MAGA is straight up losing it after Taylor Swift’s Harris endorsement

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MAGA Is Straight Up Losing It After Taylor Swift’s Harris Endorsement
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F you, Taylor Swift!” shouted Megyn Kelly, “and f all of the people who want to see these children have body parts chopped off.”

For those not fluent in Republican crazy-speak, Kelly’s meltdown was triggered by Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Kamala Harris the night before, barely one hour after Trump all but face-planted on the debate stage. Kelly was especially triggered by Swift highlighting her appreciation for vice presidential nominee Tim Walz’s support of LGBTQ+ rights.

Other right-wing commentators, like Ben Shapiro, took another approach: making fun of Swifties. “Note: if you vote for a particular candidate because your favorite singer is doing so, please don’t vote. You are too stupid to vote,” wrote Shapiro on X. Meanwhile, Elon Musk, the richest man on the planet, threatened to impregnate her.

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“F you, Taylor Swift!” shouted Megyn Kelly, “and f all of the people who want to see these children have body parts chopped off.”

Weird

The current Republican platform is largely based on stupid easily disproven lies. I'm convinced our fall to fascism is caused by stupidity as much as it is hatred.

"Doctors are cutting little boys dicks off because they like the color pink!"

"They're performing abortions after birth!"

"Haitians are eating all the cats and dogs!"

"They're putting litter boxes in the school bathrooms!"

There's really only two kinds of Republican: The evil ones who spread these lies intentionally, and the stupid ones who believe this dumb shit.

Hatred is stupidity. Always has been.

Hatred is also taught.

Its sad that kids are in MAGA as well due to this.

Never underestimate how much destruction stupid people with power can cause.

This is why evil rarely succeeds in the long-term: when you have that many self-absorbed fucks attempt to work together, it rarely yields anything useful.

yeah, but it takes a fraction of the time to destroy than to build. They don't need long-term, they can wreak havoc in one term

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The current Republican platform is largely based on stupid easily disproven lies.

It's worth mentioning that this strategy is straight out of the trolling playbook. The overall idea is to get everyone to waste their time arguing nonsense, making it impossible to discuss anything of merit. While the following article applies to internet forums, it's not hard to see how any social media, TV, or radio, can spill over into our day-to-day discourse and have the same effect: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7573649/

In this case, the topic at hand meets multiple criteria for deliberate trolling. IMO, there's little room for doubt that we're being led by the nose and baited to waste valuable pre-election time:

  • Digression - Luring others into off-topic discussions by spamming, partaking in cascades or introducing tangential topics (e.g., as in [16]).
  • (Hypo)criticism - Excessive criticism of others, e.g. on their punctuation while possibly committing the same errors oneself.
  • Antipathy - Creation of a sensitive or antagonistic context through purposeful provocation, in order to manipulate others to produce emotional responses.
  • Endangering - Giving out poor advice under an innocent guise, and others are compelled to respond in order to protect others.
  • Shocking - Posting about taboos or sensitive subjects, such as religion, death or human rights.
  • Aggression - Deliberate and open aggressing of others into retaliating (e.g., by name-calling or foul language).

I would love to see more of the Democrats platform displayed, argued, justified and rationalized, but there's literally no reason to talk about any of that when the other side has less discussion than a headless chicken.

I hope the right can someday see how bad they are for policy in general.

The litter box thing annoys me so much. Like, do you have any idea how quickly that shit would fucking go viral if it were true? Like, every damn kid would post about it online. It's so fucking stupid!

do you have any idea how quickly that shit would fucking go viral if it were true

But it was true! Just not in the way that was claimed: They had these litterboxes in case they had to barricade in the classroom for extended periods of time due to a school-shooter that the police didn’t bother to stop quickly…

So yes, it really is a fucked up story, just in a very different way from what republicans claimed.

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Megyn? How is that supposed to be pronounced?

Actually, this name traces all the way back to the first cavewoman gynecologist. At the time, they named themselves based on their professions. Megyn is short for "me gynecologist".

Remember when NBC hired Kelly in 2017, she gave Putin a platform to spread his propaganda, she got demoted, and then eventually fired for racism? Who could have guessed that she was just another maga conspiracy nut?

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“and f all of the people who want to see these children have body parts chopped off.”

As someone living in a country whey we don't chop off the foreskin of little children, whereas conservative Americans love that chopping procedure, I find this statement slightly amusing.

Not just little children, infants.

Babies. They mutilate the genitals of their babies because they believe their god desires it.

It's called mental illness. These people aren't simply "weird". They're insane, a danger to their children, their communities, and their country.

There's some truth in this, but I think we should be mindful of nuance. Some parents do need to make decisions for medical reasons. Those reasons are often still exaggerated, and many parents aren't making an informed decision. I've had friends that required the procedure after puberty, but I'm pretty sure they've said there was no way they could have known prior to puberty anyway. I don't know anyone that needed it as a baby, but it can happen when obstructions develop in utero.

Circumcision as medical treatment is fine, as long as it's legitimate; though I also have a strong suspicion that most medical circumcision — due to phimosis — is actually due to the sexual shame of religious "cultures", and simply wouldn't be necessary if parents actually washed their babies/infants penises properly (by pulling back the foreskin) and teaching them to do the same. Obviously the foreskin stiffens and fuses shut when it's not stretched for years — no different to any other body part. I remember it took weeks to masturbate because I rarely pulled the skin back, and trying to do so took time to stretch it out. I could have easily ended up with phimosis in slightly different circumstances... I could barely touch my toes 3 months ago; now, after stretching a few times a week, I can stand on my palms.

It's not like a significant number of other ape species experience this disorder. If the foreskin wasn't beneficial then we wouldn't have it. We don't cut our ears off because it's easier to clean the area without them, either.

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But that's how you show God that your baby deserves to be in Heaven!!!

🌭🪓✝️

I didn't know we were doing genital checks at the Pearly Gates, God is a weirdo.

Also, especially since your body remains on earth. Does your soul have genitalia?

No, but your souls takes that piece of soul-foreskin with it and drops it off in a little turn style like a ticket.

That's how god gets it's treats, I read that in the Bible.

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Republicans: Cancel culture is ruining the country!

Also Republicans: You endorsed Harris? Kiss your Republican record sales goodbye!

No no no, you see, when the left does it, it's cancel culture and literally communism. When the right does it, it's voting with your dollar, literally capitalism. Not comparable at all!!

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Which is hilarious since the main source of income for musicians ever since streaming took off is live shows and merch.. albums are a vehicle to drive attendance at concerts, for which Swift is pretty good at packing stadiums full of people. Even if she loses 30% of her listeners, she'll still sell out concerts and total revenue would likely be about the same because those seats will be taken up by other fans who would have otherwise missed out on the sold-out show.

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... Ben Shapiro accusing other people of not being smart enough to vote.....

He should practice what he preaches and not vote, himself.

He should vote, because everyone should vote.

Fuck Ben Shapiro, he's some combination of idiot and willing stooge, but voting only works when everyone gets to vote. Unlike these right-wing fuckwits, I'm not willing to disenfranchise voters just because I perceive them as being less intelligent than me.

EDIT: I am shocked that supporting a fair and equal democracy seems to be at least sort of controversial around here. If you genuinely believe a given category of people should be disallowed from voting, please reconsider your values.

Lol you vote for more dog food available, they vote people to die. Same same.

This is not a "both sides are the same" argument. Only that if you start to discuss who should and should not be allowed to vote, you are no longer creating a democracy. That is a dictatorship with extra steps.

A cunt that is tolerant of Nazis doesn't deserve respect or a vote homie that's reality.

Yes, because telling someone to practice what they preach is disenfranchising them.

C’mon, now.

Voting is his right, it his obligation. If he wanted to show he’s not a total fucking liar and hypocrite…. He should chose to not vote because he’s definitely stupider than the vast majority of swifties.

To be fair, most rocks have enough intelligence to be smarter than him… and they’re inanimate.

Never forget his hypothetical about selling your underwater home. Dude has the intelligence of the fish he thinks would buy it.

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Shapiro is not an idiot, he's arrogant. He believes that when the fascists and alt-right freaks come for every other racial, sexual and religious minority, including his own, they will spare him because he was on their side and he is special

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"I will impregnate her" -Elon Musk

"She will be raped by Venezuelans" -David Rubin

"Children's Genitals!" -Megyn Kelly

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Once again, we see what the debate between Harris and Trump illustrated very clearly: The GOP in its current state is not pursuing any program whatsoever, but merely builds up imaginary enemy stereotypes that they blame for all their problems - without any even halfway factual reasons. Democratic processes are impossible with this tedious kindergarten approach because they are based on factual arguments, cooperation and the willingness to find common ground. I sincerely hope that there are some rational thinking conservatives left who will refuse to vote for this hateful orange moron and his ridiculous henchmen.

Yeah, it's almost as if all their talking points and strategies are fed to them by a hostile foreign power that wants to destabilize its enemy. Weird.

I hate that it'll be taboo to call them stupid in ten years. "Do you remember how stupid you were acting? What's to make me believe you aren't still that stupid"will be frowned upon. But seriously they're behaving, and voting, that fucking stupidly.

I hate their "children's body parts chopped off" bit. Most doctors won't do until they're 18 and even then the number of people who do it is miniscule compared to the overall population or the rest of the LGBT community. Imagine being so uncomfortable in your own skin that you decide that's your best option. Have some ducking compassion, Megyn.

Unless it's circumcision for religious reasons ... then chopping off body parts is A'OK.

These are the same people who, faced with an obviously intersex newborn, would 100% surgically mutilate the baby to fit in a binary ASAP without thinking twice.

It never is and never was about protecting children.

If they didn't want her to voice her opinion they shouldn't have spent a week making fake ai images of her endorsing Trump. They forced her hand; she could either allow her likeness to be appropriated for a political cause she doesn't agree with, or make her true opinion known.

Shes just an uppity women. She should do what I say. -Republicants.

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Is Megyn Kelly really against circumcision now or something?

That must be it, or like medically necessary amputations. It must be one of those things or a delusion she is suffering.

Did I miss the news cycle where Democrats started dismembering children?

You're probably just not consuming the right batshit crazy conservative echo chamber outlet

They are getting harder to find, you know, with all the Russian money drying up

Rupert Murdoch, Elon Musk, and Mark Zuckerberg all seem happy to foster right wing conspiracy incubators. Its not going to stop until at least there is some transparency in their content algorithms or extreme fines for media companies that promote misleading/fake/nonsense information.

I heard recently that tiktok has open sourcing but don't fully understand what that means or if it's true. If it's true, though, it would be notable that it's the only platform that's been targeted to be shut down.

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Leading up to the debate, a whole bunch of new propaganda got pushed. Haitians eating cats in Ohio, Post-birth-abortions, and forced transitions for children, prisoners, and illegal-aliens. Totally normal conspiracy theories based on absolutely nothing

Haitians eating cats in Ohio

They overheard "I'm coming over there to eat that pussy" and got confused because they have no concept of a man doing something for the benefit of a woman.

Post-birth-abortions

I think the cops are handing that, or at the very least making sure no parents go into the school to prevent it from happening.

forced transitions

I got nothing, they're just batshit crazy.

My speculation on the last one is they are (still) salty about the government and military providing transitional care and surgery.

I caught the cat eating thing, and the post-birth abortion thing. I must have been too distracted by the Venezuelan gangs that are supposed to have taken over my city to catch the other stuff.

How do you have any gangs if they're all in jails getting free SRS? How do you even have a city when they were all razed by Dems rioting in 2020? Something is not adding up, either you or the Repub propaganda apparatus is lying.

Well, no one is forcing transitions, but we do and should continue to provide necessary medical care for prisoners. Arguably that care needs improvement in terms of accessibility for citizens and immigrants alike, which I think is where Trump pointed out Harris has truthfully put some work into.

That's what sucks about so many of these claims. Are they based on any truth?

I will say, it's at least a good exercise in critical thinking to have to go claim by claim, as exhausting as it is to so consistently find blatant lies, let alone half-truths.

One of the Republican talking points in this election is that parents are sending their kids to school in the morning and they are coming home with their dicks chopped off in the afternoon because Democrats are performing operations on them to turn them trans. Yes, it is very weird and completely untrue.

Conservatives consider this made-up conspiracy more serious than the actual school shootings that leave kids dead every week.

Wait, free health care in America?!

No, those children would have crippling medical debt for the rest of their lives if conservatives had their way.

LOL. I see the connection now. I knew all of the pieces but I guess it takes a psycho to put it together.

It's depressing that you have to even say that it's untrue.

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At the Minnesota State Fair, Republicans set up a booth where they claimed Tim Waltz did nothing while Minneapolis burned to the ground. Was even depicted on the sign they put on their booth. The Minnesota State Fair takes place in Minneapolis; they're literally in the city that supposedly burned down.

This is the level of cognitive dissonance we're dealing with.

I don’t think it’s about abortion. I think they decided allowing a transgender teen to exist is “dismembering children” even if surgery for trans teens barely ever happens IRL. If they were actually worried about gender affirming surgery for minors, they’d want to ban nose jobs and fake tits too. So, it’s just part of the general trans moral panic amongst conservatives and “Won’t someone please think of the children?” bullshit that always accompanies moral panics even if children aren’t involved.

I’m cis but my understanding is that even trans adults find getting access to gender affirming healthcare is a huge, expensive ordeal. Philosophy Tube had a good video on her experience in the UK and I sincerely doubt it’s any easier in America’s labyrinthian, absurdly expensive non-system. It’s definitely not like parents are swinging by the urgent care to get their 13 year-olds free bottom surgery.

It's hard to keep track. I thought Dems were eating cats but I guess they changed plans.

Eating them? Shit, I have a vet appointment to cancel... and a pile of children's bones to dispose of...

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the richest man in the world "threatened to impregnate her" holy shit what bizarre world we are living in.

I'm guessing he was trying to be funny. He so desperately wants to be seen as funny.

I hope swift just ignores him.

Hire a fucking comedian and hide him in a dungeon then or something. I don't get why people with access to infinite resources don't use them. With this degree of status why not have a social media proof reader? With this kind of money I'd be tempted to hire a dedicated butt wiper for Christ's sake.

What I don't understand is why so many people are pretending the breeding fetish dude is joking.

rich people who spend all their time talking to yes men will never have a connection to what makes things funny

You just know that he has had a T-shirt printed with the “_ all the things!!!” meme, only captioned “Impregnate all the women”, for what he believes to be “epic lulz”

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The party of rapists, child molesters and murderers is mad at Taylor Swift. She must've done something right. 🤔

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“F you, Taylor Swift!” shouted Megyn Kelly, “and f all of the people who want to see these children have body parts chopped off.”

You guys remember the time Donald Trump accused this same woman who is now hysterically defending him of "blood coming out of her wherever" because she had the audacity to ask him about his sexism?

This reminds me of a thought I've been kicking around. All these Republicans who knew beforehand what a monster trump is, and now spend all their time gobbling his stumpy mushroom? They're all examples of a weird variation on Stockholm syndrome. But instead of identifying with their captors on a personal level, they've identified their entire political party with him. They don't think it can exist without him now.

Once he kicks the bucket, psychologists are going to have a field day untangling this mental health mess.

You're confused because your values include truth and integrity. Theirs do not. They care only about white supremacist hierarchy as the foundation for society.

She simply used to think he would not get elected. Now she sees that he drives huge numbers of delusional bigots to vote.

The argument that "you shouldn't vote for someone just because your favorite celebrity endorses them" seemed like a much more credible argument before the 2016 election when the winning candidate essentially won by literally being a celebrity.

Prior to 2016, Trump was probably best known for being the host of a reality TV show, and being a "businessman". Taylor Swift is definitely better known, and you could also make a solid argument that she is a better "businessman" as well.

What about Ronald Reagan?

Yeah, he sucked.

Actually that was Nancy, not Ronald.

They both suck IMO. But yeah, toward the end it was his handlers making the decisions.

I was trying weakly to reference Nancy's rumored penchant for giving head to anyone who asked, but yes - both were warm garbage.

OMG seriously, or was the hyperbole‽ I laugh at imagining Nancy blowing a bunch of people in an attempt to peddle influence.

Iran hostage crisis? Solved with an elderly gumjob.

Reagan was at least governor of California prior to running for president.

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On the flip side, imagine voting for someone because Ben Shapiro is doing so.

Imagine doing or believing anything because of anything that guy said or did. I'm not even sure how anyone can stand listening to him.

I'm often astonished by just how odious and unlikable conservative commentators are and wonder how anyone can seriously watch the people on Fox and people like Trump, Charlie Kirk or Dan Bongino and think "yeah! I like and trust this person!"

"On the one hand this person is utterly detestable, but on the other hand they are reinforcing what I already decided to believe. Hmm..."

I must admit that I don't get, why it's such a big deal, that Taylor Swift supports Harris. But seeing the meltdown of the right wing grifters does put a smile on my face.

She has 284 MILLION followers. And the Swifties are also like a cult. Granted a more sensible one. But people will support her through anything. And many of those supporters are gen z and just entered the voting pool. The GOP does not want a huge influx of voters.

I've seen some graphs / extrapolations where if young voters (18-24) voted at the same rate as older voters (55+), Harris would win by a pretty sizable margin.

That almost never happens, but Swift has a huge influence on young voter turnout.

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I have a good friend that is a Swifty, they are basically another uber fandom with actual irl clout. Apparently she brought over a quarter million potential signups through this.

She used to be a Country Music darling, and a lot of right-wing Country people still feel like they own her like back when they had her as an underage sex symbol.

You don't get it because you have a functioning and logical brain, but the reality is that celebrities are extremely influential. That's how we got Trump in the first place. He had absolutely no political qualifications and yet somehow just went straight to the highest authority in the land.

Not just her following, but there is a history where MAGA had a fantasy that Taylor Swift supported them

Her posting that link got something like 400k people to register to vote. That is not insignificant. I hate the news always discussing celebrity opinions on politics. However, this specific time, something happened that can actually have an impact. So we shall see.

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Celebrities have every right to voice their opinion on national issues.

And, that is not a "zero risk" position.

A recent example is the formerly known: "Dixie Chicks". Research their dilemma.

And in the past, late 1940's, Hollywood had a "Blacklist" which was a very serious shit list which fucked over plenty of people.

Many American celebrities are also citizens with every right to voice their opinion the same as your lawn sign or bumper sticker. Yet, sometimes, it's a really good thing when those celebrities rally their groupies, Swifties, etc.

Like almost always, it boils down to others being jealous of the "power" of other people.

Was anyone on the left that mad when KidRock or Ted Nugent coming out in support of Dump?

No.

In fairness neither kid rock nor ted Nugent are relevant enough to convince any significant number of people to vote.

if they supported child stone and theodore nugget, they were already on board with the republiKlan agenda

Child Stone and Theodore Nugget has made my evening, thank you.

It's kind of disappointed At Kid Rock. Even though he was almost cliche he had some anti-establishment vibes for about 5 minutes.

I read this morning that the Swift endorsement was not choreographed with the Harris/Walz champaign. They didn't know it would happen until it did. Yet, they turned out and advertised a campaign friendship braclet within an hour. That is excellent digital marketing work.

Edited to add. They also sold out of them in an hour

I saw the look on Tim's face as Rachael Maddow received a note on-air and read the tweet in total, live. Their absolute shit-eating grins showed total and genuine surprise. You could hear them internally screaming, "FUCKING JACKPOT!"

As to the bracelet, they knew she would endorse them at some point, I'm sure they had it ready for that eventuality.

Yeah, her war chest is pretty huge so a few thousand bracelets on the assumption Seift would eventually endorse seems pretty reasonable.

The moment the right wing started pumping out AI pictures claiming Swift endorsed Trump, her endorsing Harris became basically inevitable

That's what happens when you have a great campaign staff.

Trump, otoh, sells the same red hat they've been selling for 8 years, plus some ridiculous "outlaw trump" posters

not beating the "weird" allegations

Trump threatened her for her endorsement. Anyone who thinks he has any redeeming qualities is beyond redemption.

Republicans would lose 2/3 off their voter base if they listened to Ben Shapiro. Like how many voters have become Republican because they listened to their favorite radio DJ or podcaster.

Never forget the time Shapiro got angry and confused in a softball interview with British right winger Andrew Neil and stormed out.

I highly recommend skipping to the end if you haven't seen it:

https://youtu.be/6VixqvOcK8E

It's a mystery to me how these people get taken seriously at all.

A lot, actually. Tons of money is being poured into raising up popular propagandists because it works. Russia was caught doing it just recently.

Were it Russia alone, it'd be countered. The reason it doesn't is because there are also Israel, Turkey, Saudi Arabia.

The quote says singers.

Podcasters and radio hosts on the other hand are stellar people with the absolute best opinions and should be listened to and followed like sheep.

Megyn Kelly is nasty ~ Donald Trump

Megyn has that short term GOP memory. These people have no soul.

I half agree with Shapiro. It is stupid to vote for someone because a celebrity or anyone else famous that you like endorses someone.

However, people do, so it does indeed get votes.

It's less stupud to listen to Taylor Swift than it is to Ben Shapiro.

Choose who you listen to wisely. And no, her being a singer has little influence on that decision.

I would agree if she were a vapid pop star. But she's very clearly an intelligent business woman who also has musical talent. There are worse public figures to take cues from.

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We model good decisions based on what people we respect tell us all the time. Maybe Taylor Swift isn't the ideal role model, but she's certainly not the worst one I can think of.

Politics is not something most normal people think a lot about or have coherent views about. I don't think it's all that crazy to think that an important role model could work as a heuristic for figuring out what their own values are.

I disagree. Celebrities are paid for movies, music, tv, ads, etc, and at any time, they can say they only did that one thing you didn't like because someone paid them money. They take a chance by endorsing a candidate because they could potentially lose lots of money, jobs, friends, or more. The type of people that do vote for candidates based on endorsements are also the type of people that don't generally follow politics, but when you talk to them, you'll find they are for the same issues as the candidate.

That endorsement could be the one that made some 18-21 year old go and look up the endorsed candidate. When they look up the candidate, they may not be really interested, but then they may find something that the candidate supports, and that makes them want to vote. They never would have voted if they didn't find that information, and they wouldn't have looked up the information without the endorsement.

Have you ever bought something that you saw an influencer endorse on social media? Have you ever gone to a new place because someone else recommended it? Have you ever found a new friend because one of your friends was friends with them? What about dropping thousands of dollars into a stock because someone said you should? All of these are just other forms of endorsements from people you pay attention and listen to. Maybe someone recommended a show on Netflix that you passed on previously but decided to watch because of the endorsement, and you really loved it?

Don't forget, Shapiro didn't just say you shouldn't base your vote off of an endorsement. He said that people who do should have their rights stripped. What does that mean? Does he want your Google searches to be checked to see when you started looking things up? He also wants to raise the voting age to 21. He wants voters to be tested to even qualify.

Look at what conservatives scream about during elections. Voters where their signature is slightly different, when their name matches a dead person, when purged voters try to vote because they haven't voted in awhile, illegals voting in mass, voting by mail, voting at the wrong location, etc. They're trying to stop people who most likely won't vote for them. They push wild conspiracies, but if you believe their conspiracies, they think you are good to vote. Problems exist on both sides, then again, if two cars caught fire in opposite sides of the same city on the same day and one of them was a Tesla, which one would be all over the news the next day?

The moral here is never let anyone tell you that your inspiration is wrong. Ordinary individuals are inspired to do extraordinary things every day, and all it takes is that spark of inspiration. Now, go out and do something cool or something!

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I'm sure MAGAts are having to do mental jumping jacks from approving of a fake endorsement for Trump to now saying that her endorsement for Harris doesn't really matter and that she's a nobody. The whole thing is dumb either way, but if a pop star's endorsement is what it takes to hold off the fascists for at least 4 more years, then so be it.

It's funny how Taylor Swift mattered when Trump faked her endorsement.

I can't imagine living in such a weird celebrity country.

Very few people give a shit about celebrities here, let alone what they think, let alone what they think about politics. No one would care for who endorsed who, it very much means absolutely nothing.

The vast majority of us dont give two shits about any of this either. It's just 24hour news cycle slop. Anything for the clicks.

Ah, okay. Makes sense.

But I have assumptions about OP now which I think are probably correct.

Of course you don't list where "here" is. I'm willing to bet that not only do they care about celebrities about the same as Americans, but also that many of those celebrities they care about are Americans.

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In battleground states the win/lose margin will quite possibly come down to a few thousand votes, particularly in PA. The endorsement might not change anyone's mind, but to her millions of fans it raises the elections' importance for anyone who doesn't "care about politics". It turns a civic issue into a social group issue, and people care more about the latter. It'll pull people reluctant to go to the polls to show up and vote.

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The number of Taylor Swift fans that planned to vote for trump was probably a very small number anyway

It's not about them. It's about the ones who weren't going to vote at all. Republicans lose when people turn out to vote.

And so help me god if she militarized her base the GOP is fucked. They're playing with fire. I don't think people understand the soft power TS has. These are voting age kids, or kids of people who are voting age.

Yep, we can make them go away by showing up and doing the minimum necessary to keep our democracy functional.

In less than 24 hours nearly 400k Americans registered to vote using the specific link that she provided. That's the number that matters. If they actually go vote that is enormous.

But I'd suspect the number of Taylor Swift fans who weren't going to vote at all was a fair bit larger.

Granted, there's really no consensus on the impact of celebrity endorsements, but if anyone can affect how people vote, I'd wager that the biggest pop star in the country could be the one to do it

Endorsements, sure. But 1/3 million people have registered to vote using Taylor's link. That's going to be significant.

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They are scared of younger swift fans who weren't planning on voting at all.

You're not getting it.

How many of them weren't going to vote? How many will now?

It's not just about winning over undecided voters, you also need to convince apathetic voters and motivate lazy people to actually cast a ballot.

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Look, just try and get it done. Go see what it takes, if it's really as easy as they keep telling you. Take your kid and see how far you can get in trying to surgically transition them. You can always back out at the last second. Don't just take the talking heads' word for it, go see for yourself how far you can get along that process before a medical professional tells you "no."

I concur, from personal experience.

Any gender transition related healthcare - even just hormone therapy - is a long and involved process that requires multiple doctor and therapist visits, even for adults. And you have to be quite determined and strongly advocate for yourself the entire time, or the process will get derailed.

People who claim that gender transition healthcare is "easy" or "sudden" are just making shit up.

No

Yeah, that's what you'll hear, immediately. Nobody anywhere is going to surgically transition a kid.

My father refused my offer on a trip to Portland during the election cycle 6 (4?) years ago.

I stopped talking to my father 4 years ago and I haven't been happier.

I know you LIBTARDS are going to say SOMETHING about School Shootings and Body Parts Falling Off so let me TELL you that she said CHOPPED OFF you Dumb Marxists! We ONLY care if they get CHOPPED off not SHOT off or MASSACRED off!

Why the hate They got the endorsment of quality stars like Kid rock, Kanye, Kevin sorbo, Hulk Hogan, Elon musk,

Al fine gentlemen /s

It's so dumb, she was never ever ever gonna endorse trump, no matter what A.I. generated images say 🤦‍♂️

In 2020, she baked Biden Harris cookies

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Losing what - their minds? They had to trade those for membership.

I love the implying the dems when they renew the office will do horrible things they have for some reason waited to do while they have office. Honestly it annoys me people take the what the canidate says they will do things with anything than a grain of salt when its clear the historical precidence has held. tax cuts for rich, deregulation, wars, outlaw abortion go republican. progressive taxes, corpo regulation and monopoly breakup, exiting wars, bodily autonomy go democrat. lambast fed to zero interest so stock market go burr republican, let fed set rates to keep a inflation at a low but not negative rate democrat. (for any repbulicans who don't understand fed rates obama had them up then trump pushed them down to his term which is why we had the inflation we had which cooled down due to biden allowing for extreme fed action which further makes things bad as you want fed adjustments to be small but that can't happen when a president spends his term pushing for them to be the opposite of where they should be.)

"...these children have body parts chopped off."

From an abortion? That's not how it works, Megyn. That's not how any of this works, you disingenuous dunce.

ETA: Oh, she's referring to trans kids? (Thanks for the clarification Dkarma) That makes a bit more sense. But still utter crap.

She's talking about trans kids. Also a lie.

Republican rhetoric has constantly endangered innocent people and it is about time they start paying for it.

I doubt there was a big overlap of conservative Trump voters and Taylor fans, the ones complaining about her don't matter to her or her fortune in any way

I don't know, there have been Conservatives that gave up on Rage Against the Machine and Green Day for coming out as anti-Trump.

These people do not have logical or consistent world views. They only know they are on "Team MAGA", so they might have loved Taylor Swift and not noticed any inconsistency until another Trumpet tells them we have always been at war with Eureast Asia.

Looks like Megan is on the Miami Diet now. I hope she knows that its a one way ticket to tumortown.

Man, I am interested in politics, but I don't care about pop culture. Now I have to google Taylor Swift (I know the name and I am sure, I'll also know some songs of her, I just don't know the cnnections inbetween).

You don't really need to know anything about her music to get more context for the politics. She's popular and endorsed the candidate that isn't a caricature of the worst aspects of humanity.