being able to enter more buildings and maybe more activities like in rdr2 but graphics wise it kinda looks "normal".
I genuinely think that's pretty naive. The graphics themselves do look better than V but the lighting, the water and the business is a real upgrade.
You have no clue what you're talking about.
The animation system is on a whole other level, the hair simulation is leaps and bounds above anything you can mod into V, it's obviously using a modern PBR rendered and a ton of other things that makes both just night and day.
Go watch V's trailer (which for the time was incredible for an open world game) side by side with this and open your eyes.
Their testicles are affected by the ambient temperature.
there are gta v mods that add rtgi and hair simulation?
Bruh, I play V constantly. VI is looking a lot better. Most people didn't play V on PS5 and Xbox Series, they played it on PS4 and Xbone.
I played it on a god damn 360
How to say PC Master Race without saying PC Master Race.
I got tired a long time ago of games unnecessarily forcing phones and social media into them. They're never done well, and real life social media sucks enough, we don't need more of it in games.
GTA has always had them as a parody though.
Going back to beepers even...
Looks like an absolute celebration of all the worst things America is known for. Pass, thanks.
Yeah because the other 5 main series crime simulator games really spoke to the soul of the country
Goddamn, that was funny
It's more of a satire of them but sure.
do we tell him
You should check out this happening hip website called Reddit, my man. There will be lots of folks there that will agree with you.
You mean that website where a large majority of fediverse users came from?
Yeah, wouldn’t be surprised if there was some communal overlap…
Lmao do you know what platform you're on right now? I'm actually surprised OP is getting downvoted because this type of comment is the epitome of Lemmy. Missing satire/missing the point, anti-American, pointlessly bringing in politics/culture in a negative way. This has been my experience 80% of the time here.
Missing satire/missing the point, anti-American, pointlessly bringing in politics/culture in a negative way.
Ahh, just like Reddit
Reddit is hardly anti-American in the aggregate. And not nearly the same percentage of posts get political for no reason. Definitely agree on missing satire, though. Lemmy is just hyper-distilled reddit.
It's a Scottish made satire of the absolute worst things America is known for...so...yeah...
With the plethora of great games getting released every month on PC, it's very hard to feel any excitment for a game that will probably release in 2027 on PC. It doesn't help that GTA Online left a sour taste, and even the single player story was only great for the first few hours then you just start doing heists for the fbi for the rest of the game. Considering we're only getting a cinematic trailer after all this wait, I'm expecting already multiple delays or cyberpunk-level of disaster at launch
Man youre so right.... You know they are going console 1st.. then when sales die down they will release on PC. Same rinse and repeat bull shit as before.
My question is going to be how online will this one be? If it's two separate deals like 5 then cool... If not. I'm probably going to pass.
Yeah that's my question. Like many others, I grew up with the single player only GTA experience. I have so many core gaming memories just fucking about in GTA 3/vice city etc. I just really hope we get a decent single player experience.
Me too. I'll probably not buy it the first year it's on PC... Just to see how it all shakes out
The shark card whale bonanza killed any excitement I had for the franchise. I know they are gonna just milk the shit out of it, and it will probably cut into the quality of the game/experience. On the plus side, smaller games like Last Train Home kick ass and are a ton of fun, and I'm looking forward to another indie game coming out next year.
I suspect given the success of GTA online their priorities have shifted and they'll want this on as many platforms as possible on release. They're a GTA online company now, units sold are a secondary concern.
Take-Two already announced on their website there will be a time-exclusive release for PS5 and Xbox initially.
My guess is they're going to treat online like a separate game release, like they did for GTA V and RDR2, and get out a PC version when that happens.
Yeah, I am really tired of the double dipping attempts of trying to sell the game twice.
As a former Floridian, this is definitely triggering my PTSD as they seriously nailed the atmosphere of Vice City (Miami). Curious if the main characters will be as well written as V's were
Please not, V's characters were kinda meh
Michael and Trevor were pretty well written, it was just the story that was kind of lacking IMHO
Ok, I think you got a point there.
But Franklin is a very plain yes man character.
I'm more interested of how much satire, sarcasm, irony and parody they bring into gta 6. Not really care about graphics since whats shaping up gta is the satirical of the world especially usa.
If they still keep those in check on release, rockstar still had the balls.
Even though it is coming from rockstar main studios, I just hope it won't be end up like Saints Row reboot which turn out become massive joke and the volition had to close up lmao.
Honestly, if Rockstar can make a modern GTA equivalent of Saints Row 2, they’d be golden. Which is kind of ironic in a sense since Saints Row was originally the “GTA at home” clone but became amazing.
In a sense of gritty crime story telling? Yeah I'd agree. Things that make SR1 & 2 differs from GTA is that they dont shy away from goofiness and let players having fun with lots of side activity but at same time they also have coherent direction where the story heading at (like Yakuza series).
Though I would be more cautious in writing as the only veteran staff of GTA creation that stays on Rockstar is Sam Houser. Dan Houser (his brother), Leslie Benzies and some others key people had leave Rockstar games due to some internal issues as far as I know.
Just the trailer itself includes two direct parodies of real Florida people (the tatted guy on TV and the woman with two hammers)
Yeah, hard to say what they do. If they keep the GTA 5 insanity level then its hardly a parody of real life since thats where real life is at.
I find it a little upsetting that 5's parody has become only a slight exaggeration of reality
I just replayed it on PS5 for the first time since I beat it on PS3 and I was thinking the same thing.
The retards in the comments are giving me cancer.
Did we watch the same trailer? This looks fucking amazing. None of this is actual gameplay footage, and about two scenes actually look like cutscenes. but it’s all been rendered IN ENGINE. Just like every other fucking Rockstar trailer to ever exist. This looks freaking insane.
People are shitting on the 2025 release date like…..bruh. RDR2 took 8 years to develop. Rumors say this has been in development since 2019 or so, right after the release of RDR2. So 6-7 years which makes perfect sense. I’m not happy about the nearly two year wait but it fits with the development timeline.
Jesus christ I hope Rockstar parodies all of your asses to show how fucking negative the internet has become.
It's going to be the most politically satirical GTA yet and the chuds will think that it's actually dunking on libruls.
I'm with you. The trailer looks incredible and I am very eagerly anticipating the game.
The trailer showed a lot of things that would likely be a part of the GTA6 story, and for that it looks like the game is geared up to be something incredibly entertaining and FUN!
My only gripe is the PC version is likely to release after consoles :(
This is definitely at least in-engine, likely actually in-game footage:
The NPCs standing on the water also suggests NPCs are driven by the final actor and animation systems, but the animations for swimming or walking through water are just not done yet.
We also see a significant difference between the recreations of florida man memes, where every motion is keyframed to match the original videos, and the parts of the trailer where we see NPCs actually running their regular animation loops, as in the beach, club or road scenes.
Now, will we see this level of quality in game? Yes and no. Usually, a small elite team builds a vertical slice, a single mission in which every little mechanic already works, followed by many larger teams then building the rest of the game, trying to match the quality of the original template.
A good example of this is the original 40min E3 demo of cyberpunk 2077, which exists in the game 1:1 today. This vertical slice was awesome, but later missions usually had fewer alternative solutions, less polished environments and an overall lower interactivity.
So while I'm sure the robbery / prison / parole hearing part is fully fleshed out and will likely be included in the final game as-is, other parts of the game might not reach the same level of realism. Even if you ran the game on the same high-end workstations the developers are using.
Rockstar has a pretty good track record on their trailers being very close to what the actual game is.
You can generate anything in-engine, it's not representative of gameplay. Everyone does it and it's equally shitty. It looks like a minute and a half of cutscenes and, other than character reveals it looks like a normal release. It just looks like smoothed out gta5, so like....gta5 on pc. The achievement wouldn't be the graphics, it would be "can it maintain the graphics steadily and not drop frames"
Timeline is irrelevant, agreed. it will come out when it comes out.
That one scene where the guy was getting out of the car kinda looked like gta5 but the rest looked great..
It all looks great. That's kinda the expectation tbh. It does look good, but all games "look good" at this stage. This gives rise to the other question about can it look good and be stable, even on lower end hardware (ps4/x1 and mid/low pcs) for release.
But a video is a video. I realize it's so early and am not knocking it for lacking gameplay footage, just that generating a video in-engine is not representative of gameplay, or gameplay elements.
The game is announced for PS5 and Xbox Series exclusively.
It's out of the question that it will be released on PS4/XBone, GTA VI will be a proper next gen (or current gen) game. And RStar would be making a fool out of themselves releasing a last gen game in 2025.
I'm guessing it won't be released on PC for another year after the console release, but their GTA V PC Port has been optimized pretty well imho (even though they've pretty much abandoned it at this stage).
Rockstar has a great track record of their trailers being very close to the final game. Just look at any of their trailers and the final game. There's not really any reason to believe it will be different this time.
So there's nothing to care about in the trailer.
You are part of the group that I hope they parody.
Don't get your hopes up, kid. This is GTA, not south park.
Uh huh. Yeah they’ve never made fun of anyone at all. Never had any stereotypical controversies.
Fuck off man. They’re not as ridiculous as South Park but they certainly know when to critique.
Lmao what a salty fanboy. Learn what the words you use mean.
Hahaha 2025, I knew it. people are gonna be pissed 🤣
Two delays and three price changes later, this game will be fantastic when it comes out in 2027
See ya in 2030 when online is ready
I'll have to wait until the PC version comes out in 2033, but see ya then!
Was about to say the original release of GTA V wasn't an actually release since it didn't come to PC for a couple of years
Oh, you're not gonna wait for Online that long. It's gonna be their main focus for sure.
100% it's their money maker. I'd be less surprised if they delayed the campaign to get the online out.
Good that means no micro transactions
Not surprised, GTA 5 was announce 2011 and release 2013.
I have a strange feeling about the story for this game. Here's my prediction:
Lucia breaks out of prison with the help of Jason and an outside character. Lucia and Jason then go on the run turning into a Bonny and Clyde story. Doing heists and robbing people to make some cash to get away from the cops. But then, they rob the wrong person or they were forced to rob the person by the other character and are forced into the drug trade. Maybe the other character was a narco that either Lucia or Jason knew. The FIB or DEA catch wind of this and since Lucia and Jason prove to be very good criminals, they then rope them into taking down the drug trade by robbing and pulling heists.
This goes on until they both eventually find a way out or plan to pull "one last heist" that'll free them from both the narcos and the FIB or DEA. But then, whoopsie, turns out either Lucia or Jason had some ulterior motive for tagging along with one another. While Lucia or Jason was in prison, they struck a deal with either the narcos or FIB to either escape the country or wipe their record. The catch? They had to bring the other person in, kill them, or just generally betray them.
Then the final act would be one of three options. Lucia kills Jason, Jason kills Lucia, or they both fight the narcos and FIB together Bonnie and Clyde style. Either way, bullets are gonna be flying.
The end game would be only Lucia or Jason are left alive and free of both the narcos and FIB. But, Maybe they became a crime Lord in the drug trade thanks to the other person dying or the FIB unknowingly.
Based on how Rockstar makes their stories, I predict one of the two is gonna bite the bullet by the end.
Sounds exactly like something Rockstar would write. Kinda predictable, kinda "been there, done that".
Best part of GTA V for me was the social satire and Trevor being a total sociopath. The story isn't anything special, the final mission hits the wrong story beats (it should have ended with the big shootout of government bureaucracy pileup), and the gameplay has some design mistakes (like business income being completely useless, and money in general being a non-issue after the first big heist). It had bugs that prevented story progress without workarounds that were never fixed. It got a lot of praise at the time for having crazy draw distances in an open world game while working on an XBox 360. That's no longer a big deal.
I don't think it deserved all the five-star reviews it got back then.
Conversely, if the social satire is on point and the character building is solid, then I'll be happy.
Thanks, you've saved me $80.
By either
A) sacrificing themselves for the other or
B) being in a shootout with help arriving too late.
I think the "escape from prison" part won't happen, because we see Lucia with an ankle monitor in the promo pic. Implying she's on parole or something. The rest sounds plausible though.
Not disappointed in the trailer or the game or anything, but I would've loved to see a GTA set in a city outside the US. For example in a London-like city or Tokyo or Rome or Paris.
But yeah this new GTA looks sick. They did a great job in capturing the new fucked up Florida vibe.
GTA: GTA (Greater Toronto Area)
Five stars is just the RCMP apologizing to you.
Unless you're a native character...
Hahahahaha
If Rockstar wanted to bring back London '69 (maybe '89 now?) I wouldn't be mad at all.
I've always dreamed about this one, London 69 updated in their recent style. I think they talked about this before and the problem is the cops in London didn't carry guns then so it made it difficult to be a GTA game in the typical sense.
Sleeping Dogs is probably as close as you'll get. That's a great game btw.
Thanks for the reference! I'll check that out!
Solid game, I believe it began as a sequel to True crime streets of LA. It felt like I was playing an infernal affairs video game
They have police in those city.
All 2022 Rome had only 16 homicides... And street are too small and traffic is too bad for a grand theft auto... Rome is good for spy stories, thriller or stealth games. GTA wouldn't really work
In London not even police has guns... Having someone hanging around with a gun is too unrealistic, more than Harry potter
Technically... London has already been done.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto:_London_1969.
For Rome, grand theft auto in the 70s is absolutely doable. Full of gangs, terrorists, molotovs.
Grand theft auto Rome 2023 would be about some fat guy bribing politicians to get the work for his company of collect garbage and never do it. The lucrative non-fancy side of crime
Ah.. you make a very good point.
USA as a very car centric country is definitely best suited for a car centric game like Grand Theft Auto.
That's true lol. It's not called grand theft métro de Paris.
grand theft bicycle with a canal boat chase set anywhere in the Netherlands
The Getaway had plenty of car action, it was pretty neat blasting through the tight roads and navigating traffic.
I always assumed GTA to be a broad parody on modern America. From the beginning it was a new York esque mob-gang warfare, and then moved out to add in more usa adjacent scenery. It's more about keeping with the theme, let IPs like watchdogs take the initial risks.
Good point. And Florida has become crazy enough that a GTA game set there is almost realistic.
I'd like it just set in any new city outside of these 3. It's always been a rotation of Liberty, Vice and San Andreas, even back to GTA 1 (which was the 3 cities in one)
True. Chicago would've been nice. Or Atlanta.
The Florida vibe is definitely oozing from this trailer. I can almost smell it, and quite frankly I'm disgusted. Bravo. I would've preferred the next GTA being somewhere else, but maybe this it exactly where it belongs.
Agree. Florida culture has become very conductive for this kind of game.
i dunno if they find enough whacky criminal characters. Seems to be the other countries are still too normal or things are too fucked up for the series to work there.
Wiarton Ontario
I want them to spin off another top down style gta game, I love the 3d but it would be cool to see them iterate on the OG style.
GTA 2 was my favorite
GTA Chinatown Wars was great when it released for Nintendo DS and the PSP. It was actually a really well done update to the GTA 2 style of gameplay that a lot of people missed because it was a portable game. It was available on iOS and Android, too, but not sure if it's still there.
Aaand remember: Respect is everything!
That just might be a good indy game project actually....
Idk... If it hasn't happened with the Switch... Like they did with PSP and DS with GTA china town ...
CDMX
Knowing Rockstar put off development of this game for as long as they did just so they could milk GTAO for every last penny makes me hesitant at best.
I have never been let down by a GTA campaign, but they know where the money is, I'm hesitant to believe they will give this one the attention it deserves after seeing the profits from GTAO. Or maybe I'm just pessimistic
GTA5's campaign was fairly good, but it sucks they abandoned the planned additions and shoved the assets into GTAO only. I do not care to play GTAO, but I would have liked more things to do in single player. Knowing that this is likely going to have single player solely as a pipeline into GTAO though, yeah I'm sceptical too.
I think GTAO (and RDR2-O) is pretty much unplayable with all the obvious cheaters in each session. Rockstar doesnt even care if someone runs around with a K:D of > 1000:1, ruining the game for everyone else ...
Yep. I hate to say this, but they should maybe but MTX into the singleplayer game. I really don't like the idea of it, but if it's between that and nothing, I guess it's better than nothing. One time purchase DLC is clearly not appealing enough to them. That said, I could totally see it ruining singleplayer so maybe that's not the best idea...
I just wonder if they can actually figure out a way to make GTA online actually fun. Because It really isn't a good game mode.
All of the online modes that are actually fun are all modded servers. The mental servers are awful you spawn in and get blown up instantly, how's that fun?
GTAOnline has suffered from feature pile-on. I think there's an official software development term for it, but I can't remember it. It's fun, aside from the astronomical grind and push for shark cards (but there are ways around that wink wink) Even considering that, getting into it as a new player is wild.
Scope creep I think.
That's probably the wrong term. Scope creep is when you're working on a project and you keep adding new requirements to the design before you finish the existing ones. Your scope creeps further and further into the future. GTAO is a project that is available, and increasing scope hasn't seemed to delay new content.
That said, I don't know what the "correct" term would be either.
Maybe feature creep?
I usually think of scope creep as adding more and more work items, like this: you're building a bridge between two buildings. During design, you find out one of the buildings has terrible foundations that should really just be replaced. Scope creep would be deciding to replace the building foundations as part of the bridge project.
It's possible I'm not using the term correctly either though. Maybe what I've described instead is design creep, or something.
They finished GTA V release in 2015, released Red Dead Redemption II in 2018, and this will be 2025
Sounds like continuous development to me?
It’s 10 fucking years. GTA 3, Vice City, and San Andreas were all less than a couple years apart. They need to reuse that strategy of working in parallel and reusing the game engine for a few sequels before moving to the next generation.
I’m confident they would’ve released more games if GTA Online wasn’t such a money printer for them. For those of us that liked the single player though and didn’t touch online, it’s been a while!
Games were way lower fidelity and quicker to make back then, bro. It's nowhere near the same thing.
It took billions of years to make pacman and 14 years to make pacman 2. They should be able able to make GTA 6 in a week. GTA 7 should come out before Christmas.
The earlier GTA games where quicker to develop because the computers did not have the CPU power or RAM to support large cities, many different NPC models, detailed cars, objects or enviroments. This means levels, assests and the engines where much quicker to develop.
if you double width+height of your map, you have to fill 4x the area with meaningfull content, belivable cities, scripted events, nature, streets, shops, maybe NPS who have a daily routine to walk from one place to another.
Plus, you have to create a large amount of different(!) buildings to place around your map, because you dont want to recognize the same house, shop, park or Parking lot multiple times in the same street. On top of that is car physics, traffic simulation, cop chase behavior and now apparently NPCs interact with each other.
None of this has been done before, and getting this right and bugfree is not trivial - see cyberpunk.
It's 10 years since last GTA. In the middle there is a little game known as Red Dead Redemption 2, which is massive and took the whole studio to make.
Yeah I played that one. Also pretty great. Hope they build another one soon. It’s already been 5 years.
RDR2 was still phenomenal after getting the GTAO money. Rockstar can still make great single-player content when they want to.
I agree. It's just that this is the same series.. Idk maybe it will kick ass, I'm just overly cynical I guess lol
My expectation is that it will be very good, but will have no single player DLC whatsoever in lieu of GTAO2 or whatever they call it. And no, I've never forgiven them for doing that with V. At least this time I won't be expecting it.
What if it doesn't need DLC? When the concept of DLC first came out, everyone complained that devs were just releasing unfinished games and that you were obligated to buy DLC to enjoy a full experience. Now people only buy games because they're expecting DLC?
Because Rockstar did some good DLC for GTA IV and Red Dead Redemption. I agree that DLC isn't a good thing if it's carved out of the base game, but Rockstar had a good track record of making good DLC for already feature-complete games.
Unnecessarily cynical. The same series? Are Vice City, SA, and 4 considered bad games?
Did you even read my initial comment?
I explicitly said that I have never been let down by a GTA campaign. What I was saying was that RDR2 is a different series that plays by different rules. For that reason I don't feel like it's necessarily fair to use RDR2 as an example of how they will treat GTA with the respect the series deserves.
They're not going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars developing a new game only to focus on GTAV online.
Counterpoint: Warzone.
Why does it make you hesitant? GTAV isn't GTA6.
Am I the only one who no longer cares for GTA series after the Shark Code shitshow series has become ans the dropped promise of single player mods and DLC?
I’m only interested in GTA 6 for the single player game. Never played GTA 5 online for more than 30 minutes. I wish they had given us some single player DLC, but I guess Rockstar decided they could make the more money selling a handful of kids fake in game currency so why bother. It sucks for those of us that like the single player because it means we get a new game once a decade now. Used to be that Rockstar released a new GTA every couple years.
I'm still malding at how they canceled the singleplayer dlc so they could reskin and release the same content over and over on multiplayer (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
Gta online was fun at first, when it was all about fooling around in the awesome big map with friends, but after that got old, there's nothing else to do but grind boring missions that all feel the same.
I feel like a nutjob in that I just...don't really care about GTA VI. The graphics look great, I'm sure the world will be awesome, but...after what Rockstar did to GTA V's singleplayer and RDR2 as a whole (abandoning both in favor of printing money through Shark Cards), plus the whole "Rockstar Magic" working conditions thing from awhile ago (and I even forgot about the whole GTA V PC issue), I'm just not really excited for this.
Maybe I'm just disillusioned, but I was much more excited when the Armored Core 6 teaser dropped - a series I had never even played before.
The way I see it they make an amazing single player game and then use the multiplayer to fund the next one.
I never finished the last GTA but RDR2 was absolutely amazing and didn't need any dlc or expansions imo.
Yeah not sure why people want the single player to last forever lol. To me it makes sense for them to focus on the Online afterwards since that's what will stay alive after people finish the single player.
I don't see an open world game lasting as long as a sandbox game without a ton of bloat.. kinda like those super long and repetitive Ubisoft campaigns people always complain about...
I haven't played online since like 2015, but I personally liked playing through the missions with my friends
For me it's not about the singleplayer lasting forever, it's about it being completely abandoned. I agree with the idea of them making a great singleplayer story and using the online to fund their next game, but it used to be that you would see other stories told in those worlds with dlc like the Ballad of Gay Tony or even the wacky fun of RDR's Undead Nightmare. Today, that kind of stuff is relegated to online mission packs and seasonal events. They didn't even bother to do simple stuff like put new guns introduced in the multiplayer of GTA V and RDR2 into the singleplayer. If you have no interest in the online component, you have nothing more to do with the game until they release the next one in another decade.
And this isn't to say that I'm over here being angry about GTA Online. I have my issues with Shark Cards and I had my complaints over how RDR2 Online was handled, but it's been many years since I cared about that and my Shark Card gripes are about the predatory nature of how mtx are used by the industry at large, not with Rockstar in particular.
I'm mostly just feeling like I missed something. I think it looks like it's making a big step forward for graphics in games (hair physics has always been incredibly difficult to get right, for example, and the hair in this trailer looks really good) and nails a perfect vibe for a Miami based city, and I'm sure the story will be fantastic. I never finished GTA V's story, but RDR 1 and 2 are some of my favorite game stories of all time. But I saw the trailer and went "This looks like another Rockstar game, neat" while the trailer was getting 7 million views an hour for at least the first 5 hours after its release. I just don't understand why this has record-breaking hype surrounding it. Maybe it's because I didn't get pulled into GTA V's story and got turned off of GTA Online almost immediately, but this is falling squarely into "I'll pick it up eventually I imagine" territory, not day 1 purchase hype.
Maybe you're not as excited because you're not the target audience anymore.
Think of the biggest games of the last 10 years, they've all been community centered games. Among Us, Minecraft, Call of Duty, Fortnite, GTA Online, Fall Guys, etc.
I think we just grew up in a different era. I grew up playing on the PSX but my younger brother grew up on the PS4. I'm still playing the Tony Hawk remaster by myself and my younger brother is playing online games with like 6 people in the call.
I look forward to the story, but my younger brother looks forward to the online where he can have his own character and create his own story with his friends.
Gaming in general is moving in a community direction and I don't blame Rockstar for moving in that direction as well.
I'm really excited for the single player. I have absolutely zero optimism for online though.
Yep
Dude that's why I stopped playing GTA V, I finished the offline story mode and there was nothing else to do for offline.
I mean isn't that the case with most single player story games? You can still do side missions and other activities
Yea but they could've added more main story DLC.
I'm not even bothering to watch the trailer because I already had decided to never buy anything from Rockstar again prior to this announcement.
The GTAOnline situation is super wack, but R* hasn't stopped delivering great single player campaigns, well technically only one - RDR2 - since introducing shark cards, and it is still completely separate from RDROnline and the paid currency. I won't pre-order GTAVI still, even once it comes to PC, but I'm going to pick it up if the reviews are halfway decent.
I guess so. I have no idea what you're talking about. GTA V was awesome.
You're mad that the online component of GTAV had premium currency microtransactions? Just don't buy them. Also, there are loads of single player mods for V, don't know what you mean.
No, they're mad that any singleplayer content planned for GTA 5 (and RDR2) in the past decade was abandoned for the money printing machine that is GTA Online. There's issues to be had with premium currencies (more specifically the stuff that usually goes along with them like lootboxes), but that's not just a GTA thing.
Also, just because other people created content for a game through mods doesn't mean we should give the company that made the game credit. That's like praising a Bethesda game based on a total overhaul mod somebody made.
This is a weird fucking place, bro.
Like, I thought reddit was full of bitter cynics, but only on Lemmy could I find an entire GAMING community that is angry at the next GTA game.
This place must be full of 55+ year olds or something.
You can't join into multiplayer/gta online unless you disable all mods. For a live service that needs loading Individually it still doesn't operate as good as it should especially when they have the funds for it. They dont care for the player experience. After 4 times having to enable, test and disable mods just to play online with friends, I dropped gta V all together. Wasn't worth co figuring 150+ mods just to have them all break when you have to disable them.
That's to be expected. But if you only play games because mods exist, do you even like the games you play?
if you're that dedicated to mods and online multi, you should probably have two systems. Of course mods aren't gonna play nice with an online mutli.
Looks great. I knew after the RDR2 crocs we were going to be getting much better wildlife, which is very exciting.
Graphics look awesome, promising Bonnie and Clyde story.
Seem to have expanded out their in game social media and Internet designs.
Figured it would be 2025 as historically the first trailer always comes out around a year and a half before the game is slated to.
GTA is out of touch with the times. These days it's all grand theft catalytic converter and leave your car in a shit state where you don't know what's even wrong with it if you aren't a mechanic.
I'm cautiously optimistic. I really hope this isn't the first GTA game they ruin. I hate that they discarded the additions to GTA V's single-player in exchange for GTA Online updates, I hope they won't do that here, even though I did actually enjoy GTA Online too.
All GTA onlines have the been the biggest pieces of shit in my opinion.
Never spent a cent and never will.
It was real dirty of Rockstar doing that.
Overreaction much? GTA4 online granted didn't even work, but V online is exactly how you want GTA online to behave, minus the load times. No one is forcing you to play online. You'll easily get 100 hours just fucking around in single player.
I honestly well and truly loved gta Iv's online. Keep it simple I say
I always thought I wanted GTA Online during the GTA3 era. Then when it became a reality, I realized I really didn’t want it and preferred the single player. The moment the story ends though, I have zero interest. Same with RDR2. Don’t care much to run around an empty world trying to collect 100% completion. Online is toxic and boring. Anything with an in game currency that you can buy with real money is a no from me. I guess I grew up in a different era when games were games and not gambling scams.
Well I guess this is where different Motivations for gaming come into play. I spent 800+ hours in GTA Online and most of that time was just spending time with my friends. Never spent a single Euro for Shark Cards.
It really isn't. The idea started great, but they focused way too much on lobby play instead of missions. And lobbies were just not good, because of tech problems and because they just gave out overpowered stuff there you can't counter. It all just felt too much, instead of your character just being a trailer gangster. And it's very obvious that everything is focused on you having to buy shark cards. I enjoyed 3rd party clients way more.
I won't be pre-ordering (because they likely won't be releasing on PC at launch, ugh), but I have high hopes. There hasn't been a R* game without a killer story. I kinda expected RDR2's story to be an afterthought to the online, as that was their first game since GTAOnline, however it was still an awesome single player campaign.
We don't preorder games here. It will be the best selling game of 2025. You'll get a copy.
Sorry, I wouldn't pre-order even if it was released on PC at launch, I didn't make that clear.
Also, as if anyone should be worried about getting a copy when digital distrubition exists.
At what point in history did Rockstar release a sub-par game?
They didn't yet, but they could at any time. Enshitification is a real thing and it's starting to become more widespread. I just have to hope that GTA 6 will be good. I think it probably will be.
I was disappointed by GTAV - yeah graphics were great, huge world and all, but they skimped on the writing.
IMO almost every GTA has had derivative writing and set ups, but it's okay because of everything else taking the spotlight. 3 was just Claude doing random missions until one mission lets you get revenge on Catalina and then the game just ends. Vice City is a revenge plot sort of but it's just Tommy doing random jobs until Sonny's like "oh you fancy huh?". SA's story was just batshit crazy all over the place. 4 IMO had the actual good story and didn't seem derivative. Niko was a genuinely interesting character. V's story was just straight forward "criminals finding out who snitched", satisfying, but a bit scant. I just ask for a serviceable crime plot set in a vibrant and lived in world.
IV was the one I spent the most time on, so that makes sense. But with V it's not a lack of depth, more a lack of continuity. Of course it's been so long since I played it I can't remember any specific examples, I just remember being disappointed, and thinking they spent so much time/money on the physics, they had nothing left for the story ..
I dont remember the gta v launch, but i definatly remember the cyberpunk hype and launch
You don't remember V's launch? It was a massive success.
I wasnt on the internet back then. Got open access to the internet around 2015.
Dude, people took off work for that launch.
And that's why this is a console only release for now.
That's what doomed cyberpunk. I got my Series X halfway through the campaign, and it was a different game on the X vs the One. I wish they had scrapped current gen plans for that game and went next gen only. It would have been a more successful launch.
Get hyped for GTA: Florida Man!
Seriously, I'm in NW FL, nowhere near real cities, but this seems spot on.
Florida simulator.
I hope this is going to be good. But I'm not going to hold my breath. Because we are talking about Take-Two and Rockstar here.
Help a woman who needs an abortion
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Tell kids about gay people
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Eh, since that law applies to classroom instruction, they'd have to save that one for a Bully sequel.
When has Rockstar themselves put out a bad game?
Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition was bad.
EDIT Manhunt 2 was bad. When comparing it to the first game.
i don’t really count remasters that were outsourced, that is 2k and grove street games’ sin
Rockstar did okay it.
Take-Two are be pretty scummy (especially the sports game division), but Rockstar don't miss.
Expect evolution not revolution, but we're going back to Vice City, so count me in.
I'm just concerned that they're going to go all in on GTA online 2.
They either need to make sure they put a huge amount of effort into the single player or they need to completely rework online play.
They didn't for Red Dead 2. I don't see why they would for this.
I've haven't touched the multiplayer player content in any of their games, and never felt short changed by what I got.
I was thinking the same, but then again taking a long time to put games out isn't the same as putting out broken games. I mean rdr, rdr2, and gtav are stellar games that launched without any glaring faults iirc. Taking time is fine as long as we get a complete product.
Ahh yes the "cautious gamer that doesn't think GTA is going to be good" archetype.
Stoked for Vice City and the graphics look pretty good!
Won't hold my breath for PC release in 2025 but one can dream.
I am guessing they’ll wait until after new consoles are released. Let people buy ps5/xXxboxXxSeriesNexXxt remastered. Then let people buy the pc version. Get 3 copies sold to each of most hardcore gamers.
Wonder how much effort they will put into preventing mods this time. I know they bought 5M so it seem they will want to shut all the unauthorized mod communities down.
Nah, that's too far. You're talking like 2028 there for the next gen consoles. PC probably gonna come 6-12 months later, like almost always.
I wonder how much that will be true this time around. This is the first console Gen where I have no plans to get a console, so they can't even entice me to double dip due to lack of a console. And if I haven't got a console by 2024 I won't be getting one just for one game. Exclusives don't have the same draw anymore, since they've started getting ported.
Only console I've held onto was the Wii. Unless a Wii release is coming, I'm doomed to wait for a PC release.
One silver lining I see in delayed release is that I have less of an incentive to upgrade my GPU until then, and new GPU might be out that should hopefully handle it maxed out when I do get into it.
Next gen consoles are years out. You're looking at 2029 at the earliest for the next generation of consoles.
This is a very accurate representation of the USA tbh (source: am american)
I said this for a few years now, but the modern USA has reached the insanity level of the GTA Universe
Hence America is a free-for-all wasteland. Unsafe for LGBT people, investment and migration, if ever GOP wins presidency and the Congress.
Game set in Florida> Alligator enters store> Best GTA game.
"Florida Man: The Game"
Pizza Gator better be in there too! My man Gumbo deserves his 15 minutes.
Rockstar's gonna have to turn the satire up to 12 to beat the reality of Florida in 2025.
The fact that they got the twerk animation to be so realistic gives me confidence that they're raising the bar and putting in the work on this game. Also every rule 34 modder is gonna take full advantage of this
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If 2025 deadline is met then will probably be 2026-2027 for PC release.
Of all the trailers, this certainly is one.
Certainly a trailer for one the games of 2025 at that!
If this isn't coming out until 2025, I worry about how dated the graphics already look. It's like they took the same old models/rigs and just brought them into higher definition? Idk, but something looks off about them to me. It definitely doesn't help the $70-80 price tags that companies are trying to justify when graphics look mostly the same as they ever have.
I think we might have hit peak realism with graphics and need to lean harder into art direction.
I believe those are in game graphics!
Rockstar has done nothing but actual in-game footage for trailers since like GTA3. So, yeah, that shit is fucking insane. Doesn't even look like a PS5 could run it.
As comments on GAF have been pointing out, 2025 will be after the PS5 Pro.
What I can't figure is how this will run on the Series S.
They must have magicians working for them or something. I guess that's the advantage of using a completely tailor made engine created with unlimited funding, rather than using Unreal or something.
They certainly have some tricks and talent. GTA 5 ran on the launch 360 which had 512mb of RAM shared between CPU and GPU.
Well Microsoft has already shown they will cave to have a game, so probably just won’t be on it so it can still be on an Xbox in some form.
Nah, the press release says it's releasing on the S
So did BG3 at the start and we all know how that went. Microsoft had to reneg on multiple policies just so they could have the game on their consoles.
I believe only the local Co-op was removed though? And the optimizations made for XSS were beneficial to all other platforms as well as they stated, and the game runs now much better on PC and PS5
The optimizations would have been done eventually anyways and Xbox had policies that they had to bend just to have the game on their systems.
People can say the game is coming, but that doesn’t mean it’s happening, it’s already been an issue and will be a continuing issue going forward. The console just isn’t that powerful.
If the game does release, it won’t be the same game as the X, not a chance.
I doubt they would do the optimizations at the same degree, because they wouldn't need to. It was working fine on the PS5 already, it was already a success on PC. Why bother much?
They have done plenty of other optimizations already. So why would you think that? Of your logic was remotely true not any optimizations would have been done since it’s a waste.
Clearly they aren’t that type of company (every company does continuing optimizations FFS LMFAO), so don’t make shit up to try and make a point.
It looked great other than NPCs, they were a bit off, stilted and blocky
Lol fucking internet. "Blocky"
Great input, fucking internet.
What kind of games are you playing where the graphics in that trailer were subpar? Everything looked great
I literally used the word great in my comment, just a couple of the NPCs looked odd to me. The first girl in the bikini is walking odd or something.
I mean, they look nothing like RL people, but still there is some progress.
Man the graphics looks great. The lighting especially. Looking forward to seeing actual gameplay next trailer.
Maybe I'm just getting old but the gameplay loop of Rockstar games has gotten tired. RDR2 was gorgeous but the mission formula was just so boring.
Really? I thought the lighting and environments looked good, but the models definitely need some work. They look like clay mannequins in an HD world to me, and I feel like that's only gonna get more exacerbated since this doesn't come out for another 2 years.
Meh. I'm going to disagree. I feel the graphics were underwhelming given the time they took. The scenery was beautiful but the characters and NPCs need some major work.
Elden Ring was better. Cyberpunk is better. Fortnite is better.
They are making us wait 2 more years and I don't even care because it's been that long and they have fallen behind.
Fortnite is better? Are we looking at the same video?
Have you played the season that just dropped? It is better than most games. And I'm not some casual. I have a very respectable PC and gaming laptop under Linux and Windows. I know graphics quality.
Well, it's hard to get me hyped but here I am like Cartman asking Butters to freeze him until Nintendo wii comes out..
On the side note, it seems like the story of the game is going to go around treachery again.
It's Bonnie and Clyde. Bonnie and Clyde were crappy criminals but they were quite famous for their media presence. I think this one will have the protagonists be social media star criminals, and it will come back and bite them.
Also, one dies, iirc.I like the Bonnie and Clyde angle, but after that, you lost me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_VI?wprov=sfla1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonnie_and_Clyde?wprov=sfla1
Now watch the trailer again after looking at this: https://www.ign.com/wikis/gta-6/Social_Media_in_GTA_6
A Bonnie and Clyde social media fueled rolling catastrophy in a place that is very much also a rolling catastrophy (FL), seems pretty on par for GTA. They often mimic classics, GTAV had some underpinnings in the Three Musketeers (think: all for one, one for all ending).
https://epicrapbattlesofhistory.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Fametown/Trevor,_Michael,_%26_Franklin_vs_The_Three_Musketeers
The consequences of media buzz IS the story of Bonnie and Clyde. It's unlikely they would have been chased by police like they were without the newspapers. They were petty criminals.
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I agree the foreshadowing means one will die or betray the other somehow. Will bet 100 shark bucks or whatever on it.
Trevor would love it there.
This looks amazing. Ig I have no reason to think so but I really hope it releases on PC at the same time as consoles
I'd wish so too but as usual >= +1 year
Bad news everyone! It most definitely will NOT release on PC until at least 2026, maybe later! Wheeee
Vice City is back baby
POC HAIRSTYLES COMING CORRECT, LETS FUCKING GO!!! they even got Wicks right?!? oh my fucking god!?
I might go feral if they don't release on PC at launch. This looks INCREDIBLE, they've knocked it out of the park.
Rockstar historically always have delayed pc port, and issues on launch for their pc release. Maybe 2026 is more on reality (gta 4 pc port is released in less than a year, and it was the worst performing gta on pc iirc).
Historically consoles have been much more specialized. The last GTA came out in the PS3 era. The PS3 used the cell microprocessor which was famously hard to develop for.
The latest consoles run AMD Zen CPUs, very similar to those found in most gaming PCs.
Yeah, unfortunately im prepared for that being the reality :(
IIRC GTA V had basically no issues at launch. RDR2 had some crashing issues, but otherwise it's like one of the best optimized and most scalable PC ports I've ever seen.
As someone who back in 2010s up to 2016 regularly visits gtaforums to discuss modding and waiting for gta v pc release, I can say no. People back in 2015 launch had issues ranging from simply unable to launch, infinite loading screen, close to the desktop, to missing graphical effects (even after driver update).
In term of recent gta release, gta v definitely is more optimized in a sense but if your information based on something like Digital Foundry retrospective videos... Well idk, since they tested it with "optimized" setting and not in launch version.
Just my 2cent from my past experience.
Fair enough. I did play PC at launch but that was like almost 9 years ago so I don't really remember much
When was the last major Rockstar release that came out simultaneously on consoles and PC? Max Payne 3 maybe? I assume it will be console exclusive and then PC a year later.
Already confirmed in press release that it's only releasing for PS5 and Xbox. No PC launch on 2025.
Not surprised, but exceptionally lame.
ZOOOOOOOOOWEEEEEEEEEEMAMAMAAA
If it's not like no pixel, I'm not interested
They bought No Pixel.
Ok, NOW I'm exited. That is so cool
What are you talking about?
https://www.engadget.com/rockstar-recruits-the-team-behind-the-biggest-gta-v-roleplay-community-163911086.html NoPixel is a FiveM server with RS funding iirc.
No pixel
yes pixel?
I should play GTA5. Still havent touched it. I think I have it on PS3 somewhere...
Alligator! Alligator!
Looks fine?
It looks like a modded GTAV.
Granted, its still well over a year out.
But Meh.
Especially since Rockstar will probably hyper focus on online multi and milking the whales, and give a shitty single player experience again.
Gta5 had a shitty single player experience? Did we play the same game? Wtf?or rdr2, another Rockstar game?
Shit on Rockstar all you want, but their game have entertaining stories...
They did leave a lot of stuff for online only, never even updating things in singleplayer.
I'd argue I got my 60usd worth of content out of the single player. I can understand they focused on MP for further content.
Would've made sense if they had it for sale as SP DLC
Considering the going rate for games anymore seems to be 10 hours of game play for 60 dollars, I can believe you on that comment at least.
You finished the gta 5 campaign in 10h? You just speedran it once?
If not, nice hyperbole...
(rdr2 campaign was also more than 10h, to name a recentish Rockstar game) . Many other big AAA titles aside from cod also have campaigns that last longer than 10h.
"Sequel to game looks like improved version of game".
Not sure what point you're trying to make here?
I think the point is - it's disappointing to see GTA 5 2.0. I expected something more, something different, less generic, not just another coastal city or a GTA 5 clone. It seems like they just merged the engine update with GTA 5. Watching the trailer bored me, like being forced to watch a mediocre action comedy movie. I don't know how the majority of the game will feel, but this trailer is just so generic. If this were a movie, no one would care. Maybe that's the point, but still, my hype is somewhat gone. I at least expected a different scenario than this GTA 5 DLC story or at least set it somewhere other than a coastal city.
Waiting for GTA Wyoming with trailer park beef and fentanyl processing
I think they are totally planning on adding the new map to GTA Online. Just like in Vice City you visited the original GTA 3 map.
there are gta v mods that add rtgi and hair simulation?
Looks like GTA V with mods. I don't get everyone being so excited about the graphics.
Maybe this are console players who haven't seen GTA V on PC but graphics wise it doesn't seem like a huge upgrade.
Sure I'm excited for the story and new possibilities like being able to enter more buildings and maybe more activities like in rdr2 but graphics wise it kinda looks "normal".
I genuinely think that's pretty naive. The graphics themselves do look better than V but the lighting, the water and the business is a real upgrade.
You have no clue what you're talking about.
The animation system is on a whole other level, the hair simulation is leaps and bounds above anything you can mod into V, it's obviously using a modern PBR rendered and a ton of other things that makes both just night and day.
Go watch V's trailer (which for the time was incredible for an open world game) side by side with this and open your eyes.
Their testicles are affected by the ambient temperature.
there are gta v mods that add rtgi and hair simulation?
Bruh, I play V constantly. VI is looking a lot better. Most people didn't play V on PS5 and Xbox Series, they played it on PS4 and Xbone.
I played it on a god damn 360
How to say PC Master Race without saying PC Master Race.
I got tired a long time ago of games unnecessarily forcing phones and social media into them. They're never done well, and real life social media sucks enough, we don't need more of it in games.
GTA has always had them as a parody though.
Going back to beepers even...
Looks like an absolute celebration of all the worst things America is known for. Pass, thanks.
Yeah because the other 5 main series crime simulator games really spoke to the soul of the country
Goddamn, that was funny
It's more of a satire of them but sure.
do we tell him
You should check out this happening hip website called Reddit, my man. There will be lots of folks there that will agree with you.
You mean that website where a large majority of fediverse users came from?
Yeah, wouldn’t be surprised if there was some communal overlap…
Lmao do you know what platform you're on right now? I'm actually surprised OP is getting downvoted because this type of comment is the epitome of Lemmy. Missing satire/missing the point, anti-American, pointlessly bringing in politics/culture in a negative way. This has been my experience 80% of the time here.
Ahh, just like Reddit
Reddit is hardly anti-American in the aggregate. And not nearly the same percentage of posts get political for no reason. Definitely agree on missing satire, though. Lemmy is just hyper-distilled reddit.
It's a Scottish made satire of the absolute worst things America is known for...so...yeah...