Why do Lemmy users rarely use emoticons?
Reading comments in different communities, I noticed that users hardly leave smilies. Why is that?
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Reading comments in different communities, I noticed that users hardly leave smilies. Why is that?
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No idea, here's a sword
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That's a nice sword.
Massive fucking sord
that’s what she said
Every single time I get naked.
It’s a chore.
...Go on... /s
BigDickProblems was such a hilarious subreddit, i shit like IAmVerySmart and such. Its so easy to see thru often
But don’t you know condoms burst at the sight of my shlong? It has nothing to do with the fact that the sight of naked me dries up a pussy quicker than a fucking hairdryer.
I wonder if that was a medieval torture thing
Dry rape? Bro it’s a torture thing today
No like letting someone "dry out", rheres no way they didnt think of that already
Edit: what is "dry rape"?
here's a rocket ship 8=======D~~~
second a few other comments, a lot of people conflating emoticons and emojis
It's understandable. Back in the old old days, these 😱 were often called emoticons. The reason was that the chat software that people used to automatically replaced ;-) by 😉. The menu was the same and the name of this menu was emoticon.
One of the most famous example of this is MSN Messenger.
People keep the habit to call them emoticons.
In the old old days, emojis didn’t exist yet, until NTT DoCoMo created them for mobile phones. Emoticons predate them.
I propose that we call the symbols in both emoticons and emoji "emos".
And we call emos, goths
I wonder what happened to all the emo girls
no, no … emo and goth are different, goths have fashion sense …
Very true. Also, I believe you forgot to escape the 2nd ^ symbol? I think it should look like this:
=>^.^<=
For me emoticons were something that started when all of the boomers came to Facebook. Floods and floods of useless emojis left and right. So now I feel weird using them, like I'm cheapening the platform while also acting like the people that ruined Facebook for me
Are emojis considered emoticons? Call me old but I think this is an emoticon ;-) and this is an emoji 😉
Agreed! Although the little image things on message boards like phpBB, ProBoards and Invision were also emoticons, even though they were basically early onset emojis
Emoticons are old internet. Emojis are boomer, normie, and corpo friendly translations.
Who is booing this man? He is completely correct
Wait, who was using "old Internet" if not boomers?
The nerds who made the tech.
Psst.. the nerds were mostly boomers...
I know my one professor used punch cards and worked on some of the data structures. But it was people who cared about how tech worked.
Most boomers I know still can't use a mouse. Millennials and gen X fill most of the old Internet in my mind, but the original '91 Internet was a lot of tech focused boomers, but also was significantly Gen X. '95-'99 seemed to pick up more traction with my generation.
I think it's sample bias. I graduated with a CS degree in 85 and started working as a software engineer in aerospace. It was pretty much all boomers when I started.
There might be more people from later generations who grew up doing their homework on computers, so the disparity between tech folks and non-tech folks in those later generations seems less, but the Internet was mostly created by boomer tech people.
I'm the senior manager of the organization I started in in 85, and I still have boomers working for me.
I have a negative attitude to standard emoticons built into Android and iOS. They don’t look good, they’re too many.
I'm interested to know who uses emoticons depicting, for example, player rewind icons or rectangular shapes. Are there people who use these emoticons at least once a year?
I make apps and I use them for prototyping buttons and stuff... So yeah, pretty often.
Sounds intriguing. How does that look?
Could just look like this. It's a dumb little stopwatch app I made some time ago to explain a different concept. All it uses is plain HTML, CSS, and Javascript. Because I could use emojis as icons, I didn't need to bring in a separate icon pack.
If I didn't have access to emojis at all, I probably would have just used text only... But if I'm prototyping an app that I'm building for someone else, it helps make it look closer to the real thing, and that's kinda nice.
Hmm... Then wouldn't it be logical on the part of mobile OS developers to make the extended set of emoticons hidden by default and enabled through system settings? Or make an extended set of smileys as an app that can be installed through the app directory?
Maybe! The MacOS emoji picker actually does this: You can choose which categories to include or omit, and set favorites... And not all of them are enabled by default. No reason phone keyboards couldn't do the same thing. MacOS calls most of what we'd consider "emojis" to be one category though, lol... So that wouldn't actually solve the problem. But it's possible.
Installing them like an app wouldn't really be a thing though-- Emojis are part of Unicode, which means they're essentially text characters. You wouldn't want to omit those from the system entirely, because if they appear in text, you still want to be able to render them. Kind of like... You might not need (or want) a convenient way to write an "é," but it'd be annoying if somebody wrote "the appetizers were good, but the entrée was just okay" and you saw "entr�e" because you didn't have the right app installed.
Personally, I'd rather have access to everything and just use search to find the one I want, but it might be nice to have the option to omit categories that you aren't interested in.
Personally I feel like if I need to use one, then I've done a poor job of writing.
I guess the other component is that I write a lot at work (I'm an engineering manager) and emoticons aren't really appropriate for that kind of communication, so I'm not in the habit of using them.
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Such an emoji can be sent to a customer when all deadlines have passed.
What kind of engineering manager isn’t using a dramatic shrug emoji or emoticon dozens of times every day?!
Don’t tell me your team has their shit together.
I prefer to walk to their desks and make the expressions and gestures in person.
😂 what!? I've worked with 11 engineering managers and they've all used emojis. You're either not in software or you work for a bank/insurance.
Not sure what to tell you, I'm the senior manager for software engineering in a company that makes rocket engines, solid rocket motors, and space electrical power systems. I've been working there for 38 years and emojis are pretty rare.
I also work with space electrical power systems. That was an odd thing to see in the wild lol
Huh interesting. Are you comfortable saying more? The company I work for did the EPS for the ISS, we did the MMRTGs for the Mars rovers, and some others. We're not at the same place, are we?
I work on other projects, not the rovers or ISS. I’m in Houston.
If you're at JSC, maybe you're our customer.
Exactly, not in software as in, not working for a software company.
I did start by saying I was an engineering manager, so I thought that part was a given
Sorry! I've only heard that title used in the context of software engineering gigs.
Hmmm, maybe we have a semantic issue. That's literally my title: Senior Manager, Software Engineering. But it's a heavily engineering company, not a heavily software company.
Yeah, makes perfect sense!
You’re just older. Has nothing to do with being an engineering manager.
Emoticons started getting popular in the 90s, so I'm in the age group where that was happening. You'll see other people in this thread saying they felt like it was a boomer thing. I don't think my age is the reason.
My hypothesis: Lemmy has an older userbase, and in general older people feel less of a need to express their emotions. They're busier discussing the topic than highlighting their attitude towards it.
Perhaps cultural reinforcement plays a role, too. As emoticons and emojis are less used, they feel more out of place, so people who'd use them elsewhere avoid them here.
My 80 old father-in-law spams emoticons like he's a 15 year old girl. Cringe-worthy and hillarious at the same time 😂
I have stopped contacting family members because the constant emoji spam kills all desire to have a conversation with them. Feels like empty meaningless chatter.
I only use emoticons to clarify an emotional message. On forums, I'm more interested in sharing and discussing ideas and opinions. Emoticon spam makes me sick with worthless cringe.
I use emojis only because my phone suggests them at the end of sentences 🙃
All these people singing the praises of emoticons over emojis, and not a single XD to be seen. I know you're old enough to remember the XD times! XD you cowards!
I xD all the time 😤
I like to throw it around sometimes, especially when I need to soften a statement or when someone says something so stupid I can't help but laugh XD
ITT: People conflating emojis and emoticons.
In msn messenger emoticons were what emojis are today. So to me emoticons and emojis are the same... i dont what to call the things op refers to... maybe ASCII emoticons?
Edit: turns out im wrong https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoticon
Edit: sort of wrong... emojis are also officially called emoticons
It probably doesn't help that a lot of things will take your emoticons and automatically convert them into emojis for you. Like you type :-) and it changes it to 🙂 without even asking. I've run into this in a lot of chat clients.
Yeah, I'm confused. I do use emoticons and I rarely use emojis. What half of that is relevant here?
Does the distinction truly matter?
In some ways no, but communication is complicated. Emoticons and emojis feel different when used I feel like. :) and 🙂 is not the same.
They're also used by different generations of people I think. So in that way it is meaningful to talk about them as separate concepts.
Emoticons are representations of emotions. We don't have those. We're dead inside.
Emoticons are like swear words.
I use them sparingly not because I disapprove of them, but to preserve their effectiveness.
I have been sparing the almighty hell out of mine. When they drop it will be epic.
We don't like when people add color to our monochromatic text.
I find them obnoxius, just like inserting animated gifs and meme responses. If used in serious context it makes the whole post look cringe, using them to replace words is fit only for smartphone troglodytes sending character-limited posts/SMS.
I use them as a complement in my messages where I want to convey an emotion which isn't obvious from the text itself. Like if I'm being self-deprecating in a joking manner, e.g. Not very easy to convey in text. But if I add some kind of smiling-ish emoji or something, it's clearer that I'm not serious.
Overuse is cringe however.
If something isn't obvious from the text, why not change the /style/ of writing instead of appending dissonant graphics? Make it obviously sarcastic or humorous, instead of leaving the users guessing if its satire or sincere expression.
Not everyone is good at that type of thing. 🙃
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👌💥
🤣
👍
Just for you
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Sync?
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Few more for the set:
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People on Reddit rarely did, and I feel like this behavior has spread to Lemmy.
True, it's basically culture.
I use them for texts but never for Lemmy or reddit.
Aside from using them in reactions during discussions with group that I know (Discord, Chat/Hangouts), they're too fuzzy in definition to be useful in conversations. When reading on Lemmy if I run into emoticons, I just skip over them as noise in the stream. I don't even try to figure out what the person is trying to convey since I'm not going to be able to track whatever the latest trends are in their meaning. It's the same reason you don't spam a public forum like this with youth slang if you want to communicate with a wide demographic of members.
I didn't realise the meaning of emoticons could change. Now I'm thinking 'what if the cat image I put at the end of the text means something bad?' 😾
As a cat owner, can confirm cats are always bad. The best bad decisions I've made, are my two little fuzz balls. And I hope they're happy with me as well.
They are the reason we don't have a Christmas tree anymore.
A lot of us came from reddit where it was considered taboo to use emojis.
Also Reddit didn’t support emojis for a long time. But yeah, it was considered very “normie” (hate that term but applicable)
But emoticons usually didn't see the same hate though :)
Wow, I didn't know that. You don't know the reason?
You looked like you were fresh off the bus from Facebook.
The yoots make fun of me when I do :(
It's sad. 🙁
😂👆 🤡🤡🤡
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I think most oldies are embarrassed by them. I'm not though, but I only surf the world wide web from my phone, so perhaps I'm more hip 😎
I think people 😘 find them more obnoxious 😱 than informative, and rate 💯 opinions higher than 😜 emotional reactions, because emotions are 🤑 cheap and add nothing to a constructive 🏗️ discussion
This sums it up. It's meaningless noise. I wish there were a stable way of removing all emojis from a page via browser extension. Chrome's kinda broke youtube comments, filtering out comments that didn't have emojis, haven't looked for a firefox replacement yet.
Emotional Italians will disagree with you.
I'm dating one, and she disagrees ("Miiiiiii...")
I'll probably respond here instead of under the post: I use emojis to denote sarcasm or strong reactions usually, so I don't feel the need to spray posts with them.
Otoh they do have an ability to make anything seem silly and/or advertising 😅 so for the comical effect, why not 乁( ⁰͡ Ĺ̯ ⁰͡ ) ㄏ
I mean, if the words are still there its literally nothing else left but personal tastes. It adds, not subtracts, even if people dislike it. The disliker certainly isnt realesed from their obligation to answer the question if they so crave being heard
🤟 That's... Metal, man.
Emoji give us an extra avenue of encoding emotion into our text, something that is usually difficult. So I think everyone should be using them 🤓
I thought I understood your comment until I got to the emoji. I'm not sure if they work terribly well
We prefer to use our words.
It almost feels like talking to a child when I see emoji spam from people. Emojis are just cheap, which makes them way less valuable by definition and added visual noise distracts from the point.
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Your arm's off!
Tis but a flesh wound
on Jerboa his arm is missing, but re appears when I enter the "reply" window 🤔
Everything after ascii art was a mistake. It feels childish to use emoticons, a lot of users here grew up on platforms that only had text and to see emoticons is jarring. Needing to use an image for emotional context is poor writing.
Me personally I feel like it's less about seeing them and more that I see so many.
Why I personally don't use emoji that often, especially on Lemmy, in no particular order:
Call me an old man yelling at cloud if you want but simple shit like :) worked for conveying emotional tone or facial expression in a way that emoji just don't. Like consider these two: 😀 😃 "Smiling face" and "Smiling face with big eyes." Without them right next to each other, you probably wouldn't realize the difference, so why are they both in the standard?
Afaik the red "O" means ok in japanese while the "X" means.
That example kinda makes it even funnier :D
The X means....... What?? Don't leave me hanging!;
No.
::: spoiler spoiler That's the joke. :::
See amd I was just going for "a red hole." emoji are useless for communicating.
That's an interesting question. Many other emoticons in the standard set are just as questionable. It is especially interesting to find out who came up with this set and decided that this number of emoticons and their varieties is what the user needs.
As for the fact that the mobile emoji set looks too small for desktop pc, perhaps Lemmy should make her own emoji set?
Who came up with them: Japanese telecom companies. Back when doing their version of SMS, they found they had some room left over in the character set, so they included some little pictures you could send as if they were text characters. The Unicode Consortium included them in the Unicode standard, and Apple quietly included support for them in the iOS onscreen keyboard. They put it in there for Japanese users, but left it in for the rest of the world as well. And in the words of Tom Scott, some westerner found out "I can send piles of poo to my friends!"
This is why some of them are...slightly strange. "Levitating man in a suit" was some company's logo. The face that is exhaling clouds of steam is labeled "triumph" when in the west we associate that image with aggression, anger and frustration. It's why there's an emoji for "love hotel." Emoji have since been adopted worldwide and expanded...possibly excessively.
I'm coming from the old ages of internet where we didn't have them. I'm fine with them, but I'm too old to use them comfortably.
It's fine. Use them if you like, but I don't really see the value in systems such as Discord where you pay money to have special emojis and so on...
Scott E. Fahlman proposed using :-) and :-( to mark jokes and not-jokes respectively in internet posts in 1982, and they (and lots of variations) have been in use ever since. IBM's Codepage 437 character set (as used by the original PC) had two dedicated smiley characters even before that.
There was no golden age of the internet where there were no emoticons.
Old internet days you went to a site to make them for you and you copy pasted them into some stupid AOL/ICQ chat , and then later on for me irc. Now they are part of a lot of clients UI. (⌐■_■)
You're talking about emojis. OP is talking about emoticons. They are not the same. Emoji = 🙂, emoticon = :)
I can use them if I want. 🙂
I just don't feel like it ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
They just take so much work to type or find when emojis look the same 😏 like it's literally the same thing just coloured in a picture
well I don't have such a menu for those premade faces, so I just use emoji's instead..., those larger ones take up too much space imo.
I'll use :) , :(, :/, :P, :D, :|, ;) :O, XD... they are nice and compact and get the point across.
I'm used to calling those emoticons. Emojis are things like 👶🦈🎶
I think what they're saying is that they don't use the larger emoticons because they don't have a menu of them, so they mostly use emojis instead, but they'll sometimes use the smaller emoticons.
you dont even have a pfp
Back in my day we called them avatars, youngster!
And we used to have to manually write the hexadecimal values of colors in arrays by hand to generate them. Uphill, both ways.
Usually I only use them when I personally know who I'm talking to. Because who knows how a random person will react to an emoji, misunderstanding their meaning, unintentionally or intentionally.
I also sometimes use them to indicate how casual my post is and should not be taken too seriously.
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I adore how sparkle happy this one is <3
I don't like to have to press a button, then search for an emoji. Emoticons are faster to write, I mostly use the
:),:/, etc.I changed that in Mastodon, for example. Someone told me that screen readers have trouble reading emoticons, so I mostly use stickers or emojis there.
That's very thoughtful of you colon right parenthesis
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Don't generally see a reason to
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I use this emoji so much in my team chat instead of a thumbs up lol
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Because this isn't Reddit.. I'm after quality discussions
The double period is simultaneously the most elderly thing and outside of any style guide.
You're spot on. I'm turning 40 in a few weeks
If I had to guess… it’s because most people on Lemmy are over the age of 12?
You angered a few of the rugrats with that comment. LoL j/k xD :O ;-/
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Well, personally, I grew up with more primitive emoticons and usually just eschew including smiles entirely. I'll use them with friends but I tend to communicate more formally in public forums.
I'm on desktop :(
On Windows: Win + .
Would you look at that, TIL!
I'll forget tomorrow though.
Same on Linux (using KDE plasma)
Cmd+Ctrl+Space on MacOS
Can probably be remapped too, personally I like how simple the shortcut in Windows is (
Win+.).I'd remap it to
Cmd+.On the Moon: Ganymede
on linux: ibus
There is a tab with emoticons in the text input field of Lemmy's posts. At least in the mobile version of the site.
Because we're adults.
Boooooring
Examines finances.
Wife? We'll need to cut down on the toilet paper this year.
Ok honey. But how about cutting down drinking beer to five times a week instead of seven?
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Haven't felt the need to use them as often. Emojis and "lol haha" work fine for me.
This is the first time I ever saw someone actually use the Inuktitut script.
Ah I wasn't aware which script it was. It's just one of the emoticons available in Sync for Lemmy.
Cool.
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Here, you dropped this: \
I'm not sure why it does that. The slash was definitely in there.
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Edit: other people are apparently having this issue
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That's markdown, baby!
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I'm gonna start promoting the one w the slightly wonky face
You dropped your arm
Voyager has them
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Oh my god, I'd never tried tapping this button before.
[ಥ_ಥ] oh gah
What button is it? When I type a comment on mobile Voyager I only see link, bold, italic, and quote buttons. It doesn't seem like I can swipe to find more buttons either.
There's a 3-dot options button next to "quote" that has "Text Faces".
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Not on mine 😭 Because I'm on the ios app maybe?
I’ve got ‘em on the iOS app.
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Ah! I just realized this is happening because I’m using a huge size for text (right below the accessibility sizes). It’s making the UI huge but not letting me swipe to see more options. I didn’t realize it but it was actually cutting off the image upload icon too.
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For some reason emojis just feel out of the place here and reddit. I do use them in private chats and whatnot though
I think my Lemmy client does not support emojis, but it supports Lenny faces. Maybe that's why, Lemmy loves Lenny ʕ ͡° ʖ̯ ͡°ʔ
It's a pain with markdown.
Sync for Lemmy has a menu of them to insert into your comments.
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Same for boost, don't think I've ever used it before though ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
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Huh, didn't notice that button before
Emojis really don't have a use outside of shitpost communities. I very rarely will use them here on Lemmy
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In-group signalling. One of the many microhabits you need to acquire in order to fit in with the local culture and nothing more. As usual, people make up reasons to justify why their cultural proclivities are objectively right but these are without exception completely post-hoc.
We must change them!
Require them to symbolically emote at least once per post/comment.
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People use words to express their feelings rather than emojis.
Emojis are less serious and a comment that uses them extensively is taken much less seriously than a comment without emojis.
Perhaps this impression is due to the fact that young social media users have devalued these images. You may have seen short messages in various communities consisting of many emoticons. Perhaps the sequence of images means something, but is perceived as spam.
I feel like emoticons are in some ways cheating at using words and thus it shows a lack of effort put into your communication. I use them mostly in quicker format messaging like Discord. I don't blame anyone for using a 🤷 or such but I'd like to try to be more eloquent.
While I get what you're saying and I think sometimes emojis can absolutely be overused or used in place of textual clarification, I feel they also serve as an effective substitute for a lack of non-verbal communication. Generally speaking, "what people say" is only half the story, and "how they say it" (the nuances of facial/bodily expressions, tone of voice, etc) is the other half.
When writing narratives, we get away from this by means of, well, narration. "... he said, cheerfully"; "... he replied, with just a twinge of annoyance to his voice"; "she said, while averting her eyes".
In first person communications like social media, we don't really have an effective way to communicate that sort of nuance. We do have action asterisks shudders in horror, shorthand expressions to represent actions like LOL, and emoji 🤷♂️ as potential alternatives, as well as some community-driven linguistic nuance like Reddit's usage of "/s" to indicate sarcasm.
We could also go all old-timey letter writing and say things like "while I find myself hesitant to reply to you in fear that you will consider it an attack, I do find myself with some concerns in regards to your comment and will elaborate below. I hope that you will not take these concerns as dismissive of your opinion in any way, as I simply mean to clarify some doubts and seek your own opinion on my thoughts as presented above." (This might be an example of "overly eloquent" and there is probably a happy medium.)
I find the ever-evolving linguistics of internet communication to be really fascinating, if you can't tell!
Absolutely, and it isn't to say I never use emoji/emoticons but I don't on social media that much. You can convey emotion and vibe with a bit of nuanced typing. This is likely lost on some folks but others seem to be tuned to it, almost like body language. Grammarly actually has a tone mapper built in to tell you what sort of tone you are sending out.
relevant xkcd
along those lines, I have also seen emojis being used as the modern equivalent of determinatives
What if you tried to express your emotional attitude to the person you are talking to? Or try to describe how you feel when you have had a good day.
I don't always do it well in text messages and then I use emoticons to reflect emotion.
Emoji might be the right choice there. Sometimes I'll just send back 🤷 or a gif in text messages or quicker formats but for something like Lemmy or Mastodon, I think a more effortful reply is desired since the point of those services is the conversation.
Its just the group we have. I use basic ones sometimes. But I also come from a time before emoji existed.
I still call them emoticons on occasion
I still have my emoticon copy/paste text file from the ancient times.
I still test out messaging apps by using this fella
I'd be interested to see which ones you have on that file
Edit: Lemmy apparently doesn't like the rabbit's formatting
It should format properly if you use a code block. This is the bunny I always used to use
either escape the backslash or embed the whole thing in a code block
and Markdown insists on breaking anything with a less-than character (considering the preview shows correctly but then you hit “Save”) …
You can escape formatting by adding a backslash in front.
> this is an escaped quote
The rabbit's left ear looks like it should be a backslash (\_/)
Backslash is an escape character used in formatting, so if you want to actually display a backslash you need to use two (\\_/)
Oh the file itself turned out to be garbage because it was a text file. So it was terrible at preserving spacing and all that. I can upload it when I get home if you want nostalgia more than usability lol I probably used it for a month out of stubbornness before just finding a website that hosts emoticons.
Nostalgia. I had a set of kaomoji stored in a text file.
Unfortunately I have made myself a liar. I must have deleted it a while back.
https://emotes.io/ has what you are looking for though.
i prefer to use them in microblogging platforms like mastodon :3
Because you don't have no script to easily add emoticons, like for /kbin? ¯_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯
Missing an arm ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯ Boost escapes it correctly though, no need for kbin
For you: \
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use your words!
They have better taste.
I use a phone and the more complicated emojis are harder to use 🤷
If you're on Android, the emotion/sticker/gif browser in Gboard includes ASCII emoticons at the end! (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧
I don't really feel the need to use them to express myself. I try to use words instead :-)
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Yes that's right it has perspective
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We could invert the question: why do people wherever you're contrasting use them more?
Good question 🤔
And Merry Christmas to all.
Lemmy is a discussion based social media. Smiley are cool for social medias like facebook
The day will come when people from other social networks will go to Lemmy to find something interesting.
God damn the kids really don't know the difference. Anyways i use it less probably because I'm browsing Lemmy on my phone in-between other tasks, but maybe I'll start spicing things up.
(ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧
Maybe because this is (still) the more adult place?
People keep asking this....
Because lemmy users tend to be tech literate millennials or older, who were using the internet before it became a widely popular and used thing.
We remember a time before emojis. And to us, there is art, and more meaning in continuing the old ways of using textual symbols in clever ways to convey an emotion.
Emojis are a cop out, a cheap and easy way to do the same, invented for a mass audience that didnt want to do any thinking or be clever in any kind of way and wanted it all handed to them.
I realize this may sound silly but I will die on this hill: emojis are for children and the technically illiterate, they are an appropriation of a culture spawned by some gen x and mostly millennials when the curious of us forged our own way onto what was at one point in time a frontier of seemingly infinite possibility.
Emoticons are too personal, emotional. Lemmy and Reddit are community oriented
I think one of the biggest reasons for the switch from emoticons to emoji can be seen in this thread, emojis are pretty much universally supported whereas a lot of emoticons break Markdown (specifically anything with a backslash or a less-than sign)
We’re old AF.
You just reminded me of this awesome bot on Reddit called "please respect tables".
There is still a subreddit about this, though it's been abandoned
Please respect tables
It would be fun to have it here too! 😄
о_о The point of this sabreddit is to send each other kaomoji without meaningful text?
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Because.
How much of the current lemmy base are ex-reddit? I remember emoticons being heavily frowned upon there. It may be a cultural hangover from the rexodus peeps.
I thought they hated emoji not emoticons
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A distinction I did not make, good point. Maybe I misunderstand, I thought emojis and emoticons were the same thing.
Or is it an "all emojis are emoticons, but all emoticons are not emojis" kinda situation?
Emoji are specifically these originally from Japan: 😃🤫👋🌐🥥
Emoticons are made from other characters, usually punctjation: :), o_O, ;_; etc
I hate to defer to a random comment because as is well established, Einstein famously said "don't believe everything you read on the internet"... but the dictionary has to be deferred to, and it backs up your comment. I stand corrected, thanks for the info!
I'm not good at this either. For me, any small image that can be added at the end of a text is a emoticon.
I looked up the dictionary definition in a fit of pedantry earlier and they're right, they do refer to distinct different things. The more you know ey!
Emoticon have been used in the west long before emoji. I remember on iPhone 4 you had to enable Japanese keyboard to even access emoji. You could send them to someone and they'd be confused how you made a little picture.
No idea, but if you list social media platforms by use of smilies it would be Instagram > Facebook > YouTube > reddit > Lemmy
There seems to be potential for a correlation with intelligence.
Wow, my brain doubled in size just reading this comment
You should get this checked out. Macrecephaly is a real problem!
And the unfounded snobbery award of the day goes to
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In chats I use emojis very often, but I here I feel like some emojis may not show properly, so I avoid them. Though here I tend to use smiles and such :)
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I'm too old to understand Zoomer hieroglyphics and I'm too young to use them like hashtags and/or punctuation the way Boomers do.
I manly use them in place of physical gestures.🤷♂️
I just find the generic yellow emojis used on most platforms annoying. Forums, Discord servers, or other sites that have custom emojis or older-looking "smilies" are more appealing to me.
Dunno
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Because it offends gen z. They get it from millennial parents and associate it with them.
I'm not sure. I obviously can't speak for all of Gen Z, but I use emoticons all the time in 1:1 chat with my friends. I just don't use them in "public" because most people are put off by seeing :3, and the warm, fuzzy feeling that it conveys doesn't come up that often anyway
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Ooo you have been a bad boy.