"I'm really looking for a guy who can self host a matrix instance"
Then when you meet her you can't the service up. "I swear I've never had this happen before"
"I have 99,99% uptime I swear!"
When you propose it comes with an SLA
Imagine when they find out you run your own media server. Bad boys out there downloading videos without licenses about to pop off on dating sites because no one can afford the "Netflix" part of netflix and chill
That’s because the deal has already been sealed. They typically wanna keep you off the market, not increase your “resale” value. Unless you’re into that kinda thing. Like, cucking or sharing kinda kinks, not human trafficking. Human trafficking isn’t sexy. Unless you’re into that kind of thing. Like, as a fantasy, not as a real thing. Real human trafficking isn’t sexy. Unless you’re into that kinda thing. Like, as in humans stuck in traffic or transforming into cars and being stuck in traffic, not as being sold as a commodity. Unless you’re into that kind of thing.
Reading this as I'm waking up and really questioning if I'm actually awake or not
It kind of reads like the thought process of someone who just woke up, too.
If you are into that kind of thing
Wow really put something in for everyone with that comment.
^what^
I have a friend who’s very attracted to her husband’s woodworking. Mind you he’s a world class artisan for equipment for a shared hobby of theirs, but still, she’s very supportive of his lathe purchases.
Hey if I were married to you I would support your hobbies and interests. I'd want you to be happy.
Lathes are expensive though, so if there expense were to come from our shared account we would need to have a discussion first.
"traveling" yikes.
That is one way to say, you think wealth is attractive.
I have traveled quite a bit and I like it a lot, but it is no hobby. For it to be a hobby, I would have to have a lot more money.
Once or even twice a year, is hardly a hobby.
"I'M NOT DRIVING OFFICER, IM TRAVELLING!"
Gets 'em so wet
sound of breaking window
That explains why there are so many of them. It is for the WAP.
It could also just be women thinking, "I'd like to visit _____ when I'm able, I want my partner to go with me." Working in a passport office, I've met a shocking number of men who have never left the US (or sometimes even the state) by choice. Then their wife or girlfriend wants to go to Mexico or something, and they come in talking about how they're only doing it for her and they'd never travel if it was up to them.
Anyway, I'd consider traveling one of my hobbies even though I can't afford to do it often - plenty of time is spent planning and looking at things to do, so it goes beyond just the few days of the trip.
I think so too.
I've met people who are extremely happy living in their small town life doing small town things, then get angry or confused why anybody would want to go someplace "exotic".
Maybe "travelling as a hobby" as a women's preference with regards to men is at about it being a man's openness and ability to deal with totally different environments, disposable income, time availability and possibly foreign language skills.
I'm one of those people. I've never flown, rarely leave my state. My wife wants to travel, but we haven't yet. I, personally, have no interest in it. Just like sports and most popular movie franchises. I just have no feelings about it at all. It seems like a huge hassle.
Yea same. New places, new people, and trying to figure out where I'm going stress me the fuck out. A vacation is just a whole week of that. No thanks. I want to use my time off to relax. If someone else wants to plan the whole thing and I just follow them around it's fine but I don't want to deal with that shit myself. It's not enjoyable to me at all.
I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with that, it's just not going to be compatible with everyone. I would never date anyone who didn't prioritize travel at least a little, but that's definitely not universal.
You can travel without spending a lot of money, people call it backpacking.
Time off is expensive
It's unclear what countries this poll includes, having minimum paid leave is the law in most of the world. There's also quite a few careers that involve forced time off.
In the US you have just enough time off to be sick a couple of times a year. (If you're lucky)
If you live at home or are technically homeless it doesn't really matter. If you can save up a bit and have a charismatic personality you can go far, especially if you're willing to pick up shitty temporary jobs in places where you go. I had a friend who would do this all the time and periodically return home to work at a reliable job while living with a friend, save up more, then fly off to somewhere for a few months.
"I love camping, I usually do it under bridges and in gutters."
"Fun" fact, this is actually why my mom has no interest in camping as an adult. Her family was homeless a lot when she was a kid and her mom disguised it as a fun extended camping trip. The kids bought it for the most part, because the family really did camp for fun, and they were used to fishing for dinner and things, but she said as she got older, she realized things like the month long trip in November were because they lost their housing.
My wife hates camping. She needs electricity, a toilet, wifi, etc.
I never thought about why until your comment. My wife moved houses every few months as a kid. Maybe 10-15 times total before before college.
Maybe, though that lifestyle is very unconducive to relationships generally.
For the vast majority of you, long travel is required to get to somewhere you can backpack. And the the gear and foodstuffs is expensive also. And judging by the damages to the environment that some inconsiderate people leave these days, I'm not sure that you should be allowed to. (I'm getting sick and tired of picking up garbage and hauling it out of the forest I live in).
"Backpacking" can also mean couch surfing and staying in hostels or on park benches. In the early 2000's, it was a really popular way to travel across Europe (at least among rich white college kids)
Is hostels still a thing for young people?
I wonder if AirBnB destroyed that industry. I saw a "hostel" in my city but it was charging $70 a night. When I was growing up, hostels were like $20-30 a night, cheaper than a motel 6.
Afaik, they're still around, but inflation and popularity has caused the prices to increase a fair bit.
Or be in a religious cult like Mormons. Of course they will send you to a foreign country and confiscate your passport until your 1.5-2 years are over.
Do they really confiscate your passport?!
Holy shit thats what Dubai employers do to keep their servants enslaved!
I remember listening to some pop song and realizing that it was basically "You love me 'cause I'm rich". Do you like trashing hotel rooms, going places you have never been? I don't remember what song it was or the exact lyrics, but I just hated the guy then and there.
That is one way to say, you think wealth is attractive.
Is it not?
Depends.
If they flaunt it with their fancy cars and designer clothes, I think they're gross.
If they look like a hobo but are highly educated about finances... Aaaaay bay bee how you doin? Wink at me, you economist with a 401K who ties her hair up because she hasn't showered in days because she was doing data science. Spit in my mouth, you engineer with a diverse stock portfolio who wears the same hoodie you wore in college because clothes shopping is hard and you want to focus on optimizing your CI pipelines. Choke me, you tenured professor with a mature retirement fund who dedicated their life building physics engines to teach grad students.
There was this study where they asked a theater full of women to rate the attractiveness of men, based on a photo and a profession. Then they changed all the professions (but kept the same photos) and did it again.
The same picture with a higher-paying job was rated significantly higher.
I love being in other countries and meeting new people and learning about their culture. But I fucking haaaaate traveling.
A lot of these hobbies are wealth-adjacent.
Playing an instrument: a good instrument isn't cheap, and music lessons can be pretty expensive.
Woodworking requires a lot of fairly expensive tools, and a space to do it. You can't really have woodworking as a hobby if you live in a small studio apartment. You basically need a house, either one with a basement, a shed or a garage.
Gardening: requires a garden, something you're unlikely to have unless you have your own house.
Photography: I don't know anybody who is into photography who hasn't sunk a lot of money into the hobby. There's the cameras, the lenses, and even the software these days.
Astronomy: see above.
Hiking: not expensive on its own, but in North America it means being able to drive to a wilderness spot outside the city, so you pretty much require your own car.
Archery and blacksmithing: again, requires a specialized space
Now, I know that there are cheap options for a lot of these. A musician could be someone drumming on an upside-down pail. Someone who only has access to a hotplate could still experiment with food. Woodworking could be just whittling sticks found in the park. Gardening could just be tending to a small houseplant. But, are these the version of the hobbies the women are picturing when they're imagining a potential mate doing the activity? Probably not.
Meanwhile, a lot of the stuff at the bottom of the list are very cheap hobbies. Like being influenced by the "Manosphere" just requires access to social media, same with porn and "arguing online".
Honestly, it looks to me like if you sorted the list by "dollars per hour someone invested in that hobby is likely to spend" you'd get many of the same things at the top and many of the same ones at the bottom. Some of the few exceptions are writing and reading, which can be pretty cheap hobbies, but are still apparently very attractive.
As someone who does hit the gym, in my experience the majority of people you're impressing with your physique are men. Sure I'd say most women like it if you have it (assuming you aren't too big), but generalising that it's the main attraction would be a mistake.
anyone who thinks the answer isn’t “hit the gym” is coping.
I'd put "hit the dermatologist" above it. Plenty of girls go for the skinny or husky builds. But blemishes are a universal turn off
The benefits of hitting the gym are much more than just getting swole. It increases self-confidence, helps to improve self-image, etc, which are all way more important to getting laid than any hobby you could have.
I only know one guy who is into blacksmithing and - being a nerd myself, I saw this with kindness - but this dude is a super nerd. He's also one of the scrawniest dudes I know. I've heard him tell women that he's into blacksmithing before and it definitely does not have the desired effect that this chart would imply.
You always have to consider Rule #1 when taking these things into account.
I've met a TON of blacksmiths and they usually just look like normal guys but slightly more buff, often overweight. The machinery does most of the work.
I can not fathom how blacksmithing is LOWER on the list than reading. "The dude with the hammer looks nice, but that other one over there is sitting on a sofa for HOURS on end"
Maybe because reading is a sign of being intelligent/cultured in people's mind, and people on average value that slightly more than physical fitness
Reading demonstrates culturing, education, pursuit of knowledge, and willingness for good conversation. It’s also a hobby that can be practiced together (my wife and I have even devised a technique for how to best read books together)
Blacksmithing is one of the few hobbies that a guy probably can’t teach his girlfriend because women usually use a different technique to make up for strength differences. It’s hot for sure, but it’s hot in a “I’m going to watch you but it’s expensive in time and money, and I may wind up stuck selling at ren faires forever” way as opposed to a “even when we’re old we’ll still be discussing literature” way
I'm a woman, I can definitely learn to smith, and have done it a few times (I do reenactment, there's basically guaranteed to be a few blacksmithsin every friend group). I definitely couldn't do it for a living, but as an occasional hobby, sure.
And I haven't met a guy into smithing who didn't also like a fit partner, so hey.
It’s hot for sure,
Hehe
Oh I’m not disagreeing that we can learn. I’d just heard we tend to use a different technique than men, but I’ve never tried and none of my friends that are into sca are smiths so I was never taught otherwise.
Smithing is a hobby I’d love to take up if I had a lot of time, money, and trust from my wife that I won’t hurt myself
Blacksmithing is one of the few hobbies that a guy probably can’t teach his girlfriend because women usually use a different technique to make up for strength differences.
Me, a woman who tried blacksmithing before: Don't use spring steel or other metals that are hard to manipulate/hammer into shape when starting off. Don't start with a sword, start with bending and twisting a nail into... whatever. If they like the hobby they'll stick to it and the muscle will build over time. And if it doesn't: power tools.
Good to know, I’m a woman who’d apparently been misinformed but it is one of those things I’ve always wanted to try, but it’s not an ADHD “pick up every hobby” friendly one
but it’s not an ADHD “pick up every hobby” friendly one
That's true. I was in luck and there was a blacksmith in town who opens his workshop to kids on occasion or travels to job conventions and brought his tools with him. Maybe there are comparable activities/ offers near you, which I can highly recommend. Not only will you not have to worry about tools and materials, most importantly there will be a "teacher" around.
If you find something and decide to check it out, have fun! :)
It’s the first one isn’t it?
Lol, no. First person reads one chapter than we take turns reading two and passing the book. It keeps us excited and lets us talk about it as we go without major spoilers
I had 10/15 of these when I was single, and I was single for a very long time. That is how I had the time to learn all these hobbies/skills.
Right? Just the other day I was thinking about how many hobbies I dropped once I started seriously dating, and then later how many more when I had kids.
My guitar hasn't been touched in years. My books have gone unread. My 3D printer is getting a workout making organizational tools and little toys for the kids though lol
If you see my kayak and fishing poles tell them I miss them and I hope I get to spend more time with them when my son is a few years older.
Judging by what I see on dating sites, fishing is near the bottom of the list. So many women's profiles say something like "I don't want to see a picture of you holding a fish"
I wonder if it is fishing itself that they don't like, or if it is the prevalence of fishing photos on dating sites. I know that a lot of guys post fishing photos on their profiles (probably because most men don't take many photos of themselves but will take photos with a nice catch), so maybe it just seems unoriginal or low effort. I'm honestly not sure, but my only point is that it may not be the hobby itself.
Agreed, I really don't think it's the fishing itself.
Half the problem on any dating site is the classic: 1. Be attractive 2. Don't be unattractive.
If the dude is holding a fish but looks like Chris Evans, she will probably still be interested.
On top of that, dudes holding the fish will overwhelmingly tend to look like the wrap around sunglasses wearing, goatee having, overweight, Trump voting cliche. Women probably build an association to not being compatible with dudes who love fishing after enough times of seeing that and connecting these dots.
I dunno, I know plenty who fish as part of a general interest in outdoorsy stuff and their actually in pretty decent shape.
I think part of the fishing issue is that I don't know so many women who actually have as much interest in such as guys, but I do know a lot of guys who don't do have a lot of interests outside of hunting, fishing, and camping.
Cool if you're into that, but continual weekend trips involving tramping through damp bush to shoot and then skin Bambi, tenting in a mosquito swarm, and hours in a boat plus gutting fish isn't exactly great dating for many (even if the guy did look like Chris Evans).
I assumed it was a combination of "it's really common" and "fish are gross" but I don't look at men's profiles and don't fish so I may be way off
It’s that men don’t take a lot of pictures of themselves. Then they refuse to take any specifically for their dating profiles. Taking pictures specifically for a dating profile would show that they actually care about finding a person they would do other things specifically for.
Taking pictures specifically for a dating profile would show that they actually care about finding a person they would do other things specifically for.
This is a dead giveaway that you've never asked men why they don't take and share pictures of themselves. Most men in the anglosphere consider it vain and self-destructive to obsess over their looks. You can also see it in the way they buy clothes ("I'll take 5 pairs of the same pants, thanks"), the way they cut their hair ("just take an inch off and even it out"), and the way they present themselves, often with as few accessories and adornments as possible. Those they do have are utilitarian or deeply personal.
I mean yea, there's no point in faking all that (having fancy hair, fancy pants) to have a relationship that's based on lies and that will crumble the instant you show your true self
that's exactly the point. taking a picture won't kill you, and it sets you apart from all of the other men who are so stubborn that they refuse
This is what's wrong with the culture wars. You know why most men don't have any pictures of themselves, or if they do it's of them doing something else? That's the only time people take pictures of them. Most men literally don't have someone that they can just ask to take a picture of them. That coupled with the generally terrible body image issues most men have means taking dating profile photos is intimidating, better just to flick through the ten or so photos you already have and pick a couple.
I would bet the vast majority of men posting pictures of themselves holding fish would love decent photos just of them but have no idea how to do it themselves or have anyone to ask.
It’s that men don’t take a lot of pictures of themselves.
I can't speak for all men but I have a complete inability to look even remotely normal if I know a picture is being taken of me. I try to take profile pics and they all wind up awful and that's not just my view. I showed my friend just to make sure it wasn't just poor self image talking and they reacted like I was showing off a broken bone. I think the only way I'm going to get workable dating profile pics is if I have a friend take pictures of me without me noticing like I'm some sort of cryptid and they'retrying to capture proof.
Unfortunately, the fact that they don’t take many pictures of themselves can be really obvious. I try not to turn a guy down because of a bad profile picture, because I know there’s a technique to it and that requires practice.
At the same time, we’re in a digital era - you can take 100 pictures and only upload your favorite one. There’s no reason for an average guy’s profile picture to resemble a mugshot.
We keep telling you that you gotta stop winking when you tell people you play the mouth harp.
I read, write, cook, paint, swim, travel, and hike, and last gardening. I should be rolling in it. But my wife finds me sexy so I got that going for me.
I think this is from a survey, so keep in mind that its people reading and answering questions. Some number of people always interpret it a different way or misread.
A lot of cryptobros claim to have gotten rich, or seem likely to be flashing their money around. If someone is throwing money around, why not be somewhere you can catch some
How can reading be no 1 most attractive and comic books are on the unattractive side of the list?
I think it's collecting vs reading. I'm a lady and read comics, well graphic novels, I don't buy the individual issues. Half my bookshelf is graphic novels trade paperbacks. But I do not collect, trade, sell, I don't think of them like that, they are for reading and enjoying.
Collecting I can see as an unattractive trait because it's too close to hoarding.
Whew that was a close one. I started reading comics again a few years ago and only have been getting TPB or HCs. Who has space for boxes of singles?
Manosphere is (to my understanding) Andrew Tate, Joe Rogan, etc. Basically content that promotes men acting like Neanderthals. Why any percentage of women found that attractive is beyond my comprehension.
Are you sure it’s not the part of a car engine collecting exhaust from all cylinders into a smaller number of pipes? Because I can use my ignorance of that and play up my environmental credentials as owning an EV
No, no, you're thinking of a manifold. A manosphere is an orb that keeps track of how much spellcasting energy you have left, next to your healthsphere.
If I wasn't already partnered this list would bother me
They just hate when men have fun >:(
Ok, but most of those shouldn't even be considered hobbies. Like poker can be a hobby but if your hobby is just "gambling" then you probably have an issue. I guess your hobby could be porn if you're in the kink scene and into making porn or something, but while watching porn is ok, if you consider watching porn a hobby then you may have an issue.
I'd like to add drinking to that. If your hobby is drinking, and you drink several times a week, you might have an issue.
Arguing Online: Women are just not ready for Skankhunt42
Cosplay: Yeah I bet it's equally least attractive the other way around lmao
I'd make both a pretty great, and kinda shitty male..
To be fair, I enjoy both these things but I don't know that I would classify them as hobbies, more as something I do to wind down. I can see video games going into hobby or even profession territory but THC is just a medicine for me. A hobby is something that needs to challenge me, in which I learn things and get better at it.
Tl;dr: any interest is interesting and attractive. In particular if it can be done without annoying your partner and shows your ability to think independently. If it produces something useful that's cool, too.
Interested people are interesting.
When does cooking stop counting as a basic day to day survival thing and start counting as a hobby?
when you worry about “plating”
I placed the thing in a plate. It's plated now.
But yeah, I get your point.
The difference between "cooking" and "hobby cooking" :
When you worry about the brand of the olive oil you use and the cost, (over $100 per knife), of your kitchen knives. And your stove is a $4000 induction model with 2 ovens.
Source: My one Son-in-law. But the son-of-a-bitch CAN really cook!
Jokes on you, my knife cost me $40 in steel, wood, brass, and sanding belts because I make my OWN knives for my cooking.
You know, I think I might just have two hobbies and one saved me money on the other....
What about the cost of the grinder, HT furnace, drill and drill bits, and anvil and hammers? Are you really sure you saved any money? /jk
Keep banging them out!
Rule number 1: never talk about the cost of tools.
I have two Kitchenaid mixers, and all my specialty tools. Cooking and baking can definitely be a hobby. We have the meals to survive. Then we have the shit I make that tskes a list of ingredients a mile long and all day to accomplish. But goddamm they are some great food.
That brings up an interesting thought.
Am I a cooking enthusiast because I spend time hunting/fishing/foraging wild ingredients? Many of my neighbors do some foraging and hunt and fish also. (I live on a lake in the middle of a very large forest). Or does the fact I made 10lbs of home smoked Canadian bacon in my own smoker this fall make me a cooking enthusiast? Maybe the breads I sometimes bake? Or the hand harvested and then parched over a wood fire wild rice I traded some of my bacon for from my one neighbor?
Am I a cooking hobbyist? Or am I just cooking to survive? Where is the line drawn?
There are a surprising amount of old kids that can't even boil water for pasta. No one looking to date wants to date an old kid they need to take care of. (Some people do, but burnout is real)
In my experience most adults can boil pasta.
... And boil it.... And boil it..... And DEAR GOD TAKE IT OFF THE STOVE AND DRAIN IT BEFORE IT BECOMES MUSH!
When you start to have to worry about them finding out you've out-pizzad the hut.
Cooking qs a Hobby is not throwing together a Quick meal, but actually making an effort to cook. I.e. trying new things, cooking homemade pizza or even a roast.
"throwing together a quick meal" should have it's own word.
"cooking" to me implies you're working on something worth the time it takes, something you want to put effort into.
But when I just got home, nothing is easy to make and I have to throw something quick together, it doesn't feel like really cooking to me. Like im half assing it, it should have a half-assed name.
Exactly, I am always looking for new and exciting things to try. Also subscribe to shit ton of cooking channels on YouTube, and blogs. Also subscribe to a magazine subscription which I was exited that I could still do that. Also have a ton of cook books and always looking for more.
When you are making everything from scratch, cooking becomes a hobby. You can make tacos and buy a salsa from the store and make some good tacos, but when you are making the salsa and thinking that you should add just a bit more of something, you are in hobby territory.
Smoking meats is a hobby. To get dinner ready, you start at 3am and tend the firebox all day. You try different rubs, woods, and techniques to make the product of your craft the best it can be.
Making pizza from scratch is a hobby. You make may make dozens of pizzas to just get the sauce, dough, or crust right.
Following a recipe to make something is not a hobby unless it is just a starting point in something you wish to refine and make your own.
I agree with all but the last part.
Following a recipe can absolutely be a hobby. You can take a lot of enjoyment out of it, and it's even useful.
I wouldn't say it's an art, but it's definitely a hobby.
Okay, this meme actually doesn't contain Saddam Hussein. I know it's a shock, you'd better sit down. Actually lie down. Lower. Lower. Keep going. There he is.
I’m not into guys but as a woman I’m surprised blacksmithing isn’t higher. How am I supposed to be your knight in shining armor if you can’t make me some shining armor?
It's going to be boob armor and just leather straps to attach it over a bikini.
Jokes on you I’m down to model that sort of thing for women
I've forged everything from aluminum to Waspaloy, from handheld to car-sized.
Unfortunately, I used an industrial press and lots of math. Not sexy. What respondents really mean is hipsters with an anvil. Then you're wearing an apron with no shirt, sweating, and smashing something hard and repeatedly.
Unironically, most of the women I've spoken too have found it attractive when I bring up 3dPrinting. It's an active and interesting hobby, and tangible & crafty enough not to be too "nerdy" or whatever. Perfect middle ground, women love it.
They probably just didn't think of it or it wasn't on the poll.
plasticsmithing!
It's weird that mechanical keyboard isn't on the list
How are keyboards a hobby?
What's your hobby?
Smartphones.
NO
If you haven't fallen down the keyboard rabbit hole then you don't know just how far it goes...
It very much can be a hobby costing thousands of dollars and resulting in several keyboard projects.
For your own sanity and wallet, it is best that you do not investigate further.
Is there a source for this graph? Would like to read the rest of it
So, lots of Linux fans should be fairly attractive. Like we read (the docs), know a few languages (at least bash), occasionally write scripts, travel (between distros), and archers became a huge meme 🙃
But you annoy users with unreliability and difficulty to repair and time to implement. UX is important. You can't have home improvement work sites lingering.
Seriously, has no one considered/been on the wrong side of the PAF (partner approval factor) curve?
"Nah, Babe, it's just a hobby of mine. It's nothing to worry about."
My favorite comment of 2024.
The musical instrument thing is transitory and depends entirely on the instrument.
Pre-relationship; in a popular band playing a more traditional instrument like guitar with a bunch of also attractive people (or at least part of a cool local scene) = hot
In a relationship and/or solo bedroom producing any kind of electronic music and/or buying lots of synthesizers, drum machines or grooveboxes = not hot
Also note how low "clubbing" is on the least attractive list, so no, DJs and electronic musicians who perform live don't get a pass
If you have a banjo, it's straight up unattractive.
Source : I have a banjo.
seriously? I've known several women that fucking love banjo. I would say I've heard more women talk about how cool banjo playing is compared to actual guitars (then again I think it's just a known thing with guitars that doesn't need to be brought up). It might also depend on where you live I suppose. Roll into an Appalachian town stringing a banjo and you'll be the pied piper of the mountain women.
Getting mad while listening to right wing psychopaths on the TV and Radio is a major hobby.
Oh boy, cosplayers and DnD players got the shaft with that one.
Which is definitely strange. Or maybe I know a lot of strange women. Which is not unlikely now that I think about it. We should all be a little strange tbh
No one should undertake hobbies because they are attractive to someone else. Unless you want to join groups where you can meet people you’re attracted to, then the activity is just an excuse to mingle. But you are more likely to find a hobby rewarding if you are genuinely interested in it, no matter what others think.
Does growing cannabis count as gardening and what about painting figures?
Strangely enough, reading RPG and skirmish game rulebooks doesn't seem to fit that bill.
Also, 3D printers, get your painting skills ready and paint the stuff you print. Easy peasy lemon squeezy
There are a lot of girls who enjoy role playing games, both digital and traditional.
The key to not blowing it with them, is don't be a stereotype.
"Don't be the reason why there are so few women in this field" is good advice for a great many hobbies and jobs
correct. like how reading comic strips and cereal boxes isnt either.
I beg to argue that being able to 3d model the figures and printing your own original creations is far more attractive than downloading a file aomeone else made and printing that.
Release the full list.
I want to see the red flag hobbies
Cruising glory holes, going to trump rallies, watching sports, hunting
Read this too fast and thought it said most attractive male Hobbits and I was really intrigued
Sad beans
That Reading Baggins, he's so hot right now 🔥
I think this is cool. Many of these are accessible and cheap. Most of these are "do you get out of the house and spend time on something" which is obvious. Looks like most hobbies are attractive, like even anime and cosplay have 1 out of 4 women who is into that and finds it attractive.
I also love the huge correlation between the top 15 and what men think is the top 15, the main difference is that men didn't think hobbies were attractive enough.
I'd love to see the reversed list for what men think are attractive hobbies for a woman!
I'd also like to see that list. I'd also like to see how hobby preference lines up with what hobbies the person with that preference has themselves.
I've read manual for my new 3D printer but it was in a foreign language so I had to cook up a way to understand it, luckily I travel a lot so learning languages is not that difficult for me. I hope that this writing paints good enough of a picture on how it went. I forged up some way to accelerate my learning process so that I could get trough it swift like an arrow. There certainly were some steep inclines which I had to overcome but in the end it all went swimmingly. The only issue was that I could not muster any courage to approach my crush. I just stood there like a stump and stared at her eyes that glistened like stars. In the end it turned out she was a hoe so I dodged a bullet.
They probably just didn't ask about RTLSDR, otherwise it would be quite prominent, I'm sure.
RTLSDR feeding into Home Assistant. That's the money shot.
"Yeah girl, my bathroom lights come on automatically when you walk in. I've even set them to 30% brightness.... After bedtime."
If only my wife truly appreciated me lol
I think my wife was mildly amused by it at first (I was playing with X10 automation long before she came into the picture), but quickly started to like it because it meant that we always came home to the lights on, stuff like that.
And there's one button to shut off the outside lights and "evening" lights in the house when we're going to bed.
Can't recommend enough. A fantastic sport to pick up for after work if you're working in IT or so, clears your mind, good for the shoulders and the back, and calms you down.
The archers?
I don't do it, but I'd like to. The few times I tried it I quite enjoyed it, it's just hard to find a place near me where I can practice archery. It's quite fun, I think.
Let's see: I love reading, I am learning French, I paint, I write, I enjoy a bit o astronomy, I am an archer, and I have learned how to blacksmith.
Yeah this is just a list of activities with no correlation to attractiveness whatsoever
Edit: let me be clear, I've learned to blacksmith the cheating way with propane or natural gas AND the good old fashioned hand cranked coal fired away meant to coat your lungs with soot like a real man. And make sure you bring the borax cause we gonna do some welds
Assuming your my brother, the answer is you're ugly
I mean, I'm apparently good enough to at least have one kid, so I got that going for me. Wasn't an accident or anything either.
But I at least have a well paying job so I got that going for me, which is nice.
Plus, if generalize all women to be like my ex, I don't want to date again. So being ugly ain't all bad
All the nerd hobbies are at the bottom of the list scoring negatives. Linux, video games, Warhammer, D&D and other, etc. this is why despite playing a music instrument, I couldn't get laid.
Eh, I find a lot of people the attraction is towards the person themselves and that makes them more interested in their hobbies anyway. Like if someone is into you, they'll probably try to take an interest in Warhammer or whatever because you're into it.
Of course, this is a reply to a shitpost :D
"Attractive" hobbies are what can put you in a spotlight and get someone you have never met to pick and interest in you.
BTW, playing guitar definitely helped me get laid, and once that was done, it was a piece of cake to convert them to Linux !
So a foreign manga reader that likes to work their wood whilst drawing furry pics from said manga, and travels to cons to display subsequent art - is the most irresistible person to women?
(Should probably think about doing some public garden porn photography tbh)
That does make sense.
Also fails to mention mastery of nunchucks?
That's because I hog all the printing time.
Also, psa 4 men, if you just do cooking you'll be swimming.
DMing for D&D isn’t here? Damn it.
Source from @douchebagmcswag@lemmy.dbzer0
Edit: I think this survey is problematic for a number of reasons, so I hope no one takes it too seriously. I'm one of the women who'd rather her boyfriend smoked pot instead of getting drunk, and would rather play games (tabletop or video) than go to the movies.
Expect /r/3dprintingincels (general place for incels that do 3D printing) and /r/dark3dprinting (3D printing nazi memoribalia) going live.
It's a shame being attractive is the most important thing about being attractive lol
I'm into cooking, astronomy, photography (astrophotography), and hiking. Used online dating (listed all those things) for almost 10 years and went on something like 7 dates. Still single lol I just gave up about a year ago
I have a few in that list too and yeah, online dating is really rough. I've had way more success meeting people IRL. Now that I'm a proper adult though, my hobbies don't really expose me to meeting new people and that's where it gets extra hard. Still haven't found a solution to get me out into public to meet people, friends or dating.
Online dating is the most damaging and predatory thing for man. I think at this point research shows quite clearly that is very detrimental for men's mental health
Essentially just be a renaissance man. It's much easier to do when you're younger. I could've ticked off over half the list 10 years ago, but now it's just reading, cooking and writing. I don't have the time or energy for much outside of work these days.
But I only got into woodworking after I met my husband!
3D printing is just a tooI? blacksmithing? 3D print a 'lost-wax' plastic mould. Gardening? making some custom very specific mounts or drip ends.
You don't put on a hobby list 'wielding a brush'. It's what you do with it;
3D printing is not, but astronomy is? Is that even a hobby?
Astronomy is one of those things that people think they like until they find out it's mostly math, physics, and chemistry, and looking at cool pictures of space is not directly involved.
source: astronomy minor. I liked it but being able to discuss the various types of variable starts and plot them in a Hertzsprung–Russell diagram is not going to win me any dates.
Isn't this one of those fake lists to rage bait people?
I do photography, archery and 3d printing.
Photography seems to only invite critique, archery tends to be a short subkect of conversation but 3d printing usually leads to the most questions and takes up a larger part of the conversation.
When i played bass, no one really showed any interest other than one friends who caught me playing a small part of something i was figuring out how to follow it up and wanted to sample it. Which eventually led to nothing.
I designed a silencer for airsoft in fusion360 and already sold 10, a friend asked me to print a spitfire and i eventually summoned up the idea to make some spitfire exhausts he could mount on his spitfire themed mini cooper, my archery club has these plastic stars that tend to be used on the carnival for air guns so i designed some custom ones with their logo "just because". I also printed some trophy's which i still have to give out.
Once you get a reliable 3d printer and learn the software well enough, it is an amazing hobby.
The wife paints miniatures (think warhammer for example) and she needs plinths for her competition models. So i shit out a custom plinth within an hour including print time. It's so awesome and after 5 years i'm still amazed when i get to hold something that was nothing more than a digital design a mere hour before, i have a mini factory inside my house that only produces what i tell it to...it's absolutely insane.
I can confirm that after a thousand times of don't it, cooking is no longer getting me any
What do you mean Linux is not in the list?
It's there right at number one, reading. Nobody reads more wikis or man pages than a Linux enjoyer.
man touchHuman contact?
Ewww, no.
Humans? Disgusting.
Furries? OwO!
date; wine; cd ~; talk; touch; unzip; touch; strip; gasp; finger; gasp; mount; fsck; nice; more; yes; gasp; man paste; eject; gasp; umount; make clean; sleepArt 👌
"I'm really looking for a guy who can self host a matrix instance"
Then when you meet her you can't the service up. "I swear I've never had this happen before"
"I have 99,99% uptime I swear!"
When you propose it comes with an SLA
Imagine when they find out you run your own media server. Bad boys out there downloading videos without licenses about to pop off on dating sites because no one can afford the "Netflix" part of netflix and chill
That usually counts towards having enough money for half of the hobbies listed.
Woodworking 94%. Right.
Try ordering a new lathe after you’re married.
That’s because the deal has already been sealed. They typically wanna keep you off the market, not increase your “resale” value. Unless you’re into that kinda thing. Like, cucking or sharing kinda kinks, not human trafficking. Human trafficking isn’t sexy. Unless you’re into that kind of thing. Like, as a fantasy, not as a real thing. Real human trafficking isn’t sexy. Unless you’re into that kinda thing. Like, as in humans stuck in traffic or transforming into cars and being stuck in traffic, not as being sold as a commodity. Unless you’re into that kind of thing.
Reading this as I'm waking up and really questioning if I'm actually awake or not
It kind of reads like the thought process of someone who just woke up, too.
If you are into that kind of thing
Wow really put something in for everyone with that comment.
^what^
I have a friend who’s very attracted to her husband’s woodworking. Mind you he’s a world class artisan for equipment for a shared hobby of theirs, but still, she’s very supportive of his lathe purchases.
Hey if I were married to you I would support your hobbies and interests. I'd want you to be happy.
Lathes are expensive though, so if there expense were to come from our shared account we would need to have a discussion first.
"traveling" yikes.
That is one way to say, you think wealth is attractive.
I have traveled quite a bit and I like it a lot, but it is no hobby. For it to be a hobby, I would have to have a lot more money.
Once or even twice a year, is hardly a hobby.
"I'M NOT DRIVING OFFICER, IM TRAVELLING!"
Gets 'em so wet
sound of breaking window
That explains why there are so many of them. It is for the WAP.
It could also just be women thinking, "I'd like to visit _____ when I'm able, I want my partner to go with me." Working in a passport office, I've met a shocking number of men who have never left the US (or sometimes even the state) by choice. Then their wife or girlfriend wants to go to Mexico or something, and they come in talking about how they're only doing it for her and they'd never travel if it was up to them.
Anyway, I'd consider traveling one of my hobbies even though I can't afford to do it often - plenty of time is spent planning and looking at things to do, so it goes beyond just the few days of the trip.
I think so too.
I've met people who are extremely happy living in their small town life doing small town things, then get angry or confused why anybody would want to go someplace "exotic".
Maybe "travelling as a hobby" as a women's preference with regards to men is at about it being a man's openness and ability to deal with totally different environments, disposable income, time availability and possibly foreign language skills.
I'm one of those people. I've never flown, rarely leave my state. My wife wants to travel, but we haven't yet. I, personally, have no interest in it. Just like sports and most popular movie franchises. I just have no feelings about it at all. It seems like a huge hassle.
Yea same. New places, new people, and trying to figure out where I'm going stress me the fuck out. A vacation is just a whole week of that. No thanks. I want to use my time off to relax. If someone else wants to plan the whole thing and I just follow them around it's fine but I don't want to deal with that shit myself. It's not enjoyable to me at all.
I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with that, it's just not going to be compatible with everyone. I would never date anyone who didn't prioritize travel at least a little, but that's definitely not universal.
You can travel without spending a lot of money, people call it backpacking.
Time off is expensive
It's unclear what countries this poll includes, having minimum paid leave is the law in most of the world. There's also quite a few careers that involve forced time off.
In the US you have just enough time off to be sick a couple of times a year. (If you're lucky)
College educated US women iirc. I found the source at some point
If you live at home or are technically homeless it doesn't really matter. If you can save up a bit and have a charismatic personality you can go far, especially if you're willing to pick up shitty temporary jobs in places where you go. I had a friend who would do this all the time and periodically return home to work at a reliable job while living with a friend, save up more, then fly off to somewhere for a few months.
"I love camping, I usually do it under bridges and in gutters."
"Fun" fact, this is actually why my mom has no interest in camping as an adult. Her family was homeless a lot when she was a kid and her mom disguised it as a fun extended camping trip. The kids bought it for the most part, because the family really did camp for fun, and they were used to fishing for dinner and things, but she said as she got older, she realized things like the month long trip in November were because they lost their housing.
My wife hates camping. She needs electricity, a toilet, wifi, etc.
I never thought about why until your comment. My wife moved houses every few months as a kid. Maybe 10-15 times total before before college.
Maybe, though that lifestyle is very unconducive to relationships generally.
For the vast majority of you, long travel is required to get to somewhere you can backpack. And the the gear and foodstuffs is expensive also. And judging by the damages to the environment that some inconsiderate people leave these days, I'm not sure that you should be allowed to. (I'm getting sick and tired of picking up garbage and hauling it out of the forest I live in).
"Backpacking" can also mean couch surfing and staying in hostels or on park benches. In the early 2000's, it was a really popular way to travel across Europe (at least among rich white college kids)
Is hostels still a thing for young people?
I wonder if AirBnB destroyed that industry. I saw a "hostel" in my city but it was charging $70 a night. When I was growing up, hostels were like $20-30 a night, cheaper than a motel 6.
Afaik, they're still around, but inflation and popularity has caused the prices to increase a fair bit.
Or be in a religious cult like Mormons. Of course they will send you to a foreign country and confiscate your passport until your 1.5-2 years are over.
Do they really confiscate your passport?!
Holy shit thats what Dubai employers do to keep their servants enslaved!
I remember listening to some pop song and realizing that it was basically "You love me 'cause I'm rich". Do you like trashing hotel rooms, going places you have never been? I don't remember what song it was or the exact lyrics, but I just hated the guy then and there.
Is it not?
Depends.
If they flaunt it with their fancy cars and designer clothes, I think they're gross.
If they look like a hobo but are highly educated about finances... Aaaaay bay bee how you doin? Wink at me, you economist with a 401K who ties her hair up because she hasn't showered in days because she was doing data science. Spit in my mouth, you engineer with a diverse stock portfolio who wears the same hoodie you wore in college because clothes shopping is hard and you want to focus on optimizing your CI pipelines. Choke me, you tenured professor with a mature retirement fund who dedicated their life building physics engines to teach grad students.
There was this study where they asked a theater full of women to rate the attractiveness of men, based on a photo and a profession. Then they changed all the professions (but kept the same photos) and did it again.
The same picture with a higher-paying job was rated significantly higher.
I love being in other countries and meeting new people and learning about their culture. But I fucking haaaaate traveling.
A lot of these hobbies are wealth-adjacent.
Playing an instrument: a good instrument isn't cheap, and music lessons can be pretty expensive.
Woodworking requires a lot of fairly expensive tools, and a space to do it. You can't really have woodworking as a hobby if you live in a small studio apartment. You basically need a house, either one with a basement, a shed or a garage.
Gardening: requires a garden, something you're unlikely to have unless you have your own house.
Photography: I don't know anybody who is into photography who hasn't sunk a lot of money into the hobby. There's the cameras, the lenses, and even the software these days.
Astronomy: see above.
Hiking: not expensive on its own, but in North America it means being able to drive to a wilderness spot outside the city, so you pretty much require your own car.
Archery and blacksmithing: again, requires a specialized space
Now, I know that there are cheap options for a lot of these. A musician could be someone drumming on an upside-down pail. Someone who only has access to a hotplate could still experiment with food. Woodworking could be just whittling sticks found in the park. Gardening could just be tending to a small houseplant. But, are these the version of the hobbies the women are picturing when they're imagining a potential mate doing the activity? Probably not.
Meanwhile, a lot of the stuff at the bottom of the list are very cheap hobbies. Like being influenced by the "Manosphere" just requires access to social media, same with porn and "arguing online".
Honestly, it looks to me like if you sorted the list by "dollars per hour someone invested in that hobby is likely to spend" you'd get many of the same things at the top and many of the same ones at the bottom. Some of the few exceptions are writing and reading, which can be pretty cheap hobbies, but are still apparently very attractive.
"Top 15 hobbies that sound attractive to women"
It's a bit of both. I can see these hobbies leading to a healthy relationship, but anyone who thinks the answer isn't "hit the gym" is coping.
(Btw I'm no gym rat, but this is a fact)
Hitting the gym can't hurt but it's very low on my list of priorities.
Being chill, open with one's emotions, able to communicate reasonably, willing to help around etc are way higher.
Usually being a woman helps too but life's life.
Those aren't really hobbies, though.
Isn't drag queen literally being woman as a hobbie?
damn...
As someone who does hit the gym, in my experience the majority of people you're impressing with your physique are men. Sure I'd say most women like it if you have it (assuming you aren't too big), but generalising that it's the main attraction would be a mistake.
I'd put "hit the dermatologist" above it. Plenty of girls go for the skinny or husky builds. But blemishes are a universal turn off
The benefits of hitting the gym are much more than just getting swole. It increases self-confidence, helps to improve self-image, etc, which are all way more important to getting laid than any hobby you could have.
Too much generalisation for my taste.
Exactly. And then they complain when you obsess about this book series and don't react to conversation attempts.
Blacksmithing is 88% Was this list made by a metal shop kid?
"Oh babe, I love your soda lime mix. You're not like those other brittle iron bitches out there"
Being handy is attractive. Getting a nice unique present is cool. And blacksmiths / woodworkers are the ones that do that kind of stuff.
I'm also willing to bet that the blacksmith they are picturing looks very different from your average blacksmith.
To be fair my limited experience with blacksmithing has given me the distinct impression that I would have magnificent arms if I did it regularly
While there's some outliers especially thanks to power hammers, a dedicated blacksmith looks a lot closer to a strongman competitor than mr universe.
I only know one guy who is into blacksmithing and - being a nerd myself, I saw this with kindness - but this dude is a super nerd. He's also one of the scrawniest dudes I know. I've heard him tell women that he's into blacksmithing before and it definitely does not have the desired effect that this chart would imply.
You always have to consider Rule #1 when taking these things into account.
I've met a TON of blacksmiths and they usually just look like normal guys but slightly more buff, often overweight. The machinery does most of the work.
So explain why IS 3D printing not higher on the list then?
Because downloading an stl and hitting print isn't really craftsmanship
I can not fathom how blacksmithing is LOWER on the list than reading. "The dude with the hammer looks nice, but that other one over there is sitting on a sofa for HOURS on end"
Maybe because reading is a sign of being intelligent/cultured in people's mind, and people on average value that slightly more than physical fitness
Reading demonstrates culturing, education, pursuit of knowledge, and willingness for good conversation. It’s also a hobby that can be practiced together (my wife and I have even devised a technique for how to best read books together)
Blacksmithing is one of the few hobbies that a guy probably can’t teach his girlfriend because women usually use a different technique to make up for strength differences. It’s hot for sure, but it’s hot in a “I’m going to watch you but it’s expensive in time and money, and I may wind up stuck selling at ren faires forever” way as opposed to a “even when we’re old we’ll still be discussing literature” way
I'm a woman, I can definitely learn to smith, and have done it a few times (I do reenactment, there's basically guaranteed to be a few blacksmithsin every friend group). I definitely couldn't do it for a living, but as an occasional hobby, sure.
And I haven't met a guy into smithing who didn't also like a fit partner, so hey.
Hehe
Oh I’m not disagreeing that we can learn. I’d just heard we tend to use a different technique than men, but I’ve never tried and none of my friends that are into sca are smiths so I was never taught otherwise.
Smithing is a hobby I’d love to take up if I had a lot of time, money, and trust from my wife that I won’t hurt myself
Me, a woman who tried blacksmithing before: Don't use spring steel or other metals that are hard to manipulate/hammer into shape when starting off. Don't start with a sword, start with bending and twisting a nail into... whatever. If they like the hobby they'll stick to it and the muscle will build over time. And if it doesn't: power tools.
Good to know, I’m a woman who’d apparently been misinformed but it is one of those things I’ve always wanted to try, but it’s not an ADHD “pick up every hobby” friendly one
That's true. I was in luck and there was a blacksmith in town who opens his workshop to kids on occasion or travels to job conventions and brought his tools with him. Maybe there are comparable activities/ offers near you, which I can highly recommend. Not only will you not have to worry about tools and materials, most importantly there will be a "teacher" around.
If you find something and decide to check it out, have fun! :)
It’s the first one isn’t it?
Lol, no. First person reads one chapter than we take turns reading two and passing the book. It keeps us excited and lets us talk about it as we go without major spoilers
Awwwwwwww
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"Brittle iron bitches" has been added to my dictionary of insults.
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I had 10/15 of these when I was single, and I was single for a very long time. That is how I had the time to learn all these hobbies/skills.
Right? Just the other day I was thinking about how many hobbies I dropped once I started seriously dating, and then later how many more when I had kids.
My guitar hasn't been touched in years. My books have gone unread. My 3D printer is getting a workout making organizational tools and little toys for the kids though lol
If you see my kayak and fishing poles tell them I miss them and I hope I get to spend more time with them when my son is a few years older.
Guitar and books are great hobbies to return to when you're older. It can be harder with sports.
Judging by what I see on dating sites, fishing is near the bottom of the list. So many women's profiles say something like "I don't want to see a picture of you holding a fish"
I wonder if it is fishing itself that they don't like, or if it is the prevalence of fishing photos on dating sites. I know that a lot of guys post fishing photos on their profiles (probably because most men don't take many photos of themselves but will take photos with a nice catch), so maybe it just seems unoriginal or low effort. I'm honestly not sure, but my only point is that it may not be the hobby itself.
Agreed, I really don't think it's the fishing itself.
Half the problem on any dating site is the classic: 1. Be attractive 2. Don't be unattractive.
If the dude is holding a fish but looks like Chris Evans, she will probably still be interested.
On top of that, dudes holding the fish will overwhelmingly tend to look like the wrap around sunglasses wearing, goatee having, overweight, Trump voting cliche. Women probably build an association to not being compatible with dudes who love fishing after enough times of seeing that and connecting these dots.
I dunno, I know plenty who fish as part of a general interest in outdoorsy stuff and their actually in pretty decent shape.
I think part of the fishing issue is that I don't know so many women who actually have as much interest in such as guys, but I do know a lot of guys who don't do have a lot of interests outside of hunting, fishing, and camping. Cool if you're into that, but continual weekend trips involving tramping through damp bush to shoot and then skin Bambi, tenting in a mosquito swarm, and hours in a boat plus gutting fish isn't exactly great dating for many (even if the guy did look like Chris Evans).
I assumed it was a combination of "it's really common" and "fish are gross" but I don't look at men's profiles and don't fish so I may be way off
It’s that men don’t take a lot of pictures of themselves. Then they refuse to take any specifically for their dating profiles. Taking pictures specifically for a dating profile would show that they actually care about finding a person they would do other things specifically for.
This is a dead giveaway that you've never asked men why they don't take and share pictures of themselves. Most men in the anglosphere consider it vain and self-destructive to obsess over their looks. You can also see it in the way they buy clothes ("I'll take 5 pairs of the same pants, thanks"), the way they cut their hair ("just take an inch off and even it out"), and the way they present themselves, often with as few accessories and adornments as possible. Those they do have are utilitarian or deeply personal.
I mean yea, there's no point in faking all that (having fancy hair, fancy pants) to have a relationship that's based on lies and that will crumble the instant you show your true self
that's exactly the point. taking a picture won't kill you, and it sets you apart from all of the other men who are so stubborn that they refuse
This is what's wrong with the culture wars. You know why most men don't have any pictures of themselves, or if they do it's of them doing something else? That's the only time people take pictures of them. Most men literally don't have someone that they can just ask to take a picture of them. That coupled with the generally terrible body image issues most men have means taking dating profile photos is intimidating, better just to flick through the ten or so photos you already have and pick a couple.
I would bet the vast majority of men posting pictures of themselves holding fish would love decent photos just of them but have no idea how to do it themselves or have anyone to ask.
I can't speak for all men but I have a complete inability to look even remotely normal if I know a picture is being taken of me. I try to take profile pics and they all wind up awful and that's not just my view. I showed my friend just to make sure it wasn't just poor self image talking and they reacted like I was showing off a broken bone. I think the only way I'm going to get workable dating profile pics is if I have a friend take pictures of me without me noticing like I'm some sort of cryptid and they'retrying to capture proof.
Unfortunately, the fact that they don’t take many pictures of themselves can be really obvious. I try not to turn a guy down because of a bad profile picture, because I know there’s a technique to it and that requires practice.
At the same time, we’re in a digital era - you can take 100 pictures and only upload your favorite one. There’s no reason for an average guy’s profile picture to resemble a mugshot.
It's like 95% of male profiles. Bad selfies and the only picture of them taken by someone else is them holding a fish.
I read, write, and cook, and can play several instruments (kazoo, mouth harp, washboard, tamborine,...). Where's the women that find me attractive?
the trick is that you have to find them instead of just waiting for one to pop out of the ether
Well that's some bullshit. 😠
Wait, are you not the blue name guy? Why is your name normal?
(edit: It is because of voyager lol)
They added tags and took away my actual flair. 😔
You're still beautiful on Thunder for android
We keep telling you that you gotta stop winking when you tell people you play the mouth harp.
I read, write, cook, paint, swim, travel, and hike, and last gardening. I should be rolling in it. But my wife finds me sexy so I got that going for me.
My reaction
Just outside of you FOV. If you spin fast enough, you're bound to see them.
Nothing more sexy than a mouth harp (I always knew it as a jaw harp and have three) uwu
"Women love when i show them my extruder nozzle"
DAMN HE GOT THE VOLCANO HEATER BLOCK!! ITS SOO LONG
"Did your last boyfriend have a print volume this big? Yeah, didn't think so."
and the duel extruders have so much force!
Getting high and playing video games?
Pretty sure those made the other list for least attractive
Edit: the other chart
...11% of women find men who watch pornography attractive?
12% of women find men who argue online attractive?
23% of women are into cryptobros??
Plenty of women watch porn themselves. These 11% are not hypocrites.
I think this is from a survey, so keep in mind that its people reading and answering questions. Some number of people always interpret it a different way or misread.
A lot of cryptobros claim to have gotten rich, or seem likely to be flashing their money around. If someone is throwing money around, why not be somewhere you can catch some
How can reading be no 1 most attractive and comic books are on the unattractive side of the list?
I think it's collecting vs reading. I'm a lady and read comics, well graphic novels, I don't buy the individual issues. Half my bookshelf is graphic novels trade paperbacks. But I do not collect, trade, sell, I don't think of them like that, they are for reading and enjoying.
Collecting I can see as an unattractive trait because it's too close to hoarding.
Whew that was a close one. I started reading comics again a few years ago and only have been getting TPB or HCs. Who has space for boxes of singles?
WTH is manosphere? Afraid to google 😅
Manosphere is (to my understanding) Andrew Tate, Joe Rogan, etc. Basically content that promotes men acting like Neanderthals. Why any percentage of women found that attractive is beyond my comprehension.
Are you sure it’s not the part of a car engine collecting exhaust from all cylinders into a smaller number of pipes? Because I can use my ignorance of that and play up my environmental credentials as owning an EV
No, no, you're thinking of a manifold. A manosphere is an orb that keeps track of how much spellcasting energy you have left, next to your healthsphere.
I‘m multiple times on both ends.
The only balance I have in my life.
Ok says here MTG 28.5% but what about YuGiOh?
If I wasn't already partnered this list would bother me
They just hate when men have fun >:(
Ok, but most of those shouldn't even be considered hobbies. Like poker can be a hobby but if your hobby is just "gambling" then you probably have an issue. I guess your hobby could be porn if you're in the kink scene and into making porn or something, but while watching porn is ok, if you consider watching porn a hobby then you may have an issue.
I'd like to add drinking to that. If your hobby is drinking, and you drink several times a week, you might have an issue.
Arguing Online: Women are just not ready for Skankhunt42
Cosplay: Yeah I bet it's equally least attractive the other way around lmao
I'd make both a pretty great, and kinda shitty male..
To be fair, I enjoy both these things but I don't know that I would classify them as hobbies, more as something I do to wind down. I can see video games going into hobby or even profession territory but THC is just a medicine for me. A hobby is something that needs to challenge me, in which I learn things and get better at it.
Tl;dr: any interest is interesting and attractive. In particular if it can be done without annoying your partner and shows your ability to think independently. If it produces something useful that's cool, too.
Interested people are interesting.
When does cooking stop counting as a basic day to day survival thing and start counting as a hobby?
when you worry about “plating”
I placed the thing in a plate. It's plated now.
But yeah, I get your point.
The difference between "cooking" and "hobby cooking" :
When you worry about the brand of the olive oil you use and the cost, (over $100 per knife), of your kitchen knives. And your stove is a $4000 induction model with 2 ovens.
Source: My one Son-in-law. But the son-of-a-bitch CAN really cook!
Jokes on you, my knife cost me $40 in steel, wood, brass, and sanding belts because I make my OWN knives for my cooking.
You know, I think I might just have two hobbies and one saved me money on the other....
What about the cost of the grinder, HT furnace, drill and drill bits, and anvil and hammers? Are you really sure you saved any money? /jk
Keep banging them out!
Rule number 1: never talk about the cost of tools.
I have two Kitchenaid mixers, and all my specialty tools. Cooking and baking can definitely be a hobby. We have the meals to survive. Then we have the shit I make that tskes a list of ingredients a mile long and all day to accomplish. But goddamm they are some great food.
That brings up an interesting thought.
Am I a cooking enthusiast because I spend time hunting/fishing/foraging wild ingredients? Many of my neighbors do some foraging and hunt and fish also. (I live on a lake in the middle of a very large forest). Or does the fact I made 10lbs of home smoked Canadian bacon in my own smoker this fall make me a cooking enthusiast? Maybe the breads I sometimes bake? Or the hand harvested and then parched over a wood fire wild rice I traded some of my bacon for from my one neighbor?
Am I a cooking hobbyist? Or am I just cooking to survive? Where is the line drawn?
There are a surprising amount of old kids that can't even boil water for pasta. No one looking to date wants to date an old kid they need to take care of. (Some people do, but burnout is real)
In my experience most adults can boil pasta.
... And boil it.... And boil it..... And DEAR GOD TAKE IT OFF THE STOVE AND DRAIN IT BEFORE IT BECOMES MUSH!
When you start to have to worry about them finding out you've out-pizzad the hut.
Cooking qs a Hobby is not throwing together a Quick meal, but actually making an effort to cook. I.e. trying new things, cooking homemade pizza or even a roast.
"throwing together a quick meal" should have it's own word.
"cooking" to me implies you're working on something worth the time it takes, something you want to put effort into.
But when I just got home, nothing is easy to make and I have to throw something quick together, it doesn't feel like really cooking to me. Like im half assing it, it should have a half-assed name.
Exactly, I am always looking for new and exciting things to try. Also subscribe to shit ton of cooking channels on YouTube, and blogs. Also subscribe to a magazine subscription which I was exited that I could still do that. Also have a ton of cook books and always looking for more.
When you are making everything from scratch, cooking becomes a hobby. You can make tacos and buy a salsa from the store and make some good tacos, but when you are making the salsa and thinking that you should add just a bit more of something, you are in hobby territory.
Smoking meats is a hobby. To get dinner ready, you start at 3am and tend the firebox all day. You try different rubs, woods, and techniques to make the product of your craft the best it can be.
Making pizza from scratch is a hobby. You make may make dozens of pizzas to just get the sauce, dough, or crust right.
Following a recipe to make something is not a hobby unless it is just a starting point in something you wish to refine and make your own.
I agree with all but the last part.
Following a recipe can absolutely be a hobby. You can take a lot of enjoyment out of it, and it's even useful.
I wouldn't say it's an art, but it's definitely a hobby.
can some one explain this meme to me?
I can't find Saddam Huisen
Okay, this meme actually doesn't contain Saddam Hussein. I know it's a shock, you'd better sit down. Actually lie down. Lower. Lower. Keep going. There he is.
Got reading and foreign languages, woohoo!
*groans* So much for my gay ass...
Hey nobody said they're not attractive to men
I’m not into guys but as a woman I’m surprised blacksmithing isn’t higher. How am I supposed to be your knight in shining armor if you can’t make me some shining armor?
It's going to be boob armor and just leather straps to attach it over a bikini.
Jokes on you I’m down to model that sort of thing for women
I've forged everything from aluminum to Waspaloy, from handheld to car-sized.
Unfortunately, I used an industrial press and lots of math. Not sexy. What respondents really mean is hipsters with an anvil. Then you're wearing an apron with no shirt, sweating, and smashing something hard and repeatedly.
More like "things women want attractive people to be into"
First thing I thought of was the "Elementary School Musical" episode of South Park.
Uh, there is a typo, the second probably should say "functional languages". We all know how people are attracted to map, filter, and reduce.
Unironically, most of the women I've spoken too have found it attractive when I bring up 3dPrinting. It's an active and interesting hobby, and tangible & crafty enough not to be too "nerdy" or whatever. Perfect middle ground, women love it.
They probably just didn't think of it or it wasn't on the poll.
plasticsmithing!
It's weird that mechanical keyboard isn't on the list
How are keyboards a hobby?
NO
If you haven't fallen down the keyboard rabbit hole then you don't know just how far it goes...
It very much can be a hobby costing thousands of dollars and resulting in several keyboard projects.
For your own sanity and wallet, it is best that you do not investigate further.
Nor gaming, nor drugs, nor watching TV/YouTube/Twitch, nor homelabbing... this is a wake-up call
And yet, whenever I get a new keyboard or caps there is a nontrivial chance my wife will steal them.
Is there a source for this graph? Would like to read the rest of it
So, lots of Linux fans should be fairly attractive. Like we read (the docs), know a few languages (at least bash), occasionally write scripts, travel (between distros), and archers became a huge meme 🙃
But you annoy users with unreliability and difficulty to repair and time to implement. UX is important. You can't have home improvement work sites lingering.
Seriously, has no one considered/been on the wrong side of the PAF (partner approval factor) curve?
I wonder where "gay sex" ranks
"Nah, Babe, it's just a hobby of mine. It's nothing to worry about."
My favorite comment of 2024.
The musical instrument thing is transitory and depends entirely on the instrument.
Pre-relationship; in a popular band playing a more traditional instrument like guitar with a bunch of also attractive people (or at least part of a cool local scene) = hot
In a relationship and/or solo bedroom producing any kind of electronic music and/or buying lots of synthesizers, drum machines or grooveboxes = not hot
Also note how low "clubbing" is on the least attractive list, so no, DJs and electronic musicians who perform live don't get a pass
If you have a banjo, it's straight up unattractive.
Source : I have a banjo.
seriously? I've known several women that fucking love banjo. I would say I've heard more women talk about how cool banjo playing is compared to actual guitars (then again I think it's just a known thing with guitars that doesn't need to be brought up). It might also depend on where you live I suppose. Roll into an Appalachian town stringing a banjo and you'll be the pied piper of the mountain women.
Here is the source so you can feel bad about yourself
https://datepsychology.com/the-most-and-least-attractive-male-hobbies/
TIL “ArguingOnline” is a hobby.
Getting mad while listening to right wing psychopaths on the TV and Radio is a major hobby.
Oh boy, cosplayers and DnD players got the shaft with that one.
Which is definitely strange. Or maybe I know a lot of strange women. Which is not unlikely now that I think about it. We should all be a little strange tbh
what if I read a ton of books every day but it’s all manga and light novels. trashy ones
I read books about social studies and think I may fall into the same camp. What books do woman deem sexy?
TIL I'm a chick magnet
I love how some of those hobbies are literally just chores but fun
All my hobbies are chores I choose to do. 😔
No one should undertake hobbies because they are attractive to someone else. Unless you want to join groups where you can meet people you’re attracted to, then the activity is just an excuse to mingle. But you are more likely to find a hobby rewarding if you are genuinely interested in it, no matter what others think.
Does growing cannabis count as gardening and what about painting figures?
Where is RuneScape
"Reading"
Strangely enough, reading RPG and skirmish game rulebooks doesn't seem to fit that bill.
Also, 3D printers, get your painting skills ready and paint the stuff you print. Easy peasy lemon squeezy
There are a lot of girls who enjoy role playing games, both digital and traditional.
The key to not blowing it with them, is don't be a stereotype.
"Don't be the reason why there are so few women in this field" is good advice for a great many hobbies and jobs
correct. like how reading comic strips and cereal boxes isnt either.
I beg to argue that being able to 3d model the figures and printing your own original creations is far more attractive than downloading a file aomeone else made and printing that.
Release the full list.
I want to see the red flag hobbies
Cruising glory holes, going to trump rallies, watching sports, hunting
I used to work at a leather shop. I can say alot of women find that pretty attractive. Too bad I'm asexual.
My bf is really hot when he prints stuff for me tho.
Unironically, women are hot for the handyman. Fixing a friend's sink has gotten me laid more than once.
You mean those porn videos were real? Unbelievable!
You'll have significantly less luck delivering pizza, sadly.
You mean that passing for a dependable and helpful person helps?
Who would've thunk?
(I don't know how to rephrase that first sentence but I'm not trying to insinuate that you're not either of these things :p )
Read this too fast and thought it said most attractive male Hobbits and I was really intrigued
Sad beans
That Reading Baggins, he's so hot right now 🔥
I think this is cool. Many of these are accessible and cheap. Most of these are "do you get out of the house and spend time on something" which is obvious. Looks like most hobbies are attractive, like even anime and cosplay have 1 out of 4 women who is into that and finds it attractive.
I also love the huge correlation between the top 15 and what men think is the top 15, the main difference is that men didn't think hobbies were attractive enough.
I'd love to see the reversed list for what men think are attractive hobbies for a woman!
I'd also like to see that list. I'd also like to see how hobby preference lines up with what hobbies the person with that preference has themselves.
I'm a 4 and 7 with a touch of 1, so I guess I'm a hot commodity.
....my dating history tells me otherwise.
If anyone wants to learn to blacksmith Black bear forge has a good intro series https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHta7NIJ9npbTNOR4JQW_IlDnCTxM2wV4
And lemmy has a blacksmithing community that could use more posts
!blacksmithing@lemmy.world
Yeah I'll just have the setup in my kitchen.
There's actually a video at the end of that playlist that addresses that issue, but yeah there isn't really an easy solution
Anyone have the least attractive? I want to check something.
modding porn subreddits? I mean, under that i think only illegal stuff are, like "robbing banks" and stuff
Never heard of Bonny & Clide, huh? Or Robin Hood? I guess robbing banks can be damn attractive.
Okay, maybe i should have picked a different bad example xD
Idk Arthur Morgan seems pretty popular. Might want to bump bank robbers up a few spots
https://datepsychology.com/the-most-and-least-attractive-male-hobbies/
Let me know how bad you feel about yourself afterwards
Cooking is my love language. I'm also a sole provider.
Isn't that called a "cobbler"? Or do you only do soles and not the entire shoe?
Oh. Do you catch them yourself or do you just have connections in the industry?
I used to be a heartthrob like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
And now I’m 89.5% sexier!
What about my practicing the Art of the Blade™?
I've read manual for my new 3D printer but it was in a foreign language so I had to cook up a way to understand it, luckily I travel a lot so learning languages is not that difficult for me. I hope that this writing paints good enough of a picture on how it went. I forged up some way to accelerate my learning process so that I could get trough it swift like an arrow. There certainly were some steep inclines which I had to overcome but in the end it all went swimmingly. The only issue was that I could not muster any courage to approach my crush. I just stood there like a stump and stared at her eyes that glistened like stars. In the end it turned out she was a hoe so I dodged a bullet.
What if you find yourself reading a culinary arts textbook in a foreign language?
They probably just didn't ask about RTLSDR, otherwise it would be quite prominent, I'm sure.
RTLSDR feeding into Home Assistant. That's the money shot.
"Yeah girl, my bathroom lights come on automatically when you walk in. I've even set them to 30% brightness.... After bedtime."
If only my wife truly appreciated me lol
I think my wife was mildly amused by it at first (I was playing with X10 automation long before she came into the picture), but quickly started to like it because it meant that we always came home to the lights on, stuff like that.
And there's one button to shut off the outside lights and "evening" lights in the house when we're going to bed.
Archery. Archery? Whose hobby is that?
Can't recommend enough. A fantastic sport to pick up for after work if you're working in IT or so, clears your mind, good for the shoulders and the back, and calms you down.
The archers?
I don't do it, but I'd like to. The few times I tried it I quite enjoyed it, it's just hard to find a place near me where I can practice archery. It's quite fun, I think.
Lmfao
Let's see: I love reading, I am learning French, I paint, I write, I enjoy a bit o astronomy, I am an archer, and I have learned how to blacksmith.
Yeah this is just a list of activities with no correlation to attractiveness whatsoever
Edit: let me be clear, I've learned to blacksmith the cheating way with propane or natural gas AND the good old fashioned hand cranked coal fired away meant to coat your lungs with soot like a real man. And make sure you bring the borax cause we gonna do some welds
Assuming your my brother, the answer is you're ugly
I mean, I'm apparently good enough to at least have one kid, so I got that going for me. Wasn't an accident or anything either.
But I at least have a well paying job so I got that going for me, which is nice.
Plus, if generalize all women to be like my ex, I don't want to date again. So being ugly ain't all bad
Weird, "nerd for Marxism" isn't on there... good thing I can cook 😎
All the nerd hobbies are at the bottom of the list scoring negatives. Linux, video games, Warhammer, D&D and other, etc. this is why despite playing a music instrument, I couldn't get laid.
Eh, I find a lot of people the attraction is towards the person themselves and that makes them more interested in their hobbies anyway. Like if someone is into you, they'll probably try to take an interest in Warhammer or whatever because you're into it.
Of course, this is a reply to a shitpost :D
"Attractive" hobbies are what can put you in a spotlight and get someone you have never met to pick and interest in you.
BTW, playing guitar definitely helped me get laid, and once that was done, it was a piece of cake to convert them to Linux !
So a foreign manga reader that likes to work their wood whilst drawing furry pics from said manga, and travels to cons to display subsequent art - is the most irresistible person to women?
(Should probably think about doing some public garden porn photography tbh)
That does make sense.
Also fails to mention mastery of nunchucks?
That's because I hog all the printing time.
Also, psa 4 men, if you just do cooking you'll be swimming.
DMing for D&D isn’t here? Damn it.
Source from @douchebagmcswag@lemmy.dbzer0
Edit: I think this survey is problematic for a number of reasons, so I hope no one takes it too seriously. I'm one of the women who'd rather her boyfriend smoked pot instead of getting drunk, and would rather play games (tabletop or video) than go to the movies.
I assume that by painting they don't mean miniature painting. Unless it's Henry Cavill that does it?
where's golfing?
Expect /r/3dprintingincels (general place for incels that do 3D printing) and /r/dark3dprinting (3D printing nazi memoribalia) going live.
It's a shame being attractive is the most important thing about being attractive lol
I'm into cooking, astronomy, photography (astrophotography), and hiking. Used online dating (listed all those things) for almost 10 years and went on something like 7 dates. Still single lol I just gave up about a year ago
I have a few in that list too and yeah, online dating is really rough. I've had way more success meeting people IRL. Now that I'm a proper adult though, my hobbies don't really expose me to meeting new people and that's where it gets extra hard. Still haven't found a solution to get me out into public to meet people, friends or dating.
Online dating is the most damaging and predatory thing for man. I think at this point research shows quite clearly that is very detrimental for men's mental health
Where’s “beach”?
What about editing Windows registry? What does that rank? Hkey local machine?
Ahh yes... my favorite hobby... foreign languages.
Essentially just be a renaissance man. It's much easier to do when you're younger. I could've ticked off over half the list 10 years ago, but now it's just reading, cooking and writing. I don't have the time or energy for much outside of work these days.
But I only got into woodworking after I met my husband!
3D printing is just a tooI? blacksmithing? 3D print a 'lost-wax' plastic mould. Gardening? making some custom very specific mounts or drip ends.
You don't put on a hobby list 'wielding a brush'. It's what you do with it;
3D printing is not, but astronomy is? Is that even a hobby?
Astronomy is one of those things that people think they like until they find out it's mostly math, physics, and chemistry, and looking at cool pictures of space is not directly involved.
source: astronomy minor. I liked it but being able to discuss the various types of variable starts and plot them in a Hertzsprung–Russell diagram is not going to win me any dates.
No, but if you grind enough, you get to see some blackholes.
Isn't this one of those fake lists to rage bait people?
I do photography, archery and 3d printing.
Photography seems to only invite critique, archery tends to be a short subkect of conversation but 3d printing usually leads to the most questions and takes up a larger part of the conversation.
When i played bass, no one really showed any interest other than one friends who caught me playing a small part of something i was figuring out how to follow it up and wanted to sample it. Which eventually led to nothing.
I designed a silencer for airsoft in fusion360 and already sold 10, a friend asked me to print a spitfire and i eventually summoned up the idea to make some spitfire exhausts he could mount on his spitfire themed mini cooper, my archery club has these plastic stars that tend to be used on the carnival for air guns so i designed some custom ones with their logo "just because". I also printed some trophy's which i still have to give out.
Once you get a reliable 3d printer and learn the software well enough, it is an amazing hobby.
The wife paints miniatures (think warhammer for example) and she needs plinths for her competition models. So i shit out a custom plinth within an hour including print time. It's so awesome and after 5 years i'm still amazed when i get to hold something that was nothing more than a digital design a mere hour before, i have a mini factory inside my house that only produces what i tell it to...it's absolutely insane.
I can confirm that after a thousand times of don't it, cooking is no longer getting me any
I do so well with reading and cooking but really let myself down with strangling small animals.